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(DeadState)   According to this guy, if you vote for Biden, you have "Sold your soul to the devil"   (deadstate.org) divider line
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2020-08-05 9:11:53 AM  
Jokes on him I traded mine for a really nice gaming PC.
 
2020-08-05 9:24:58 AM  
If even one political statement was enough to cost you your tax exempt status for the year, like you'd imagine separation of church and state would...pastors would be more careful about claiming who god wants you to vote for.

In fact, it should be penalized by charging them taxes at the highest possible bracket that year,   allowing for no allowances.

Religion in America is weaponized. It will alwsys have a role in politics. But if churches can influence elections with their voices or money, and allowed to get away with it - why pretend there is a wall separating church and state?
 
2020-08-05 9:48:36 AM  

edmo: If Republicans are so against abortion, why didn't they pass a law against it the first two years of Trump's term? They've got a conservative SCOTUS. Always promising to kill abortion if you vote for them yet it never happens. Weird.


People like Jeffress would vote for Hitler if he promised to ban abortion.  It is not an exaggeration.  It is exactly how societies sink into authoritarianism.
 
2020-08-05 10:26:12 AM  
What christian has a soul these days?  It's just an evil cult of trump worship.
 
2020-08-05 11:11:45 AM  

BizarreMan: I didn't sell it, I offered it freely and willingly.


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2020-08-05 11:21:22 AM  
So if I vote for Biden, I'll become a great blues guitar player? Deal!
 
2020-08-05 11:21:46 AM  
You know, there used to be some sort of law that prohibited churches from using their pulpits to force congregations to vote for one candidate and not vote for the other.

But here we see an in-broad-daylight violation where some preacher is openly telling christians if they vote Biden they're going straight to Hell. That's no mere "vote with your conscience" type of gentle prodding. That's using a cattle prod and a baseball bat.
 
2020-08-05 12:38:07 PM  

GoldSpider: gameshowhost: i can't sell what doesn't exist

hehe fark you, religion!

I figured this article was about you guys.


I'm only one person (._. ) wtf
 
2020-08-05 12:39:05 PM  

Marcos P: Jokes on him I traded mine for a really nice gaming PC.


Except it's covered in RGB and lights up the entire neighborhood. Satan!!
 
2020-08-05 3:44:43 PM  
I wonder what Jeffress and his ilk would think of the prophecies of "Bands"?

tonguedepressor: saturn badger: tonguedepressor: What is the going rate for an everlasting soul anyway?

Three fiddy

Was expecting at least a 72 Trans Am....what a rip.

Massively Multiplayer Addict: The Devil's a pretty nice guy actually. I' d happily give him my soul anytime!

I'm reminded of how the "Satan" of South Park is portrayed as much nicer than the "God" thereof. Stan Marsh asked God a question on the eve of Y2K (that he was pretty much maneuvered into asking) and the whole world briefly hated him for it because he wasted humanity's one question per millennium to ask of God (Stan asked why he hadn't gotten his period yet). Years later, Stan asked Satan a question and Satan sat in Stan's bedroom and patiently explained the mechanism of addiction (he then did possess Stan, but he asked permission first, so that he could confront Beelzeboot the Canadian Devil).
 
2020-08-05 4:32:48 PM  

johnphantom: "I mean, it's so barbaric, Joe Biden believes in unrestricted abortion. He can't even get his own church, the Catholic Church, to stomach it. They have denied him communion because of that."

Abortion is so barbaric it is in the Bible:

The Bible supports abortion performed by priests by giving an abortifacient to women in 20 unambiguous verses, Numbers 5:11-31, especially read 27: If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

Numbers 5:11-31 The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11Then the Lord said to Moses, 12"Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'If a man's wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure-or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure- 15then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16"'The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, "If no other man has had sexual relations w ...

See also the middle part of Numbers Chapter 3 wherein the LORD twice commands a census, first of the Levites, then of all Israelites, "from a month old and up." Seven times that phrase occurs therein: twice the LORD God HImself commanding it, and the other five describing it being carried out. This divinely ordered census is what gave the Book of Numbers its very name! It's also referenced once in Deuteronomy with the same restriction: "from a month old and up."

And Leviticus Chapter 27, in which the LORD assigns monetary value in His eye to persons based on gender (men worth more than women, natch) and age group (working / warring / childbearing age worth the most, followed by youth and older children, followed by seniors, and finally infants through preschool age ― but even that last group has a minimum age specified: "from a month old even unto five years old." The seniors age group has no maximum age specified to its range, so it's not like God didn't understand the concept of a single-bounded numeric range. No value at all is specified for those under age one month ― they have no value whatsoever in the eyes of the LORD God of Israel!

Thus, the Law of Moses makes it quite plain that not only does Personhood in their God's eyes not begin at conception (let alone fertilization), it doesn't begin at "quickening" either (the usual demarcation in medieval times when the soul was said to enter the body), nor at birth, nor at first breath. It's not until a lunar month (Semitic calendar of the time) had passed: basically, the parents were to look at the Moon on the night the baby was born, mark its phase, then not consider it a full Person until the moon returned to that same phase. (Of course, this was because infant mortality was so high back then that it wasn't worth it to get attached to the kid until it'd proven it could survive at least a month.)

This continued into the time of the New Testament, too. "Abortion is moider!" types will tell you that the Koine Greek word for "unborn" is the same as for "newborn." This is true! But they neglect to mention that not only did the Greeks and Romans and others in the region practice abortion without legal penalty, they also practiced infanticide ― aain, without legal penalty! The demarcation was about a month old. After that, the term for "infant" was a different term with a different legal status involving being considered a Person. It was legal to kill a human at any stage denoted by the other term, whether pre- or post-birth, because they weren't considered Persons yet!

"Murder" is defined as the unjustifiable and intentional killing of a Person, not merely a human being.
 
2020-08-05 5:39:46 PM  
"And I didn't even keep the receipt."

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2020-08-05 6:23:24 PM  

edmo: If Republicans are so against abortion, why didn't they pass a law against it the first two years of Trump's term? They've got a conservative SCOTUS. Always promising to kill abortion if you vote for them yet it never happens. Weird.


Many people vote republicans only for the abortion issue. If abortion was illegal they'd have no reason to vote.
 
2020-08-05 6:29:55 PM  

Mugato: edmo: If Republicans are so against abortion, why didn't they pass a law against it the first two years of Trump's term? They've got a conservative SCOTUS. Always promising to kill abortion if you vote for them yet it never happens. Weird.

Many people vote republicans only for the abortion issue. If abortion was illegal they'd have no reason to vote.

So much this!
 
2020-08-05 8:52:58 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Langdon_777: I take this turd isn't up to date with the Lucifer series.  He has changed a lot since the Garden of Eden.

It wasn't even Lucifer in the Garden, just one of his subordinates.
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I didn't see a comment from you in this thread, so I don't know if you caught the Quarantine Special that the two main characters made on the 30th Anniversary of the original publication of Good Omens, but just in case you haven't, enjoy:
Good Omens: Lockdown
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Alphax: He should watch this clip.  He might learn something.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/AnmGthpl​AUM]

I never watched that series because I know that "Lucifer" in the Bible was never Satan in the first place, nor any fallen angel. He's just a human being, albeit the most politically powerful one known to exist or have ever existed as far as the Israelites of the time knew: the King of Babylon. Isaiah chapter 14, the only place where "Lucifer" is mentioned (and only in the KJV and a few other translations at that), says this outright.

It's based on the Neil Gaiman's DC Comics version of the character from Sandman and the Lucifer comics, right?

That video clip, which echoes a scene from his Sandman appearance (where Dream goes to Hell to challenge Lucifer for the soul of Nada, prompting Lucifer to quit being ruler of Hell and to shut the place down), makes me wonder about another fictional version of Satan, namely, the South Park version (R.I.P.?).

Only Mormons go to South Park's "Heaven" and everyone else goes to its "Hell." But why? Mormonism is very much not the true religion in the South Park world. Even discounting Joseph Smith's history as summarized in "All About the Mormons," there's also the fact that neither the South Park "God" nor "Satan" look human, and the angels (as seen in "BFF") have wings. In LDS theology, God and Satan are both fully human in form, as are angels. "Wings" spoken of in the Bible are symbolic, not literal. Also, the whole idea that only Mormons would go to "Heaven" is itself a contradiction of LDS theology which holds that there are multiple levels of "Heaven" and that everyone who doesn't blaspheme the Holy Ghost will at least achieve the lowest level, and those that live by whatever religious or moral or ethical code they believe to the best of their ability will achieve the middle level which is at least as good as the Garden of Eden.

I speculate that the reason is that other religions believe that you need only confess sins to God (most Protestants) or to a priest (Catholics) to have them absolved, or even that you only have to accept Jesus Christ as Personal Savior to be saved (Dispensationalism and others). So, when you die, you still have feelings of guilt over what you did to friends and family and even people you didn't know nor care about while alive, and those keep you from walking out of Hell because you don't feel worthy of Heaven.

The LDS believe that you have to confess sins to the people you wronged, do your best to make restitution, and beg their forgiveness (they don't have to give it, but you're supposed to ask), and only then does the blood of Christ fully wash the sins away. All sins are offenses against God and need to be confessed to Him, but sins against others need to be confessed to them as well. So LDS who truly live by that would be the only ones who feel that they have truly recompensed those who they wronged to the best of their ability, and thus not feel the need to be punished in Hell.
 
2020-08-05 9:24:38 PM  

COMALite J: I never watched that series because I know that "Lucifer" in the Bible was never Satan in the first place, nor any fallen angel.


You don't watch a fantasy show because it isn't historically accurate?

/never saw the show myself
//loves "Lucifer"
///knows it's not a documentary
 
2020-08-05 11:32:03 PM  

Mugato: Many people vote republicans only for the abortion issue. If abortion was illegal they'd have no reason to vote.


They'd vote to keep it illegal.
 
2020-08-06 12:17:03 AM  
The main way in Christianity to guarantee the loss of your soul even if you were "saved" is to Blaspheme the Holy Ghost.

You know, like 51 of the 53 Republican Senators did when they raised their right hands to the square with fingers pointed towards His Heavenly Throne, and swore, "so help me, God!" to render impartial justice ― an oath that those 51 had no intentions of keeping even at the time they swore the oath, because just weeks later they voted to not even hear witnesses or see evidence against Trump.

Swearing falsely in the name of God is a form of blasphemy, and since nearly all if not absolutely all of these GOP Senators claim to profess Trinitarian Christianity, they believe that God includes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, so they blasphemed the Holy Ghost which Jesus Christ Himself said would not be forgiven, in this world or in the world to come. His words, in red ink.

Mugato: Let's set up a scoreboard for the number of commandments and seven deadly sins each candidate has broken.

Actually let's not bother.

And Beatitudes (100% red ink in a Red Letter Edition) that each has been the 180° diametric opposite of.
 
2020-08-06 12:21:31 AM  

BMFPitt: Mugato: Many people vote republicans only for the abortion issue. If abortion was illegal they'd have no reason to vote.

They'd vote to keep it illegal.


Perhaps. But in a lot less droves.
 
2020-08-06 12:45:02 AM  

COMALite J: The main way in Christianity to guarantee the loss of your soul even if you were "saved" is to Blaspheme the Holy Ghost.

You know, like 51 of the 53 Republican Senators did when they raised their right hands to the square with fingers pointed towards His Heavenly Throne, and swore, "so help me, God!" to render impartial justice ― an oath that those 51 had no intentions of keeping even at the time they swore the oath, because just weeks later they voted to not even hear witnesses or see evidence against Trump.

Swearing falsely in the name of God is a form of blasphemy, and since nearly all if not absolutely all of these GOP Senators claim to profess Trinitarian Christianity, they believe that God includes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, so they blasphemed the Holy Ghost which Jesus Christ Himself said would not be forgiven, in this world or in the world to come. His words, in red ink.

Mugato: Let's set up a scoreboard for the number of commandments and seven deadly sins each candidate has broken.

Actually let's not bother.
And Beatitudes (100% red ink in a Red Letter Edition) that each has been the 180° diametric opposite of.


I've finally decided that your farkie is "Detailed explanations of why Republicans are anti-Christian." As someone who used to be Christian, who steeped himself in Christian doctrine, and who still holds a torch for Christianity long after I professed to stop actually believing in Christ, I always find your posts fascinating.

/its been more than 42 months since the inauguration and Trump's still in office, therefore he isn't the Beast
 
2020-08-06 12:50:12 AM  

Mithiwithi: COMALite J: The main way in Christianity to guarantee the loss of your soul even if you were "saved" is to Blaspheme the Holy Ghost.

You know, like 51 of the 53 Republican Senators did when they raised their right hands to the square with fingers pointed towards His Heavenly Throne, and swore, "so help me, God!" to render impartial justice ― an oath that those 51 had no intentions of keeping even at the time they swore the oath, because just weeks later they voted to not even hear witnesses or see evidence against Trump.

Swearing falsely in the name of God is a form of blasphemy, and since nearly all if not absolutely all of these GOP Senators claim to profess Trinitarian Christianity, they believe that God includes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, so they blasphemed the Holy Ghost which Jesus Christ Himself said would not be forgiven, in this world or in the world to come. His words, in red ink.

Mugato: Let's set up a scoreboard for the number of commandments and seven deadly sins each candidate has broken.

Actually let's not bother.
And Beatitudes (100% red ink in a Red Letter Edition) that each has been the 180° diametric opposite of.

I've finally decided that your farkie is "Detailed explanations of why Republicans are anti-Christian." As someone who used to be Christian, who steeped himself in Christian doctrine, and who still holds a torch for Christianity long after I professed to stop actually believing in Christ, I always find your posts fascinating.

/its been more than 42 months since the inauguration and Trump's still in office, therefore he isn't the Beast


To put it another way, I'm a "Lieutenant Scheisskopf's Wife" atheist. The God I don't believe in is the kind, just God that is Jesus of Nazareth, and I am far more hostile to those who claim to follow Him but reject all of His teachings than I am to mere evil people who claim no greater authority than "might is right".
 
2020-08-06 3:34:25 AM  

Mithiwithi: COMALite J: The main way in Christianity to guarantee the loss of your soul even if you were "saved" is to Blaspheme the Holy Ghost.

You know, like 51 of the 53 Republican Senators did when they raised their right hands to the square with fingers pointed towards His Heavenly Throne, and swore, "so help me, God!" to render impartial justice ― an oath that those 51 had no intentions of keeping even at the time they swore the oath, because just weeks later they voted to not even hear witnesses or see evidence against Trump.

Swearing falsely in the name of God is a form of blasphemy, and since nearly all if not absolutely all of these GOP Senators claim to profess Trinitarian Christianity, they believe that God includes God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, so they blasphemed the Holy Ghost which Jesus Christ Himself said would not be forgiven, in this world or in the world to come. His words, in red ink.

Mugato: Let's set up a scoreboard for the number of commandments and seven deadly sins each candidate has broken.

Actually let's not bother.
And Beatitudes (100% red ink in a Red Letter Edition) that each has been the 180° diametric opposite of.

I've finally decided that your farkie is "Detailed explanations of why Republicans are anti-Christian." As someone who used to be Christian, who steeped himself in Christian doctrine, and who still holds a torch for Christianity long after I professed to stop actually believing in Christ, I always find your posts fascinating.

/its been more than 42 months since the inauguration and Trump's still in office, therefore he isn't the Beast

If that's in reference to the prophecies of Bands (or even typical Dispensationalist-style End Times prophecies), they say that the 42 months refers to only the first half of the Beast's reign. 42 months is 3½ yerars. The Tribulation is a total of seven years, of which the first ½ (3½ years, aka "a time, two times, and half a time" in the KJV) is the Tribulation proper, and the second is the far worse Great Tribulation.

Most End Times prophecies say that the Tribulation begins not with the onset of the reign of the Beast / "the Antichrist" (no such character in Revelation and no "the Antichrist" in the KJV at all), nor with "the Rapture" (another non-Biblical doctrine ― the word is found zero times in the Bible), but with the treaty between the Beast and Israel. A treaty-like agreement between Israel and Trump was done about ¾ year into his Presidency when he recognized Jerusalem instead of Tel Aviv as the capital city and announced that we'd be moving our embassy there.

With that in mind, the 3½ year mark would be about the time of the election. My own speculation is that Trump loses both the popular vote and the Electoral College allocation, yet refuses to resign. As some articles linked in PolTab have speculated, the GOP challenges the elections in some close states and denies their Electors, which is seen (not Constitutionally, but with the majority of the Supreme Court on his side, who's to say nay?) that that would deny either candidate a majority in the Electoral College which would send the election to the House where Trump would almost certainly win since it's one vote per State, not per Congressperson.

This would fulfill the bit where one of the heads of the Beast is wounded unto death, yet is miraculously healed to the astonishment of all.

Under the prophecies of Bands, Trump is not the Beast per se. There are three Beasts, and Trump would be the Little Horn of the Great Beast with the Mouth that Speaketh Blasphemies, and/or the Tenth Horn/King of the Scarlet-Coloured Beast.

Before I explain further, read the link where I recount how I encountered and conversed online with "Bands," who claimed to be one of the Two Witnesses.
 
2020-08-06 3:44:10 AM  
The War of Northern Politeness will be legendary.  Canada moving in to help a failed state.
 
2020-08-06 6:06:40 AM  
Would the Beast be such an inept moron? Or is that the genius of it?
 
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