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2020-08-05 8:56:56 AM  
"State funded healthcare" sounds a lot more politically acceptable than lot of other labels.
 
2020-08-05 9:09:50 AM  
About time.  That should save some lives.
 
2020-08-05 9:10:43 AM  
Finally.
 
2020-08-05 9:39:28 AM  
That's crazy.  People want health care rather than die from the ideology of Ayn Rand?
 
2020-08-05 9:46:23 AM  
The urban areas had to pass something to save rural hospitals and the lives of the people who voted overwhelmingly against it.

The urban areas here also get back only about 80% of the tax revenue they pay into the state. So we are also paying for the hillbilly farks too.
 
2020-08-05 10:03:46 AM  
The GOP state legislature will try to stop this.
 
2020-08-05 10:18:40 AM  

thorpe: The GOP state legislature will try to stop this.


Well, yes.  Even if passed, they will still try to screw it out of existence, based on the logic of "our masters say that is not what they really want, despite the words used and voted upon."
 
2020-08-05 10:18:59 AM  
For some reason Missouri is good at voting for progressive ideas (minimum wage, fair redistricting, against CCW, etc.) but then we vote in a bunch of GOP a-holes to implement those policies.

I know it's because there are only four blue islands in a sea of red and all those red districts get to send a rep to the state govt. and the cities only get a small handful.

Anyway let's hope we can keep the momentum up and put Gov. Mike "[The kids] will get over it (COVID)" Parsons on his ass in Nov.

Go Nicolle!
 
2020-08-05 10:31:26 AM  

Uncle Eazy: For some reason Missouri is good at voting for progressive ideas (minimum wage, fair redistricting, against CCW, etc.) but then we vote in a bunch of GOP a-holes to implement those policies.

I know it's because there are only four blue islands in a sea of red and all those red districts get to send a rep to the state govt. and the cities only get a small handful.

Anyway let's hope we can keep the momentum up and put Gov. Mike "[The kids] will get over it (COVID)" Parsons on his ass in Nov.

Go Nicolle!


Registered as a Missouri Voter yesterday....so excited to vote for Nicolle!

/although in KC...so it will probably go blue anyway.
 
2020-08-05 10:31:52 AM  
Harry is spinning at a slower rate in his grave
 
2020-08-05 10:33:54 AM  
Missouri GOP: "see, this is why we're blocking you from voting in November - you make decisions we don't like!"
 
2020-08-05 10:35:59 AM  

bobobolinskii: Harry is spinning at a slower rate in his grave


I have it on good authority that he doesn't mind if he doesn't make the scene.  He's got a day time job, he's doing all right.
 
2020-08-05 10:36:58 AM  

Uncle Eazy: For some reason Missouri is good at voting for progressive ideas (minimum wage, fair redistricting, against CCW, etc.) but then we vote in a bunch of GOP a-holes to implement those policies.


That's generally true nationwide. Just follow the ballot initiatives on election day every two years. Roughly 3/4ths of them will wind up on the position generally held by liberals, even in states that simultaneously back GOP candidates. Legalized marijuana, expanded medicaid, expanded protections for LGBTQ persons, etc.
 
2020-08-05 10:42:17 AM  

thorpe: The GOP state legislature will try to stop this.


Missouri GOP:

"ThE vOTeRs DiD nOt UnDeRsTaNd WhAt ThEy WeRe VoTiNg FoR"

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2020-08-05 10:44:54 AM  
Thanks, Obama!
 
2020-08-05 10:46:08 AM  

wejash: The urban areas had to pass something to save rural hospitals and the lives of the people who voted overwhelmingly against it.

The urban areas here also get back only about 80% of the tax revenue they pay into the state. So we are also paying for the hillbilly farks too.


I love that hillbillies think they're superior to anyone.  Roadkill's smarter than these farks.
 
2020-08-05 10:46:27 AM  
"Well, it's a lot better than Obamacare."
 
2020-08-05 10:47:29 AM  
I know countless Missourians in the Franklin county region that have numerous left leaning beliefs but have been brainwashed by churches that even thinking about voting for some godless baby killing demoncrat is a literal sin.
 
2020-08-05 10:49:19 AM  
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2020-08-05 10:49:20 AM  

mattj1984: I know countless Missourians in the Franklin county region that have numerous left leaning beliefs but have been brainwashed by churches that even thinking about voting for some godless baby killing demoncrat is a literal sin.


That's the real problem.

The unholy marriage between Christianity and the Republican Party was a big turn off of both to me.
 
2020-08-05 10:49:22 AM  
Can we finally get the Obama death commandos? I was promised 10 years ago that government troops would break into nursing homes and harvest grasndma for spare parts.

I. Don't. Like. My. Family.

I voted for that explicit thing.
 
2020-08-05 10:50:01 AM  

Marine1: Everything you need to know in one image.

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I like to think I helped St. Charles County turn green.
 
2020-08-05 10:53:07 AM  

thorpe: The GOP state legislature will try to stop this.


The folks pushing for the ballot initiative knew this, so it's a change to the state constitution that will be very, very hard for the GOP to ratfark.


While Republican leaders in other expansion states were able to slow-walk expansion implementation, the language used in Missouri's ballot measure ensures that Medicaid expansion is enshrined in the state's constitution, which would make it extremely difficult for Parson or the legislature to dismantle it in the future or add any conservative policies, like work requirements.
 
2020-08-05 10:55:44 AM  
That will work a lot better than some terrible federal system. States can adapt, try different things, see what works. Compare what they are doing to what the other states are doing. And people can move to states that do things how they like. The feds try one thing, and then thats pretty much what we are stuck with. Good or bad. Usually bad.
 
2020-08-05 10:55:56 AM  

thorpe: The GOP state legislature will try to stop this.


That's what the GOP in Michigan did , we voted to end gerrymandering in Michigan in 2018, we're still waiting.
 
2020-08-05 10:56:59 AM  
Please let us turn blue
Please let us turn blue
Please let us turn blue
 
2020-08-05 10:58:30 AM  

Mrtraveler01: mattj1984: I know countless Missourians in the Franklin county region that have numerous left leaning beliefs but have been brainwashed by churches that even thinking about voting for some godless baby killing demoncrat is a literal sin.

That's the real problem.

The unholy marriage between Christianity and the Republican Party was a big turn off of both to me.


We used to have Republican politicians come in and preach at our churches around election time. None of them were even our denomination. They just knew a couple people from our congregation do they got a foot in the door. In 17 when our pastor said something to the effect of "Thank God we have a president who encourages prayer!" that was the last straw for me. Haven't been back since. I cannot be a part of a church that yoked with a political party, much less that disgusting man.
 
2020-08-05 11:00:08 AM  
"Gee, the bus stop is far! I wonder what's near!"
"Neeaaarrrrr"
.......
"Show us, far"
"Faaarrrrrr"
 
2020-08-05 11:00:16 AM  

thorpe: The GOP state legislature will try to stop this.


They specifically put this vote in the primary to make sure turn out was low and decrease chance of passing...so NelsonHaHa to that!!

Voted for it.
 
2020-08-05 11:03:30 AM  
Nebraska did too.  But our enormous human thumb of a governor has thrown up every roadblock possible to implementing the will of the people.

Republicans are cartoonishly evil.
 
2020-08-05 11:03:46 AM  

mattj1984: Mrtraveler01: mattj1984: I know countless Missourians in the Franklin county region that have numerous left leaning beliefs but have been brainwashed by churches that even thinking about voting for some godless baby killing demoncrat is a literal sin.

That's the real problem.

The unholy marriage between Christianity and the Republican Party was a big turn off of both to me.

We used to have Republican politicians come in and preach at our churches around election time. None of them were even our denomination. They just knew a couple people from our congregation do they got a foot in the door. In 17 when our pastor said something to the effect of "Thank God we have a president who encourages prayer!" that was the last straw for me. Haven't been back since. I cannot be a part of a church that yoked with a political party, much less that disgusting man.


The Catholic Church was a lot more subtle but basically you get the gist that a "good Catholic" only votes Republican because abortion.

That pretty much was the last straw for me too.
 
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2020-08-05 11:04:48 AM  

Marine1: Everything you need to know in one image.

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I was really surprised St. Charles County went for this. Good Job!
 
2020-08-05 11:10:52 AM  

zez: Marine1: Everything you need to know in one image.

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I was really surprised St. Charles County went for this. Good Job!


Thanks.

I think the reality is that the people mattj1984 talk about being in Franklin County are also in St. Charles County too.

It does tend to be more moderate compared to the rest of the state (low bar), but I think it's a Republican stronghold mostly because Jesus and abortion.
 
2020-08-05 11:11:19 AM  

shastacola: thorpe: The GOP state legislature will try to stop this.

That's what the GOP in Michigan did , we voted to end gerrymandering in Michigan in 2018, we're still waiting.


And in Florida the voters restored voting rights to felons which the GOP has successfully stopped with their poll tax.
 
2020-08-05 11:22:40 AM  
I'm still confident the legislature can ignore the will of the people find a way to screw over poor people, because that's pretty much all they're good for these days.

If we elect Galloway in November it's got a chance of being done right.
 
2020-08-05 11:27:17 AM  
I was surprised the Springfield area showed up blue. That part of the state is hard core red.
 
2020-08-05 11:38:51 AM  

Mrtraveler01: but I think it's a Republican stronghold mostly because Jesus and abortion.


That describes all of Southeast (Missouri), too.
 
2020-08-05 12:01:14 PM  

wejash: The urban areas here also get back only about 80% of the tax revenue they pay into the state. So we are also paying for the hillbilly farks too.


This is exactly why people think liberals are hypocrites.
 
2020-08-05 12:04:07 PM  

mattj1984: Mrtraveler01: mattj1984: I know countless Missourians in the Franklin county region that have numerous left leaning beliefs but have been brainwashed by churches that even thinking about voting for some godless baby killing demoncrat is a literal sin.

That's the real problem.

The unholy marriage between Christianity and the Republican Party was a big turn off of both to me.

We used to have Republican politicians come in and preach at our churches around election time. None of them were even our denomination. They just knew a couple people from our congregation do they got a foot in the door. In 17 when our pastor said something to the effect of "Thank God we have a president who encourages prayer!" that was the last straw for me. Haven't been back since. I cannot be a part of a church that yoked with a political party, much less that disgusting man.


The church I grew up in had John farking Ashcroft come in to talk one time. I was only 14ish at the time but I still knew that didn't sit right with me. And I remember the pastor saying with a straight face that he thought Bill Clinton was the most immoral man to hold the office of presidency in the entire history of the US.

That's when I knew evangelical Christianity was a batshiat cult and it was time to explore other options
 
2020-08-05 12:05:05 PM  

paygun: wejash: The urban areas here also get back only about 80% of the tax revenue they pay into the state. So we are also paying for the hillbilly farks too.

This is exactly why people think liberals are hypocrites.


Actually its conservative people in rural areas that are the hypocrites.

This Medicaid expansion is primarily going to benefit the hospitals in rural areas but rural areas voted against it. It only passed because the urban and suburban areas voted for it.
 
2020-08-05 12:11:51 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Actually its conservative people in rural areas that are the hypocrites.

This Medicaid expansion is primarily going to benefit the hospitals in rural areas but rural areas voted against it. It only passed because the urban and suburban areas voted for it.


You forgot to call them hillbilly farks and then complain that they won't vote the way you want.
 
2020-08-05 12:17:15 PM  

paygun: Mrtraveler01: Actually its conservative people in rural areas that are the hypocrites.

This Medicaid expansion is primarily going to benefit the hospitals in rural areas but rural areas voted against it. It only passed because the urban and suburban areas voted for it.

You forgot to call them hillbilly farks and then complain that they won't vote the way you want.


I think calling them "hypocrites" sums it up nicely.
 
2020-08-05 12:20:58 PM  

Marine1: Everything you need to know in one image.

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How odd, all the counties in the state that aren't actual hell to live in are blue on that map. So weird.

/ The blue ones are just somewhat hell-like.
// It's named "misery" for a reason.
/// At least Springfield is kind of near some semi-OK natural environments, unlike the other three.
/\ Wanna live somewhere you have to drive 3+ hours to reach a "good" hiking trail people in other states would consider not worth bothering with unless it was actually attached to their neighborhood? Choose Missouri!
 
2020-08-05 12:46:46 PM  
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2020-08-05 12:56:59 PM  

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1) Democratic policy messaging is god-awful. Admittedly Republicans have a natural advantage since they're just peddling bullshiat.

2) Gerrymandering.

3) Representation rules that favor land over population.

4) Election laws that leave us with only two viable parties, so there's no "yes to liberal social programs, but no to abortion" option on the ballot when voting for a candidate.

There, conversation had.
 
2020-08-05 1:23:13 PM  

Alphax: About time.  That should save some lives.


Is it still an option?  Doesn't the Federal government have to co-operate?
 
2020-08-05 1:40:02 PM  

flondrix: Alphax: About time.  That should save some lives.

Is it still an option?  Doesn't the Federal government have to co-operate?


Look... it is what it is.
 
2020-08-05 2:02:25 PM  

the_colors: The church I grew up in had John farking Ashcroft come in to talk one time. I was only 14ish at the time but I still knew that didn't sit right with me. And I remember the pastor saying with a straight face that he thought Bill Clinton was the most immoral man to hold the office of presidency in the entire history of the US.

That's when I knew evangelical Christianity was a batshiat cult and it was time to explore other options


Youngun.  I can remember whan Jimmy Carter was supposed to be the Antichrist.

/Just how many Antichrists to they get, anyway?
 
2020-08-05 4:39:47 PM  

flondrix: Alphax: About time.  That should save some lives.

Is it still an option?  Doesn't the Federal government have to co-operate?


It should at the least cut into the number of people dying at home because they feel they can't possibly see a doctor.
 
2020-08-05 8:58:52 PM  

Alphax: flondrix: Alphax: About time.  That should save some lives.

Is it still an option?  Doesn't the Federal government have to co-operate?

It should at the least cut into the number of people dying at home because they feel they can't possibly see a doctor.


IF medicaid is indeed expanded.  Medicaid is a federal program.  Is the current federal government willing to expand medicaid in Missouri?
 
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