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(Denver Channel)   Actual lede: Police detained and handcuffed a Black mother and four children after mistaking their SUV for a stolen motorcycle from another state   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line
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2020-08-04 12:14:14 AM  
Jesus h Christ...
 
2020-08-04 12:29:07 AM  
Oh, but the system's not broken. It's just a few bad apples.
A few bad apples that handcuff children. No big deal.
 
2020-08-04 1:03:19 AM  
After officers realized the mistake, the family was uncuffed but more officers continued to arrive. Video shows over a dozen officers standing around the traumatized family.

If a criminally minded person had a police scanner it seems like a dozen or so officers responding to something would make for a handy time to do a cash withdrawal from a local banking establishment
 
2020-08-04 1:03:47 AM  
Two babies made to lie face down on hot pavement. Not something normal people do to child humans. I guess those farking kids didn't look farking human enough to those farking pigs.
 
2020-08-04 1:07:58 AM  
That sound you heard is the local taxpayers paying that family's 5- or low-6-figure settlement with no admission of wrongdoing on the part of the police, along with nearly every police department in America telling the mother that she has some beautiful children and it'd be a real shame if something happened to them so she better not complain about the police ever again or else.
 
2020-08-04 1:39:48 AM  
Bikers from outer space
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Stolen shamelessly, in the last few days, from some Farker
 
2020-08-04 2:08:06 AM  
Jesus Heironymous Christ.
 
2020-08-04 3:16:27 AM  
I was looking for some sort of meme for the Aurora PD about stepping on your own dicks but GIS = 🤢 I'll post this instead.

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2020-08-04 3:18:17 AM  
IDK it it's a "felony stop" (and treating every stolen vehicle hit as one is an over-inclusive error) you don't need to handcuff small kids and place them face down on hot asphalt at gun point while you are wearing body armor.

If you're that much of a pants pissing coward, maybe law enforcement isn't the right career choice for you.

If you can't recognize the difference between an SUV and a motorcycle, and an in-state plate from an out of state one and can't wait until you know WTF is going on and resolve the discrepancy between what you see and what comes back as a hit on your plate check before you go Rambo, law enforcement is definitely not the career for you.
 
2020-08-04 3:24:00 AM  
Fire them immediately.

Charge them with assault for touching the children.
 
2020-08-04 3:35:21 AM  

stan unusual: IDK it it's a "felony stop" (and treating every stolen vehicle hit as one is an over-inclusive error) you don't need to handcuff small kids and place them face down on hot asphalt at gun point while you are wearing body armor.

If you're that much of a pants pissing coward, maybe law enforcement isn't the right career choice for you.

If you can't recognize the difference between an SUV and a motorcycle, and an in-state plate from an out of state one and can't wait until you know WTF is going on and resolve the discrepancy between what you see and what comes back as a hit on your plate check before you go Rambo, law enforcement is definitely not the career for you.


We've all seen the movies where the kid is ignored and it turns out they're carrying a grenade. It kills his friend and sets off the whole movie. Ok, that is Kingsmen, but it's pretty realistic.
 
2020-08-04 3:40:28 AM  
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2020-08-04 5:51:14 AM  
LOL, this reminds of that time the police were on the lookout for a huge black dude in a little gray Honda, and so when they saw two old hispanic ladies in a blue pickup truck they immediately knew it was him and opened fire.

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2020-08-04 5:54:13 AM  
A lot went wrong in this incident. It started with a cop getting an LPR hit on the vehicle and failing to look past the "stolen vehicle" line at the top of the hit and see that it was a different state and vehicle description. The other responding cops assumed the first cop had done that. I would assume first cop was a rookie and got anxious about stopping a stolen vehicle.

Next, the cop should have noticed that the vehicle was occupied by children. That should have been a huge clue that maybe the vehicle wasn't stolen, even if the hit was for the right vehicle. Mistakes are made in vehicle entries, people mistakenly report their cars as stolen then fail to tell the cops when they remember they loaned it to cousin George, or victims find their own stolen cars and fail to tell the police (the last one is more common than you might think).

This was negligence. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the cops were able to apologize and the department can deal with the negligence of the first cop. It couldn't have happened at a worse time though.
 
2020-08-04 6:45:46 AM  

CruiserTwelve: A lot went wrong in this incident. It started with a cop getting an LPR hit on the vehicle and failing to look past the "stolen vehicle" line at the top of the hit and see that it was a different state and vehicle description. The other responding cops assumed the first cop had done that. I would assume first cop was a rookie and got anxious about stopping a stolen vehicle.

Next, the cop should have noticed that the vehicle was occupied by children. That should have been a huge clue that maybe the vehicle wasn't stolen, even if the hit was for the right vehicle. Mistakes are made in vehicle entries, people mistakenly report their cars as stolen then fail to tell the cops when they remember they loaned it to cousin George, or victims find their own stolen cars and fail to tell the police (the last one is more common than you might think).

This was negligence. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the cops were able to apologize and the department can deal with the negligence of the first cop. It couldn't have happened at a worse time though.


Lollerskates. Mistakenly reporting a vehicle as stolen. That's rich.
 
2020-08-04 6:49:39 AM  

question_dj: CruiserTwelve: A lot went wrong in this incident. It started with a cop getting an LPR hit on the vehicle and failing to look past the "stolen vehicle" line at the top of the hit and see that it was a different state and vehicle description. The other responding cops assumed the first cop had done that. I would assume first cop was a rookie and got anxious about stopping a stolen vehicle.

Next, the cop should have noticed that the vehicle was occupied by children. That should have been a huge clue that maybe the vehicle wasn't stolen, even if the hit was for the right vehicle. Mistakes are made in vehicle entries, people mistakenly report their cars as stolen then fail to tell the cops when they remember they loaned it to cousin George, or victims find their own stolen cars and fail to tell the police (the last one is more common than you might think).

This was negligence. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the cops were able to apologize and the department can deal with the negligence of the first cop. It couldn't have happened at a worse time though.

Lollerskates. Mistakenly reporting a vehicle as stolen. That's rich.


Gotta find some way to blame the victim or it's bad cop, no donut. I'm surprised nobody tried to plant some crack on the kids.
 
2020-08-04 7:19:03 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: LOL, this reminds of that time the police were on the lookout for a huge black dude in a little gray Honda, and so when they saw two old hispanic ladies in a blue pickup truck they immediately knew it was him and opened fire.

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I just saw this..

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2020-08-04 7:36:54 AM  
Surprised that the stupid pig cop bastards didn't shoot them all dead.  Farkin' pigs.  Farkin' hate the cops.
 
2020-08-04 7:37:09 AM  

question_dj: CruiserTwelve: A lot went wrong in this incident. It started with a cop getting an LPR hit on the vehicle and failing to look past the "stolen vehicle" line at the top of the hit and see that it was a different state and vehicle description. The other responding cops assumed the first cop had done that. I would assume first cop was a rookie and got anxious about stopping a stolen vehicle.

Next, the cop should have noticed that the vehicle was occupied by children. That should have been a huge clue that maybe the vehicle wasn't stolen, even if the hit was for the right vehicle. Mistakes are made in vehicle entries, people mistakenly report their cars as stolen then fail to tell the cops when they remember they loaned it to cousin George, or victims find their own stolen cars and fail to tell the police (the last one is more common than you might think).

This was negligence. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the cops were able to apologize and the department can deal with the negligence of the first cop. It couldn't have happened at a worse time though.

Lollerskates. Mistakenly reporting a vehicle as stolen. That's rich.


Yeah, it's its department, too.
 
2020-08-04 7:37:35 AM  
Oh FFS. Will you people farkING STOP WITH THIS farkING BULLshiat ALREADY???
 
2020-08-04 7:37:42 AM  
They DID fit the description

/s
 
2020-08-04 7:42:44 AM  
Maybe it's the city's name.   My first thought was Aurora, IL, which is every bit as bad.
 
2020-08-04 7:44:31 AM  
When I was a kid my Dad got pulled over during a family vacation.  The cop.was obviously looking for someone else because he was a little surprised to see a couple with a kid in the car.  He asked my Dad if he was speeding (yes, asked Dad).  Dad said maybe a little then he sent us on our way.
 
2020-08-04 7:45:40 AM  
Are there any police departments that in the past few weeks have gotten the rank and file together and said "officers, we really need to be a bit more aware of what we are doing"?
 
2020-08-04 7:46:35 AM  

pdxbarista: Oh, but the system's not broken. It's just a few bad apples.
A few bad apples that handcuff children. No big deal.


I understand that cops have a problem with identifying states because of the map shortage and such as...

But you'd think they would know the difference between a bike and a SUV.
 
2020-08-04 7:46:40 AM  
What the FARK is in the water in Aurora, CO??

//it's that shiatty Coors, isn't it?
 
2020-08-04 7:47:44 AM  

CruiserTwelve: A lot went wrong in this incident. It started with a cop getting an LPR hit on the vehicle and failing to look past the "stolen vehicle" line at the top of the hit and see that it was a different state and vehicle description. The other responding cops assumed the first cop had done that. I would assume first cop was a rookie and got anxious about stopping a stolen vehicle.

Next, the cop should have noticed that the vehicle was occupied by children. That should have been a huge clue that maybe the vehicle wasn't stolen, even if the hit was for the right vehicle. Mistakes are made in vehicle entries, people mistakenly report their cars as stolen then fail to tell the cops when they remember they loaned it to cousin George, or victims find their own stolen cars and fail to tell the police (the last one is more common than you might think).

This was negligence. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the cops were able to apologize and the department can deal with the negligence of the first cop. It couldn't have happened at a worse time though.


Yeah, I remember when I mistakenly handcuffed kids face down in hot asphalt.
 
2020-08-04 7:48:22 AM  

CruiserTwelve: A lot went wrong in this incident. It started with a cop getting an LPR hit on the vehicle and failing to look past the "stolen vehicle" line at the top of the hit and see that it was a different state and vehicle description. The other responding cops assumed the first cop had done that. I would assume first cop was a rookie and got anxious about stopping a stolen vehicle.

Next, the cop should have noticed that the vehicle was occupied by children. That should have been a huge clue that maybe the vehicle wasn't stolen, even if the hit was for the right vehicle. Mistakes are made in vehicle entries, people mistakenly report their cars as stolen then fail to tell the cops when they remember they loaned it to cousin George, or victims find their own stolen cars and fail to tell the police (the last one is more common than you might think).

This was negligence. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the cops were able to apologize and the department can deal with the negligence of the first cop. It couldn't have happened at a worse time though.


Couldn't have happened at a worse time = happens all the damn time

I'm sure the woman telling them the car belonged to her and that her paperwork was in order was met with prompt attention. All they had to do was check the registration like in every normal traffic stop.
 
2020-08-04 7:48:34 AM  

swankywanky: What the FARK is in the water in Aurora, CO??

//it's that shiatty Coors, isn't it?


It's not Aurora that's the problem in this case. It's American policing as a whole.
 
2020-08-04 7:50:25 AM  
And why do stolen vehicles require guns drawn ? Are car thieves prone to violence more so than other criminals ? I want to see the data on that
 
2020-08-04 7:52:27 AM  
How many cops (20?) does it take to screw in a light bulb? If my productivity was that bad it took 19 of my co-workers for me to do my job my boss would ensure that would be my last day on the payroll. Fair is fair... take that precinct's budget excess as they have nothing to do, obviously. Tell me again how systemic racism doesn't exist. I can't wait until something similar happens to a white family so the empathy is more easily advanced as that is the only way it seems to ever arise.
 
2020-08-04 7:52:43 AM  

kpaxoid: Are there any police departments that in the past few weeks have gotten the rank and file together and said "officers, we really need to be a bit more aware of what we are doing"?


This case came to mind: https://www.washingtonpost.com/​nation/​2020/07/13/florida-sergeant-threatened​-handcuffed-man/
 
2020-08-04 7:52:56 AM  
End qualified immunity for the bastards.  Let's stop taking their shiat.
 
2020-08-04 7:53:22 AM  

Alphax: Prank Call of Cthulhu: LOL, this reminds of that time the police were on the lookout for a huge black dude in a little gray Honda, and so when they saw two old hispanic ladies in a blue pickup truck they immediately knew it was him and opened fire.

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That's already done in America but the cops use their regular guns.
 
2020-08-04 7:53:49 AM  
Wow, can't tell the difference between a motorcycle and an SUV?

I'd say send them back to cop school but considering the fact that my kid can tell the difference and he's two...
 
2020-08-04 7:53:52 AM  
C students, the lot of them. And there's one in this thread copsplaining what could've happened.

No, little piggy, the issue is cops are too dumb to be trusted with the responsibility they've been given.
 
2020-08-04 7:54:41 AM  
"That makes me very mad, because I am not anti-police. I'm anti what happened yesterday, and that was ridiculous," Wurtz said

It happens every day in this country.  Property is far more important than human life here.
 
2020-08-04 7:55:44 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: LOL, this reminds of that time the police were on the lookout for a huge black dude in a little gray Honda, and so when they saw two old hispanic ladies in a blue pickup truck they immediately knew it was him and opened fire.

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You forget the 142 bullets fired and only 17 holes in a big blue target that is 6' wide by 5' tall.

From guys who have mandatory shooting practice.
 
2020-08-04 7:57:03 AM  

CruiserTwelve: A lot went wrong in this incident. It started with a cop getting an LPR hit on the vehicle and failing to look past the "stolen vehicle" line at the top of the hit and see that it was a different state and vehicle description. The other responding cops assumed the first cop had done that. I would assume first cop was a rookie and got anxious about stopping a stolen vehicle.

Next, the cop should have noticed that the vehicle was occupied by children. That should have been a huge clue that maybe the vehicle wasn't stolen, even if the hit was for the right vehicle. Mistakes are made in vehicle entries, people mistakenly report their cars as stolen then fail to tell the cops when they remember they loaned it to cousin George, or victims find their own stolen cars and fail to tell the police (the last one is more common than you might think).

This was negligence. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the cops were able to apologize and the department can deal with the negligence of the first cop. It couldn't have happened at a worse time though.


You used the word assume.  Never assume.

Because it makes an ASS out of U and ME!
 
2020-08-04 7:58:47 AM  

Stud Gerbil: Maybe it's the city's name.   My first thought was Aurora, IL, which is every bit as bad.


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2020-08-04 7:59:22 AM  

Flab: Prank Call of Cthulhu: LOL, this reminds of that time the police were on the lookout for a huge black dude in a little gray Honda, and so when they saw two old hispanic ladies in a blue pickup truck they immediately knew it was him and opened fire.

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You forget the 142 bullets fired and only 17 holes in a big blue target that is 6' wide by 5' tall.

From guys who have mandatory shooting practice.


And none of them got anything more that a sternly worded letter placed in their file for it.
 
2020-08-04 7:59:54 AM  

King Something: That sound you heard is the local taxpayers paying that family's 5- or low-6-figure settlement with no admission of wrongdoing on the part of the police, along with nearly every police department in America telling the mother that she has some beautiful children and it'd be a real shame if something happened to them so she better not complain about the police ever again or else.


Reminds of this Planet Money episode:  Bad Cops Are Expensive

Our way out of this problem might have as much to do with insurance as with protests.  Some police departments are uninsurable.  That's very costly for the community.
 
2020-08-04 8:04:59 AM  

kindms: And why do stolen vehicles require guns drawn ? Are car thieves prone to violence more so than other criminals ? I want to see the data on that


In America? Ya, they do. Carjacking is a felony.
 
2020-08-04 8:05:57 AM  
I think every settlement should come with the firing of the offenders and a guarantee to never hire them again.

You think you're going to keep your job after screwing up so hard in the private sector that your employer gets sued and pays a settlement? You wouldn't make it to the end of the shift, and you'd be very lucky if the company didn't sue you!
 
2020-08-04 8:06:32 AM  
Every time the protests have a moment for the rage to dip or burn off, there's a new story to reinvigorate them.
 
2020-08-04 8:11:43 AM  
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2020-08-04 8:12:01 AM  
Not counting the mother, the police just made four more lifetime enemies.  Good job.
 
2020-08-04 8:13:53 AM  
"It's not a motorcycle.  It's a chopper, baby."
 
2020-08-04 8:13:56 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: LOL, this reminds of that time the police were on the lookout for a huge black dude in a little gray Honda, and so when they saw two old hispanic ladies in a blue pickup truck they immediately knew it was him and opened fire.

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You can't corner the Former!  Wait, maybe you can.
 
2020-08-04 8:14:19 AM  

Rapmaster2000: King Something: That sound you heard is the local taxpayers paying that family's 5- or low-6-figure settlement with no admission of wrongdoing on the part of the police, along with nearly every police department in America telling the mother that she has some beautiful children and it'd be a real shame if something happened to them so she better not complain about the police ever again or else.

Reminds of this Planet Money episode:  Bad Cops Are Expensive

Our way out of this problem might have as much to do with insurance as with protests.  Some police departments are uninsurable.  That's very costly for the community.


Sheriff Joe's department in Maricopa County paid out so much in settlements - tens of millions of dollars - that they became uninsurable. Didn't stop him or his officers, because it didn't come out of their pockets anyway - the county had to pay up out of its budget. Since they couldn't take the money from the department directly, and certainly couldn't raise taxes (it's Arizona), they had to routinely cut other essential services to continue to pay for his lawsuits. The county Board of Supervisors would point out that these services were being cut ENTIRELY due to the actions of the department, which got through to the yelling residents at meetings not at all, who (mostly) fully supported everything Sheriff Joe was doing, but didn't want any of those other things cut to pay for his wrongdoing.

Make the officers and the department feel the pain of these lawsuits and you might actually see some action. If every $200K settlement meant the department had to fire one officer to cover the cost, or it came out of the actual department budget in other ways (department 401K/pension matching is reduced as a percentage of lawsuits paid) you might see some reform. Require officers to carry their own insurance, as doctors do, and the bad cops will soon become uninsurable and departments won't bother to hire them. There's lots of solutions, but they require actual action. Money talks. If a settlement means your pension goes down, suddenly you're a lot more willing to root out the bad cops.
 
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