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(Washington Post)   Senate candidate John James (R-MI): "Back in my Army Ranger Captain days..." Fort Bragg: You might be a West Point graduate, but you're no Ranger   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-08-04 9:49:08 AM  
Claiming to be a Ranger when you are only "Ranger qualified" is almost, but not quite, as bad as falsely claiming to be a soldier in the marine core when you never served in the marines, or claiming to be a navel aviator when you never flew for the Navy. Some people just have no shame.
 
2020-08-04 9:56:38 AM  
They are playing on the fact that 99.9% of people don't know the difference between tab and scroll.

Ranger Tab means you went to Ranger School for, I think about 45 days of mostly pure hell. It is not easy and many wash out. I'm pretty sure I could not have done it.

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Ranger Regiment means you were assigned to one of the three Ranger Battalions after going through a very rigorous selection process that is boot camp on steroids and more. You CAN be in Ranger Regiment, initially without getting a Ranger Tab, but it better be because you are being deployed or doing something else. And, when you are done with that, you had better get your ass to a class and get that tab.

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This guy, James, has been such a goddamn toolbox that I'm not shocked he's trying to play this card. But, they are two totally different things.
 
2020-08-04 10:07:34 AM  
60+ days... my error. I correct myself because I've heard those last days are the worst.
 
2020-08-04 10:27:18 AM  
Back when I was in the Core we would have beat a guy like this silly.

/Semper Fudge!
 
2020-08-04 11:02:26 AM  
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2020-08-04 12:55:25 PM  
Seems a bit like quibbling. To the average schmo, both can wear a thingy that says Ranger. This will mean little to most voters.

I suppose I could see a parallel in the Air Force where people graduate from pilot training. They are pilots, earned the rating, and wear the wings. And on the day of graduation they are qualified to fly zero of the Air Force's aircraft. First must come aircraft specific training and being brought up to speed at your unit to get you mission qualified. Then you can brag you're a fighter pilot but right out of pilot training? No. But you can still claim to be a pilot.
 
2020-08-04 1:31:51 PM  

NewportBarGuy: 60+ days... my error. I correct myself because I've heard those last days are the worst.


And that's without recycles.
 
2020-08-04 1:46:43 PM  
The party that cannot tell the truth.
 
2020-08-04 1:47:15 PM  
It's the difference between being a pilot and being an F16 combat pilot.
 
2020-08-04 1:47:35 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Back when I was in the Core we would have beat a guy like this silly.

/Semper Fudge!


To be fair he was never Convincing.
 
2020-08-04 1:47:41 PM  
He's getting his ass kicked and is trying to switch gears. He was all pro Trump until the virus and BLM. No he's playing the last card he has left and it's not going to be enough
 
2020-08-04 1:48:05 PM  
I knew a guy, bike club, VA, paintball
"Rangerrangerrangerranger"
Yeah, he wasn't.

Lots of them.
 
2020-08-04 1:48:09 PM  
Ranger or not, what's his stance on Russian bounties on American soldiers?
 
2020-08-04 1:48:17 PM  
Stolen valor
 
2020-08-04 1:48:45 PM  
They just assume that because THEY don't know these things that WE don't know these things.

Believe it or not a lot of us vets actually know what we're talking about, you friggin schlubs.
 
2020-08-04 1:48:46 PM  
This guy sucks.  I voted against him in 2018 and I'll vote against him in 2020.
 
2020-08-04 1:48:50 PM  

NewportBarGuy: 60+ days... my error. I correct myself because I've heard those last days are the worst.


Yeah, our Ranger buddy still talks about trading for the lemon bars to roll in coffee grounds to keep going on watch.
 
2020-08-04 1:49:45 PM  
It's like how Rand Paul is a board-certified doctor by a board that his dad made up.
 
2020-08-04 1:49:58 PM  
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2020-08-04 1:51:43 PM  
Tabbed vs Scrolled.
Major difference
 
2020-08-04 1:51:57 PM  
It reminds me of the time I shot Osama Bin Laden.
 
2020-08-04 1:52:02 PM  

edmo: Seems a bit like quibbling.



To the military, it's not.


It's like when Trump ordered Gallagher's rank restored.  And the Navy's response was, "We are restoring him to the rank of E-7."

Lots of people thought "Oh they caved."  Everyone Navy or Navy-adjacent knew exactly what that meant.  He had the rank, but he wasn't a chief.  And never would be again.
 
2020-08-04 1:53:28 PM  
Stolen valor.

IOKIYAR
 
2020-08-04 1:54:14 PM  

Lord Dimwit: It's like how Rand Paul is a board-certified doctor by a board that his dad made up.


Is he a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr Pepper is a doctor?
 
2020-08-04 1:54:45 PM  
I used to be a power ranger captain.
 
2020-08-04 1:55:02 PM  
As a Special Ranger Recon Seal, I find it highly offensive when people pretend to be part of army guy things that they weren't.
 
2020-08-04 1:55:19 PM  

Spaz-master: Tabbed vs Scrolled.
Major difference


I'm sure people in the military think the same thing.
 
2020-08-04 1:56:29 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Spaz-master: Tabbed vs Scrolled.
Major difference

I'm sure people in the military think the same thing.


We do.
 
2020-08-04 1:56:38 PM  
Hey now, I too remember my Ranger days very fondly. 

I was nine and it was my second ever character in D&D. 


/From the rules in Dragon magazine
 
2020-08-04 1:58:47 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Back when I was in the Core we would have beat a guy like this silly.

/Semper Fudge!


Back when I was in the Space Force he'd have been washing his hair with Pearl Jam instead of leave-in shampoo. We were very passive aggressive.
 
2020-08-04 1:59:12 PM  
This guy's achievement in itself is something to be proud of. Not everyone can claim to be Assistant to the Regional Manager 'Ranger-qualified' . But that couldn't be enough. No, he had to be the Assistant Regional Manager. Army Ranger Captain.

I was actually in the Navy. But because I got out for health reasons and did not finish my enlistment, I do not consider myself a veteran, even though I'm technically qualified due to the length of time I did in fact serve. I don't even mention it on resumes. I tried to serve my country, and they politely declined.

Be proud of what you have actually accomplished. If we lived in a real universe instead of this crappy knock-off, this would be enough to end his political career.

But because we live when we do, his fans will probably say 'He really wanted to be a Ranger and that's good enough for me.'
 
2020-08-04 1:59:40 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Lord Dimwit: It's like how Rand Paul is a board-certified doctor by a board that his dad made up.

Is he a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr Pepper is a doctor?


Dr. Pepper is a goddamn American hero. He'll never tell you because he's too humble, but he's a legit M.D., Ph.D. He's also the sweet one, so lay off.
 
2020-08-04 2:00:22 PM  
Just a reminder that this loser likes to hang out with other losers.
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2020-08-04 2:00:36 PM  
STOLEN VALOR
 
2020-08-04 2:00:53 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: NewportBarGuy: 60+ days... my error. I correct myself because I've heard those last days are the worst.

And that's without recycles.


Stop.
Please.
 
2020-08-04 2:03:25 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: Lord Dimwit: It's like how Rand Paul is a board-certified doctor by a board that his dad made up.

Is he a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr Pepper is a doctor?


He's a real doctor but he let his board certification lapse. Rather than renew it, he created a board with an open book take home test. Said board is not recognized by any medical or legal authority.

(I thought his dad had created the board but it was him.)
 
2020-08-04 2:03:29 PM  
I owned one of these once, do I get to add Ranger to my resume?

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2020-08-04 2:03:49 PM  
Continually seeing his commercials, the guy seems really slimy.
 
2020-08-04 2:04:17 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Claiming to be a Ranger when you are only "Ranger qualified" is almost, but not quite, as bad as falsely claiming to be a soldier in the marine core when you never served in the marines, or claiming to be a navel aviator when you never flew for the Navy. Some people just have no shame.


My son's friend would beat the everloving fark out of this guy, if he wasn't so disciplined. He actually was a ranger and would not be happy with this clown playing stupid word games.
 
2020-08-04 2:04:36 PM  
I've worked with hundreds of Rangers and Ranger-qualified people. My barracks were next to 2/75 (Second Ranger Batt) up in Ft. Lewis. Everyone in my platoon went to Ranger school and had the tab, but never called themselves Rangers because we were a leg unit.

Everyone, well at least everyone in the Army infantry, knows you don't call yourself a Ranger unless you're in one of the battalions. Living next to 2nd Ranger Batt., if one of them heard you were calling yourself a Ranger but not in the Regiment, you'd likely get your ass beat. If you had the tab, they'd still beat your ass, but you'd probably enjoy it. Then they'd have to go do a 20 mile march because the entire battalion has an alcohol problem (whoa, big surprise I know!), and whenever anyone in the battalion farks up with a DUI or drunk and disorderly charge, the entire unit goes for a looooong walk...

Just like you don't wear jump boots unless you're in an Airborne unit, or tanker boots unless you're armor.
 
2020-08-04 2:05:49 PM  
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2020-08-04 2:06:50 PM  

Znuh: STOLEN VALOR


FLY NAVY!
 
2020-08-04 2:06:51 PM  
I'm a Ranger as well. When I was in Cub Scouts I had a subscription to this magazine.
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2020-08-04 2:07:38 PM  
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People look at this from the wrong side. Yes it's stolen valor. But it also demeans people who serve in other ways. I had a big chip on my shoulder when I was in. I did some in country training, feeling pretty bad ass and swinging my dick at the bar I asked a guy why he looked so tired when I was in a firefight this morning and still had time to train.
He was in the same firefight then spent the rest of the day pouring concrete and laying down heavy aluminum sheets on a damaged runway while getting shot at. And I'm talking push ups.
Damn Seabees. Harder than coffin nails.

EVERYONES service is valuable. I looked down on other guys when I was young, because I was young.

Although this guy is a puppy compared to me. But at 39 you're not a kid anymore playing one up. Get some self-respect FFS.
 
2020-08-04 2:12:07 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Claiming to be a Ranger when you are only "Ranger qualified" is almost, but not quite, as bad as falsely claiming to be a soldier in the marine core when you never served in the marines, or claiming to be a navel aviator when you never flew for the Navy. Some people just have no shame.


Wife-like statement detected.
 
2020-08-04 2:12:19 PM  
How dare my opponent get an education!
 
2020-08-04 2:12:28 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: I'm an Egyptian!: NewportBarGuy: 60+ days... my error. I correct myself because I've heard those last days are the worst.

And that's without recycles.

Stop.
Please.


Triggering bad memories?
 
2020-08-04 2:12:42 PM  
Conservatives gave HRC a hard time about her recollections from Bosnia, but a conservative Republican gets to claim whatever he wants to and no one bats an eye.  It's like the Joker meme backwards.
 
2020-08-04 2:14:39 PM  
I'm in Michigan and I see this farking guy's ads. He really really plays up his army service. And he's a Trump supporter so he can GTFO with honors, Sir!
 
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