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2020-08-03 11:53:22 PM  
38 votes:

brantgoose: duppy: [Fark user image 693x372]

We're back to counting in 911s. Good. I looked around for a metric that would be equivalent to a 911, but I gave up before finding a good one.

What I found was that over 9000 white American males die of cancer of the anus (not the rectum, the O-ring itself) in a year. But that doesn't include non-white males or any women, so it is shiatty metric.

Like measuring in Hobokens or Nutleys rather than New Jerseys or Rhode Islands.


I like kilobenghazis.  11,000 dead/week works out to 3.93 kilobenghazis/mooch
 
2020-08-04 12:12:00 AM  
21 votes:
jill stein would have saved us from 5g
 
2020-08-04 12:53:47 AM  
18 votes:

Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.


It doesn't help that Fark won't greenlight articles like this:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art​ic​le-8583925/The-land-no-face-masks-Holl​ands-scientists-say-theres-no-solid-ev​idence-coverings-work.html

The Dutch have HALF the death rate of the UK, and it's because they aren't relying on the false sense of security of a piece of cloth that doesn't necessarily do anything.
 
2020-08-04 12:33:30 AM  
17 votes:
There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.
 
2020-08-04 12:25:55 AM  
17 votes:
Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.
 
2020-08-04 12:38:29 AM  
16 votes:
I said it in another thread, but now it's looking quite likely that the Swedish approach may have been the right one.  Their death rate has plummeted to near zero.

They avoided all of the shutdown drama, all the compliance costs, unemployment headaches, isolation problems, etc. and the US (482/mil) may still end up hitting their rate of 580/mil or even surpassing it.
 
2020-08-04 12:45:43 AM  
14 votes:
It's also looking like the daily cases in FL, AZ, and TX might be on their way down, so it looks like many farkers are not going to get the red state death toll they were predicting (or hoping for).
 
2020-08-04 12:17:01 AM  
12 votes:
I was doing a little math on how much congressional testimony is warranted by an American death. I turned to Benghazi for some guidance. Hillary Clinton was grilled for 11 hours over 4 deaths. That comes out to 2.75 hours per death.

I suggest we make Donald Trump testify for an equivalent amount of time. We can debate how much more time to allow for bathroom breaks, but without breaks that comes out to 2.75 hours x 150,000 dead = 412,500 hours, or a little over 47 years.
 
2020-08-04 1:02:41 AM  
11 votes:

inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes


Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.
 
2020-08-04 12:55:15 AM  
11 votes:

pedrop357: I-K-Rumba: trump* is the biggest biological terrorist on earth. He should be dealt with as such. And every person that helped him along the way and those who did their damnedest to keep him in power should be treated as co-conspirators.No death penalty. Prison. For the rest of their lives. So they can have years of misery and pain.

Not the Chinese?


Nope.
-Virus that started in China... Trumps fault.
-Global warming... Trump
-Unemployment high because of social distancing regulations and non-essential people being out of work..Trump
-WW2 Holocaust... Trump
-Kitchen sink clogged, you bet your ass it was Trumps fault.
-Catwoman with Hallie Berry.. Yep Trump
 
2020-08-04 12:25:23 AM  
11 votes:

King Something: 'Murica.


In confirmed deaths per million, the following countries are higher than the US: Belgium, UK, Peru, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Chile. France and Brazil are just behind us.
 
2020-08-04 12:56:51 AM  
10 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.

You should say COVID-19 next.


Wow, what dumb filter is going on? I tried to say the name of the Chinese city and the flu.
 
2020-08-03 11:47:27 PM  
10 votes:

duppy: [Fark user image 693x372]


We're back to counting in 911s. Good. I looked around for a metric that would be equivalent to a 911, but I gave up before finding a good one.

What I found was that over 9000 white American males die of cancer of the anus (not the rectum, the O-ring itself) in a year. But that doesn't include non-white males or any women, so it is shiatty metric.

Like measuring in Hobokens or Nutleys rather than New Jerseys or Rhode Islands.
 
2020-08-03 11:45:37 PM  
10 votes:
Can we dump buckets of pigs blood on the murderer and his supporters? Sorta like Carrie but without PJ Soles boobies.
 
2020-08-04 12:39:42 AM  
9 votes:

gaspode: This is a great tragedy unfolding in front of us all. Can it really go on with this 'leadership' till january? 250000 dead and no national effort to stop it?

//oh and guys, please don't talk to it. Please.


I guess all the cure research, state aid, guidelines, etc. doesn't count as a national effort?
 
2020-08-04 12:09:40 AM  
8 votes:

halifaxdatageek: You know what's going on in the apartment downstairs right now, you can hear it, everyone can hear it.


Suzanne Vega - Luka (Official Video)
Youtube VZt7J0iaUD0
 
2020-08-04 12:46:14 AM  
7 votes:

I-K-Rumba: trump* is the biggest biological terrorist on earth. He should be dealt with as such. And every person that helped him along the way and those who did their damnedest to keep him in power should be treated as co-conspirators.No death penalty. Prison. For the rest of their lives. So they can have years of misery and pain.


Not the Chinese?
 
2020-08-04 12:38:59 AM  
7 votes:

gameshowhost: pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.

You only know stuff about guns.

That does not mean you know a goddamned thing about anything else, and you keep proving it over and over.


Hence your intelligent rebuttal.
 
2020-08-04 12:37:55 AM  
7 votes:

powhound: halifaxdatageek: In the time it took me to find the words to write this, just a couple of minutes, two people will have died from coronavirus in America. Two more by the time I've finished.

Folks that should have had a future. Everyone deserves a future.

Someone on this site described well the feeling Canadians are having right now: You know what's going on in the apartment downstairs right now, you can hear it, everyone can hear it.

But you can't do anything to stop it. You've tried, nothing's worked. It keeps going on, day by day, insinuating itself in your brain, simultaneously terrifying and mocking you for your powerlessness.

And you just have to hope that one day, hopefully soon, it stops.

If you Canadians were smart you would evict your downstairs neighbors.

Sorry, don't know step 2.


We tried burning down their White House, but it didn't take. (Yes I know it was actually the British but that's less funny)
 
2020-08-04 12:33:47 AM  
7 votes:

stan unusual: pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.

Are California, Texas, Florida, Georgia and Missouri doing that now?
No they aren't and you're pathetic attempts at diverting responsibility from Trump are getting really old.


No, and their death rate is far lower even now.
 
2020-08-04 12:17:45 AM  
7 votes:

Thank You Black Jesus!: jill stein would have saved us from 5g


I like it this way better - my mask gets me free internet.
 
2020-08-04 12:12:57 AM  
7 votes:

anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point


He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.
 
2020-08-04 1:27:03 AM  
6 votes:

anfrind: [Fark user image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point


I love you foreign bastards but using a decimal point where a comma should exist is practically a capital crime,

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS,

/teehee,
 
2020-08-04 12:16:44 AM  
6 votes:
iT's jUsT An upTiCk iN tHe fLu
 
2020-08-04 12:40:46 AM  
5 votes:
How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?
 
2020-08-04 12:06:13 AM  
5 votes:
In certain older, civilized cultures...

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-04 12:37:44 AM  
4 votes:

pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.


You only know stuff about guns.

That does not mean you know a goddamned thing about anything else, and you keep proving it over and over.
 
2020-08-04 12:36:24 AM  
4 votes:

Loucifer: In certain older, civilized cultures...

[Fark user image image 850x455]


But Donny doesn't have a sword...
 
2020-08-04 12:15:12 AM  
4 votes:
Bill Burr Tackles The Population Problem | Netflix Is A Joke
Youtube a9WowBxdhTQ
 
2020-08-04 12:00:26 AM  
4 votes:

brantgoose: We're back to counting in 911s. Good.


What is that in football fields
 
2020-08-04 6:03:57 AM  
3 votes:

inner ted: This thread filled with shiat quick


Yeah, there's a lot of dogshiat on the site these days.  But dont you dare post a sideboob!
 
2020-08-04 4:48:21 AM  
3 votes:

2wolves: MythDragon: Put him in the same cell as Hillary.

Why would Clinton be incarcerated?

Do give facts not opinions.


Because of her pizzagate emails to Vince Foster concerning Benghazi.
 
2020-08-04 2:33:35 AM  
3 votes:

puffy999: bughunter: puffy999: bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)

do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?

Remember her?  My father-in-law put a Dodge in her garage.

Your father in law got an old lady pregnant?

/wait


Well, let's just say she's lucky she didn't choose a Cutlass.
 
2020-08-04 2:26:12 AM  
3 votes:

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?


From what sight?
 
2020-08-04 2:19:38 AM  
3 votes:

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Try reading your graph again... You know the part that says the last couple of weeks do not count all the deaths yet!!!!


You think covid deaths dropped by 95% in the last two weeks?

Look at the weeks before on your graph it says 4000 dead per week!!


Fark user imageView Full Size

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/co​v​id_weekly/index.htm
I guess you need to read it again
and quit flipping out. That peak is may.
 
2020-08-04 2:09:46 AM  
3 votes:

bughunter: puffy999: bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)

do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?

Remember her?  My father-in-law put a Dodge in her garage.


Your father in law got an old lady pregnant?

/wait
 
2020-08-04 2:03:55 AM  
3 votes:
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-04 12:48:48 AM  
3 votes:

AsparagusFTW: My thought is this.

Given the average age of people who pass from this (yes I know young can die too), it is primarily hitting the elderly. The people that grandkids forget about. So people are not fully taking it serviously since it isn't close to home yet for a lot.

/sad all round


My mother (70 years old, btw) was complaining to me back in March that everyone who dies from Covid is having Covid listed as their cause of death, no matter how terrible their health was.  She mentioned her mother, who died a couple years earlier at 95ish and had been in terrible health for decades but somehow managed to live so long.  Her argument was that if her mom had died of Covid they would have listed her cause of death as Covid even though she was bed-ridden and had had no quality of life for at least 30 years.

I told her, "Mom, but if someone had broken into grandma's room with a hatchet and clubbed her over the head, should they not have considered that death a murder just because she was in bad health?'

Crickets...
 
2020-08-04 12:45:04 AM  
3 votes:
trump* is the biggest biological terrorist on earth. He should be dealt with as such. And every person that helped him along the way and those who did their damnedest to keep him in power should be treated as co-conspirators.No death penalty. Prison. For the rest of their lives. So they can have years of misery and pain.
 
2020-08-04 12:36:10 AM  
3 votes:
but it's just like the flu!
 
2020-08-04 12:31:40 AM  
3 votes:

pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.


Are California, Texas, Florida, Georgia and Missouri doing that now?
No they aren't and you're pathetic attempts at diverting responsibility from Trump are getting really old.
 
2020-08-03 11:49:43 PM  
3 votes:
Trolls are just farking pathetic
 
2020-08-03 11:48:35 PM  
3 votes:
Thanks trump
 
2020-08-03 9:17:34 PM  
3 votes:
As long as we stuck it to those libs, it will be all worth it.
 
2020-08-04 4:57:28 AM  
2 votes:

Maybe you should drive: AsparagusFTW: My thought is this.

Given the average age of people who pass from this (yes I know young can die too), it is primarily hitting the elderly. The people that grandkids forget about. So people are not fully taking it serviously since it isn't close to home yet for a lot.

/sad all round

My mother (70 years old, btw) was complaining to me back in March that everyone who dies from Covid is having Covid listed as their cause of death, no matter how terrible their health was.  She mentioned her mother, who died a couple years earlier at 95ish and had been in terrible health for decades but somehow managed to live so long.  Her argument was that if her mom had died of Covid they would have listed her cause of death as Covid even though she was bed-ridden and had had no quality of life for at least 30 years.

I told her, "Mom, but if someone had broken into grandma's room with a hatchet and clubbed her over the head, should they not have considered that death a murder just because she was in bad health?'

Crickets...


Sounds like a guy at work that said pretty much the same thing that someone that had covid and poor health was listed as a covid death. Plus this is somehow the demmycrats fault because they won't let Trump be Trump and countries in Europe beat it with herd immunity.
 
2020-08-04 2:38:51 AM  
2 votes:

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?

From what sight?

YOUR OWN SITE!!!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COV​ID19/index.htm
You have your numbers wrong  those aren't totals!!we had 3,000 people die in one day - how do you think the maximum was 5k for an entire week?


I posted a graph. Screenshot the number I got wrong.
 
2020-08-04 2:23:57 AM  
2 votes:

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Reading is hard:

Things to know about the data
Provisional counts are not final and are subject to change. Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as more records are received and processed.
Provisional data are not yet complete. Counts will not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for more recent periods. However, we can estimate how complete our numbers are by looking at the average number of deaths reported in previous years.


So what you believe is in 2 weeks it dropped by close to 99%???


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I'm not talking about the very last week you farking maniac. This goes back to the beginning of June under 1500. And peaks a little over 5000. How the fick can you justify 11000 with ant of that?

I know it hurts. Your trusted news source is farking with you and everyone else.
 
2020-08-04 1:51:12 AM  
2 votes:

gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.


I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak.
Fark user imageView Full Size


2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?
 
2020-08-04 1:30:33 AM  
2 votes:
So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

Fark user imageView Full Size

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/co​v​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"
 
2020-08-04 1:24:54 AM  
2 votes:

khatores: Billy Liar: They worry about unemployeds getting the extra money and making too much money to work.  They forget that nobody's hiring.

But if people stayed home, fewer people would catch the virus and die. And then how would we ever hit 11k a week? We'd have to try something else, like suspending background checks on guns or just buying a bunch and then driving around and handing them out for free.


But enough about Raz Simone.
 
2020-08-04 1:06:21 AM  
2 votes:

ansius: How people in other countries see what's happening in the US.

7-mins. Starts with a fairly light-hearted tone as you laugh at some of the stupid things that Trump says, but it ends with an oomph.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/kwkvTBgT​O7A]


Well, that was a depressing watch.

People in other counties care about Americans dying more than our own countrymen/women care about each other dying.

But hey, the stock market is doing great, so everything must be fine.

Schools opening back up soon, good time to invest in coffins and freezer trucks.
 
2020-08-04 12:51:08 AM  
2 votes:
I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.  (Roughly) Five months, 150,000 dead.  That's only 1,000 people a day.
Isn't that much better?
 
2020-08-04 12:48:29 AM  
2 votes:

MythDragon: whisper in the wind: And Trump takes no responsibility. He should be sent to prison after November.

Put him in the same cell as Hillary.
And put that shiat on 24/7 live stream.


Are you kidding? He'd be dead in the first 2 minutes.

Gotta be Pay-Per-View.
 
2020-08-04 12:35:14 AM  
2 votes:

whisper in the wind: And Trump takes no responsibility. He should be sent to prison after November.


Put him in the same cell as Hillary.
And put that shiat on 24/7 live stream.
 
2020-08-04 12:27:01 AM  
2 votes:
Just a liberal hoax.
 
2020-08-04 12:22:20 AM  
2 votes:
It's the flu. In August. It will go away. They are all wrong, send kiddies to school & go to work.  Make it great.  (Sorry, Trump channelled evil again) His kids will be just fine. Stay safe!
 
2020-08-04 12:15:41 AM  
2 votes:
Unavoidable.

/ Trump has stock in vaccine companies.
 
2020-08-04 12:13:55 AM  
2 votes:

ansius: How people in other countries see what's happening in the US.

7-mins. Starts with a fairly light-hearted tone as you laugh at some of the stupid things that Trump says, but it ends with an oomph.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/kwkvTBgT​O7A]


I had just returned from a trip to NYC before this all started.

Seeing the beautiful park I had walked through the month before, and showed my friends photos of, operating as a massive field hospital where bodies were dumped into pits without ceremony, was indescribable.
 
2020-08-03 11:54:36 PM  
2 votes:
These numbers don't seem right to me. I feel they're a bit too optimistic.
 
2020-08-03 11:45:50 PM  
2 votes:
Silly subby, even without corona, 15 000 people die every day in India.

Murica is NOT number #1... YET!!
 
2020-08-03 11:44:52 PM  
2 votes:
And Trump takes no responsibility. He should be sent to prison after November.
 
2020-08-04 12:38:19 PM  
1 vote:

the voice of raisin: Abox: brantgoose: We're back to counting in 911s. Good.

What is that in football fields

it's about 1% of Rhode Island per week.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_​Island


How many washing machines in a hole is that?
 
2020-08-04 9:17:46 AM  
1 vote:

2wolves: MythDragon: Put him in the same cell as Hillary.

Why would Clinton be incarcerated?

Do give facts not opinions.


Improper use of classified government computers. From when she put butter on her emails.
 
2020-08-04 7:48:47 AM  
1 vote:

Twilight Farkle: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/0oHtLmjK​RbE]


Thread's over folks, lights shutting off in 3. . . 2. . . .
 
2020-08-04 6:52:47 AM  
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born_yesterday: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: I posted a graph. Screenshot the number I got wrong.

fark'emfeed'emfish: Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


Oh sorry doing what you asked me to do. After telling me I was wrong again and again when I wasn't

Each of these threads is now a constant struggle to refute dis and misinformation that has the full support of management.

Not.A.Dime.


Exactly! And when I complained about it just the other day when one of MY posts was deleted yet the filth are still allowed to proliferate - no reply.

I'm letting my TF lapse and will not renew, and I've been a paying customer for over a decade, but no more.

These "alternate opinion" people are spreading misinformation and this site lets them do so freely.

Well, they can do it without my money.

And watch this post disappear.
 
2020-08-04 6:15:11 AM  
1 vote:

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: I posted a graph. Screenshot the number I got wrong.

fark'emfeed'emfish: Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


Oh sorry doing what you asked me to do. After telling me I was wrong again and again when I wasn't


Each of these threads is now a constant struggle to refute dis and misinformation that has the full support of management.

Not.A.Dime.
 
2020-08-04 5:26:09 AM  
1 vote:
This CDC list is updated daily.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/co​v​id19/index.htm
Thus far the trend does not reflect this "prediction".
 
2020-08-04 5:20:51 AM  
1 vote:

Hankie Fest: I'm a pastor and I'm really tired of doing COVID funerals.
Stop it, y'all. Stop.


Aren't you kind of preaching to the wrong crowd?
 
2020-08-04 5:17:22 AM  
1 vote:

FlyingBacon: People do die, not always from the virus even they had it


As far as I have read, you don't die directly from Covid-19.  Covid-19 causes 1 of 2 types of deaths:

either a "cytokine storm" where your immune system tears your body apart

or Covid-19 weakens other systems (e.g.  respiratory or pulmonary) to the point where they can no longer sustain life.

So every death where the person tested positive for SARS-Cov-2 is a Covid-19 caused death.

Arguing otherwise is like saying AIDS patients died of pneumonia, not AIDS.
 
2020-08-04 4:19:01 AM  
1 vote:

Bennie Crabtree: Brooksider: Can't say he didn't warn us.

[Fark user image 425x388]

I remember that Tweet. I am just shocked I haven't seen it being brought up by House Democrats.. Who was it meant for? What spurred it? Who made it? Find that person. Find out. It's the only clue that substantiates Covid is some kind of conspiracy. (By which I mean it substantiates nothing, but it is too on-point to be dismissed).


I think the joke is that he is fiddling while Rome burns and we all farked
 
2020-08-04 3:43:59 AM  
1 vote:

kayanlau: That's a lot of 9/11s ....


Its almost 4,000 benghazis a week.
 
2020-08-04 3:23:35 AM  
1 vote:
The last time I saw people this desperate to spin data and news articles has been in regards to global warming. And before that, smoking tobacco.

We deserve this plague. Maybe it'll teach us not to be so self-absorbed in humanity before it is over.
 
2020-08-04 3:01:23 AM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: fark'emfeed'emfish: LrdPhoenix: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

That graph is cumulative.  That red line is only for people aged 85+.  You also have to add the other humps to it.  So, it's about 5.5k per week for people 85+, +4.5k for 75-84, +3.5 for 65-74, +2k for 55-64, +~1k for 45-54, +a few hundred each for the lower groups.  According to your graph, we had a peak of around 17k for mid April.

Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


What is 11,000 then 3-5 times what we've seen weekly since june?

Ok, thanks. My bad, but the article is not about April, it's about this month.

I believe the more recent rows are ~4000 now that it's in the wild, hospitals have learned better treatments and pharmaceuticals are being made available.

So CBS is still nearly tripling to 11,000.


Yes growth.

it's continuing to grow.

its rate of increase.
 
2020-08-04 2:56:24 AM  
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fark'emfeed'emfish: LrdPhoenix: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

That graph is cumulative.  That red line is only for people aged 85+.  You also have to add the other humps to it.  So, it's about 5.5k per week for people 85+, +4.5k for 75-84, +3.5 for 65-74, +2k for 55-64, +~1k for 45-54, +a few hundred each for the lower groups.  According to your graph, we had a peak of around 17k for mid April.

Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


What is 11,000 then 3-5 times what we've seen weekly since june?


Ok, thanks. My bad, but the article is not about April, it's about this month.

I believe the more recent rows are ~4000 now that it's in the wild, hospitals have learned better treatments and pharmaceuticals are being made available.

So CBS is still nearly tripling to 11,000.
 
2020-08-04 2:51:38 AM  
1 vote:
People do die, not always from the virus even they had it
 
2020-08-04 2:51:17 AM  
1 vote:

LrdPhoenix: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

That graph is cumulative.  That red line is only for people aged 85+.  You also have to add the other humps to it.  So, it's about 5.5k per week for people 85+, +4.5k for 75-84, +3.5 for 65-74, +2k for 55-64, +~1k for 45-54, +a few hundred each for the lower groups.  According to your graph, we had a peak of around 17k for mid April.


Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


What is 11,000 then 3-5 times what we've seen weekly since june?
 
2020-08-04 2:32:22 AM  
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Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that

That was just 85 year olds and over NOT EVERYONE!!


Look again you farking lunatic.

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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/co​v​id_weekly/index.htm

Click on one of the lines and it'll break the numbers down... They're stacked.
 
2020-08-04 2:27:28 AM  
1 vote:

pedrop357: It's also looking like the daily cases in FL, AZ, and TX might be on their way down, so it looks like many farkers are not going to get the red state death toll they were predicting (or hoping for).


That's a really dishonest and irresponsible way to spin the fact that this is the first week a long time the US hasn't set a **new record** for infections. Just because this week isn't a new record high doesn't mean "it looks like" any thing at all, you diarrhea-spewing gibbon.
 
2020-08-04 2:21:10 AM  
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Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.

You should say COVID-19 next.

Wow, what dumb filter is going on? I tried to say the name of the Chinese city and the flu.


We have a new filter addition!
 
2020-08-04 2:19:32 AM  
1 vote:

Maybe you should drive: Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.

I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.


I do in home care so I've been working through this too. I guess the thing that makes me smh is that people have politicized this to the point of public freak outs and tantrums and assaults 'cause their side/ other side. It's like some weird mash up of European football and The Walking Dead.
 
2020-08-04 2:17:31 AM  
1 vote:

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that

That was the peak for ONE AGE GROUP not the count for everyone.

Learn to read a chart!!!!


Those are stacked dickbump
 
2020-08-04 2:15:41 AM  
1 vote:
Orange man bad!!!!

<how was that?>
 
2020-08-04 2:11:15 AM  
1 vote:
Is it as bad as the Flu yet?
 
2020-08-04 2:09:30 AM  
1 vote:
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2020-08-04 1:58:57 AM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that


That was just 85 year olds and over NOT EVERYONE!!
 
2020-08-04 1:56:24 AM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?


From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?
 
2020-08-04 1:55:02 AM  
1 vote:

bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)


do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?
 
2020-08-04 1:53:15 AM  
1 vote:
Republicans: Only about 20 Black people get killed by cops per year!! Who cares!!!

Also Republicans: Protesters and Antifa that kill no one we must do everything to stop!!! Unleash the US military and have fed agents beat up on citizens that didn't even do anything wrong!!!

Also Republicans: 160,000 Americans dead with 1,000 dying every day is nothing we should do anything about!! Who cares!!! Wearing a mask is asking too much!!
 
2020-08-04 1:52:14 AM  
1 vote:
We should rename it Mueller's Disease.
 
2020-08-04 1:51:53 AM  
1 vote:
So has the death rate risen above the flu?
 
2020-08-04 1:41:07 AM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"


Reading is hard:

Things to know about the data
Provisional counts are not final and are subject to change. Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as more records are received and processed.
Provisional data are not yet complete. Counts will not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for more recent periods. However, we can estimate how complete our numbers are by looking at the average number of deaths reported in previous years.


So what you believe is in 2 weeks it dropped by close to 99%???
 
2020-08-04 1:38:26 AM  
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fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"


Try reading your graph again... You know the part that says the last couple of weeks do not count all the deaths yet!!!!


You think covid deaths dropped by 95% in the last two weeks?

Look at the weeks before on your graph it says 4000 dead per week!!
 
2020-08-04 1:36:16 AM  
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2020-08-04 1:34:33 AM  
1 vote:

Skeleton Man: Maybe you should drive: Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.

I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.

How is being antisocial making any of this worse? Socializing is the only way to spread this damn thing.


I suppose I could have chosen a word that made it more clear, but I was referring to the idiots who insist on going to parties, going to bars, or attending other events without social distancing or masks in order to stick it to the man and show they won't be bound by society's rules.

antisocial

contrary to the laws and customs of society; devoid of or antagonistic to sociable instincts or practices.
 
2020-08-04 1:23:05 AM  
1 vote:
I had to chuckle (darkly) just now at my local city newspaper.  On one page alone they had two ads for funeral homes, one for a cemetery and one for a law firm that specializes in wills and estate planning.
 
2020-08-04 1:13:02 AM  
1 vote:
The worst month for US deaths due to the Spanish Flu pandemic was in October 1918 killing 195k.  That was before there were antibiotics to treat secondary infections, ventilators and a host of other advances in modern medicine and we still may break that record if Trump's wishful thinking and bullshiat is allowed to dictate our public health response to the Coronavirus pandemic.
 
2020-08-04 1:11:16 AM  
1 vote:

Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.


I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.
 
2020-08-04 12:58:45 AM  
1 vote:

inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes


Oh I'm not volunteering. I wear a mask in public. I Isolate at home. I'm just watching the slow motion train wreck from my living room and hoping it doesn't come crashing through my wall today.
 
2020-08-04 12:55:34 AM  
1 vote:

pedrop357: gameshowhost: pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.

You only know stuff about guns.

That does not mean you know a goddamned thing about anything else, and you keep proving it over and over.

Hence your intelligent rebuttal.


Hence you just played yourself, bro.
 
2020-08-04 12:44:14 AM  
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powhound: halifaxdatageek: In the time it took me to find the words to write this, just a couple of minutes, two people will have died from coronavirus in America. Two more by the time I've finished.

Folks that should have had a future. Everyone deserves a future.

Someone on this site described well the feeling Canadians are having right now: You know what's going on in the apartment downstairs right now, you can hear it, everyone can hear it.

But you can't do anything to stop it. You've tried, nothing's worked. It keeps going on, day by day, insinuating itself in your brain, simultaneously terrifying and mocking you for your powerlessness.

And you just have to hope that one day, hopefully soon, it stops.

If you Canadians were smart you would evict your downstairs neighbors.

Sorry, don't know step 2.


Step 2 is to take control of the vacated space.
Step 3 is obviously, profit.
 
2020-08-04 12:43:58 AM  
1 vote:

RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?


Soon I hope.
 
2020-08-04 12:38:29 AM  
1 vote:
This is a great tragedy unfolding in front of us all. Can it really go on with this 'leadership' till january? 250000 dead and no national effort to stop it?

//oh and guys, please don't talk to it. Please.
 
2020-08-04 12:34:26 AM  
1 vote:

pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.


You should say COVID-19 next.
 
2020-08-04 12:29:16 AM  
1 vote:
My thought is this.

Given the average age of people who pass from this (yes I know young can die too), it is primarily hitting the elderly. The people that grandkids forget about. So people are not fully taking it serviously since it isn't close to home yet for a lot.

/sad all round
 
2020-08-04 12:26:35 AM  
1 vote:
Just remember this anger in November.
 
2020-08-04 12:22:06 AM  
1 vote:

anfrind: [Fark user image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point


100.000 Americans.  That seems very specific.
 
2020-08-04 12:13:31 AM  
1 vote:
So that means more than 200,000 dead by September 1st.
 
2020-08-04 12:06:42 AM  
1 vote:

whisper in the wind: And Trump takes no responsibility. He should be sent to prison after November.


Technically, that would be January.
 
2020-08-03 11:53:03 PM  
1 vote:

halifaxdatageek: But you can't do anything to stop it. You've tried, nothing's worked. It keeps going on, day by day, insinuating itself in your brain, simultaneously terrifying and mocking you for your powerlessness.


Canada could make a vaccine.  That would be awesome.   Do that and it would really help a lot.
 
2020-08-03 11:50:12 PM  
1 vote:

lolmao500: Silly subby, even without corona, 15 000 people die every day in India.

Murica is NOT number #1... YET!!


Oh, it's number one, alright, in Coronavirus 19 deaths and cases.

Nobody can take that away from you, not even India with its near teaming billlion people. Because the rate per million is so much lower in India, that even doubling or quadrupling the number of "real" deaths is not likely to catch them up.

World's largest democracy is safe. America has this. The world's largest democracy may be doing better than China, which has 50% more people at the moment.

India may have more new cases or more deaths per day, but you had a seven month head start on the pandemic. They were nowhere in March and April.
 
2020-08-03 11:43:31 PM  
1 vote:
That's a lot of 9/11s ....
 
2020-08-03 11:39:33 PM  
1 vote:
All very preventable.
 
2020-08-03 9:48:32 PM  
1 vote:
How people in other countries see what's happening in the US.

7-mins. Starts with a fairly light-hearted tone as you laugh at some of the stupid things that Trump says, but it ends with an oomph.

What Does America's Coronavirus Response Look Like Abroad? | NYT Opinion
Youtube kwkvTBgTO7A
 
2020-08-03 9:15:21 PM  
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