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(Texas Tribune)   Fark-ready headline: Texas lifts tampon ban at bar exam after complaints over discriminatory policy   (texastribune.org) divider line
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2020-08-03 3:32:39 PM  
That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?
 
2020-08-03 3:41:40 PM  
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2020-08-03 3:42:49 PM  
It was messy, but they managed to pull a few strings and got the ban stopped, period.
 
2020-08-03 3:50:26 PM  

Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?


And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...
 
2020-08-03 4:01:49 PM  

Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?


Jesus.
 
2020-08-03 4:34:58 PM  

Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?


Because within the bar, women are usually relatively powerless.

And bar applicants are terrified of taking a wrong step  because law jobs are so scarce.
 
2020-08-03 4:36:37 PM  
Seriously, if women can sneak in enough information in a tampon to make a difference in their bar exam, they should get a passing grade on that alone.

I feel bad for women in this. When it happens all they want to do is manage it and keep on going with their day. It creates yet more annoyances that interrupt what they are doing than anything else.
 
2020-08-03 4:49:29 PM  
This is very surprising. Texas requires a bar exam before giving someone a license to practice law?
 
2020-08-03 4:50:30 PM  

ChrisDe: This is very surprising. Texas requires a bar exam before giving someone a license to practice law?


It's to keep Black, Brown, and women out.
(Texan)
 
2020-08-03 4:51:26 PM  
Seriously...What the fark is wrong with Texas?
 
2020-08-03 4:53:04 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?

Jesus.


As with all things Conservative, the cruelty is the point.
 
2020-08-03 4:53:08 PM  
Cue the Bellamy Brothers "Let Your Blood Flow" on the jukebox
 
2020-08-03 4:54:52 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?

And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...


They're Ferengi?
 
2020-08-03 4:55:12 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...


If you think using the word "female" to refer to someone that's female is "creepy" it probably says more about you than her
 
2020-08-03 4:56:44 PM  

Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?


Free products were provided once they were through security.

It was a standard policy designed to cut down on cheating.

The bar in most states is very strict.  You can carry ONE key, ONE car fob, ONE id card, and maybe one or two pens, unless those are provided to you as well.

Cigarettes and a lighter?  TS, you better stash those somewhere outside.
 
2020-08-03 4:56:45 PM  
about bloody time.
 
2020-08-03 4:57:18 PM  
When I served on a TX State bar committee I feared being volunteered to be a wang crib-note bathroom proctor. That's a real thing. Lawyers watching test takers while they leave a pee. Got lucky and never served the role. Good on the ladies for such progress in 2020, though!
 
2020-08-03 4:59:53 PM  
Old and busted: "Go Texas!" New hotness: "Kotexes!"

/self-reported
 
2020-08-03 5:00:25 PM  
"While the restriction on permitted items may sound extreme, test administrators have discovered smartphones and study materials "secreted by applicants,"

The applicants can secrete smartphones and study materials? Maybe they should open an online store.
 
2020-08-03 5:01:30 PM  

mybluemake: When I served on a TX State bar committee I feared being volunteered to be a wang crib-note bathroom proctor. That's a real thing. Lawyers watching test takers while they leave a pee. Got lucky and never served the role. Good on the ladies for such progress in 2020, though!


Meh...that was just every Navy urinalysis test.  Had to have an officer or a chief observe the guys pissing into cups.
 
2020-08-03 5:02:59 PM  
I thought the texas bar exam was this picture?  Turns out it was a meme???  life doesn't make sense any more:
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2020-08-03 5:06:22 PM  
I knew lawyers were douchebags, but come on!
 
2020-08-03 5:07:21 PM  

IHadMeAVision: ShavedOrangutan: And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

If you think using the word "female" to refer to someone that's female is "creepy" it probably says more about you than her


Only referring to people by their gender is creepy.  They're women.  What purpose does it serve to refer to them using the scientific term?

It's like casually calling a group of people humans.  i.e. "All the humans in the movie theater enjoyed the movie". Is there a specific reason you need to clarify that they're human?
 
2020-08-03 5:08:03 PM  
CSB: When I took the bar exam years ago, you were allowed to bring a clear ziploc bag with certain specified stuff in it, like your car keys and ID. The rules were clear that aside from that bag and your laptop, nothing else was allowed inside the testing center. Nonetheless, a lot of people showed up with purses, wallets, etc., and tried to leave them up front with the security screeners. Shortly before the exam begins, and after giving a bunch of general instructions, the head proctor announces "also, your wallets and purses are all on the curb outside".

/CSB
 
2020-08-03 5:08:14 PM  

Don Gato: I knew lawyers were douchebags, but come on!


No, the douches and enemas are still banned.
 
2020-08-03 5:12:36 PM  
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2020-08-03 5:14:01 PM  
I've always found the "ban/tax on tampon = discriminatory" thing kind of odd. In this case, pretty much everything was banned, for everyone. In the tax case, it was everything was taxed, not just tampons.

So it's not really a policy against tampons, but the lack of an exemption for them. The rules are the same for both sexes, so it's not really discriminatory. But women require these products and men don't. So it is discriminatory. But allowing an exception for women but not men is discriminatory... gah.
 
2020-08-03 5:15:21 PM  
It's useless to try to explain that the Board of Law Examiners is a pile of idiots. It was when I took the Texas Bar Exam about 40 years ago and apparently it still is.
 
2020-08-03 5:16:21 PM  

IHadMeAVision: ShavedOrangutan: And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

If you think using the word "female" to refer to someone that's female is "creepy" it probably says more about you than her


Clearly you haven't read enough Jezebel/XOX Jane
 
2020-08-03 5:17:18 PM  

mybluemake: When I served on a TX State bar committee I feared being volunteered to be a wang crib-note bathroom proctor. That's a real thing. Lawyers watching test takers while they leave a pee. Got lucky and never served the role. Good on the ladies for such progress in 2020, though!


Are you saying they're afraid people would write stuff on their penis? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
2020-08-03 5:19:12 PM  

LewDux: [Fark user image 299x395]


I eat there all the time
 
2020-08-03 5:20:08 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: IHadMeAVision: ShavedOrangutan: And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

If you think using the word "female" to refer to someone that's female is "creepy" it probably says more about you than her

Only referring to people by their gender is creepy.  They're women.  What purpose does it serve to refer to them using the scientific term?

It's like casually calling a group of people humans.  i.e. "All the humans in the movie theater enjoyed the movie". Is there a specific reason you need to clarify that they're human?


Yes humans suck
so  you do have to point out that humans suck
humanity sucks
human beings suck

A lion eating my guts and lower intestine is more respectable than most humans
 
2020-08-03 5:21:07 PM  

El_Dan: CSB: When I took the bar exam years ago, you were allowed to bring a clear ziploc bag with certain specified stuff in it, like your car keys and ID. The rules were clear that aside from that bag and your laptop, nothing else was allowed inside the testing center. Nonetheless, a lot of people showed up with purses, wallets, etc., and tried to leave them up front with the security screeners. Shortly before the exam begins, and after giving a bunch of general instructions, the head proctor announces "also, your wallets and purses are all on the curb outside".

/CSB


You mean to tell me would be lawyers did not understand the devil is in the details I hope those people failed
 
2020-08-03 5:22:24 PM  

trialpha: I've always found the "ban/tax on tampon = discriminatory" thing kind of odd. In this case, pretty much everything was banned, for everyone. In the tax case, it was everything was taxed, not just tampons.

So it's not really a policy against tampons, but the lack of an exemption for them. The rules are the same for both sexes, so it's not really discriminatory. But women require these products and men don't. So it is discriminatory. But allowing an exception for women but not men is discriminatory... gah.


Sorry. No.
End of story
 
2020-08-03 5:22:24 PM  

IHadMeAVision: ShavedOrangutan: And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

If you think using the word "female" to refer to someone that's female is "creepy" it probably says more about you than her


It always bugs me when people refer to 'women doctors/lawyers/whatever' or how we could have the first 'woman president' someday. Would you say 'men doctors' or 'man president'?
 
2020-08-03 5:22:41 PM  

trialpha: I've always found the "ban/tax on tampon = discriminatory" thing kind of odd. In this case, pretty much everything was banned, for everyone. In the tax case, it was everything was taxed, not just tampons.

So it's not really a policy against tampons, but the lack of an exemption for them. The rules are the same for both sexes, so it's not really discriminatory. But women require these products and men don't. So it is discriminatory. But allowing an exception for women but not men is discriminatory... gah.


I am sure any men having their period will be allowed the same leeway.
 
2020-08-03 5:23:47 PM  
The article reminds me of a cute little story... Some years ago my gf and I were visiting her sister and she was using the bathroom when she noticed the need for a tampon. She asked her little 4/5 year old son to fetch her a tampon from the bedroom. He dutifully ran into the bedroom and came racing back into the bathroom, holding a fresh tampon in his hand. As he was handing it to his Mom, he excitedly announced in a very loud voice: "Up the bum mommy!", for all the world to hear.
 
2020-08-03 5:23:55 PM  

Dangerous_sociopath: LewDux: [Fark user image 299x395]

I eat there all the time


I hear the bearded clam chowder is amazing.
 
2020-08-03 5:25:15 PM  
"If menstrual products are allowed into a large exam room for the February test, they would need to be removed from the paper or plastic packaging and placed in clear plastic bags for inspection, Henricks said."

JFC
They have to unwrap sanitary products and present them for inspection. Do they have to present the used ones when their done? Just to be sure they aren't leaving any notes behind?
 
2020-08-03 5:26:53 PM  
I missed the word "exam" in the headline and was very curious about what the hell goes on in Texas bars.
 
2020-08-03 5:28:59 PM  

El_Dan: CSB: When I took the bar exam years ago, you were allowed to bring a clear ziploc bag with certain specified stuff in it, like your car keys and ID. The rules were clear that aside from that bag and your laptop, nothing else was allowed inside the testing center. Nonetheless, a lot of people showed up with purses, wallets, etc., and tried to leave them up front with the security screeners. Shortly before the exam begins, and after giving a bunch of general instructions, the head proctor announces "also, your wallets and purses are all on the curb outside".

/CSB


These draconian measures are necessary because of the insane amount of cheating that goes on at bar exams. One year, the CA bar exam at one location banned bathroom breaks entirely because some fool had written notes on the wall of a stall; there was no way of knowing who or when, so bathrooms were shut down for the remainder of the exam. That was my 2L year, I believe, and there were stories of desperate exam takers peeing in water bottles.
 
2020-08-03 5:29:17 PM  

El_Dan: CSB: When I took the bar exam years ago, you were allowed to bring a clear ziploc bag with certain specified stuff in it, like your car keys and ID. The rules were clear that aside from that bag and your laptop, nothing else was allowed inside the testing center. Nonetheless, a lot of people showed up with purses, wallets, etc., and tried to leave them up front with the security screeners. Shortly before the exam begins, and after giving a bunch of general instructions, the head proctor announces "also, your wallets and purses are all on the curb outside".

/CSB


They really have these kind of restrictions and then let you have a laptop?  WTF?
 
2020-08-03 5:31:19 PM  

Loris: "If menstrual products are allowed into a large exam room for the February test, they would need to be removed from the paper or plastic packaging and placed in clear plastic bags for inspection, Henricks said."

JFC
They have to unwrap sanitary products and present them for inspection. Do they have to present the used ones when their done? Just to be sure they aren't leaving any notes behind?


Wait.
So their contention is someone is too stupid to pass the test, wants to be a lawyer?
So, their saying people must have cheated in the past?
Are they making people requalify?
 
2020-08-03 5:31:20 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?

And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...


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Also,
"The conference does have restrictions on what test takers can bring to the exam primarily for security reasons, she said. Ear plugs and cellphones are among the prohibited items; menstrual products are not."

Ear plugs?
 
2020-08-03 5:31:24 PM  

El_Dan: CSB: When I took the bar exam years ago, you were allowed to bring a clear ziploc bag with certain specified stuff in it, like your car keys and ID. The rules were clear that aside from that bag and your laptop, nothing else was allowed inside the testing center. Nonetheless, a lot of people showed up with purses, wallets, etc., and tried to leave them up front with the security screeners. Shortly before the exam begins, and after giving a bunch of general instructions, the head proctor announces "also, your wallets and purses are all on the curb outside".

/CSB


I have a similar story.  When I showed up to take the bar exam, I asked the Proctor to hold it for me during the test.  I told him, "there's a $100 in that wallet..... or maybe there's not?"

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2020-08-03 5:35:37 PM  
Wait until the Texas Supreme Court finds about about the Red Mass.
 
2020-08-03 5:35:53 PM  

fiddlehead: ShavedOrangutan: Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?

And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

[Fark user image 259x194]

Also,
"The conference does have restrictions on what test takers can bring to the exam primarily for security reasons, she said. Ear plugs and cellphones are among the prohibited items; menstrual products are not."

Ear plugs?


Well then I hope they ban gum chewing, because if I am trying to take an exam and have to listen to some cow chew its cud I get stabby real fast.
 
2020-08-03 5:37:16 PM  

fiddlehead: ShavedOrangutan: Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?

And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

[Fark user image 259x194]

Also,
"The conference does have restrictions on what test takers can bring to the exam primarily for security reasons, she said. Ear plugs and cellphones are among the prohibited items; menstrual products are not."

Ear plugs?


Dude, read some articles about chinese students cheating at, well, anything.  They've elevated it all to an absurd level.  Yes, foam ear plugs can have tiny blue tooth transmitters inside of them.

Oh man, wait until you find out the ridiculous hoops you have to jump through just to prove your appearance.
 
2020-08-03 5:38:59 PM  

fiddlehead: ShavedOrangutan: Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?

And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

[Fark user image 259x194]

Also,
"The conference does have restrictions on what test takers can bring to the exam primarily for security reasons, she said. Ear plugs and cellphones are among the prohibited items; menstrual products are not."

Ear plugs?


I've taken a number of tests that only allow ear plugs the testing center provides.  It's definitely a cheating thing.  How?  No idea.
 
2020-08-03 5:39:21 PM  

RussianPotato: fiddlehead: ShavedOrangutan: Lambskincoat: That is some really sexist stuff. Why do conservative women allow crazy shiat like that?

And why do people who act like this always, without fail, refer to women as "females"?

/It's creepy as hell...

[Fark user image 259x194]

Also,
"The conference does have restrictions on what test takers can bring to the exam primarily for security reasons, she said. Ear plugs and cellphones are among the prohibited items; menstrual products are not."

Ear plugs?

Dude, read some articles about chinese students cheating at, well, anything.  They've elevated it all to an absurd level.  Yes, foam ear plugs can have tiny blue tooth transmitters inside of them.

Oh man, wait until you find out the ridiculous hoops you have to jump through just to prove your appearance.


Birthmark screening?
 
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