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(9 to 5 Mac)   How many states are using the Apple/Google contact tracing API that respects user privacy? If you guessed two, your guess was double the actual number. Other 49 worried app development doesn't cost enough, or steal enough data   (9to5mac.com) divider line
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2020-08-05 2:50:17 PM  
13 votes:
Apple/Google contact tracing API that respects user privacy?

That's where you are wrong kiddo.
 
2020-08-05 3:00:24 PM  
8 votes:

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Apple/Google contact tracing API that respects user privacy?

That's where you are wrong kiddo.


This is where default cynicism hurts us - it's so much easier to assume everyone is evil than to evaluate things on a case by case basis that the average lazy person won't bother to try to figure out what's true and what is not.
 
2020-08-05 2:08:09 PM  
7 votes:
I'm not sure there's even any point in having such apps in the US. Have you seen how many people refuse to voluntarily wear masks?

/or hell, wear them if made mandatory by law
 
2020-08-05 3:29:26 PM  
2 votes:
I mean i am just say'n here but you know:

Apple or google:
Hey i got this great tool that will help your life in tons of great ways, it's cheap to make, effective to use, and we're giving it away for free.


And they have any kind of reputation at all that would suggest this is an entierly legitimate statement at plain face value?

I men sure maybe they are 100% legit, but uhh boy who cried wolf fable about the effects of  developing a reputation is kinda a real deal, it's like why we make such stories to tell as lessons to be taught rather than  learned the hard way.
 
2020-08-05 9:34:35 PM  
1 vote:

Vlad_the_Inaner: So I'm supposed to waste my battery leaving bluetooth on all day?


It's actually a first-party component, so it uses basically no battery. Haven't noticed any excess drain on mine.

Plus it might help you not die, which is a point in its favour.
 
2020-08-05 9:07:35 PM  
1 vote:

Russ1642: You're really asking a lot if you want people to suddenly be ok with an app whose sole purpose is to track your every move and invade your privacy because it's 'good for you'. And the very LAST people I trust with securing an app are government contractors on a tight deadline.


Its OK, it's probably secured with blockchain
 
2020-08-05 4:14:02 PM  
1 vote:

downstairs: Enigmamf: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Apple/Google contact tracing API that respects user privacy?

That's where you are wrong kiddo.

This is where default cynicism hurts us - it's so much easier to assume everyone is evil than to evaluate things on a case by case basis that the average lazy person won't bother to try to figure out what's true and what is not.

But in real life, most of us don't have the time to research every single app we use.  I generally know how Google, FB, and Apple work.  And it is not as nefarious as people make it out to be.  But I could see instances where it could be troublesome.

So while you may call me lazy, I tend to think I put a good enough effort into looking into these things to say "I don't fully trust these apps, though I'm probably wrong-ish, and it is probably best not to freely give out the sort of information they want."


How exactly does Apple work? Bearing in mind that they went to the mat against the government, refusing to hack an iphone for the feds, and went on to plug the hole that ultimately a third party used (with government money) to crack it. I trust Apple with my data. Being secure to the point of snobby is part of their snobby brand. I trust Google too, but for less secure reasons. Facebook can go fark themselves.
 
2020-08-05 3:54:14 PM  
1 vote:
Up here in the land of ice, snow, maple syrup, and <1000 new cases yesterday for the whole country, we have COVID Alert, built by Health Canada and Shopify (based out of Ottawa, if you didn't know).

If you're a Canadian Farker, install it.

I'm a paranoid bastard, and know a lot of paranoid bastards, and none of us have been able to find fault with the app. It's quite good, and thank you to the folks who came up with the Exposure Notification Service in the first place.
 
2020-08-05 3:40:19 PM  
1 vote:
A guy I knew from about a 15 years ago posted recently that if anyone was going to use the Google app to remove him from their contacts list because he doesn't want to be tracked. I asked him if he was unaware of how phones have worked for the past decade plus.
 
2020-08-05 3:06:54 PM  
1 vote:

Enigmamf: Random Anonymous Blackmail: Apple/Google contact tracing API that respects user privacy?

That's where you are wrong kiddo.

This is where default cynicism hurts us - it's so much easier to assume everyone is evil than to evaluate things on a case by case basis that the average lazy person won't bother to try to figure out what's true and what is not.


But in real life, most of us don't have the time to research every single app we use.  I generally know how Google, FB, and Apple work.  And it is not as nefarious as people make it out to be.  But I could see instances where it could be troublesome.

So while you may call me lazy, I tend to think I put a good enough effort into looking into these things to say "I don't fully trust these apps, though I'm probably wrong-ish, and it is probably best not to freely give out the sort of information they want."
 
2020-08-05 2:54:58 PM  
1 vote:
Rhode Island is using a mobile app developed by Salesforce: "It also is compliant with applicable privacy laws, including the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA)."

And they did it for free: "Salesforce has agreed to a six-month contract to set up and provide support for the program and app for free."

So, subby, feel free to shiat on other states -- but leave Rhody alone.
 
2020-08-05 2:53:45 PM  
1 vote:
It's actually a state I would have bet would be in the bottom 3 to ever choose to use something like this.
 
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