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2020-08-05 9:25:55 AM  
No, they will need more paywalls, pop-up videos, slideshows that have advertisements than text. That will be the only way to save journalism.
 
2020-08-05 9:59:50 AM  

Merltech: No, they will need more paywalls, pop-up videos, slideshows that have advertisements than text. That will be the only way to save journalism.


It will save those company, and it will save America.
 
2020-08-05 10:08:57 AM  
What kind of cookies are we talking about? I can't support killing chocolate chip, especially if it's got peanuts added in.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-08-05 10:11:28 AM  
How many techniques like browser fingerprinting, tracking IP addresses, and noting referrers are legal in Europe? You can learn a lot without a cookie.
 
2020-08-05 10:28:36 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: What kind of cookies are we talking about? I can't support killing chocolate chip, especially if it's got peanuts added in.


Chocolate Cookies Matter.
 
2020-08-05 10:30:26 AM  
As long as they get paid based on clicks, they will continue to push out crap, or invent news, and doomsday report us to death.
 
2020-08-05 11:12:23 AM  

OldJames: As long as they get paid based on clicks, they will continue to push out crap, or invent news, and doomsday report us to death.


And people will eat it up.

But it's no different than it used to be.  News organizations have always been paid based upon views. whether it was papers sold, Nielson ratings, or clicks.  It's ad revenue.

And when the latest outrage hits the media, people forget that they've been mislead previously, either intentionally or unintentionally, by the very same organizations that they absolutely believe now because it confirms their biases.
 
2020-08-05 11:28:23 AM  
I do most of my web interacting on a PC and with Adblock Plus and Privacy Badger.  About the only ads I see are when checking gmail on my phone, where Google slips in email-looking ads at the top of the inbox.

But I seem to get only get about 3 types or specific ads" PCBWay, Manscaped and some singles site.

Now I can't really avoid Google's tracking since I use gmail and Hangouts.  And I guess the first two categories - printed circuit boards and shaving - do apply to me sort of.  But my chats and my emails are chock full of me communicating with my family and, prominently, with my wife.  So it's almost creepy that I get ads for dating sites.
 
2020-08-05 12:19:32 PM  
"The results weren't terribly surprising: 90 percent of users opted out."

No, 10 percent opted in. The rest either opted out explicitly or made no choice.

It's not that hard to write things. I'd do it but I'd take a huge pay cut. So I'm expecting all of you "writers" to try a little.
 
2020-08-05 12:30:10 PM  

recondite cetacean: "The results weren't terribly surprising: 90 percent of users opted out."

No, 10 percent opted in. The rest either opted out explicitly or made no choice.

It's not that hard to write things. I'd do it but I'd take a huge pay cut. So I'm expecting all of you "writers" to try a little.


Journalism is what you get into when you're not good at anything, but were born into a social class for whom working at a convenience store or a WalMart is unthinkable.
 
2020-08-05 4:23:34 PM  

recondite cetacean: "The results weren't terribly surprising: 90 percent of users opted out."

No, 10 percent opted in. The rest either opted out explicitly or made no choice.

It's not that hard to write things. I'd do it but I'd take a huge pay cut. So I'm expecting all of you "writers" to try a little.


What happened to "affirmative consent"? If you don't say "yes", you're saying "no".
 
2020-08-05 10:32:23 PM  
Half the links I see here are blocked by non- paywall subscription blocks or cookie requests so large you can only see one line of type on the articles. Admittedly I'm on my phone, not my laptop, but it still bugs the piss out of me. Sure the sites need revenue, but the model is broken.
I've always thought IPs should share some of the astronomical revenue they generate with news content providers, even a penny per hit is something. Telus in canada makes more money than God, it's only fair.
 
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