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2020-08-04 1:15:06 PM  
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2020-08-04 2:50:13 PM  
So is this 🤣

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2020-08-04 2:52:12 PM  
I've got pretty severe asthma and a lot of lung scarring from repeated bouts with pneumonia.  I have a hard time breathing on any given day.  Add a mask and I can see my o2 level drop. Yes, I do carry a pulseox meter with me everywhere I go.

So for people that are not compromised, that's probably accurate. For those of us that are on the road to emphysema , not so much.

/I don't leave the house any more
// except for medical appointments
/// I wear the damn mask, even though I get a little lightheaded
 
2020-08-04 2:57:06 PM  
If water boarding is harmless, surely one little mask can't hurt.
 
2020-08-04 3:32:20 PM  
Wonder how they survive the winter?
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And for my Brother-in-law...
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2020-08-04 4:32:16 PM  
Here's my issue with all of these response videos - it doesn't address length of time. At least 1 study was done way pre-pandemic related to oxygen saturation that found surgeons absolutely did have pulseox rates go down after an hour in surgical masks, though I don't think they did control groups for surgeons wearing them NOT in surgery or after an hour in similar physical environments. I believe the average decrease was about 4 percentage points, going from an average of 96% to 92% after an hour in a true surgical mask (not the level 1 general use mask most of us would have access to).

While these videos are absolutely applicable for the "mask up to go pay for my gas" type scenarios, it isn't applicable to people who wear them all day while moving around like teachers, factory workers, etc. The closest I can find is someone that strapped a pulse oximeter on while masked up for a day at a theme park in 90 degree heat while wearing a mixture of cloth masks, disposable medical-style masks, a non-medical N95 respirator, and a gaiter, and found their pulse ox went down about 2 percentage points from their at-home readings (but again, did not control for similar activity unmasked).

Masks still important? Yep. Should you wear them any time you're remotely around others? Sure should. But a 1-5 minute vid of someone sitting on a chair doesn't actually make the point these docs think they're making.
 
2020-08-04 4:46:58 PM  
Can we stop pretending that anti-maskers will be swayed by evidence, experiment, example, demonstration, or statistics?

You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
 
2020-08-04 5:00:10 PM  
O2 levels aren't the same as comfort. I hate wearing a mask. They're hot, humid, and yeah I feel like it affects my O2 levels.  I wear them in public, because I'm not a complete moron, but I hate every second of it. Better a mask than C19. That shiat's terrifying.
 
2020-08-04 5:51:39 PM  

foo monkey: O2 levels aren't the same as comfort. I hate wearing a mask. They're hot, humid, and yeah I feel like it affects my O2 levels.  I wear them in public, because I'm not a complete moron, but I hate every second of it. Better a mask than C19. That shiat's terrifying.


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