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2020-08-04 2:21:10 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.

You should say COVID-19 next.

Wow, what dumb filter is going on? I tried to say the name of the Chinese city and the flu.


We have a new filter addition!
 
2020-08-04 2:22:34 AM  

ShockDiode: trappedspirit: So has the death rate risen above the flu?

On the low end of the official estimates, we passed that on April 11th, on the high end we passed that on April 29th. So yes.


Let's not forget that the flu is still happening. The comparison shiat is shiat. It's not like Covid *replaced* it. All of these dates are in *addition* to the flu. 'Extra deaths' if you will.

/Doesn't get pointed out enough
 
2020-08-04 2:23:57 AM  

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Reading is hard:

Things to know about the data
Provisional counts are not final and are subject to change. Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as more records are received and processed.
Provisional data are not yet complete. Counts will not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for more recent periods. However, we can estimate how complete our numbers are by looking at the average number of deaths reported in previous years.


So what you believe is in 2 weeks it dropped by close to 99%???


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I'm not talking about the very last week you farking maniac. This goes back to the beginning of June under 1500. And peaks a little over 5000. How the fick can you justify 11000 with ant of that?

I know it hurts. Your trusted news source is farking with you and everyone else.
 
2020-08-04 2:26:12 AM  

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?


From what sight?
 
2020-08-04 2:27:28 AM  

pedrop357: It's also looking like the daily cases in FL, AZ, and TX might be on their way down, so it looks like many farkers are not going to get the red state death toll they were predicting (or hoping for).


That's a really dishonest and irresponsible way to spin the fact that this is the first week a long time the US hasn't set a **new record** for infections. Just because this week isn't a new record high doesn't mean "it looks like" any thing at all, you diarrhea-spewing gibbon.
 
2020-08-04 2:32:22 AM  

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that

That was just 85 year olds and over NOT EVERYONE!!


Look again you farking lunatic.

Fark user imageView Full Size

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/co​v​id_weekly/index.htm

Click on one of the lines and it'll break the numbers down... They're stacked.
 
2020-08-04 2:33:35 AM  

puffy999: bughunter: puffy999: bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)

do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?

Remember her?  My father-in-law put a Dodge in her garage.

Your father in law got an old lady pregnant?

/wait


Well, let's just say she's lucky she didn't choose a Cutlass.
 
2020-08-04 2:33:39 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?

From what sight?


YOUR OWN SITE!!!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/CO​V​ID19/index.htm
You have your numbers wrong  those aren't totals!!we had 3,000 people die in one day - how do you think the maximum was 5k for an entire week?
 
2020-08-04 2:33:51 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: Is it as bad as the Flu yet?


We passed the annual influenza death rate in about 4-5 months. It's now August. So yes. And the after effects are a lot worse than the flu for many who survive. It's leaving an awful lot of chronically damaged people, including an old friend of mine. She's three months out now from 'recovery' and still can't make it through half a day's work. She's got pulmonary scarring.
 
2020-08-04 2:36:42 AM  

BafflerMeal: ShockDiode: trappedspirit: So has the death rate risen above the flu?

On the low end of the official estimates, we passed that on April 11th, on the high end we passed that on April 29th. So yes.

Let's not forget that the flu is still happening. The comparison shiat is shiat. It's not like Covid *replaced* it. All of these dates are in *addition* to the flu. 'Extra deaths' if you will.

/Doesn't get pointed out enough


Flu deaths will likely be down significantly worldwide since Covid precautions work on the flu as well. It won't come close to making up for the Covid deaths obviously since we're already at double the average annual worldwide flu mortality.
 
2020-08-04 2:37:48 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that

That was just 85 year olds and over NOT EVERYONE!!

Look again you farking lunatic.

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Click on one of the lines and it'll break the numbers down... They're stacked.


No they are for each category seperetly. those numbers are just for that single age range!!


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That 5K is ONLY for 85+

you think 85+ were not dying at all for march to April?
 
2020-08-04 2:38:33 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?


That graph is cumulative.  That red line is only for people aged 85+.  You also have to add the other humps to it.  So, it's about 5.5k per week for people 85+, +4.5k for 75-84, +3.5 for 65-74, +2k for 55-64, +~1k for 45-54, +a few hundred each for the lower groups.  According to your graph, we had a peak of around 17k for mid April.
 
2020-08-04 2:38:51 AM  

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?

From what sight?

YOUR OWN SITE!!!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COV​ID19/index.htm
You have your numbers wrong  those aren't totals!!we had 3,000 people die in one day - how do you think the maximum was 5k for an entire week?


I posted a graph. Screenshot the number I got wrong.
 
2020-08-04 2:42:07 AM  

whisper in the wind: And Trump takes no responsibility. He should be sent to prison after November.


There's a whole forest of streetlights on Pennsylvania avenue that needs decorations
 
2020-08-04 2:43:22 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that

That was just 85 year olds and over NOT EVERYONE!!

Look again you farking lunatic.

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Click on one of the lines and it'll break the numbers down... They're stacked.


Here is from the same site again from the table chart:

"All Deaths involving Covid-19"
4/11/2020 16,089

4/18/2020 16,985


16 and 17 thousand is a LOT higher than 5k which you said was the peak.
 
2020-08-04 2:48:13 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?

From what sight?

YOUR OWN SITE!!!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COV​ID19/index.htm
You have your numbers wrong  those aren't totals!!we had 3,000 people die in one day - how do you think the maximum was 5k for an entire week?

I posted a graph. Screenshot the number I got wrong.


Well I already did...

But since you asked

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-08-04 2:51:17 AM  

LrdPhoenix: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

That graph is cumulative.  That red line is only for people aged 85+.  You also have to add the other humps to it.  So, it's about 5.5k per week for people 85+, +4.5k for 75-84, +3.5 for 65-74, +2k for 55-64, +~1k for 45-54, +a few hundred each for the lower groups.  According to your graph, we had a peak of around 17k for mid April.


Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


What is 11,000 then 3-5 times what we've seen weekly since june?
 
2020-08-04 2:51:38 AM  
People do die, not always from the virus even they had it
 
2020-08-04 2:52:34 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?

From what sight?

YOUR OWN SITE!!!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COV​ID19/index.htm
You have your numbers wrong  those aren't totals!!we had 3,000 people die in one day - how do you think the maximum was 5k for an entire week?

I posted a graph. Screenshot the number I got wrong.



Fark user imageView Full Size


That was only 85+ Year olds. Not totals.
 
2020-08-04 2:55:09 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: I posted a graph. Screenshot the number I got wrong.


fark'emfeed'emfish: Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.



Oh sorry doing what you asked me to do. After telling me I was wrong again and again when I wasn't
 
2020-08-04 2:56:24 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: LrdPhoenix: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

That graph is cumulative.  That red line is only for people aged 85+.  You also have to add the other humps to it.  So, it's about 5.5k per week for people 85+, +4.5k for 75-84, +3.5 for 65-74, +2k for 55-64, +~1k for 45-54, +a few hundred each for the lower groups.  According to your graph, we had a peak of around 17k for mid April.

Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


What is 11,000 then 3-5 times what we've seen weekly since june?


Ok, thanks. My bad, but the article is not about April, it's about this month.

I believe the more recent rows are ~4000 now that it's in the wild, hospitals have learned better treatments and pharmaceuticals are being made available.

So CBS is still nearly tripling to 11,000.
 
2020-08-04 2:59:40 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: What is 11,000 then 3-5 times what we've seen weekly since june?


7/18/2020 4,081

Is a weekly total. Now trying multiplying that by 4.

I have faith that you can do this one.


That was the last week it looks we have have data that make sense before. Unless of course you think covid-19 deaths dropped 94% in 2 weeks like you seem to have believed earlier.
 
2020-08-04 3:01:23 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: fark'emfeed'emfish: LrdPhoenix: fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?

That graph is cumulative.  That red line is only for people aged 85+.  You also have to add the other humps to it.  So, it's about 5.5k per week for people 85+, +4.5k for 75-84, +3.5 for 65-74, +2k for 55-64, +~1k for 45-54, +a few hundred each for the lower groups.  According to your graph, we had a peak of around 17k for mid April.

Ah yeah, fair enough. Got confused by a flurry of corvus posts.


What is 11,000 then 3-5 times what we've seen weekly since june?

Ok, thanks. My bad, but the article is not about April, it's about this month.

I believe the more recent rows are ~4000 now that it's in the wild, hospitals have learned better treatments and pharmaceuticals are being made available.

So CBS is still nearly tripling to 11,000.


Yes growth.

it's continuing to grow.

its rate of increase.
 
2020-08-04 3:02:06 AM  
alright bye. have fun.
 
2020-08-04 3:23:35 AM  
The last time I saw people this desperate to spin data and news articles has been in regards to global warming. And before that, smoking tobacco.

We deserve this plague. Maybe it'll teach us not to be so self-absorbed in humanity before it is over.
 
2020-08-04 3:36:06 AM  

brantgoose: duppy: [Fark user image 693x372]

We're back to counting in 911s. Good. I looked around for a metric that would be equivalent to a 911, but I gave up before finding a good one.

What I found was that over 9000 white American males die of cancer of the anus (not the rectum, the O-ring itself) in a year. But that doesn't include non-white males or any women, so it is shiatty metric.

Like measuring in Hobokens or Nutleys rather than New Jerseys or Rhode Islands.


0.16 Rhode Islands, but growing super fast. And case counts (which include people who are damaged for life) is officially at 4.7 Rhode Islands, and unofficially multitudes higher than that.

/also the death rate is likely undercounted as well, and judging by the metric of excess deaths I can't find a recent enough stat for, but appears to be 2 to 3 times the official CoViD-19 death count worth of Rhode Islands. So, 0.3 - 0.6?
 
2020-08-04 3:43:59 AM  

kayanlau: That's a lot of 9/11s ....


Its almost 4,000 benghazis a week.
 
2020-08-04 3:48:45 AM  

Abox: brantgoose: We're back to counting in 911s. Good.

What is that in football fields


Take a football field (ok, soccer) which is 125 yards long and 80 yards wide.
Place one person on the centre spot.
Now place one person one socially distanced yard away from them in each of the four directions (forward, back, left, right).
Continue doing so until the entire football field is completely full of people, one yard apart.
You will have completely filled the pitch by the time you have placed 10,000 people.
 
2020-08-04 3:51:02 AM  

pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.


I think the larger issue is the 37,000 New York nursing home workers who tested positive in March.
 
2020-08-04 3:53:32 AM  

pedrop357: I said it in another thread, but now it's looking quite likely that the Swedish approach may have been the right one.  Their death rate has plummeted to near zero.

They avoided all of the shutdown drama, all the compliance costs, unemployment headaches, isolation problems, etc. and the US (482/mil) may still end up hitting their rate of 580/mil or even surpassing it.


They had nearly an order of magnitude more deaths per capita than their neighbors (who did shut down) and their economy still sucked. More dead people, same crap economy. Sweden has been an utter disaster and no amount of gaslighting from the plague rats will change that. Why do you people always have to lie?
 
2020-08-04 3:55:29 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.


Yeah, but, you get that the difference is France, Brazil, India et al are not constantly talking shiat about how awesome they are, right?
 
2020-08-04 4:14:14 AM  

dbaggins: halifaxdatageek: But you can't do anything to stop it. You've tried, nothing's worked. It keeps going on, day by day, insinuating itself in your brain, simultaneously terrifying and mocking you for your powerlessness.

Canada could make a vaccine.  That would be awesome.   Do that and it would really help a lot.


and how many Americans wouldn't take it because "mah freedums!" or "5G" or "Bill Gates" or "Asperger's"
 
2020-08-04 4:14:28 AM  

zerkalo: 11,000, many of whom will die behind plastic sheeting or in a restricted ICU while intubated and sedated. No saying goodbye, no dying on one's own terms, no passing in hospice or at home. Yeah, many of them were coming to the end-of-life but I doubt this would have been the conditions they or their loved ones would have chosen


Thing is, it seems to murder anyone over 70, just not nursing home folks.

My 72 year old father is still super active, still goes to work at his store every day, works out in the gym five days a week, but is asthmatic and has sleep apnea.  He is convinced everyone was already exposed and it is those other old people at risk.  He does not realize, will not accept he is a prime risk candidate.  How could he be, in his mind?  He hasn't even retired yet, and has no plans to until he finally makes back all that money Bush lost him in 2008, but that he still blames Obama and the media for losing him, "because they scared everyone into thinking the economy was bad."

He still thinks Trump is gonna be his economic savior.  He does not realize his income is far too low for Trump to care about, and also that until there is a middle class again, there is no market for the middle class home furnishings he sells.
 
2020-08-04 4:16:35 AM  

Abox: brantgoose: We're back to counting in 911s. Good.

What is that in football fields


it's about 1% of Rhode Island per week.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode​_​Island
 
2020-08-04 4:19:01 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Brooksider: Can't say he didn't warn us.

[Fark user image 425x388]

I remember that Tweet. I am just shocked I haven't seen it being brought up by House Democrats.. Who was it meant for? What spurred it? Who made it? Find that person. Find out. It's the only clue that substantiates Covid is some kind of conspiracy. (By which I mean it substantiates nothing, but it is too on-point to be dismissed).


I think the joke is that he is fiddling while Rome burns and we all farked
 
2020-08-04 4:21:05 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.


I dont think Herman Cain is arguing whether deaths per 100,000 or total deaths is an appropriate metric any more.

I wonder which metric Louie Gohmert prefers.
 
2020-08-04 4:22:05 AM  

the voice of raisin: Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.

I dont think Herman Cain is arguing whether deaths per 100,000 or total deaths is an appropriate metric any more.

I wonder which metric Louie Gohmert prefers.


How many coma nightmares?
 
2020-08-04 4:38:51 AM  

pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.


if Trump spent half the resources to contain the novel Coronavirus that he did mobilizing the half-dozen departments to assault and kidnap peaceful protesters in Portland, kids may have been able to return to full time in-person school and all those businesses would have been able to reopen.

but he's only the President, it's not anybody believes or trusts him.

it really takes being a world-class farkup to make W look like a superhero.
 
2020-08-04 4:44:50 AM  

MythDragon: Put him in the same cell as Hillary.


Why would Clinton be incarcerated?

Do give facts not opinions.
 
2020-08-04 4:45:21 AM  

pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.


how bad of a President do you have to be when it's statistically safer to join the military and get deployed on the ground in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban with Russian bounties than it is to be on American soil.
 
2020-08-04 4:48:20 AM  

pedrop357: gaspode: This is a great tragedy unfolding in front of us all. Can it really go on with this 'leadership' till january? 250000 dead and no national effort to stop it?

//oh and guys, please don't talk to it. Please.

I guess all the cure research, state aid, guidelines, etc. doesn't count as a national effort?


how many months of rent/mortgage payments did $1200 buy you?
 
2020-08-04 4:48:21 AM  

2wolves: MythDragon: Put him in the same cell as Hillary.

Why would Clinton be incarcerated?

Do give facts not opinions.


Because of her pizzagate emails to Vince Foster concerning Benghazi.
 
2020-08-04 4:50:37 AM  

Maybe you should drive: AsparagusFTW: My thought is this.

Given the average age of people who pass from this (yes I know young can die too), it is primarily hitting the elderly. The people that grandkids forget about. So people are not fully taking it serviously since it isn't close to home yet for a lot.

/sad all round

My mother (70 years old, btw) was complaining to me back in March that everyone who dies from Covid is having Covid listed as their cause of death, no matter how terrible their health was.  She mentioned her mother, who died a couple years earlier at 95ish and had been in terrible health for decades but somehow managed to live so long.  Her argument was that if her mom had died of Covid they would have listed her cause of death as Covid even though she was bed-ridden and had had no quality of life for at least 30 years.

I told her, "Mom, but if someone had broken into grandma's room with a hatchet and clubbed her over the head, should they not have considered that death a murder just because she was in bad health?'

Crickets...


I'm totally borrowing that analogy
 
2020-08-04 4:53:00 AM  

gar1013: Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.

It doesn't help that Fark won't greenlight articles like this:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti​cle-8583925/The-land-no-face-masks-Hol​lands-scientists-say-theres-no-solid-e​vidence-coverings-work.html

The Dutch have HALF the death rate of the UK, and it's because they aren't relying on the false sense of security of a piece of cloth that doesn't necessarily do anything.


yeah that's why doctors perform surgeries in sweatpants and wife-beaters.
 
2020-08-04 4:54:25 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: pedrop357: I-K-Rumba: trump* is the biggest biological terrorist on earth. He should be dealt with as such. And every person that helped him along the way and those who did their damnedest to keep him in power should be treated as co-conspirators.No death penalty. Prison. For the rest of their lives. So they can have years of misery and pain.

Not the Chinese?

Nope.
-Virus that started in China... Trumps fault.
-Global warming... Trump
-Unemployment high because of social distancing regulations and non-essential people being out of work..Trump
-WW2 Holocaust... Trump
-Kitchen sink clogged, you bet your ass it was Trumps fault.
-Catwoman with Hallie Berry.. Yep Trump


You also blame Africa for Ebola?
Who do you blame for TB?
Polio?
Measles?
 
2020-08-04 4:56:32 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.


ya know, Herman Cain said the same thing.

Wonder what he's up to?
 
2020-08-04 4:57:28 AM  

Maybe you should drive: AsparagusFTW: My thought is this.

Given the average age of people who pass from this (yes I know young can die too), it is primarily hitting the elderly. The people that grandkids forget about. So people are not fully taking it serviously since it isn't close to home yet for a lot.

/sad all round

My mother (70 years old, btw) was complaining to me back in March that everyone who dies from Covid is having Covid listed as their cause of death, no matter how terrible their health was.  She mentioned her mother, who died a couple years earlier at 95ish and had been in terrible health for decades but somehow managed to live so long.  Her argument was that if her mom had died of Covid they would have listed her cause of death as Covid even though she was bed-ridden and had had no quality of life for at least 30 years.

I told her, "Mom, but if someone had broken into grandma's room with a hatchet and clubbed her over the head, should they not have considered that death a murder just because she was in bad health?'

Crickets...


Sounds like a guy at work that said pretty much the same thing that someone that had covid and poor health was listed as a covid death. Plus this is somehow the demmycrats fault because they won't let Trump be Trump and countries in Europe beat it with herd immunity.
 
2020-08-04 5:01:39 AM  

Hankie Fest: I'm a pastor and I'm really tired of doing COVID funerals.
Stop it, y'all. Stop.


I thought funerals were not allowed.
 
2020-08-04 5:03:28 AM  

bughunter: puffy999: bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)

do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?

Remember her?  My father-in-law put a Dodge in her garage.


is that a euphemism for something?
 
2020-08-04 5:17:22 AM  

FlyingBacon: People do die, not always from the virus even they had it


As far as I have read, you don't die directly from Covid-19.  Covid-19 causes 1 of 2 types of deaths:

either a "cytokine storm" where your immune system tears your body apart

or Covid-19 weakens other systems (e.g.  respiratory or pulmonary) to the point where they can no longer sustain life.

So every death where the person tested positive for SARS-Cov-2 is a Covid-19 caused death.

Arguing otherwise is like saying AIDS patients died of pneumonia, not AIDS.
 
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