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2020-08-04 1:17:57 AM  
Remember when it was a big deal around here that the virus had killed as many people as 9/11?

That was like, 60 years ago.

I'm tired.
 
2020-08-04 1:20:44 AM  

gar1013: Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.

It doesn't help that Fark won't greenlight articles like this:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti​cle-8583925/The-land-no-face-masks-Hol​lands-scientists-say-theres-no-solid-e​vidence-coverings-work.html

The Dutch have HALF the death rate of the UK, and it's because they aren't relying on the false sense of security of a piece of cloth that doesn't necessarily do anything.


the daily mail, for science! i'm sure there's no fail involved.
 
2020-08-04 1:21:14 AM  

Maybe you should drive: Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.

I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.


How is being antisocial making any of this worse? Socializing is the only way to spread this damn thing.
 
2020-08-04 1:21:36 AM  

Billy Liar: They worry about unemployeds getting the extra money and making too much money to work.  They forget that nobody's hiring.


But if people stayed home, fewer people would catch the virus and die. And then how would we ever hit 11k a week? We'd have to try something else, like suspending background checks on guns or just buying a bunch and then driving around and handing them out for free.
 
2020-08-04 1:23:05 AM  
I had to chuckle (darkly) just now at my local city newspaper.  On one page alone they had two ads for funeral homes, one for a cemetery and one for a law firm that specializes in wills and estate planning.
 
2020-08-04 1:24:54 AM  

khatores: Billy Liar: They worry about unemployeds getting the extra money and making too much money to work.  They forget that nobody's hiring.

But if people stayed home, fewer people would catch the virus and die. And then how would we ever hit 11k a week? We'd have to try something else, like suspending background checks on guns or just buying a bunch and then driving around and handing them out for free.


But enough about Raz Simone.
 
2020-08-04 1:27:03 AM  

anfrind: [Fark user image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point


I love you foreign bastards but using a decimal point where a comma should exist is practically a capital crime,

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS,

/teehee,
 
2020-08-04 1:27:13 AM  
How many Benghazis is that per week?
 
2020-08-04 1:28:13 AM  

robodog: How many Benghazis is that per week?


At least 3.
 
2020-08-04 1:30:33 AM  
So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/co​v​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"
 
2020-08-04 1:30:36 AM  

pedrop357: I said it in another thread, but now it's looking quite likely that the Swedish approach may have been the right one.


You also tell us that we can't do things like they do because they're 'a homogeneous culture', so youuuuuu're bein' a little discordant again, buddy.
 
2020-08-04 1:33:05 AM  
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And before you go "That can't be real!!" Here is the link:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/s​t​atus/1236778368533700609?lang=en
 
2020-08-04 1:33:27 AM  

Maybe you should drive: I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.


The problem is the disease is so damn contagious and Americans have a horrible libertarian streak combined with a low tolerance for inconvenience and a growing lack of communal empathy.
 
2020-08-04 1:34:33 AM  

Skeleton Man: Maybe you should drive: Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.

I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.

How is being antisocial making any of this worse? Socializing is the only way to spread this damn thing.


I suppose I could have chosen a word that made it more clear, but I was referring to the idiots who insist on going to parties, going to bars, or attending other events without social distancing or masks in order to stick it to the man and show they won't be bound by society's rules.

antisocial

contrary to the laws and customs of society; devoid of or antagonistic to sociable instincts or practices.
 
2020-08-04 1:35:24 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"


Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.
 
2020-08-04 1:35:25 AM  
Remember a few months ago mouth breathing rumpers brought up car accidents and said that is what you should worry about instead? In 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes, an average of 744 per week.

11,000 > 744

I wonder what stat they will use now.
 
2020-08-04 1:36:16 AM  
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2020-08-04 1:38:26 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"


Try reading your graph again... You know the part that says the last couple of weeks do not count all the deaths yet!!!!


You think covid deaths dropped by 95% in the last two weeks?

Look at the weeks before on your graph it says 4000 dead per week!!
 
2020-08-04 1:38:28 AM  

pedrop357: I said it in another thread, but now it's looking quite likely that the Swedish approach may have been the right one.  Their death rate has plummeted to near zero.

They avoided all of the shutdown drama, all the compliance costs, unemployment headaches, isolation problems, etc. and the US (482/mil) may still end up hitting their rate of 580/mil or even surpassing it.


Or you could have gone with the New Zealand model, lock down and take it seriously.  We're over 90 days without community infection.

/Kiwi
 
2020-08-04 1:41:07 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"


Reading is hard:

Things to know about the data
Provisional counts are not final and are subject to change. Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as more records are received and processed.
Provisional data are not yet complete. Counts will not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for more recent periods. However, we can estimate how complete our numbers are by looking at the average number of deaths reported in previous years.


So what you believe is in 2 weeks it dropped by close to 99%???
 
2020-08-04 1:41:15 AM  

MythDragon: Loucifer: In certain older, civilized cultures...

[Fark user image image 850x455]

But Donny doesn't have a sword...


He can't hold a glass of water or walk down a gentle slope, let alone hold a sword.
 
2020-08-04 1:41:26 AM  
Republicans are a Death Cult.
 
2020-08-04 1:47:19 AM  

Theory Of Null: Remember a few months ago mouth breathing rumpers brought up car accidents and said that is what you should worry about instead? In 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes, an average of 744 per week.

11,000 > 744

I wonder what stat they will use now.


Cancer. Oh and child trafficking. Still talking about flu too. "Where'd the flu go, it disappeared like magic!" Uh, just like it always does in the summer, Karen.
 
2020-08-04 1:51:12 AM  

gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.


I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak.
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2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?
 
2020-08-04 1:51:53 AM  
So has the death rate risen above the flu?
 
2020-08-04 1:52:14 AM  
We should rename it Mueller's Disease.
 
2020-08-04 1:53:15 AM  
Republicans: Only about 20 Black people get killed by cops per year!! Who cares!!!

Also Republicans: Protesters and Antifa that kill no one we must do everything to stop!!! Unleash the US military and have fed agents beat up on citizens that didn't even do anything wrong!!!

Also Republicans: 160,000 Americans dead with 1,000 dying every day is nothing we should do anything about!! Who cares!!! Wearing a mask is asking too much!!
 
2020-08-04 1:55:02 AM  

bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)


do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?
 
2020-08-04 1:56:24 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Huh. I wonder what happened on that fateful day in the middle of July where the numbers mysteriously drop?

Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data

Man you're bad at misleading.  Wait at least a month before trying to pull a sneaky on us.

I'm not agreeing that cdc doesn't have valid data, and deaths were expected to drop when this got into the real world.

But, since that's your arguement....


1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that peak. [Fark user image 425x478]

2. What grounds does CBS have to make a declaration on behalf of the CDC that deaths may more than double their peak per week?


From the site:


7/18/2020 4,081

8/1/2020 161

YOU REALLY THINK COVID DEATHS DROPPED 96% IN 2 WEEKS?
 
2020-08-04 1:57:49 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that


That was the peak for ONE AGE GROUP not the count for everyone.

Learn to read a chart!!!!
 
2020-08-04 1:58:57 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that


That was just 85 year olds and over NOT EVERYONE!!
 
2020-08-04 1:59:16 AM  
Can't say he didn't warn us.

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2020-08-04 2:01:17 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.


They also pay taxes and it's also their money.
 
2020-08-04 2:03:07 AM  

puffy999: bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)

do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?


Remember her?  My father-in-law put a Dodge in her garage.
 
2020-08-04 2:03:55 AM  
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2020-08-04 2:04:18 AM  

pedrop357: khatores: Billy Liar: They worry about unemployeds getting the extra money and making too much money to work.  They forget that nobody's hiring.

But if people stayed home, fewer people would catch the virus and die. And then how would we ever hit 11k a week? We'd have to try something else, like suspending background checks on guns or just buying a bunch and then driving around and handing them out for free.

But enough about Raz Simone.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raz_Sim​o​ne#Activism

Well that's a little concerning. I didn't know who this guy was until you mentioned it. Handing out guns in a situation like that is probably not a good idea...protests should strive to be nonviolent.
 
2020-08-04 2:05:31 AM  

gar1013: Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.

It doesn't help that Fark won't greenlight articles like this:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti​cle-8583925/The-land-no-face-masks-Hol​lands-scientists-say-theres-no-solid-e​vidence-coverings-work.html

The Dutch have HALF the death rate of the UK, and it's because they aren't relying on the false sense of security of a piece of cloth that doesn't necessarily do anything.


The Dutch have half the death rate because they initiated draconian lockdowns and social distancing, and 95% of the population obeyed at the outset; hence, they did not need masks. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featur​e​s/2020-06-05/netherlands-coronavirus-l​ockdown-dutch-followed-the-rules

Not because they aren't "relying on the false sense of security" of masks--they used the "false sense of security" of social distancing and lockdowns.
 
2020-08-04 2:07:53 AM  

Brooksider: Can't say he didn't warn us.

[Fark user image 425x388]


I remember that Tweet. I am just shocked I haven't seen it being brought up by House Democrats.. Who was it meant for? What spurred it? Who made it? Find that person. Find out. It's the only clue that substantiates Covid is some kind of conspiracy. (By which I mean it substantiates nothing, but it is too on-point to be dismissed).
 
2020-08-04 2:08:01 AM  
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2020-08-04 2:09:30 AM  
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2020-08-04 2:09:46 AM  

bughunter: puffy999: bughunter: That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)

do you remember a little old lady with white gardenias?

Remember her?  My father-in-law put a Dodge in her garage.


Your father in law got an old lady pregnant?

/wait
 
2020-08-04 2:11:15 AM  
Is it as bad as the Flu yet?
 
2020-08-04 2:15:17 AM  
I am so tired of this idiotic government.  Even if I wanted to take a trip out I couldn't because more and more countries are blocking US citizens from entering their country (and for good reasons unfortunately).
 
2020-08-04 2:15:41 AM  
Orange man bad!!!!

<how was that?>
 
2020-08-04 2:16:39 AM  

rfenster: Orange man bad!!!!

<how was that?>


meh.
 
2020-08-04 2:17:31 AM  

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: 1. The peak is 5,000 per week so even if the administration is hiding 4000 deaths per week, CBS' assertion is more than double that

That was the peak for ONE AGE GROUP not the count for everyone.

Learn to read a chart!!!!


Those are stacked dickbump
 
2020-08-04 2:19:03 AM  

BafflerMeal: rfenster: Orange man bad!!!!

<how was that?>

meh.


Well, I tried...maybe I could try something around 'Covid-19 bad!!!' ???!!!???
 
2020-08-04 2:19:24 AM  

trappedspirit: So has the death rate risen above the flu?


On the low end of the official estimates, we passed that on April 11th, on the high end we passed that on April 29th. So yes.
 
2020-08-04 2:19:32 AM  

Maybe you should drive: Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.

I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.


I do in home care so I've been working through this too. I guess the thing that makes me smh is that people have politicized this to the point of public freak outs and tantrums and assaults 'cause their side/ other side. It's like some weird mash up of European football and The Walking Dead.
 
2020-08-04 2:19:38 AM  

Corvus: fark'emfeed'emfish: So they expect deaths to surge 10 fold?

[Fark user image 425x478]
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/cov​id_weekly/index.htm

Or somebody taking liberties with the phrase "up to?"

Try reading your graph again... You know the part that says the last couple of weeks do not count all the deaths yet!!!!


You think covid deaths dropped by 95% in the last two weeks?

Look at the weeks before on your graph it says 4000 dead per week!!


Fark user imageView Full Size

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/co​v​id_weekly/index.htm
I guess you need to read it again
and quit flipping out. That peak is may.
 
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