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2020-08-05 7:59:14 AM  
I have treatment resistant depression. This is of interest to me.
 
2020-08-05 8:06:18 AM  
I have a bunch of clients with treatment resistant depression. This is also of interest to me.
 
2020-08-05 8:13:49 AM  
I have people resistant quarantization.

/wrong thread?
 
2020-08-05 8:22:27 AM  
Headline of TFA: "FDA approves first nasal spray used to treat patients with suicidal thoughts"

TFA text:
"The company says it does not know if Spravato is effective in preventing suicide, but it is not a substitute for hospitalization and clinical treatments."

/Would love to see an effective treatment for depression, but this sounds like a "happy" drug that people will be hitting harder than booger sugar.
//I'm sure it will be profitable
///Slashies!!!
 
2020-08-05 8:38:04 AM  
Psychotic episodes on 3...2...1...
 
2020-08-05 8:38:07 AM  
No thanks.  I'll just have a Pepsi.
 
2020-08-05 8:39:26 AM  
Everything you want!? Everything you need? Just sign the paper.
 
2020-08-05 8:39:29 AM  
How does it pair with alcohol and weed?

Asking for a friend.
 
2020-08-05 8:41:22 AM  
Is that the one with ketamine in it?
 
2020-08-05 8:43:14 AM  
So I bet you I could pass the piss test snorting this brain candy junk, but God forbid they find a trace of THC (which although of courseI'd never do, I strongly suspect it would help with my flavor of down) there goes my license forever.

Tired of my country. I'd trade passport for an EC one at this point if I somehow could. They farking have them out to Russian Petro criminals.

The amount of pain, destruction, and death that's now required to fix US is probably worse than Civil War part 1 and for pretty much a lot of the same reasons with pretty much the same characters.

Well, it's expensive pharmaceuticals I guess.
 
2020-08-05 8:44:14 AM  
Living every day in this timeline makes me suicidal.
 
2020-08-05 8:44:45 AM  

Rapmaster2000: No thanks.  I'll just have a Pepsi.


Skate or die.
Spray or suicide.
 
2020-08-05 8:45:19 AM  
 
2020-08-05 8:48:32 AM  

Kalashinator: From Spravato's (esketamine) wiki article:

The cost of the nasal spray as of 2019 will be US$4,700 to $6,800 for the first month.[7]


Well, that is depressing.
 
2020-08-05 8:51:58 AM  
So they invented cocaine?
 
2020-08-05 8:52:50 AM  

OneFretAway: Kalashinator: From Spravato's (esketamine) wiki article:

The cost of the nasal spray as of 2019 will be US$4,700 to $6,800 for the first month.[7]

Well, that is depressing.


That makes a coke addiction look cheap. 🤔
 
2020-08-05 8:55:16 AM  

Mister Buttons: How does it pair with alcohol and weed?

Asking for a friend.


Hard pass.  That combo has never ended well for me.

/I'd just do the weed
 
2020-08-05 8:56:46 AM  

Mister Buttons: How does it pair with alcohol and weed?

Asking for a friend.


I wouldn't mix ketamine and booze and I used to party pretty hard.
 
2020-08-05 8:57:28 AM  
You don't get to take the spray home with you. You go to the office, take it, give it back to the medical assistant, and sit there for about 2 hours while they monitor your vital signs. Sprativo is a way to administer ketamine. You have all the restrictions of someone who had surgery with ketamine as an anaesthetic. After that, you need to Uber or arrange for someone to drive you home.

Anecdotally from some of the people in the trials: you won't get much benefit if you have a stuffy nose or chronic sinus problems. Please, let insurance cover the IV administration already. Oops, there isn't a huge profit in that because ketamine is a cheap drug and IV infusion isn't a fun, new, expensive patent.
 
2020-08-05 8:57:41 AM  

Private_Citizen: Headline of TFA: "FDA approves first nasal spray used to treat patients with suicidal thoughts"

TFA text:
"The company says it does not know if Spravato is effective in preventing suicide, but it is not a substitute for hospitalization and clinical treatments."

/Would love to see an effective treatment for depression, but this sounds like a "happy" drug that people will be hitting harder than booger sugar.
//I'm sure it will be profitable
///Slashies!!!


I don't know about the nasal spray version, but Ketamine IV therapy was an interesting and ultimately helpful thing for me. It took me a couple of weeks to realize "wait, why am I not moping right now? Where...where did the moping go?" and adjust accordingly.

I wouldn't really call it a "happy drug". It just erased the persistent depression for nearly a year. It was still up to me to figure out what to do with my altered outlook. It was strange learning how to do things without being depressed.
 
2020-08-05 9:05:29 AM  

xanadian: Mister Buttons: How does it pair with alcohol and weed?

Asking for a friend.

Hard pass.  That combo has never ended well for me.

/I'd just do the weed


I mix alcohol and weed err'yday.
 
2020-08-05 9:06:12 AM  

Biscuit Tin: I have treatment resistant depression. This is of interest to me.


I like to get high on pet meds.  Plus, I'm a big fan of the movie Jacob's ladder.
 
2020-08-05 9:10:49 AM  

Mister Buttons: How does it pair with alcohol and weed?

Asking for a friend.


sad but true, been there done that. moderation of a few drinkies and a nice joint does more to help alleviate the blues than most anything else IMHO. over 20 years diagnosed and medicated, they're just now looking into getting me a cannabis card. good grief.
 
2020-08-05 9:13:38 AM  
We've secretly substituted Grampa Grumps Afrin, with mountain-grown Ecstacy crystals.

Will it be rich enough?
 
2020-08-05 9:15:16 AM  
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2020-08-05 9:22:22 AM  

A'Tuin: You don't get to take the spray home with you. You go to the office, take it, give it back to the medical assistant, and sit there for about 2 hours while they monitor your vital signs. Sprativo is a way to administer ketamine. You have all the restrictions of someone who had surgery with ketamine as an anaesthetic. After that, you need to Uber or arrange for someone to drive you home.

Anecdotally from some of the people in the trials: you won't get much benefit if you have a stuffy nose or chronic sinus problems. Please, let insurance cover the IV administration already. Oops, there isn't a huge profit in that because ketamine is a cheap drug and IV infusion isn't a fun, new, expensive patent.


Pharma companies love to take an old cheap generic, come up with a new way to deliver it, patent it like they discovered penicillin, and then market the hell out of it so people will yell at their insurance companies to cover the king's ransom the pharma company is charging.

This is one of the big reasons America pays so much for healthcare, and gets so little.
 
2020-08-05 10:02:17 AM  
How long will it take for black market knockoffs to hit the streets?
 
2020-08-05 10:03:55 AM  

Rapmaster2000: No thanks.  I'll just have a Pepsi.


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2020-08-05 10:03:56 AM  
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2020-08-05 10:16:13 AM  

fragMasterFlash: How long will it take for black market knockoffs to hit the streets?


It's called "Special K".
 
2020-08-05 11:05:53 AM  
Just leave me alone, I'll figure it out.
They just keep bugging me.
They just keep bugging me.
 
2020-08-05 11:46:41 AM  

MasterPython: fragMasterFlash: How long will it take for black market knockoffs to hit the streets?

It's called "Special K".


I don't think as many people will be interested in wearing a diaper while couchlocked for 48 hours as would want to be able to have a quick noseblast of vapor that chills them the fark out for an hour or two. Thus the dilemma of the black market, always going for maximum strength rather than catering to niche usage.
 
2020-08-05 12:03:50 PM  

Biscuit Tin: I have treatment resistant depression. This is of interest to me.


Have you tried TMS?
 
2020-08-05 12:05:31 PM  

fragMasterFlash: MasterPython: fragMasterFlash: How long will it take for black market knockoffs to hit the streets?

It's called "Special K".

I don't think as many people will be interested in wearing a diaper while couchlocked for 48 hours as would want to be able to have a quick noseblast of vapor that chills them the fark out for an hour or two. Thus the dilemma of the black market, always going for maximum strength rather than catering to niche usage.


If you mix the K with some E, you don't get stuck in the K-hole.


/or uh, so I've heard
 
2020-08-05 12:39:43 PM  

Mister Buttons: How does it pair with alcohol and weed?

Asking for a friend.


What d'ya think's in the spray?

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Tomorrow's headline: butt-chugging to prevent terminal boredom!
 
2020-08-05 12:56:23 PM  

fragMasterFlash: How long will it take for black market knockoffs to hit the streets?


Over the counter oxytocin is already for sale.
 
2020-08-05 1:16:18 PM  
I'd love to try it. I dont have that kinda money, tho.
 
2020-08-05 2:56:15 PM  
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This is the third time in as many months that I've posted this song in a K thread. It's still a good song.
 
2020-08-05 3:36:30 PM  

A'Tuin: You don't get to take the spray home with you. You go to the office, take it, give it back to the medical assistant, and sit there for about 2 hours while they monitor your vital signs. Sprativo is a way to administer ketamine. You have all the restrictions of someone who had surgery with ketamine as an anaesthetic. After that, you need to Uber or arrange for someone to drive you home.

Anecdotally from some of the people in the trials: you won't get much benefit if you have a stuffy nose or chronic sinus problems. Please, let insurance cover the IV administration already. Oops, there isn't a huge profit in that because ketamine is a cheap drug and IV infusion isn't a fun, new, expensive patent.


I love that the analysis is "why won't the insurance cover this" and not "holy crap they're charging $5K per dose!"
 
2020-08-05 4:08:41 PM  
 
2020-08-05 10:44:50 PM  
This country really needs better mental health care.

/vote
 
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