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(WBUR Boston)   MA's largest school system announces school reopening plans. Have we ever thought about the emotional trauma we're going to inflict on our kids if we send them to school, they contract COVID-19, and end up killing grandma, or even their parents?   (wbur.org) divider line
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2020-08-05 5:45:15 PM  
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2020-08-05 5:46:31 PM  
Mom and Dad and Grandma can't vote for Biden if they die of covid-19
 
2020-08-05 6:25:41 PM  

King Something: Mom and Dad and Grandma can't vote for Biden if they die of covid-19


Don't old people skew republican?
 
2020-08-05 6:45:53 PM  
The other side says kids are traumatized by the lack of regular routine and experiences.

I think they're more resillient than people give them credit for.  I bet the introverts, different sorts, and bullied kids are damn glad to do online learning.

If we get through the Fall and Winter without a bunch of deaths, it will be miraculous.  Cold and flu season plus covid sounds really bad to me.  ymmv
 
2020-08-05 6:54:45 PM  
The plan itself doesn't sound horrible.  They're starting out online only with a phased in approach based on lots of factors, based on scientific data.
 
2020-08-05 7:10:51 PM  

SpaceyCat: The plan itself doesn't sound horrible.  They're starting out online only with a phased in approach based on lots of factors, based on scientific data.


Oh I know, but the thought about how we're likely going to inflict trauma on them if forcing them to go to school gives them COVID and ends up killing their parents/grandparents is a thought that I haven't seen uttered in all this discussion about reopening schools.
 
2020-08-05 7:13:41 PM  

somedude210: is a thought that I haven't seen uttered in all this discussion about reopening schools.


Of course not.  Because the idiots pushing to open schools in general, are covidiots.  They don't think it will happen to them and so is not a big deal.
 
2020-08-05 7:35:13 PM  
Schools will be closed in the fall. The only question is how many people die before the decision is made.
 
2020-08-05 7:59:33 PM  

Mugato: King Something: Mom and Dad and Grandma can't vote for Biden if they die of covid-19

Don't old people skew republican?


Hey, Fark is not your personal eroti...oh, skew...never mind
 
2020-08-05 9:05:53 PM  
"Please give us your better ideas so we can incorporate those in and make this plan better so that it's the best thing for this community when we get to the first day of school,"

Here's one: don't.
 
2020-08-05 9:35:20 PM  
Omg Subby, I said this exact thing to Ms. Nob yesterday.  Great minds, etc.
 
2020-08-05 9:35:23 PM  
Is it safe?
No?
THEN DON'T DO IT.
 
2020-08-05 9:36:11 PM  
I want to know, seriously, are there business owners who are like, WHERE THE WHITE PEOPLE AT? to work this shiatbag job for $7.25hr.
 
2020-08-05 9:36:32 PM  
I got an email from my kid's school district with their plans for this year: Starting with online learning with in-person learning for designated students. It's... maybe the best compromise available, but it's still a compromise and one I'm not entirely comfortable with. Also, they'll be evaluating conditions monthly and move to entirely in-person at some point, presumably.
 
2020-08-05 9:37:50 PM  
the argument from the other side is, 'But not going to school will screw up my kids.'

Kids can't learn if they're dead.
Kids can't learn if they're sick.

Did we discuss the trauma of sending your kid to an environment where they're forever wondering if they're going to be infected? 

And then we have the CDC reporting, today:

The CDC now says that school-aged children are effective vectors of transmission and infection, based on a study of the Georgia summer camp that was a super-spreader event.

Today's study released by the CDC determined there were, "high attack rates among persons in all age groups, despite efforts by camp officials to implement most recommended strategies to prevent transmission."

Also, the CDC found, "children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection, and, contrary to early reports, might play an important role in transmission."

So, on top of all of this, you have a kid who comes home, infects everyone, who in turn go out and infect others, and so on and so on. 

So, we have a very real possibility of them hurting or inadvertently killing their parents and grandparents. 

People pushing this do not and have never farking cared. The goal is to cut off unemployment claims by forcing offices open, and removing "because I need to care for my kids" as an 'excuse'. They know perfectly well that yes it will kill people, and I'm getting really tired of people assuming this is all out of ignorance rather than malicious greed.
 
2020-08-05 9:38:09 PM  

somedude210: SpaceyCat: The plan itself doesn't sound horrible.  They're starting out online only with a phased in approach based on lots of factors, based on scientific data.

Oh I know, but the thought about how we're likely going to inflict trauma on them if forcing them to go to school gives them COVID and ends up killing their parents/grandparents is a thought that I haven't seen uttered in all this discussion about reopening schools.


They're called collateral damage and no one ever likes talking about that.
 
2020-08-05 9:38:43 PM  

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I mean in a lot of cases you're completely right, but there's enough households where that won't work as a blanket solution.

We've got all August for things to get worse, let's see what people say then about reopening.
 
2020-08-05 9:39:21 PM  
First day of in-service tomorrow.  First day of school next Tuesday.  So I'm getting a kick.......I doubt even half of the other teachers will be wearing a mask tomorrow.
 
2020-08-05 9:40:25 PM  
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2020-08-05 9:41:58 PM  
Between this and the school shootings, I hope the current school-aged generation burns shiat to the ground and starts over.
 
2020-08-05 9:41:59 PM  
Yes, we thought of it as we read that a.d decided we don't care.
 
2020-08-05 9:43:14 PM  
I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you over my stonks.
 
2020-08-05 9:43:43 PM  

Azz Pumper: First day of in-service tomorrow.  First day of school next Tuesday.  So I'm getting a kick.......I doubt even half of the other teachers will be wearing a mask tomorrow.


https://abcnews.go.com/Health/student​s​-school-touted-pence-reopening-quarant​ine-due-covid/story?id=72187266
 
2020-08-05 9:44:04 PM  
Chicago announced their hybrid plan a couple of months ago. And then scrapped it two days ago in favor of all remote learning for the fall. My job's already said we can work from home through the end of the year, so that works out. I do worry about the kids without adequate internet, though.
 
2020-08-05 9:45:21 PM  
Jokes on you.  I'm raising my kid to be a sociopath.
 
2020-08-05 9:47:55 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x887]


Yeah, but they said mean things to other people on Twitter, so now poor people have to die.
 
2020-08-05 9:48:53 PM  

Sexy Jesus: Yes, we thought of it as we read that a.d decided we don't care.


Well, we don't. Look at it as a practical matter:
If kids die, we can just make new ones - they're replaceable.
Shareholder value, on the other hand, once lost, can never be recovered.
It's just gone, like tears in rain.
 
2020-08-05 9:50:35 PM  

Weatherkiss: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x887]

Yeah, but they said mean things to other people on Twitter, so now poor people have to die.


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2020-08-05 9:50:58 PM  
Schools SHOULD be open for face to face learning... for kids with special needs.  A small handful of kids per classroom, like max 6.

If a district really values in person learning they can rotate other students into the classroom once a week, on a rotation, also only a small handful of kids at a time.  So a 3rd grader might spend two mornings or two afternoons a week in class.

Otherwise fark off.  Every parent knows what a disease riddled infestation a classroom is.  That maybe be OK for building up their immune systems when its a cold, but not with flu or COVID.

Anyone paying attention knows there will not be enough PPE or cleaning supplies for these classrooms over the entire year.  Where does that money come from, too?

And do you really trust parents not to send their kids to school before they know they're COVID positive?  The entire system is rigged to force people to work which forces them to send kids to school.

If you want kids in school, you have to fix all the rest of it.  No bars.  No sit down restaurants.  Mask ordinances everywhere.
 
2020-08-05 9:54:59 PM  
It's amazing that we as a society manage to survive Summer Vacation on a yearly basis.
 
2020-08-05 9:56:09 PM  
So what if the pandemic is worse now than it was when schools were closed in the first place? So what if we've ALREADY had a bunch of stories about schools closing after the first day because, surprise surprise, someone had COVID?

We've GOT to get things "back to normal" before more people realize that the shiat that would have mitigated all this was shiat progressives have been asking for for a long ass time.
Before they notice that the ultra-wealthy aren't being pressured to put themselves at risk, or that the stock market is still sky-high while the rest of the economy craters.
Before they realize that landlords are soulless parasites who are willing to send people to starve to death in the streets rather than lose money on an 'investment'.
Before they realize just how much they're getting screwed by their bosses when they see just how much a relatively-puny $600 check from the government reduces their financial issues.

And besides, the sooner things are back to "normal", the sooner the public eye can move on, so the November election can be close enough for Trump to steal with any degree of deniability.
 
2020-08-05 9:59:35 PM  
We're teaching them a valuable lesson about how meaningless their lives are to The Man. Better they learn early.
 
2020-08-05 9:59:59 PM  
Subby raises a good point. But there is potential available in being able to guilt trip children over dead relatives.  Just imagine the kind of emotional burden you can lay on your children by saying "Your X would have been so disappointed to see you acting like this.  Of course, you killed her with Covid-19 even though she loved you so much."

Got to get in with that emotional extortion early.
 
2020-08-05 10:01:14 PM  

LordJiro: So what if the pandemic is worse now than it was when schools were closed in the first place? So what if we've ALREADY had a bunch of stories about schools closing after the first day because, surprise surprise, someone had COVID?

We've GOT to get things "back to normal" before more people realize that the shiat that would have mitigated all this was shiat progressives have been asking for for a long ass time.
Before they notice that the ultra-wealthy aren't being pressured to put themselves at risk, or that the stock market is still sky-high while the rest of the economy craters.
Before they realize that landlords are soulless parasites who are willing to send people to starve to death in the streets rather than lose money on an 'investment'.
Before they realize just how much they're getting screwed by their bosses when they see just how much a relatively-puny $600 check from the government reduces their financial issues.

And besides, the sooner things are back to "normal", the sooner the public eye can move on, so the November election can be close enough for Trump to steal with any degree of deniability.


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2020-08-05 10:01:20 PM  

LordJiro: So what if the pandemic is worse now than it was when schools were closed in the first place? So what if we've ALREADY had a bunch of stories about schools closing after the first day because, surprise surprise, someone had COVID?

We've GOT to get things "back to normal" before more people realize that the shiat that would have mitigated all this was shiat progressives have been asking for for a long ass time.
Before they notice that the ultra-wealthy aren't being pressured to put themselves at risk, or that the stock market is still sky-high while the rest of the economy craters.
Before they realize that landlords are soulless parasites who are willing to send people to starve to death in the streets rather than lose money on an 'investment'.
Before they realize just how much they're getting screwed by their bosses when they see just how much a relatively-puny $600 check from the government reduces their financial issues.

And besides, the sooner things are back to "normal", the sooner the public eye can move on, so the November election can be close enough for Trump to steal with any degree of deniability.


You I like.
 
2020-08-05 10:01:43 PM  
weddingsinger:

If you want kids in school, you have to fix all the rest of it.  No bars.  No sit down restaurants.  Mask ordinances everywhere.

yep here in IL, we were actually getting the virus under control. infection rates were pretty low, so our leaders caved to pressure and started opening bars and restaurants.

whaddaya know the virus is out of control and spreading again. and we had a fairly robust quarantine for the USA.

pritzker has been threatening to roll back the openings, but i honestly don't see it happening because we seem to value wealth and consumerism over human life. same as it ever was, i suppose.

i can't remember where i heard this, but someone mentioned that we shut down schools when the pandemic was just escalating. now it's not even close to under control, but we should still send kids back to school anyway
 
2020-08-05 10:03:49 PM  

LordJiro: So what if the pandemic is worse now than it was when schools were closed in the first place?


That's true of everything that's re-opening, not just schools. Nothing's changed since everything closed. In very In some cases its gotten worse. In very few cases things have gotten better but only because we closed everything. But we're re-opening things because we're bored and the rich gots to get paid. It's madness.
 
2020-08-05 10:05:42 PM  
Look, Dr Brix said the virus is widespread in the US. This happened with schools shut down and kids running rampant in the wild. Seems clear to me that opening schools and corralling the children into class rooms will stop the virus on its tracks.
 
2020-08-05 10:06:11 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: LordJiro: So what if the pandemic is worse now than it was when schools were closed in the first place? So what if we've ALREADY had a bunch of stories about schools closing after the first day because, surprise surprise, someone had COVID?

We've GOT to get things "back to normal" before more people realize that the shiat that would have mitigated all this was shiat progressives have been asking for for a long ass time.
Before they notice that the ultra-wealthy aren't being pressured to put themselves at risk, or that the stock market is still sky-high while the rest of the economy craters.
Before they realize that landlords are soulless parasites who are willing to send people to starve to death in the streets rather than lose money on an 'investment'.
Before they realize just how much they're getting screwed by their bosses when they see just how much a relatively-puny $600 check from the government reduces their financial issues.

And besides, the sooner things are back to "normal", the sooner the public eye can move on, so the November election can be close enough for Trump to steal with any degree of deniability.

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questioning BYEDON, or any democrats really, makes you a trump supporter. that dang cheeto's behavior is unprecedented and we must get back to normal. you either vote for BYEDON or you want the USA collapse. capisce?
 
2020-08-05 10:09:09 PM  

Azz Pumper: First day of in-service tomorrow.  First day of school next Tuesday.  So I'm getting a kick.......I doubt even half of the other teachers will be wearing a mask tomorrow.


May I suggest channeling your Fark handle and pumping some of their azzes, then?
 
2020-08-05 10:10:14 PM  

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Fark that. 80's, more like.  I was a latchkey kid every day.  Wasn't pretty much everyone in a middle class household?
 
2020-08-05 10:11:00 PM  
Hey, don't sell them short. They've also thought about how they could start failing in school from the trauma, end up dropping out, have to resort to crime to survive if they get older, then get put in prison where they are used for prison slave labor.
 
2020-08-05 10:11:58 PM  
 
2020-08-05 10:14:49 PM  

KungFuJunkie: Look, Dr Brix said the virus is widespread in the US. This happened with schools shut down and kids running rampant in the wild. Seems clear to me that opening schools and corralling the children into class rooms will stop the virus on its tracks.


Yes, sending them all, including college students to remote boarding schools where even the teachers don't go home would help.
 
2020-08-05 10:23:37 PM  

Znuh: the argument from the other side is, 'But not going to school will screw up my kids.'

Kids can't learn if they're dead.
Kids can't learn if they're sick.

Did we discuss the trauma of sending your kid to an environment where they're forever wondering if they're going to be infected? 

And then we have the CDC reporting, today:

The CDC now says that school-aged children are effective vectors of transmission and infection, based on a study of the Georgia summer camp that was a super-spreader event.

Today's study released by the CDC determined there were, "high attack rates among persons in all age groups, despite efforts by camp officials to implement most recommended strategies to prevent transmission."

Also, the CDC found, "children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection, and, contrary to early reports, might play an important role in transmission."

So, on top of all of this, you have a kid who comes home, infects everyone, who in turn go out and infect others, and so on and so on. 

So, we have a very real possibility of them hurting or inadvertently killing their parents and grandparents. 

People pushing this do not and have never farking cared. The goal is to cut off unemployment claims by forcing offices open, and removing "because I need to care for my kids" as an 'excuse'. They know perfectly well that yes it will kill people, and I'm getting really tired of people assuming this is all out of ignorance rather than malicious greed.


It's mostly greed. They refer to their kids as productive units.


This is an example of how they treat their kids. I have now reason to doubt this happened:

Nonya Damn Biz overboosted ✓ᴰᴱᴾᴸᴼᴿᴬᴮᴸᴱ • 4 hours ago
My son allowed himself to be brainwashed, so when he told me one evening at the dinner table he was triggered by my Trump support I requested him to move his 18 year old ass out of my house.
DAD I don't have any money and no job. I said THAT is your problem now get the FUUUKK out and do not come back unil you have your head screwed on tight.
He was out the next day, I moved all his crap to the lawn and had a lock smith change all the locks that was three weeks ago, and he's still whining about it.
 
2020-08-05 10:26:52 PM  
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2020-08-05 10:32:07 PM  

jso2897: Sexy Jesus: Yes, we thought of it as we read that a.d decided we don't care.

Well, we don't. Look at it as a practical matter:
If kids die, we can just make new ones - they're replaceable.
Shareholder value, on the other hand, once lost, can never be recovered.
It's just gone, like tears in rain.


I'm afraid your calculus there probably has more to do with the way things work than anything else.
 
2020-08-05 10:43:21 PM  

buttercat: The other side says kids are traumatized by the lack of regular routine and experiences.


Because constantly opening and shutting schools based on when someone is sick is the epitome of stability.
 
2020-08-05 10:53:15 PM  
Ahem.... farkyourfeelings.jpg
 
2020-08-05 10:58:08 PM  

12349876: buttercat: The other side says kids are traumatized by the lack of regular routine and experiences.

Because constantly opening and shutting schools based on when someone is sick is the epitome of stability.


Yeah, that's the only other option...

/farking smoothbrains gonna take a lot of us with them
 
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