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2020-08-05 12:33:03 PM  
It's not like anyone is going to DO anything about it.
 
2020-08-05 12:37:17 PM  
Kinda says it all, even this asshole doesn't want to hold his public function in a trump hotel.
 
2020-08-05 12:37:26 PM  
No.  Maybe from the residence.  Maybe.
 
2020-08-05 12:41:33 PM  
No but Trump doesn't care about laws and neither do republicans, they only care about law and order which means everyone staying in their place and doing what they are told.
 
2020-08-05 12:53:02 PM  
Not really, no. President Trump and candidate Trump are supposed to separate entities. Then again, hiring his family without background checks wasn't terrible legal either. Or his campaign hitting up foreign leaders for campaign contributions.
 
2020-08-05 12:53:32 PM  
He sounds concerned.
 
2020-08-05 12:53:51 PM  
Hatch Act doesn't apply to the President.
 
2020-08-05 12:54:58 PM  

enry: Hatch Act doesn't apply to the President.


Hell, these days the Constitution doesn't apply to the President.
 
2020-08-05 1:09:16 PM  
I mean, of all the illegal things to be worried about...
 
2020-08-05 1:09:52 PM  
No.
 
2020-08-05 1:09:57 PM  
He will make it legal.

Or, you know, just ignore the law like usual.
 
2020-08-05 1:10:38 PM  
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2020-08-05 1:12:05 PM  
Republican Senators are Fletch to the car thief...

"Well I'm not even sure that's a crime anymore."
 
2020-08-05 1:14:04 PM  
It's newsworthy because a Republican questioned the legality of something a Republican president wants to do.

I'm sure the others quickly corrected/sanctioned him.
 
2020-08-05 1:14:17 PM  
Not it's not. Who is going to stop him?

The man has no shame. No filter. No one to tell him that's a bad idea.

It might get back to him if the farking media does it's job, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
2020-08-05 1:15:59 PM  
Laws only matter if they're enforced. Otherwise, they're suggestions.

We're seeing this on display heavily during this administration, but from top to bottom, there are a *lot* of rules/laws that are ignored. At the low end ,courts routinely ignore perjury and parties ignoring deadlines or other procedural issues. Companies break EPA rules, rich taxpayers (especially corporations routinely ignore tax law).
 
2020-08-05 1:16:09 PM  
Add it to the pile
 
2020-08-05 1:16:37 PM  
 Trump has been doing rallies from the press room and the Rose Garden, but now he's concerned.
 
2020-08-05 1:18:36 PM  
I mean, does it matter any more if it's legal or not? We're not exactly a nation of laws at the moment.

President sniveling asshole is really driving home the theme that there are only laws if they're enforced, and it's crystal farking clear where and who gets the enforcing.
 
2020-08-05 1:19:13 PM  
Why would the Grifter in Chief pass up the opportunity to accept the nom at one of his own properties and cash in? Is he that scared of BLM protests? Sounds like he really is a Bunker Biatch-Boy.
 
2020-08-05 1:19:42 PM  
Yeah that's never stopped him so far...
 
2020-08-05 1:20:31 PM  

bloobeary: Kinda says it all, even this asshole doesn't want to hold his public function in a trump hotel.


He spends so much time at Mar-a-Lago, why doesn't he just do it there to resolve this issue?
 
2020-08-05 1:20:47 PM  
The fact suddenly has "security" concerns is laughable? ((Golf much?(

He should accept the GOP nomination in front of a rebel flag, surrounded by David Duke, William Barr, Jared Kushner, Mitch McConnell, Brett Kavanaugh and Rupert Murdoch. He should have a putter in his his hand while wiping his ass with the US Constitution.
At least this would be a more accurate representation of his entire administration.
 
2020-08-05 1:20:49 PM  
The truly ridiculous part is, based on his history, it's not like he can't travel to one of his golf courses and do it there instead.  It's almost like accepting the nomination at the white house is being proposed only because it is illegal.
 
2020-08-05 1:21:24 PM  
He's violated the Hatch act about 100 times, so far.  Surely, we'll get him on the 101st time.
 
2020-08-05 1:21:49 PM  
A Republican Senator caring about the legality of Trump's actions? Now I've seen everything.
 
2020-08-05 1:22:14 PM  
Technically it could be, if the Trump Campaign paid reasonable fees for the use of the facilities, like it pays for the use of Air-Force 1 to travel to campaign events, and avoided use of certain government titles/emblems.

Narrator: Nope.
 
2020-08-05 1:23:38 PM  
all else being equal, with teh rona, I'm not really going to get too worked up about this.  give him 5 minutes, he'll do something else illegal and/or face-f&ckingly stupid
 
2020-08-05 1:24:59 PM  
the flag mask will be the new flag lapel pin i guarantee it
 
2020-08-05 1:25:02 PM  
Name one elected republican who cares about law.
They do not exist.  The only thing more unlikely is a moral christian.
 
2020-08-05 1:25:05 PM  
No.
Serving suggestion: "Send in DHS thugs and beat him to a paste"
And if he wasn't breaking the law, then he wouldn't get beaten.
That is exactly the mindset of his base.
Stop breaking the law, asshole.
 
2020-08-05 1:26:23 PM  

bloobeary: Kinda says it all, even this asshole doesn't want to hold his public function in a trump hotel.


You wouldn't want to get bed bug bites either.
 
2020-08-05 1:26:58 PM  
That's not a question Trump has ever asked himself.
 
2020-08-05 1:27:23 PM  

Anenu: No but Trump doesn't care about laws and neither do republicans, they only care about law and order which means everyone staying in their place and doing what they are told.


Except, according to TFA, it's a Republican who is just asking questions here. He's just butthhurt because he wants to go travel wherever they're doing the convention and party with hookers. If Trump doesn't go, they might cancel the whole thing, and this guy would miss out on a chance to bring an STD home.

But really, who gives a fark? If Trump traveled to a big crowded convention, we'd complain, too. Biden is accepting his remotely, let Trump. I mean, if he's not dragging the Secret Service to one of his golf clubs, we all save money anyway. At this point, if you printed up all of the things Trump does that has me concerned, single spaced, in a 2 pt font, it would be a 10 foot long list, and this would be the very last item on that list.
 
2020-08-05 1:29:37 PM  
The point is moot
The GOP won't enforce it
The courts may then he'll ignore it.

Voting for the opposition is the only enforcement
Then hold him to it if ousted
And put the fear of the LAW into any future prez and administration

This whole time has been a feckless and inconsistent demonstration of law enforcement in politics

Basically, he gets away with what he can
And he tries to get away with it always
 
2020-08-05 1:30:01 PM  
From a standpoint of security, it would be better for trump to keep his ass at the White House and play golf at Camp David, a place constructed for just such diversions.  He could go so far as maybe his hotel at the post office if they cleared out the rest of the place-- not rent it out, just not book any functions or rooms.  He'd be a mensch if he did that just to receive his party's nomination.  Which means it isn't going to happen
 
2020-08-05 1:32:50 PM  
So you're asking this question...  NOW???
 
2020-08-05 1:32:52 PM  
Just don't nominate him?
 
2020-08-05 1:47:21 PM  
It's 100% illegal, but Republicans don't care, Democrats are milquetoasts, and the DoJ are stooges for Trump.
 
2020-08-05 1:51:26 PM  
If only there had been an opportunity to do something about the illegality of the current president's actions. If only. But alas, conscientious Republicans such as Senator Thune are powerless to do anything to stop this madman, and I'm sure they lament that fact.
 
2020-08-05 1:57:10 PM  

hubiestubert: Not really, no. President Trump and candidate Trump are supposed to separate entities. Then again, hiring his family without background checks wasn't terrible legal either. Or his campaign hitting up foreign leaders for campaign contributions.


They had background checks.

Which they failed - quite spectacularly in the case of known traitor Jared Kushner.
 
2020-08-05 2:06:25 PM  
It's his current residence so not that big a deal.  If he were to travel somewhere to accept it would be more costly to taxpayers.  Besides, it's a little too warm in Mar A Lago right now.
 
2020-08-05 2:07:15 PM  

lithven: The truly ridiculous part is, based on his history, it's not like he can't travel to one of his golf courses and do it there instead.  It's almost like accepting the nomination at the white house is being proposed only because it is illegal.


This. ☝🏻
 
2020-08-05 2:23:08 PM  

enry: Hatch Act doesn't apply to the President.


Yea. But it does for everyone else in his administration.  Are they just gonna empty out the lawn?
 
2020-08-05 2:27:17 PM  

dionysusaur: No.  Maybe from the residence.  Maybe.


From the shiatter!
 
2020-08-05 2:44:53 PM  
Wait, a Republican questioning Trump's adherence to the law. Is that even legal?
 
2020-08-05 2:45:29 PM  
The President is exempt from the Hatch Act. So is the Vice President. So, they could do it. They also could probably still get Secret Service Protection at the event.

Contrariwise, it would seem a violation of the Hatch Act for the White House staff to set up chairs for the event (and separately improper to allow the Trump Campaign to provide people to do so).

Nohow, there presently seems no enforcement mechanism for Hatch Act violations. While the OSC sent a letter recommending that White House counselor Kellyanne Conway be removed from federal service for repeatedly violating the Hatch Act, President Trump has taken no action. The next Congress ought to look into further enforcement mechanisms, such as allowing qui tam suit for reimbursement a portion of the offender's salary; such a measure might discourage such improper-seeming conduct.
 
2020-08-05 3:03:29 PM  
But just remember folks, it is perfectly safe to send your kids to school now.
 
2020-08-05 3:09:29 PM  
It's OK if you're Republican.
 
2020-08-05 3:10:19 PM  
abb3w:

Contrariwise, it would seem a violation of the Hatch Act for the White House staff to set up chairs for the event (and separately improper to allow the Trump Campaign to provide people to do so).

I would pay real money to watch Trump and Pence go out to the South Lawn and setup folding chairs and decorations themselves.  Hey Trump team, I will donate to your campaign to make this happen!

/will be paid after the setup just like Trump pays his contractors
 
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