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2020-08-04 12:26:35 AM  
Just remember this anger in November.
 
2020-08-04 12:27:01 AM  
Just a liberal hoax.
 
2020-08-04 12:28:10 AM  
I was just released from the hospital in NY (nothing COVID-19 related).  One of the most heart-breaking things I've ever seen was when I asked a nurse for something and said "sorry I'm being so irritable." And she responded saying "At least you have the breath to complain.  I'll take that any day.".
 
2020-08-04 12:29:16 AM  
My thought is this.

Given the average age of people who pass from this (yes I know young can die too), it is primarily hitting the elderly. The people that grandkids forget about. So people are not fully taking it serviously since it isn't close to home yet for a lot.

/sad all round
 
2020-08-04 12:31:40 AM  

pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.


Are California, Texas, Florida, Georgia and Missouri doing that now?
No they aren't and you're pathetic attempts at diverting responsibility from Trump are getting really old.
 
2020-08-04 12:32:25 AM  
That should be terrifying.  Enraging.

If it's not, then you're not paying attention.

(Still from TFA is my hometown.  Pasadena CA.  Intersection of Colorado and Fair Oaks, on the Rose Parade route.  Kinda scary.)
 
2020-08-04 12:33:30 AM  
There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.
 
2020-08-04 12:33:47 AM  

stan unusual: pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.

Are California, Texas, Florida, Georgia and Missouri doing that now?
No they aren't and you're pathetic attempts at diverting responsibility from Trump are getting really old.


No, and their death rate is far lower even now.
 
2020-08-04 12:34:26 AM  

pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.


You should say COVID-19 next.
 
2020-08-04 12:35:14 AM  

whisper in the wind: And Trump takes no responsibility. He should be sent to prison after November.


Put him in the same cell as Hillary.
And put that shiat on 24/7 live stream.
 
2020-08-04 12:35:48 AM  

zerkalo: 11,000, many of whom will die behind plastic sheeting or in a restricted ICU while intubated and sedated. No saying goodbye, no dying on one's own terms, no passing in hospice or at home. Yeah, many of them were coming to the end-of-life but I doubt this would have been the conditions they or their loved ones would have chosen


And that's w/o speaking to the other casualties that won't result in immediate death but will nicely goof one up for the rest of one's life, both qualitatively and quantitatively... oh yes and we're all gonna take it up the a-hole to pay for the ongoing medical and productivity costs of others' legendary, inexcusable stupidity.
 
2020-08-04 12:36:03 AM  
This thread filled with shiat quick
 
2020-08-04 12:36:10 AM  
but it's just like the flu!
 
2020-08-04 12:36:24 AM  

Loucifer: In certain older, civilized cultures...

[Fark user image image 850x455]


But Donny doesn't have a sword...
 
2020-08-04 12:37:44 AM  

pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.


You only know stuff about guns.

That does not mean you know a goddamned thing about anything else, and you keep proving it over and over.
 
2020-08-04 12:37:51 AM  

inner ted: This thread filled with shiat quick


welcometofark.png
 
2020-08-04 12:37:55 AM  

powhound: halifaxdatageek: In the time it took me to find the words to write this, just a couple of minutes, two people will have died from coronavirus in America. Two more by the time I've finished.

Folks that should have had a future. Everyone deserves a future.

Someone on this site described well the feeling Canadians are having right now: You know what's going on in the apartment downstairs right now, you can hear it, everyone can hear it.

But you can't do anything to stop it. You've tried, nothing's worked. It keeps going on, day by day, insinuating itself in your brain, simultaneously terrifying and mocking you for your powerlessness.

And you just have to hope that one day, hopefully soon, it stops.

If you Canadians were smart you would evict your downstairs neighbors.

Sorry, don't know step 2.


We tried burning down their White House, but it didn't take. (Yes I know it was actually the British but that's less funny)
 
2020-08-04 12:38:29 AM  
I said it in another thread, but now it's looking quite likely that the Swedish approach may have been the right one.  Their death rate has plummeted to near zero.

They avoided all of the shutdown drama, all the compliance costs, unemployment headaches, isolation problems, etc. and the US (482/mil) may still end up hitting their rate of 580/mil or even surpassing it.
 
2020-08-04 12:38:29 AM  
This is a great tragedy unfolding in front of us all. Can it really go on with this 'leadership' till january? 250000 dead and no national effort to stop it?

//oh and guys, please don't talk to it. Please.
 
2020-08-04 12:38:59 AM  

gameshowhost: pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.

You only know stuff about guns.

That does not mean you know a goddamned thing about anything else, and you keep proving it over and over.


Hence your intelligent rebuttal.
 
2020-08-04 12:39:42 AM  

gaspode: This is a great tragedy unfolding in front of us all. Can it really go on with this 'leadership' till january? 250000 dead and no national effort to stop it?

//oh and guys, please don't talk to it. Please.


I guess all the cure research, state aid, guidelines, etc. doesn't count as a national effort?
 
2020-08-04 12:40:46 AM  
How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?
 
2020-08-04 12:43:58 AM  

RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?


Soon I hope.
 
2020-08-04 12:44:08 AM  
ZING!!1!
 
2020-08-04 12:44:14 AM  

powhound: halifaxdatageek: In the time it took me to find the words to write this, just a couple of minutes, two people will have died from coronavirus in America. Two more by the time I've finished.

Folks that should have had a future. Everyone deserves a future.

Someone on this site described well the feeling Canadians are having right now: You know what's going on in the apartment downstairs right now, you can hear it, everyone can hear it.

But you can't do anything to stop it. You've tried, nothing's worked. It keeps going on, day by day, insinuating itself in your brain, simultaneously terrifying and mocking you for your powerlessness.

And you just have to hope that one day, hopefully soon, it stops.

If you Canadians were smart you would evict your downstairs neighbors.

Sorry, don't know step 2.


Step 2 is to take control of the vacated space.
Step 3 is obviously, profit.
 
2020-08-04 12:45:04 AM  
trump* is the biggest biological terrorist on earth. He should be dealt with as such. And every person that helped him along the way and those who did their damnedest to keep him in power should be treated as co-conspirators.No death penalty. Prison. For the rest of their lives. So they can have years of misery and pain.
 
2020-08-04 12:45:06 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.


The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes
 
2020-08-04 12:45:43 AM  
It's also looking like the daily cases in FL, AZ, and TX might be on their way down, so it looks like many farkers are not going to get the red state death toll they were predicting (or hoping for).
 
2020-08-04 12:46:12 AM  
Thanks Anti-Obama
 
2020-08-04 12:46:14 AM  

I-K-Rumba: trump* is the biggest biological terrorist on earth. He should be dealt with as such. And every person that helped him along the way and those who did their damnedest to keep him in power should be treated as co-conspirators.No death penalty. Prison. For the rest of their lives. So they can have years of misery and pain.


Not the Chinese?
 
2020-08-04 12:48:29 AM  

MythDragon: whisper in the wind: And Trump takes no responsibility. He should be sent to prison after November.

Put him in the same cell as Hillary.
And put that shiat on 24/7 live stream.


Are you kidding? He'd be dead in the first 2 minutes.

Gotta be Pay-Per-View.
 
2020-08-04 12:48:48 AM  

AsparagusFTW: My thought is this.

Given the average age of people who pass from this (yes I know young can die too), it is primarily hitting the elderly. The people that grandkids forget about. So people are not fully taking it serviously since it isn't close to home yet for a lot.

/sad all round


My mother (70 years old, btw) was complaining to me back in March that everyone who dies from Covid is having Covid listed as their cause of death, no matter how terrible their health was.  She mentioned her mother, who died a couple years earlier at 95ish and had been in terrible health for decades but somehow managed to live so long.  Her argument was that if her mom had died of Covid they would have listed her cause of death as Covid even though she was bed-ridden and had had no quality of life for at least 30 years.

I told her, "Mom, but if someone had broken into grandma's room with a hatchet and clubbed her over the head, should they not have considered that death a murder just because she was in bad health?'

Crickets...
 
2020-08-04 12:50:55 AM  

gameshowhost: but it's just like the flu!


When did we pass the amount of people that die from flu yearly?  Seriously.
 
2020-08-04 12:51:08 AM  
I'm a glass half-full kinda guy.  (Roughly) Five months, 150,000 dead.  That's only 1,000 people a day.
Isn't that much better?
 
2020-08-04 12:51:42 AM  
The worst airline disaster in history was a collision between two Boeing 747s at Tenerife Spain that killed 585 people. Two disasters of that magnitude a day for every day of the week wouldn't be enough to match the expected Coronavirus death toll in the US this month.

US military casualties in WWI including combat deaths and those due to disease, accident were 116k. The US involvement lasted 20 months which averages out to 5,800 deaths per month, so we're going to nearly double that every week.
 
2020-08-04 12:53:47 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Belgium, UK, Spain, Peru, Italy, Sweden, Chile, France, and Brazil all have greater, or near identical, per capita death rates.

Now, I'm not saying the US doesn't suck, but this attitude that everyone else in the world did better, and that everyone else is looking at the US disapprovingly, seems unsupported by actual numbers.

Also, some other countries mentioned, like India, have done 15k tests per million, while the US has done more than ten times that, per capita. If you think that difference in testing doesn't impact the the numbers, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The US sucks enough that we can just be honest about the level of suck without misrepresenting the data we do have.


It doesn't help that Fark won't greenlight articles like this:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art​ic​le-8583925/The-land-no-face-masks-Holl​ands-scientists-say-theres-no-solid-ev​idence-coverings-work.html

The Dutch have HALF the death rate of the UK, and it's because they aren't relying on the false sense of security of a piece of cloth that doesn't necessarily do anything.
 
2020-08-04 12:54:01 AM  

jjorsett: King Something: 'Murica.

In confirmed deaths per million, the following countries are higher than the US: Belgium, UK, Peru, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Chile. France and Brazil are just behind us.


But we're #7 with a bullet.
 
2020-08-04 12:55:15 AM  

pedrop357: I-K-Rumba: trump* is the biggest biological terrorist on earth. He should be dealt with as such. And every person that helped him along the way and those who did their damnedest to keep him in power should be treated as co-conspirators.No death penalty. Prison. For the rest of their lives. So they can have years of misery and pain.

Not the Chinese?


Nope.
-Virus that started in China... Trumps fault.
-Global warming... Trump
-Unemployment high because of social distancing regulations and non-essential people being out of work..Trump
-WW2 Holocaust... Trump
-Kitchen sink clogged, you bet your ass it was Trumps fault.
-Catwoman with Hallie Berry.. Yep Trump
 
2020-08-04 12:55:34 AM  

pedrop357: gameshowhost: pedrop357: There seems to be this delusion here that the US would have had South Korea levels of death if only the right person had been in charge; never mind that SK's exposure vectors were known and far fewer than the US, that the US doesn't allow the government to (at least openly) gobble up all cell phone data to do contact tracing, OR that the US is actually a nation of states with most of the power necessary to address the problem.

But, but, but Trump mocked the virus.  He said some of the same things that the media and numerous Democratic politicians did.  If only he had spoken in more somber tones about it, then the governors of states like NY, NJ, CT, PA, etc. would not have required nursing homes to admit infect patients, causing tens of thousands of deaths.  If only he hadn't been optimistic based on what was known at the time, NY state and NYC city officials would not have advised people to just carry on as normal and to go to parades and movie theaters and ignore quarantine rules in other states.

You only know stuff about guns.

That does not mean you know a goddamned thing about anything else, and you keep proving it over and over.

Hence your intelligent rebuttal.


Hence you just played yourself, bro.
 
2020-08-04 12:55:39 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: These numbers don't seem right to me. I feel they're a bit too optimistic.


They are off. Too high. That or they are flat out fudging numbers. We went from 60k+ to 47k new cases. Sort of a big drop. Deaths halved.

I think they said high while counting low.
 
2020-08-04 12:56:51 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: pedrop357: anfrind: [Fark user image image 850x544]

/a bit out of date at this point

He didn't make the decision to send infected into nursing homes.

You should say COVID-19 next.


Wow, what dumb filter is going on? I tried to say the name of the Chinese city and the flu.
 
2020-08-04 12:58:03 AM  

waxbeans: gameshowhost: but it's just like the flu!

When did we pass the amount of people that die from flu yearly?  Seriously.


I dunno but the rate has been way the hell higher even after we've come way down from ~4% to ~1%. It's merely a whole lot worse than the flu (and the long term effects make it incomparable) now that it was a super whole lot worse before.
 
2020-08-04 12:58:20 AM  
*than, not that

dammit
 
2020-08-04 12:58:45 AM  

inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes


Oh I'm not volunteering. I wear a mask in public. I Isolate at home. I'm just watching the slow motion train wreck from my living room and hoping it doesn't come crashing through my wall today.
 
2020-08-04 12:59:10 AM  

pedrop357: I said it in another thread, but now it's looking quite likely that the Swedish approach may have been the right one.  Their death rate has plummeted to near zero.

They avoided all of the shutdown drama, all the compliance costs, unemployment headaches, isolation problems, etc. and the US (482/mil) may still end up hitting their rate of 580/mil or even surpassing it.


dig up, stupid.
 
2020-08-04 1:02:41 AM  

inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes


Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.
 
2020-08-04 1:06:21 AM  

ansius: How people in other countries see what's happening in the US.

7-mins. Starts with a fairly light-hearted tone as you laugh at some of the stupid things that Trump says, but it ends with an oomph.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/kwkvTBgT​O7A]


Well, that was a depressing watch.

People in other counties care about Americans dying more than our own countrymen/women care about each other dying.

But hey, the stock market is doing great, so everything must be fine.

Schools opening back up soon, good time to invest in coffins and freezer trucks.
 
2020-08-04 1:11:16 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: inner ted: Random Anonymous Blackmail: RedVentrue: How long until we're back down to 6 billion world wide?

Soon I hope.

The line for volunteers is -->
let us know how it goes

Been to 9 different states since March via airlines and automobile because of work.  Some of us are essential.

Someone has to pay for people to sit home in a corner and piss themselves every time something scary happens.  That free COVID-Bux ins't free, it comes from hard working American tax dollars.


I also haven't missed a minute of work since this started.  If anything, I'm working more.  What people seem to miss, though, is this shouldn't be a choice between pissing yourself out of fear in a corner and being a complete antisocial who makes the problem worse.  It should be completely acceptable, encouraged even, do go about the essential activities that have to be done, but take extra precautions. In this day and age, though, it seems a larger and larger percentage of people want to end up on either end of the spectrum.
 
2020-08-04 1:13:02 AM  
The worst month for US deaths due to the Spanish Flu pandemic was in October 1918 killing 195k.  That was before there were antibiotics to treat secondary infections, ventilators and a host of other advances in modern medicine and we still may break that record if Trump's wishful thinking and bullshiat is allowed to dictate our public health response to the Coronavirus pandemic.
 
2020-08-04 1:17:12 AM  
They worry about unemployeds getting the extra money and making too much money to work.  They forget that nobody's hiring.
 
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