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2020-08-05 9:55:04 AM  
None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.
 
2020-08-05 10:10:11 AM  

GardenWeasel: None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.


As long as they get that sweet, sweet tuition money, they do not care.  Also, if students die, it frees up spots for next semester.  It is a win-win decision for the administrators.
 
2020-08-05 10:15:48 AM  
As a reluctant Hoosier, that sounds exactly like Our biatch Mitch.
 
2020-08-05 11:18:09 AM  
It's always grinding to hear that neanderthal speaking on behalf of a great engineering institution, a place that historically valued evidence-based rationality over everything.

He should go run a bible college.
 
2020-08-05 11:48:44 AM  

wejash: It's always grinding to hear that neanderthal speaking on behalf of a great engineering institution, a place that historically valued evidence-based rationality over everything.

He should go run a bible college.


Try being an alumni. I pulled all donations when he took over.
 
2020-08-05 12:32:00 PM  

GardenWeasel: None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.


They are looking at the difference between pass/fail economically.  And the US cannot afford another bailout of some industry that is too big to fail.

But no, the students are a commodity, not something to be kept safe.

I know a lot of colleges are starting Fall classes on campus so they can charge full price and hope they make it to the winter break before switching to online. And getting some sweet NCAA football money.
 
2020-08-05 12:33:40 PM  

GardenWeasel: None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.


Also, Indiana lost half the SAT opportunities, and some schools still require it for incoming freshmen.  So, they have smaller than normal incoming classes...and need to maximize what they do have.


I have no idea how its gonna end up.  Worse than we want. But maybe better than expected.  Indiana mask wearers seem pretty compliant now
 
2020-08-05 12:40:49 PM  

Chris Ween: GardenWeasel: None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.

Also, Indiana lost half the SAT opportunities, and some schools still require it for incoming freshmen.  So, they have smaller than normal incoming classes...and need to maximize what they do have.


I have no idea how its gonna end up.  Worse than we want. But maybe better than expected.  Indiana mask wearers seem pretty compliant now


I'm just glad I have no family in college right now. The grandkids just went back to preschool and ABA, but that's a whole different problem.
 
2020-08-05 12:51:42 PM  

GardenWeasel: Chris Ween: GardenWeasel: None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.

Also, Indiana lost half the SAT opportunities, and some schools still require it for incoming freshmen.  So, they have smaller than normal incoming classes...and need to maximize what they do have.


I have no idea how its gonna end up.  Worse than we want. But maybe better than expected.  Indiana mask wearers seem pretty compliant now

I'm just glad I have no family in college right now. The grandkids just went back to preschool and ABA, but that's a whole different problem.


My daughters college is planning some quarantine rules if people leave campus.  And requires negative test before they return. And no visitors.  They also shortened the semester by eliminating the Fall Break.

I don't know how it will work out but they are at least trying. But athletes have to participate or lose a year of eligibility and they have to travel.  So, its weird watching it unfold.
 
2020-08-05 1:01:41 PM  
Wow, sounds like the Hoosier state really upgraded from Pence.

/burn it all down
 
2020-08-05 1:02:52 PM  
Republicans have such a deep farking bench of appalling assholes, you kinda forget how many they have until one we haven't heard from in awhile decides to shiat everywhere, then we remember, "Oh, THAT asshole. I hadn't really wondered what happened to him, just glad he was gone."
 
2020-08-05 1:03:36 PM  
My suggestion is to Pur-don't.
 
2020-08-05 1:03:37 PM  
Did you know there are student loans that don't cancel just b/c the borrower died?
 
2020-08-05 1:05:19 PM  
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Mitch Daniels: He'll help you get to Heaven faster.
 
2020-08-05 1:05:28 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Republicans have such a deep farking bench of appalling assholes, you kinda forget how many they have until one we haven't heard from in awhile decides to shiat everywhere, then we remember, "Oh, THAT asshole. I hadn't really wondered what happened to him, just glad he was gone."


True that.  It's a tossup whether Mitch Daniels or Mike Pence was a worse governor.
 
2020-08-05 1:05:58 PM  
As a proud Hoosier alum, I'd love to have this feather in my cap over the future corn hybrid makers of PU, but I cannot help but weep when considering the Pences and Daniels' of the world represent what people think of all Hoosiers.
Please Boilermakers, tar and feather Mitch already. You have the tech skills IU grads generally lack. We will write the essay afterwards. Promise.
 
2020-08-05 1:07:01 PM  
He needs football to balance the books and he can't have football if all the students can't go to class in person.

Simple as that.
 
2020-08-05 1:08:31 PM  
Greetings Purdue,

We look forward to welcoming you into the club of formerly revered universities that are now respected little more than a typical state college because of GOP asshattery.

Sincerely,
UW - Madison
 
2020-08-05 1:08:41 PM  

Sorelian's Ghost: He needs football to balance the books and he can't have football if all the students can't go to class in person.

Simple as that.


Him and most Div I universities.  UConn cancelled football this year tho. As did the Ivy League, I think.
 
2020-08-05 1:08:43 PM  

Sorelian's Ghost: He needs football to balance the books and he can't have football if all the students can't go to class in person.

Simple as that.


By football you must mean basketball
 
2020-08-05 1:09:23 PM  

Carn: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Republicans have such a deep farking bench of appalling assholes, you kinda forget how many they have until one we haven't heard from in awhile decides to shiat everywhere, then we remember, "Oh, THAT asshole. I hadn't really wondered what happened to him, just glad he was gone."

True that.  It's a tossup whether Mitch Daniels or Mike Pence was a worse governor.


Mitch sold off the tollway to Spain, which turned in to a completely predicable clusterf*ck. The funds were supposed to go toward longterm bridge and highway projects, but were just grifted to GOP donors. The projects were lowballed, started failing after less than a year, and had to be redone at taxpayer expense.
 
2020-08-05 1:11:27 PM  
I am going to assume that the headline is accurate, and that is my first mistake. Might as well not post anything else.
 
2020-08-05 1:12:19 PM  
Remember when he was touted as one of The Reasonable Republicans?
 
2020-08-05 1:13:23 PM  
"Virtually zero risk to youth"

WRONG!!!! Dead F'ing Wrong.
 
2020-08-05 1:15:32 PM  

The Perineum Falcon: GardenWeasel: None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.

As long as they get that sweet, sweet tuition money, they do not care.  Also, if students die, it frees up spots for next semester.  It is a win-win decision for the administrators.


It isn't tuition.  They could get that perfectly fine through online classes.  What they are after is the dorm and meal-plan money.  Especially if they then shut the campus down after three weeks.  The other 12 weeks just became free money.
 
2020-08-05 1:17:09 PM  

Carn: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Republicans have such a deep farking bench of appalling assholes, you kinda forget how many they have until one we haven't heard from in awhile decides to shiat everywhere, then we remember, "Oh, THAT asshole. I hadn't really wondered what happened to him, just glad he was gone."

True that.  It's a tossup whether Mitch Daniels or Mike Pence was a worse governor.


Daniels never directly caused an outbreak of Hepatitis and AIDS, so Pence wins that awfulness contest hands down.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-08-05 1:19:44 PM  
I am staff at Purdue and I think this is going to be one hell of a Charlie Foxtrot.   I have been in a lot of the video meetings they've had and the whole plan rests on the belief that Purdue students are "different" and will act in appropriate ways.  It isn't going to happen. We have some great students but they are kids and as this whole mess illustrates in spades is that people don't cooperate no matter what age. The USA has literally selected for non-cooperative people and punished the cooperative ones.  On top of that they pick and choose the science they want to believe.  They also have not addressed what happens to people who don't die and are injured forever.  My guess is they will be thrown to the wolves.

Anyway... even if everyone is 100% cooperative it will still take luck for Purdue's plan to work.  The wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time (or doing the wrong thing) I think it will fall like a house of cards.

My personal belief about this is that Mitch is putting thousands of staff members and students through this so when Tippecanoe country has to say "Uh, you aren't bringing Florida kids here, negative test or not" he can tell his donors, political friends, board members, or whatever "look, it isn't my fault!"  Mitch is not above doing something that costs everyone else time, money, and possibly health to cover his own ass.

Oh, by the way, I would say most of the faculty here think he is full of it.  Any insinuation that they all believe this will work is B.S.  Thank god I work from home, but that doesn't make me feel good about people that could possibly get harmed.
 
2020-08-05 1:20:18 PM  
Under Daniels, Indiana sold the Hoosier Lotto to a private company whose first action was to double the price of tickets. Somehow, they had in their contract a stipulation that if they didn't hit a certain profit, the state owed them money.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-08-05 1:23:08 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: "Virtually zero risk to youth"

WRONG!!!! Dead F'ing Wrong.


This has been the talking point the entire time we haven't got him to address the realities.
 
2020-08-05 1:25:06 PM  

dionysusaur: As a reluctant Hoosier, that sounds exactly like Our biatch Mitch.


I'm not a Hoosier, but I married one, and he convinced me to go to Purdue with him. I love Purdue, but I'm not a fan of Mitch.
 
2020-08-05 1:26:28 PM  

jimmythrust: As a proud Hoosier alum, I'd love to have this feather in my cap over the future corn hybrid makers of PU, but I cannot help but weep when considering the Pences and Daniels' of the world represent what people think of all Hoosiers.
Please Boilermakers, tar and feather Mitch already. You have the tech skills IU grads generally lack. We will write the essay afterwards. Promise.


See... back when I was a little guy we had two choices: scouts or The Young Marines. I opted for the latter. If someone did something wrong, similar to Gunny in Full Metal Jacket (The way I see it you all owe me for a jelly doughnut), we all got in trouble. The moral of the story is you "police your own". If you don't like the reputation that you're due you police those in your group who you have issue with.
 
2020-08-05 1:30:59 PM  

jimmythrust: Sorelian's Ghost: He needs football to balance the books and he can't have football if all the students can't go to class in person.

Simple as that.

By football you must mean basketball


Seriously. They haven't had a good football team since Drew Brees. They've had good individual players, but not a good team as a whole. In basketball, they are amazing, though.
 
2020-08-05 1:37:40 PM  

jimmythrust: Sorelian's Ghost: He needs football to balance the books and he can't have football if all the students can't go to class in person.

Simple as that.

By football you must mean basketball


For Purdue, there's nary a difference.

/'cause they suck at both
 
2020-08-05 1:43:46 PM  
"...there are more than ten other risks that are more serious to the students than this virus."

Well, that sure makes the campus sound like a safe place to be.
 
2020-08-05 1:47:07 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: jimmythrust: Sorelian's Ghost: He needs football to balance the books and he can't have football if all the students can't go to class in person.

Simple as that.

By football you must mean basketball

For Purdue, there's nary a difference.

/'cause they suck at both


Man, I miss fighting about sports and not politics.

BoilerUp
POTFH
 
2020-08-05 1:47:30 PM  
My hub's young cousin just tested positive for covid this week and plans to go back to college on Monday.

/yay for freedumbs
 
2020-08-05 1:48:22 PM  

AliasSally: My hub's young cousin just tested positive for covid this week and plans to go back to college on Monday.

/yay for freedumbs


Alert his college
 
2020-08-05 1:48:30 PM  
I'm seeing a lot of right wingers claiming that "only 20 people nationally under 18 have died of Covid"

I saw this in June and again yesterday.

This Purdue asshole sounds like he's promoting this idea of zero chance of death for young people.

I've looked for the actual numbers but my Google skill fails to find actual numbers.

Anyone know the truth?
 
2020-08-05 1:48:36 PM  
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2020-08-05 1:49:25 PM  
He says the risk to his students is "practically zero" (meaning the death rate, but not considering the folks who "recover" and appear to have long-term issues). Well, actually it's more like 0.1% which isn't zero. Out of 35,000 students that 35. So if everyone gets it, I guess he's cool with 35 dead students. Seems shiatty.
 
2020-08-05 1:52:12 PM  

Christian Bale: I'm seeing a lot of right wingers claiming that "only 20 people nationally under 18 have died of Covid"

I saw this in June and again yesterday.

This Purdue asshole sounds like he's promoting this idea of zero chance of death for young people.

I've looked for the actual numbers but my Google skill fails to find actual numbers.

Anyone know the truth?


Indiana alone has 11 deaths in the 18-29 age range
 
2020-08-05 1:54:37 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: He says the risk to his students is "practically zero" (meaning the death rate, but not considering the folks who "recover" and appear to have long-term issues). Well, actually it's more like 0.1% which isn't zero. Out of 35,000 students that 35. So if everyone gets it, I guess he's cool with 35 dead students. Seems shiatty.


What do you mean? Only 20% of all patients in Spain report lingering neurological issues for months afterwards. It's not like a fifth of the student body being dazed and unable to focus for the entire term will be a problem or anything.
 
2020-08-05 1:59:45 PM  

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What a diverse school. They've got bleached blondes AND dishwater blondes.
 
2020-08-05 2:00:28 PM  

The Perineum Falcon: GardenWeasel: None of these university administrators seem to consider the ramifications of students being infected on campus, then going home on weekends or breaks to unknowingly infect their parents/grandparents.

As long as they get that sweet, sweet tuition money, they do not care.  Also, if students die, it frees up spots for next semester.  It is a win-win decision for the administrators.


not quite that cut and dry.  Purdue has an Income Share Agreement option for students to finance college...hard to collect on that when the student is dead and/or disabled.

/don't care, I am leaving the 'and/or' because I find it funny
 
2020-08-05 2:00:36 PM  
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d23 [OhFark]
2020-08-05 2:00:56 PM  

GardenWeasel: Christian Bale: I'm seeing a lot of right wingers claiming that "only 20 people nationally under 18 have died of Covid"

I saw this in June and again yesterday.

This Purdue asshole sounds like he's promoting this idea of zero chance of death for young people.

I've looked for the actual numbers but my Google skill fails to find actual numbers.

Anyone know the truth?

Indiana alone has 11 deaths in the 18-29 age range


Within a week of the premier of Mitch's "near zero chance" talking point, there was a super-healthy baseball pitcher at another Big 10 university who dropped dead of COVID in a few days.  Fauchi was just on CNN saying that researchers think there might be a genetic reason some people are extremely susceptible.  It takes a very long time to tease something like that out.  So every person going in is spinning a wheel where one of the results is death.  I wouldn't do that willingly and I wouldn't let my kids do that.  I SURE AS HELL would not let my kids live in a dorm under situations like this.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-08-05 2:02:02 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: listerine69: [Fark user image image 425x425]

What a diverse school. They've got bleached blondes AND dishwater blondes.


Purdue tends to have a lot of right leaning students.  It IS Indiana, after all.  That is why I think we have a large group of willing lemmings and lemming parents.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-08-05 2:03:53 PM  

GardenWeasel: [Fark user image 409x443]
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Ignoring long-term health consequences and community consequences and focusing only on deaths in a certain age group is a fallacy that both you and Mitch commit here.
 
2020-08-05 2:04:26 PM  

d23: Don't Troll Me Bro!: listerine69: [Fark user image image 425x425]

What a diverse school. They've got bleached blondes AND dishwater blondes.

Purdue tends to have a lot of right leaning students.  It IS Indiana, after all.  That is why I think we have a large group of willing lemmings and lemming parents.


It's funny that my experiences at Purdue is WHY I'm a liberal. When I arrived on campus I was a Young Republican.
 
2020-08-05 2:05:44 PM  
Kick em out of the Big 10.
 
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