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(Bring Me the News)   US Senator Tina Smith (D-Munchies) has submitted a bill to legalize recreational marijuana nationally. Supporters of the issue say they haven't been following politics since PlutoTV started 24 hour classic Doctor Who   (bringmethenews.com) divider line
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2020-08-04 4:30:28 PM  

Subtonic: RussianPotato: Dems ain't gonna get it done.  They never legalized hemp.  Not in 7 decades.  Trump legalized hemp.

Trump legalized your FACE biatch!


Wouldn't that be a war crime?
 
2020-08-04 4:32:10 PM  

RussianPotato: Dems ain't gonna get it done.  They never legalized hemp.  Not in 7 decades.  Trump legalized hemp.


I guess Obama just jumped in his time machine and went back to 2014 to prove you wrong.
 
2020-08-04 4:33:23 PM  

Combustion: I just hate they can't take cards. Before I go get weed I have to actually find an Automated ATM Teller Machine and get money out like it's the 1990s.


Don't pot-related businesses have in-house ATMs?
 
2020-08-04 4:35:02 PM  

Znuh: Pot, is the only thing that helps with COVID. 

When I was in the throes of the rigors, edibles was the only thing that enabled me to somewhat sleep.

As the disease moves through you, you're left with levels of tired that are unimaginable. Not being able to lift yourself off the bed to go to the bathroom terrible. It then robs you of any rest whatsoever by giving you the absolute worst insomnia known to man.

Edibles helped. They helped a LOT. So much that I consider them essential to getting yourself through it, god forbid you come down with it.


That sounds absolutely miserable. I got the flu about a decade ago and it was painful and the tiredness was ridiculous; I just slept in the bathroom one afternoon as getting there took all my effort, but sleep happened with the flu. I think I slept like 18 hours a day for a week.

All this Covid is just the flu nonsense is also shiatty because most people equate the flu to a stomach bug or a 2-3 day respiratory virus and not the near debilitating effects of the actual flu that actually kills people. Get a flu shot every year.
 
2020-08-04 4:38:04 PM  
Cannabis legalization isn't even mentioned in the Democratic Platform, so you're dreaming.

/Medicare neither
 
2020-08-04 4:38:34 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: Jelly Bean Raider: Pats_Cloth_Coat: I expect the liquor industry to lobby furiously against this.

And Big Pharma

Big pharma would just buy the producers, add some analgesic & patent boom $5000.00/ dose


They would have to ban any new independent producers of just plain marijuana, or somehow claim that their patent on the "improved" version excludes others from selling just plain marijuana.  I am sure they are capable of both of these things.
 
2020-08-04 4:38:56 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Thankfully I've managed to dodge all that Dr. Who nonsense for decades now.


And that's why you're not JellyBabies4Bonnie.
 
2020-08-04 4:40:22 PM  

Gonz: Teambaylagoon: anything for a bump,

That's cocaine. This is about weed.

Different drug altogether.


Different drug
 
2020-08-04 4:41:05 PM  

jethroe: Cannabis legalization isn't even mentioned in the Democratic Platform, so you're dreaming.

/Medicare neither


Having a triple-digit IQ isn't in the Republican platform, so they must be against it.

/ability to reason neither
 
2020-08-04 4:44:43 PM  
I look forward to the furious defense of Democrats who vote against the bill.
 
2020-08-04 4:45:05 PM  

NihilismKat: Now I need to look into this Pluto TV thing. I have too many streaming services...


It's free. I've got an app on my phone and an app thing on my Roku. I hardly ever watch it, because I just never think about it.

But it's not bad for free entertainment.
 
2020-08-04 4:46:58 PM  

jethroe: Cannabis legalization isn't even mentioned in the Democratic Platform, so you're dreaming.

/Medicare neither


Nothing's mentioned in the Democratic Party platform.

Convention hasn't happened yet, that's when the platform gets approved.

Next time you think you're going to sound bright... don't.
 
2020-08-04 4:52:29 PM  
Pluto.tv is fantastic, it came on the firestick my wife bought online during the Thanksgiving sales last year. Besides Dr. Who, there are game shows, Star Trek TNG, MST3K/RiffTrax and a hundred other "channels" of shows and movies.

It kind of reminds me of having a big satellite dish back in the 80's-90's.
 
2020-08-04 4:57:24 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Nadie_AZ: The headline shows how little the submitter knows about how active cannabis legalization proponents have been.

/kicks back
//with indo
///and gin and juice

"Man, I gotta read the brochure!"
[Comes back up eating a burrito]


Hell's bells! I've been advocating legalization since the sixties. It was my generation that started the good fight for legalization. There is quite a history in the USA of political activity on this issue.
 
2020-08-04 5:03:31 PM  

eurotrader: Simply removing cannabis from being a schedule 1 drug with no medical value is not that hard.
President Biden can issue an executive order that directs the Attorney General to declassify marijuana as a controlled substance. It solves the majority of the issues. States can decide if it is legal in their state.The Cannabis industry could use traditional banking systems and not have to have huge amounts of cash on hand.


Yeah but Biden is old school. He probably saw the "marijuana makes you crazy, listen to jazz, and chase white women" movies in grade school, and never forgot it.

That's not to say I'm not supporting Biden. I'm 100. But I still think the old guard will continue to have reservations. And that's easy to do when you haven't done your own grocery shopping in years.

I had my reservations about Kamla Harris for a minute. She was just as hard on black drug offenders as her white peers, but again, "don't do the crime..." etc. Shiat was bad in L.A.for a while. And if she wasn't gonna do it, her white peers gladly would have.

But I'll tell you what. Kamla was 'bout dat life, and she ain't afraid to admit it. I don't think she'd have a problem with it, especially nowadays. Folks need financial and mental relief, and you can grow plants pretty cheap if you know how. You make it legal, there's no reason for it to be sold illegally. Regulate it like liquor, card to see if they're 21, and pray that parents keep a better eye on their kids, and you're set.

Kamla could/is/will make history. She's got the chops, and she's unafraid. She'd probably push to legalize it, but not until well into Joe's term. But yeah, we need to stop the bullshiat and get it over with. Kids with epilepsy benefit more from having legal weed than they do from legal alcohol, and drugs made in labs anyway.
 
2020-08-04 5:06:53 PM  

thehobbes: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: But my red rectangle will allow it only if it has reasonably been determined that the sun has burnt out.

A state where you can't buy NON-ALCOHOLIC BEER before noon on Sundays.

Why? Just...why?


Carrie Nation still rules this state.
 
2020-08-04 5:11:01 PM  

flondrix: Combustion: I just hate they can't take cards. Before I go get weed I have to actually find an Automated ATM Teller Machine and get money out like it's the 1990s.

Don't pot-related businesses have in-house ATMs?


At up to $3 just to acess your own money? That's half the cost of a pre roll in Colorado!

Naw baby, ATM at bank, then shop. My money's tight. I'll be damned if I pay them twice.
 
2020-08-04 5:15:16 PM  

BlackChickWhiteAccent: She was just as hard on black drug offenders as her white peers, but again, "don't do the crime..."


Kamala Harris throws an entire generation of young black men in jail for drug "crimes" that shouldn't even exist.  She literally laughs at the prospect of keeping an innocent black man in jail.

You:  lol, don't do the crime...
 
2020-08-04 5:25:38 PM  

flondrix: Cornelis de Gyselaer: Jelly Bean Raider: Pats_Cloth_Coat: I expect the liquor industry to lobby furiously against this.

And Big Pharma

Big pharma would just buy the producers, add some analgesic & patent boom $5000.00/ dose

They would have to ban any new independent producers of just plain marijuana, or somehow claim that their patent on the "improved" version excludes others from selling just plain marijuana.  I am sure they are capable of both of these things.


You need a license to grow tobacco. And there is a cap on the number of licenses
 
2020-08-04 5:29:42 PM  

pirviii: Pluto.tv is fantastic, it came on the firestick my wife bought online during the Thanksgiving sales last year. Besides Dr. Who, there are game shows, Star Trek TNG, MST3K/RiffTrax and a hundred other "channels" of shows and movies.

It kind of reminds me of having a big satellite dish back in the 80's-90's.


Another beauty of it is if I catch a movie halfway through and want to see it from the beginning I can bounce from TV to movies on demand and find it there.
 
2020-08-04 5:39:56 PM  
She's probably worried about the effects of the Legal Marijuana Now and the Grassroots-Legalize Cannabis Party candidates, both of whom are running (a friend of mine who's in the MN House of Representatives told me there's no real difference between the parties.)

For background, in 2018:

LNM:
3.7% in MN-Sen-Special
2.55% in MN-Sen
5.28% in MN-Auditor

GLCP:
5.71% in MN-AG (granted this might've been a bit of protest voting against Ellison who had some domestic abuse problems.
2.65% in MN-Gov

And of course several Republicans are hoping to use these parties as a vehicle to keep or take some legislature seats.
 
2020-08-04 6:25:51 PM  
In before someone claims that you can treat Covid-19 by using weed---oh no I'm not, either.

Urmuf Hamer: Tragic in the damage to human life by "law enforcement" and incarceration to wit, affecting us all.


Affecting us all?  Really?  Would you mind telling us how many people are in prison in the US after being convicted of weed offenses?

Urmuf Hamer: , social and tax consequences of lucrative black markets which corruptly subvert society,


Do you have any evidence that legalizing will cause those black markets to contract?  Because I haven't seen any so far.

Urmuf Hamer: Regulation, taxation, education and infrastructure and empowered, intelligent, and moderated oversight create healthy society/government.


In which legal state has this happened?

Purple_Urkle: Okay but some children need it for anti seizure medication.

Please don't criminalize that.


Perfectly legal.  At the federal level.  Because it got FDA approval.  The drug is called Sativex.
 
2020-08-04 7:31:11 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: You need a license to grow tobacco. And there is a cap on the number of licenses


Not exactly true.  You can buy tobacco seeds from many different seed catalogs and grow your own, if you want to.
 
2020-08-04 7:36:03 PM  

knobmaker: Pats_Cloth_Coat: You need a license to grow tobacco. And there is a cap on the number of licenses

Not exactly true.  You can buy tobacco seeds from many different seed catalogs and grow your own, if you want to.


not to sell
 
2020-08-04 8:28:51 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: My Senator yay

No she isn't Franken but is alright nevertheless


I agree on all points. We better not end up trading Franken for Lewis. I was glad Craig moved him out of Congress, but was hoping he was done trying to hate us to death.
 
2020-08-04 8:48:23 PM  

Anenu: Recession is the best time to legalize it, new industry with new jobs and new tax revenue to help pull the economy up. I'm just hoping we have enough rich people on board this time for it to actually happen.


The pot magnates from states that legalized it *are* the rich now. Hell, even former speaker drunky John Boner is in on the pot sales and has become a major pot advocate. Here's hoping there's enough political clout now. The Democrats as a whole (and a surprising amount of Republicans) actually back legalization. McConnell is holding it up. Convince him it'll help his re-election and he's in
 
2020-08-04 8:49:51 PM  

Teambaylagoon: This's prob being saved for (one of) Trump's October Surprises... anything for a bump,


I can live with it. He can't win, so toking up on election night as the results come in will be a hoot
 
2020-08-04 8:50:41 PM  

RussianPotato: Dems ain't gonna get it done.  They never legalized hemp.  Not in 7 decades.  Trump legalized hemp.


Actually Obama and McConnell legalized hemp, it just went into effect in 2017(?)
 
2020-08-04 8:55:37 PM  

imapirate: So in some states, you can go to prison for having this stuff. In Oregon, they'll deliver it to your house. That's messed up.


We don't have legal pot delivery in MA (with some exceptions for medical patients), but if I ever won the lottery, I would absolutely open the first Pot Bar, where everybody forgets your name
 
2020-08-04 9:22:34 PM  

somedude210: RussianPotato: Dems ain't gonna get it done.  They never legalized hemp.  Not in 7 decades.  Trump legalized hemp.

Actually Obama and McConnell legalized hemp, it just went into effect in 2017(?)


2014. And that was just the "pilot" program.
 
2020-08-04 9:34:57 PM  

Skeleton Man: somedude210: RussianPotato: Dems ain't gonna get it done.  They never legalized hemp.  Not in 7 decades.  Trump legalized hemp.

Actually Obama and McConnell legalized hemp, it just went into effect in 2017(?)

2014. And that was just the "pilot" program.


My bad. This year has felt like a century. My sense of time is warped
 
2020-08-04 9:52:15 PM  

somedude210: Skeleton Man: somedude210: RussianPotato: Dems ain't gonna get it done.  They never legalized hemp.  Not in 7 decades.  Trump legalized hemp.

Actually Obama and McConnell legalized hemp, it just went into effect in 2017(?)

2014. And that was just the "pilot" program.

My bad. This year has felt like a century. My sense of time is warped


Don't worry, mine is too.

I had just woken up when I wrote my original post, should have elaborated more. The pilot program was 2014, the full legalization was part of the 2018 Farm Bill. And RussianPotato was right, McConnell was instrumental to the whole thing and it never would have happened without him. So there's at least one redeemable thing about him.

I've been smoking hemp every day for almost two years. Shiat's fantastic. Knocked 5.5 years of panic attacks and crippling anxiety completely out of my life within a few minutes of the first hit and it never came back.
 
2020-08-05 12:03:29 AM  

tirob: In before someone claims that you can treat Covid-19 by using weed---oh no I'm not, either.

Urmuf Hamer: Tragic in the damage to human life by "law enforcement" and incarceration to wit, affecting us all.

Affecting us all?  Really?  Would you mind telling us how many people are in prison in the US after being convicted of weed offenses?

Urmuf Hamer: , social and tax consequences of lucrative black markets which corruptly subvert society,

Do you have any evidence that legalizing will cause those black markets to contract?  Because I haven't seen any so far.

Urmuf Hamer: Regulation, taxation, education and infrastructure and empowered, intelligent, and moderated oversight create healthy society/government.

In which legal state has this happened?

Purple_Urkle: Okay but some children need it for anti seizure medication.

Please don't criminalize that.

Perfectly legal.  At the federal level.  Because it got FDA approval.  The drug is called Sativex.


What if people like Charlotte's Web?
 
2020-08-05 5:23:31 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Purple_Urkle: Okay but some children need it for anti seizure medication.

Please don't criminalize that.

Perfectly legal. At the federal level. Because it got FDA approval. The drug is called Sativex.

What if people like Charlotte's Web?


Seems to be legal to trade in, according to the FDA, under some circumstances.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/publi​c​-health-focus/fda-regulation-cannabis-​and-cannabis-derived-products-includin​g-cannabidiol-cbd

"8.Is it legal for me to sell CBD products?

A. It depends, among other things, on the intended use of the product and how it is labeled and marketed."

As a practical matter, CBD is available at retail pretty much everywhere around here (mid-Atlantic states).
 
2020-08-05 7:09:10 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Okay but some children need it for anti seizure medication.

Please don't criminalize that.


A family member uses CBD for seizures. It doesn't prevent the seizures, but it reduces the recovery time from several days down to several hours. It has enabled her to go back to college.
I can think of about 100 things that are bigger problems than recreational use of cannabis. Just legalize it and move on to important issues. Expunge criminal records for minor possession.
 
2020-08-05 7:50:49 AM  

tirob: Purple_Urkle: Purple_Urkle: Okay but some children need it for anti seizure medication.

Please don't criminalize that.

Perfectly legal. At the federal level. Because it got FDA approval. The drug is called Sativex.

What if people like Charlotte's Web?

Seems to be legal to trade in, according to the FDA, under some circumstances.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public​-health-focus/fda-regulation-cannabis-​and-cannabis-derived-products-includin​g-cannabidiol-cbd

"8.Is it legal for me to sell CBD products?

A. It depends, among other things, on the intended use of the product and how it is labeled and marketed."

As a practical matter, CBD is available at retail pretty much everywhere around here (mid-Atlantic states).


I'm told that CBD and Charlotte's Webb are not the same thing.  THC is the compound that gets people high, CBD is the compound that can be obtained even in places that have not legalized medical marijuana, but they are not the only substances involved.
 
2020-08-05 8:20:50 AM  
flondrix:

I'm told that CBD and Charlotte's Webb are not the same thing.  THC is the compound that gets people high, CBD is the compound that can be obtained even in places that have not legalized medical marijuana, but they are not the only substances involved.

They're not.  The latter has a tiny bit of THC in it; probably a de minimis amount for the purposes of law/FDA enforcement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlot​t​e's_Web_(cannabis)

"In September 2014, the Stanleys announced that they would ensure that the product consistently contained less than 0.3% THC.[5]"
 
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