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2020-08-03 3:00:38 PM  
Your state CDC, city/town health department and it wouldn't hurt to file a non emergency ( no 911) complaint with the local PD.
 
2020-08-03 3:01:17 PM  
Local board of health
 
2020-08-03 3:04:26 PM  
Out yourself Subby so we can look up the relevant rules, regulations, and laws for your state.
 
2020-08-03 3:09:23 PM  
Well, that 'third party' kinda thing is kinda odd.
I mean like EVERYONE has probably come in contact with a friend of a friend who has tested pos for CV19.
 
2020-08-03 3:10:46 PM  
How are you so involved in other people's business subby?
 
2020-08-03 3:11:21 PM  
Demand to speak to the manager.
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2020-08-03 3:13:20 PM  

feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?


Assuming he lives in the community, it is his business.
 
2020-08-03 3:14:16 PM  
I got a coupon for a free PapaJohns pizza because the last time they couldn't find the place.
I didn't ask it was just late...But hey free pizza. I hope they didn't fire the guy tho, I didn't complain. It was just automagical 'free pizza' coupon because it was late. They're pretty serious about pizza tracking.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2020-08-03 3:19:18 PM  
Twitter.
Unless it's a Bob Evans. Then, who cares?
 
2020-08-03 3:20:22 PM  

feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?


Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g
 
2020-08-03 3:22:07 PM  
The employees should be the ones reporting something like that if they really are being pressured to work sick etc, but in general you gotta assume everyone is a disease vector.
 
2020-08-03 3:22:51 PM  

KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g


So subby stalks restaurant staff?
 
2020-08-03 3:27:44 PM  

feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?


I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.
 
2020-08-03 3:39:35 PM  

KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.


So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.
 
2020-08-03 3:40:53 PM  

feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.

So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.


Thank you, Simone.
 
2020-08-03 3:41:43 PM  
Totes health department.
 
2020-08-03 3:48:00 PM  

feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.

So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.


Seems like that is the whole point of contact tracing. Find people that have come into contact with those that have tested positive.

Report it, the health department can make a decision.
 
2020-08-03 3:49:19 PM  

feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.

So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.


YES.

If the health department people say they need to speak with someone with first-hand knowledge of the situation, then subby can ask the employee to make the call.
 
2020-08-03 3:56:48 PM  
 
2020-08-03 3:57:34 PM  
An arsonist?
 
2020-08-03 4:07:37 PM  
More What Ohio Says
Defines "Close Contact" and when you should quarantine.
 
2020-08-03 4:11:14 PM  
There are 5 restaurants within walking distance of my house.  4 have been shut at some point because of a positive test among the staff and 1 just closed for several days for a "deep cleaning."  Yeah, we know someone got sick, dude.   Who are you fooling.
 
2020-08-03 4:15:21 PM  
Yelp?
 
2020-08-03 4:18:38 PM  

feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.

So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.


That's how they shut down that sandwich place with the rodent infestation. This is no different.
 
2020-08-03 4:19:23 PM  
People are going to restaurants?

Really?

Last restaurant I went to and sat down in was in 2019. The next one will be...never.

Y'all nuts.
 
2020-08-03 4:21:16 PM  
So Subby is asking if I know of a restaurant....Who should HE report them to?
I can't help you.  I don't know of any such restaurant.
 
2020-08-03 4:26:47 PM  

feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.

So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.


Call your local ACTIONEWS station - they'll jump all over it.
 
2020-08-03 4:59:28 PM  

Billy Liar: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.

So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.

Call your local ACTIONEWS station - they'll jump all over it.


Maybe, maybe not.  For me, every night is this:

It's time for your six o'clock "I'm Witless News"

Today, we lead off with the same story as we do every day...somebody got shot today!

That's right, 19 million or so people live in Greater Los Angeles, and, every single day, at least one of them shot another one!

Usually more than one!

So, let's cut to a cop talking about the shooting:

[cop talking about the shooting]

Then, let's cut to the grieving widow/mother of the victim:

[shot of crying widow/mother]

Then, let's cut to a reporter standing around in the middle of street:

[shot of reporter standing in the middle of the street with a cop car and crime tape behind him/her]

Hi, I am going to give you details of this shooting which you really don't care about unless you were the shooter or the shootee!

[repeat all of the above times 3]

Hi, I'm Pittsburgh Precipitation!  It's summer in Southern California, so it'll be sunny and hot!

Hi, I'm the sports reporter with some sports scores!

Hi, I'm the entertainment reporter kissing some celebrities' buttcheeks!

That's all we have time for tonight!  Thanks for watching I'm Witless News!

/or is that just me?
 
2020-08-03 5:11:16 PM  
Board of Health, locally. You could also involve the state if the local isn't on top of their game.

feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?


It's amazing to think that sometimes folks IN communities are often actually INVOLVED in those communities, and care about the health and well being of their neighbors. I know, it's a shocking concept, but think of it this way: what if YOU knew that someone was employing illegal labor? Would YOU report such a thing, or would you "mind your own business"? And would you come down on someone for doing so?

Seriously, dude: you used to have half a brain in that head, and in the last couple of years, you've decided to come down on the Stoopid end of damn near every discussion. Are you OK? Do you smell toast?
 
2020-08-03 5:15:59 PM  
Headline starts asking a question of "you", finishes with "I".

/If you get angry, who do I punch?
 
2020-08-03 5:19:08 PM  
I live in a town of 17,000 people in a province of 1.25m. As of July 13 we hadn't had a case yet in July, and we're down to one active case. Yesterday we had an increase of 18 cases, and after today we're up to 97 active. We had two restaurants in town that each had a part time employee test positive. Both shut down Saturday afternoon the second they found out (literally asked people to leave that had already ordered or were still eating). Three other restaurants in town have now shut down today, not because they had someone with a positive test, but because they were seeing customers from the other two places showing up and wanted nothing to do with that shiat. We've also had two other major businesses in town that had positive tests from employees this weekend, and both are closed until after they complete a major deep clean. I'm curious to see how many people in town are going to be wearing masks this week now, since last week it was still hardly anyone. I'm hoping we go back to taking this seriously again, since people were almost all back to their old ways two weeks ago.
 
2020-08-03 5:26:54 PM  

optikeye: I got a coupon for a free PapaJohns pizza because the last time they couldn't find the place.
I didn't ask it was just late...But hey free pizza. I hope they didn't fire the guy tho, I didn't complain. It was just automagical 'free pizza' coupon because it was late. They're pretty serious about pizza tracking.


Former PJs mgr here: If you got a coupon it's because it left the store after 25 minutes. PROFIT (their system) tracks all that and auto-generates the coupon to either be mailed or emailed. Dude/dudette didn't get fired.
 
2020-08-03 6:27:51 PM  

KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: KungFuJunkie: feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

Isn't there a way for us to unify our communities, if you see something say something?

www.dhs.gov.see-something-say-somethin​g

So subby stalks restaurant staff?

I'm sure that's it and there is no way he could have a friend or two that work at the restaurant.

We aren't all as blessed as you are to have so many friends.

So you want the health department to start an investigation based on information subby heard from some friend of his who works at a restaurant who heard that the owner is making sick people work.

I don't think that will be very productive.

Seems like that is the whole point of contact tracing. Find people that have come into contact with those that have tested positive.

Report it, the health department can make a decision.


Yes, I'm sure the health department can make that decision. In the interim why not simply not dine there?
 
2020-08-03 6:33:30 PM  

hubiestubert: Board of Health, locally. You could also involve the state if the local isn't on top of their game.

feckingmorons: How are you so involved in other people's business subby?

It's amazing to think that sometimes folks IN communities are often actually INVOLVED in those communities, and care about the health and well being of their neighbors. I know, it's a shocking concept, but think of it this way: what if YOU knew that someone was employing illegal labor? Would YOU report such a thing, or would you "mind your own business"? And would you come down on someone for doing so?

Seriously, dude: you used to have half a brain in that head, and in the last couple of years, you've decided to come down on the Stoopid end of damn near every discussion. Are you OK? Do you smell toast?


Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I had a grilled cheese for lunch and a fresh sliced tomato and a pear, so I almost smelled toast. I made it on the mini George Foreman which makes a dandy grilled cheese.
 
2020-08-03 8:24:58 PM  

feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.


I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'
 
2020-08-03 11:58:47 PM  

Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'


We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.
 
2020-08-04 12:23:28 AM  
Probably not to a bunch of random anonymous farkers on the message boards of a news aggregation site.

/just sayin'
 
2020-08-04 1:27:11 AM  

feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'

We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.


The entire purpose of calling is to start an investigation and determine credibility.  If someone calls about rats, and the place has a history of failing inspections, you might want to follow up.

An investigation isn't a raid, and while it might not be urgent, it should be followed up.
 
2020-08-04 1:46:47 AM  

Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'

We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.

The entire purpose of calling is to start an investigation and determine credibility.  If someone calls about rats, and the place has a history of failing inspections, you might want to follow up.

An investigation isn't a raid, and while it might not be urgent, it should be followed up.


The health department isn't the police department. They don't want tips on possible tuna shiatting.
 
2020-08-04 1:49:11 AM  
It is interesting to see how your personal views change things. The huge majority of people here hate the police and won't call them if someone was murdering their neighbor. However, if someone sneezed next to a guy that works at Burger King a week ago .... get the CSI team on it now!

Hypocrites.
 
2020-08-04 8:21:31 AM  

feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'

We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.

The entire purpose of calling is to start an investigation and determine credibility.  If someone calls about rats, and the place has a history of failing inspections, you might want to follow up.

An investigation isn't a raid, and while it might not be urgent, it should be followed up.

The health department isn't the police department. They don't want tips on possible tuna shiatting.


Every single restaurant and food truck in NYC has a health dept grade and a link to the health dept to review or report violations.
 
2020-08-04 8:25:33 AM  

feckingmorons: It is interesting to see how your personal views change things. The huge majority of people here hate the police and won't call them if someone was murdering their neighbor. However, if someone sneezed next to a guy that works at Burger King a week ago .... get the CSI team on it now!

Hypocrites.


So much for "The health department isn't the police department" that you literally just wrote before this.
 
2020-08-04 8:39:42 AM  

feckingmorons: It is interesting to see how your personal views change things. The huge majority of people here hate the police and won't call them if someone was murdering their neighbor. However, if someone sneezed next to a guy that works at Burger King a week ago .... get the CSI team on it now!

Hypocrites.


It is interesting to see how your personal views change things.  The huge majority of people here hate the police and won't call them if someone was murdering their neighbor.  However, if one building burns down... get the fire inspector CSI team on it now!

It is interesting to see how your personal views change things.  The huge majority of people here hate the police and won't call them if someone was murdering their neighbor.  However, if one construction site floods the neighborhood... get the building inspector CSI team on it now!
 
2020-08-04 2:39:59 PM  

Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'

We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.

The entire purpose of calling is to start an investigation and determine credibility.  If someone calls about rats, and the place has a history of failing inspections, you might want to follow up.

An investigation isn't a raid, and while it might not be urgent, it should be followed up.

The health department isn't the police department. They don't want tips on possible tuna shiatting.

Every single restaurant and food truck in NYC has a health dept grade and a link to the health dept to review or report violations.


Every single ambulance has a 911 decal, but you still don't call it if your friend's sister in Far Rockaway has a paper cut.
 
2020-08-04 3:18:54 PM  

feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'

We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.

The entire purpose of calling is to start an investigation and determine credibility.  If someone calls about rats, and the place has a history of failing inspections, you might want to follow up.

An investigation isn't a raid, and while it might not be urgent, it should be followed up.

The health department isn't the police department. They don't want tips on possible tuna shiatting.

Every single restaurant and food truck in NYC has a health dept grade and a link to the health dept to review or report violations.

Every single ambulance has a 911 decal, but you still don't call it if your friend's sister in Far Rockaway has a paper cut.


Seriously? You're equating calling emergency services with calling a health department tip line?
 
2020-08-04 5:05:07 PM  

Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'

We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.

The entire purpose of calling is to start an investigation and determine credibility.  If someone calls about rats, and the place has a history of failing inspections, you might want to follow up.

An investigation isn't a raid, and while it might not be urgent, it should be followed up.

The health department isn't the police department. They don't want tips on possible tuna shiatting.

Every single restaurant and food truck in NYC has a health dept grade and a link to the health dept to review or report violations.

Every single ambulance has a 911 decal, but you still don't call it if your friend's sist ...


Do you think people who have second or third hand information should be calling the health department?
 
2020-08-04 6:04:56 PM  

feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: feckingmorons: Would you drop a dime, or would you just not eat there? Really, those personally involved should convince the owner to stop less than sanitary practices or report them to the authorities. To shift that burden to others abrogates their personal duty to society. It is not that the conduct shouldn't be stopped, or forced to stop; it is that those most well informed about the conduct have that duty.

I would argue that anyone knowing of a health hazard has a civic duty to report it.

'Well, Bob who works at the sandwich shop says that rats are craping in the tuna salad. But Bob should report it, not me, and if he doesn't I just won't eat there.' followed by 'Hey, 12 people violently ill from sandwich shop tuna salad, wow, Bob sure sucks, he was all worried about getting fired! Good thing I don't eat there and didn't report it to anyone, because that was his duty.'

We have a duty to report that which we have actual knowledge, not information and belief, save in exceptional circumstances. If your kid told you they heard screaming from the car trunk next to yours - the car that just sped away from the gas pump- when he was filling the tank and you were inside buying sodas, that is something you should report. Hearing about rats shiatting in tuna doesn't carry that exigency.

The entire purpose of calling is to start an investigation and determine credibility.  If someone calls about rats, and the place has a history of failing inspections, you might want to follow up.

An investigation isn't a raid, and while it might not be urgent, it should be followed up.

The health department isn't the police department. They don't want tips on possible tuna shiatting.

Every single restaurant and food truck in NYC has a health dept grade and a link to the health dept to review or report violations.

Every single ambulance has a 911 decal, but you still don't call it if your friend's sist ...

Do you think people who have second or third hand information should be calling the health department?


If they have a reasonable belief that there is an issue, absolutely.  Report and let the inspectors work. The inspectors are there to resolve public health issues.
 
2020-08-04 6:20:11 PM  

Joe USer: If they have a reasonable belief that there is an issue, absolutely.  Report and let the inspectors work. The inspectors are there to resolve public health issues.


How can you have a reasonable belief off second hand or third hand information. Even the legal 'information and belief' standard requires that you have some insight into the people who gave you the information, more than a casual chat.
 
2020-08-04 9:14:11 PM  

feckingmorons: Joe USer: If they have a reasonable belief that there is an issue, absolutely.  Report and let the inspectors work. The inspectors are there to resolve public health issues.

How can you have a reasonable belief off second hand or third hand information. Even the legal 'information and belief' standard requires that you have some insight into the people who gave you the information, more than a casual chat.


This isn't a criminal case, this is a health inspection. Inspections can be scheduled or random.

You don't seem to have any argument left short of the abdication of heath code inspections because the tip information doesn't meet some invented standard.
 
2020-08-04 11:14:50 PM  

Joe USer: feckingmorons: Joe USer: If they have a reasonable belief that there is an issue, absolutely.  Report and let the inspectors work. The inspectors are there to resolve public health issues.

How can you have a reasonable belief off second hand or third hand information. Even the legal 'information and belief' standard requires that you have some insight into the people who gave you the information, more than a casual chat.

This isn't a criminal case, this is a health inspection. Inspections can be scheduled or random.

You don't seem to have any argument left short of the abdication of heath code inspections because the tip information doesn't meet some invented standard.


It isn't an invented standard. People that have first hand knowledge of health code violations have an obligation to report them and they should be acted on first by the health officials. Those with less reliable information have no such duty, and if they do report they should be prioritized as such.

If you want to drop a dime because your sister's friend heard that they pee in the soup at Cafe Botulinum live it up.
 
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