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2020-08-04 1:23:29 PM  
'I Was Asked If I Stole My Car',  Racist cops think that everything in a black person's possession is stolen.
 
2020-08-04 1:29:00 PM  
"One time, I was told not to look at the officer in the eyes when I spoke to him," she says. "I was told I needed to look down at the ground."

I'd say take a minute to stare at his badge so you can memorize name and number, then go back to staring him in the eye.
 
2020-08-04 2:16:07 PM  
Diplomatic papers get you waved through quick i most countries. Not the shiathole ones though.
 
2020-08-04 7:32:38 PM  
One time i was doing some work in NYC and Vermont, and decided to see my parents outside of Boston. Took the train from NYC there and borrowed the step dad's truck. Drove to Vermont, did my work and realized there wasn't shiat to do or anywhere good to eat where I was... and Montreal was only a 90 min drive from me. And I had my passport card.

So I made the drive to Vermont. Now. I had NOT considered how bananas my story sounded until I told the Canadian border guy.

"Yeah, I'm driving to Montreal for dinner. No, I don't know where...haven't decided yet. Any recommendations?  Yes, I live in California. But I was working in NYC and stopped in MA and borrowed a truck to go to Vermont and yes, the truck is registered to someone in MA with a VERY different name. Sure thing... which side would you like me to pull over to?"

I spent an hour waiting there while they poked and prodded and sniffed the truck. By the time I got to Montreal I wasn't even that hungry. And people in that city are f-ing dumb. The drivers and pedestrians are just... dumb and bad at everything.

On the way back I just showed the US guy my card and he waved at me without looking.
 
2020-08-04 8:43:07 PM  
It's not news, it's Fark

/welcome
 
2020-08-04 8:44:07 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: One time i was doing some work in NYC and Vermont, and decided to see my parents outside of Boston. Took the train from NYC there and borrowed the step dad's truck. Drove to Vermont, did my work and realized there wasn't shiat to do or anywhere good to eat where I was... and Montreal was only a 90 min drive from me. And I had my passport card.

So I made the drive to Vermont. Now. I had NOT considered how bananas my story sounded until I told the Canadian border guy.

"Yeah, I'm driving to Montreal for dinner. No, I don't know where...haven't decided yet. Any recommendations?  Yes, I live in California. But I was working in NYC and stopped in MA and borrowed a truck to go to Vermont and yes, the truck is registered to someone in MA with a VERY different name. Sure thing... which side would you like me to pull over to?"

I spent an hour waiting there while they poked and prodded and sniffed the truck. By the time I got to Montreal I wasn't even that hungry. And people in that city are f-ing dumb. The drivers and pedestrians are just... dumb and bad at everything.

On the way back I just showed the US guy my card and he waved at me without looking.


You sound white.
 
2020-08-04 8:46:44 PM  
The response from the CBP.

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2020-08-04 8:48:40 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: I spent an hour waiting there while they poked and prodded and sniffed the truck. By the time I got to Montreal I wasn't even that hungry. And people in that city are f-ing dumb. The drivers and pedestrians are just... dumb and bad at everything.


You sound Anglophone.
 
2020-08-04 8:51:13 PM  
Don't look him in the eyes? Officer Frank Booth?
 
2020-08-04 8:54:03 PM  
I'd have collected that agent's name every bleeping time, and if there was a pattern of the same guy doing it repeatedly, pass it up the chain of the State Department as well as contacting whoever is regional boss of the border patrol.  Call his ass out on it too.

"Agent Smith.  This is the fifth time you have stopped me and questioned my paperwork.  I should have thought this would stop being a problem for you after a few times.  Shall we discuss this with your management or should I just take it up with my superiors in the State Department?  Because THIS shiat ENDS HERE."

And oh hell no, that "don't look me in the eyes" would NOT fly with me.
 
2020-08-04 8:55:29 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: One time i was doing some work in NYC and Vermont, and decided to see my parents outside of Boston. Took the train from NYC there and borrowed the step dad's truck. Drove to Vermont, did my work and realized there wasn't shiat to do or anywhere good to eat where I was... and Montreal was only a 90 min drive from me. And I had my passport card.

So I made the drive to Vermont. Now. I had NOT considered how bananas my story sounded until I told the Canadian border guy.

"Yeah, I'm driving to Montreal for dinner. No, I don't know where...haven't decided yet. Any recommendations?  Yes, I live in California. But I was working in NYC and stopped in MA and borrowed a truck to go to Vermont and yes, the truck is registered to someone in MA with a VERY different name. Sure thing... which side would you like me to pull over to?"

I spent an hour waiting there while they poked and prodded and sniffed the truck. By the time I got to Montreal I wasn't even that hungry. And people in that city are f-ing dumb. The drivers and pedestrians are just... dumb and bad at everything.

On the way back I just showed the US guy my card and he waved at me without looking.


Had the opposite experience CSB incoming,

me and 3 friends decided to drive from Missouri to Canada for lunch (hey it was college). The canadians were pretty cool about the whole thing. I mean sure they searched the car, but we were sitting right there and they were joking with us the whole time. Making fun of the Blues, asking us if we had any alcohol before informing us it was ok if we did. The first thing they did was to shake out a blanket in the trunk and give it to us. All in all as pleasant as a search could be and the whole thing seemed like "look your story is dumb as hell so we kinda have to search your car".

Coming back into the states though. we were individually screened, searched and questioned. The car was taken to a separate garage for a thorough search. The whole thing was pretty nerve wracking. Basically we were treated as if we were criminals petitioning to be allowed to go back home.
 
2020-08-04 9:04:06 PM  
CSB? Last summer I was riding with my friend on the southern end of the chart, approaching the Holland tunnel entering Manhattan. The car with NY plates is a noticeable type, don't know if that made a difference. We were held up and demanded to give driver licenses and vehicle registration. And we were not told why, even though my friend has close family in the NY law departments, he said just cooperate calmly. My friend is a 55 year, third generation native of Brooklyn. He said he'd never ever heard of this happening. We asked around why this came up and his legal answers were they started to hear more about this lately, yet weren't sure why. The most likely answer: PA was looking for stolen cars. Interesting how they chose the selection process though.
 
2020-08-04 9:21:02 PM  
1. People are racist.
2. People with authority moreso.
3. My uncle, a Chaldean refugee and now USC , gets secondaried 100% of his crossings into and back from Canada. I'm sure being named Waleed has nothing to do with that...
4. I've also gotten asked all sorts of ridiculous questions at border crossings, as well as the interior checkpoints I've gone through. I've had my civic searched multiple times.

Not sure what my point is here, but of all places to draw conclusions from, border checkpoints probably aren't it. They even do a thing where, to combat corruption and fight biases, their computer will tell them, "secondary the next silver sedan" or "the next vehicle with three visible occupants".
 
2020-08-04 9:23:31 PM  
I don't get it. Why can't these black people just buy white privilege? It's free after all. Just don't try to steal it, that's a knee on the neck you bunch of thieves.

/this is satire
//I feel a satire label is necessary in the Trump Era sadly because of how batshiat crazy reality has gotten.
 
2020-08-04 9:25:35 PM  
It's really going to blow their minds when they find out about all the White Spanish-descended rich people in Mexico.
 
2020-08-04 9:27:51 PM  
As a white US citizen who used to travel internationally a lot, I can tell you with complete certainty that US Customs and Border Patrol are the biggest assholes internationally. I've watched them fark with so many people, including me. I've had agents in other countries go out of their way several times to be helpful and friendly. Every time I leave the country, I dread the border crossing home.

If I wasn't white, I know it would be worse. A lot worse.
 
2020-08-04 9:29:25 PM  

keldaria: I don't get it. Why can't these black people just buy white privilege? It's free after all. Just don't try to steal it, that's a knee on the neck you bunch of thieves.

/this is satire
//I feel a satire label is necessary in the Trump Era sadly because of how batshiat crazy reality has gotten.


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2020-08-04 9:32:15 PM  
FTA:

"A State Department spokesperson who did not want to be named tells NPR that the department is taking Spears' allegations seriously, and is in talks with the CBP to "improve the experience" of diplomats at U.S. borders."

Screw that. Improve the experience for *everybody*.
 
2020-08-04 9:35:07 PM  

JoshuaShrubbery: FTA:

"A State Department spokesperson who did not want to be named tells NPR that the department is taking Spears' allegations seriously, and is in talks with the CBP to "improve the experience" of diplomats at U.S. borders."

Screw that. Improve the experience for *everybody*.


Also fark diplomats. Provided information isn't being searched, I see no reason why belongings cannot be searched for physical contraband.
 
2020-08-04 9:41:09 PM  

notgonnatellu: CSB? Last summer I was riding with my friend on the southern end of the chart, approaching the Holland tunnel entering Manhattan. The car with NY plates is a noticeable type, don't know if that made a difference. We were held up and demanded to give driver licenses and vehicle registration. And we were not told why, even though my friend has close family in the NY law departments, he said just cooperate calmly. My friend is a 55 year, third generation native of Brooklyn. He said he'd never ever heard of this happening. We asked around why this came up and his legal answers were they started to hear more about this lately, yet weren't sure why. The most likely answer: PA was looking for stolen cars. Interesting how they chose the selection process though.


At first I was thinking you meant PA as in Pennsylvania and it brought back the memories of the old PA signs on the NJ border that would say "Welcome to America" and I wondered if PA had annexed North Jersey recently.

But then I realized you meant Port Authority. Less fun.
 
2020-08-04 9:42:19 PM  
Hmmmm... Customs and Border Patrol is an active enemy of the Department of State? I'm pretty sure there's a clear hierarchy of which one is more important and it's not CBP. Also, harrassing your own country's diplomats almost certainly is really bad, no matter how you look at it. Borderline treasonous, really.

I think a lot of these assholes are due for a firing.

Also, on cops and black people in cars:
Miles Davis on Getting Stopped By The Police | The Dick Cavett Show
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2020-08-04 10:03:12 PM  

olorin604: Coming back into the states though. we were individually screened, searched and questioned. The car was taken to a separate garage for a thorough search. The whole thing was pretty nerve wracking. Basically we were treated as if we were criminals petitioning to be allowed to go back home.


I got to sit inside the Canadian Border station thing. Basically felt like a DMV except every so often someone would walk by and ask if I was for real. I guess they don't get a lot of people coming from Williston via MA via NYC via CA in a MA vehicle. I'm sure I got ran through every Canuck watchlist and DB.

One guy seemed cool, so I asked him if the syrup mafia was actually a real thing. He laughed and explained it.

For a second I had a flash of fear cross my mind... like what *if* my step dad accidentally left a prescription or a roach. Wait... does he smoke weed? Would he leave it in his truck? Just irrational thoughts goign through my head.
 
2020-08-04 10:07:05 PM  

thealgorerhythm: As a white US citizen who used to travel internationally a lot, I can tell you with complete certainty that US Customs and Border Patrol are the biggest assholes internationally. I've watched them fark with so many people, including me. I've had agents in other countries go out of their way several times to be helpful and friendly. Every time I leave the country, I dread the border crossing home.

If I wasn't white, I know it would be worse. A lot worse.


One time I was coming back from Asia. Maybe Hong Kong or Singapore?

Well, I got the border asshole with an attitude and he started giving me shiat. Questioning why I went to where I went and etc. I just got off a 14hr flight and was in no mood. I told him... "you can't stop me from entering my country. Search my stuff, do whatever, but I don't feel like explaining my business to you."  He let me through. It was his power moment, but he really didn't want to go through all the hassle of actually wasting my day.
 
2020-08-05 12:12:20 AM  
The word black is capitalized throughout the article.  Is that what we're doing now?  It really stood out when they wrote about Black and brown foreign service members.
 
2020-08-05 12:21:49 AM  

thealgorerhythm: As a white US citizen who used to travel internationally a lot, I can tell you with complete certainty that US Customs and Border Patrol are the biggest assholes internationally. I've watched them fark with so many people, including me. I've had agents in other countries go out of their way several times to be helpful and friendly. Every time I leave the country, I dread the border crossing home.

If I wasn't white, I know it would be worse. A lot worse.


CBP is an out of control fascist agency. Full stop. They take themselves WAY too seriously. I consider them on the level of mall cops...maybe somewhat necessary, but mostly a bunch of uneducated assholes with way too much authority. Something is deeply wrong with a country that treats its own citizens worse at the borders than most other places treat foreigners. I hate to even think about how CBP must behave towards non-white non-citizens.

Next non-fascist President should outright dismantle the agency and reorganize its functions under totally new leadership. They need to be forced to lighten up. We benefit more from having friendly borders than we benefit from the existence of CBP.
 
2020-08-05 3:43:17 AM  

thealgorerhythm: keldaria: I don't get it. Why can't these black people just buy white privilege? It's free after all. Just don't try to steal it, that's a knee on the neck you bunch of thieves.

/this is satire
//I feel a satire label is necessary in the Trump Era sadly because of how batshiat crazy reality has gotten.

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Nah, Trump didn't kill Cain. His own stupidity did him in.
 
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