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(Florida Today)   Why we can't have nice things: boaters swarm SpaceX Dragon capsule with Doug and Bob after splashdown. Maybe they wanted to huff some of that toxic hydrazine   (floridatoday.com) divider line
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2020-08-03 1:19:52 PM  
14 votes:

NotCodger: How could the Coast Guard not anticipate this? The landing area was published, showing it was close enough to be within range of civilian boats. The boaters probably knew they should stay away, but you don't need to be smart to own a boat.


We can't get people to wear a mask in a goddamn pandemic.  Do you think those f*cking idiots have the self-discipline to stay out of a space landing zone?

This is why the Navy puts landings in the middle of a f*cking ocean, dumbasses.
 
2020-08-03 1:04:47 PM  
10 votes:
How could the Coast Guard not anticipate this? The landing area was published, showing it was close enough to be within range of civilian boats. The boaters probably knew they should stay away, but you don't need to be smart to own a boat.
 
2020-08-03 1:51:33 PM  
6 votes:
Cite boaters, impound boats.
 
2020-08-03 1:42:35 PM  
6 votes:

OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.


Capsule isn't in the sea long enough for corrosion to be a problem.  They've almost certainly rinsed it off by now.

There are some other issues.

1.  Not enough space in case of a timing inaccuracy.  SpaceX has been really good about hitting the mark, but you always plan for the worse.  For example, Lake Michigan is about 79 miles wide.  At 17,500 miles an hour, if your timing is off by just a few seconds, you could end up in Wisconsin or Michigan, and *NO ONE* wants that.

2.  Even more morons with boats.  People who might be skittish about going 30 miles offshore on the open sea won't necessary be afraid on a lake.  After all, eventually you're going to drift to one shore or another.

3.  It's not possible for missions with an orbital inclination below about 41 degrees.  So for missions that aren't to the ISS it might not work anyway.

4.  Cost associated with carting the capsule back to Florida (that's where SpaceX has their Dragon refurbishment facility).  Right now all they have to do is get it from one side of Florida to the other.  It's not like schlepping it from Chicago or Duluth.
 
2020-08-03 1:57:27 PM  
5 votes:

FormlessOne: Even more fun - if it's in international waters, and it's a privately-owned spacecraft, what's to stop piracy, armed robbery, or kidnapping for ransom?


Corbomite.
 
2020-08-03 2:49:14 PM  
4 votes:
It was a safety and security concern, but no one was hurt and some people got an experience they'll likely never have again. Do better next time, but don't get too caught up on this time.
 
2020-08-03 3:27:23 PM  
3 votes:
They just circled the capsule? What a complete waste. I would have recovered the chutes, cut them up, and sold them on Ebay.
 
2020-08-03 2:21:08 PM  
3 votes:
Fark user imageView Full Size


Here's a better perspective on how close they were.
 
2020-08-03 2:10:07 PM  
3 votes:

FormlessOne: Cite boaters, impound boats.


For what, precisely?

I mean, they have to be disobeying some law in order for you to cite them, much less impound the boats.
 
2020-08-03 1:25:58 PM  
3 votes:
I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.
 
2020-08-03 7:04:18 PM  
2 votes:

dittybopper: FormlessOne: Cite boaters, impound boats.

For what, precisely?

I mean, they have to be disobeying some law in order for you to cite them, much less impound the boats.


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Unless Florida Man impedes what could arguably be called a pre-planned rescue at sea, or damages/steals parachutes, what is the law being broken?   I mean, aside from misdemeanor butt-hurt because people had to witness the existence of others who don't share their political beliefs on a private company's webstream that just happened to be repeated by a Gov't agency?  Should NASA TV airbrush the video archive to appeal to the Stalinist sensibilities of the the easily offended?

Now, from a liability standpoint, the MMH/NTO involved could make things interesting.  SpaceX, and/or the Coast Guard, could probably make a case for a hazmat safety exclusion zone, just in case someone goes in the drink or lawyers up for lung damage after huffing hypergolic fumes.  Even if that's the case, I don't think that gives anyone permission to sink boaters crossing the line.  Anyone know of precedent for the Highway Patrol [legally] shooting rubberneckers at an accident scene?
 
2020-08-03 5:46:52 PM  
2 votes:

FrancoFile: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: So... the Coast Guard cleared the area for splashdown, gave themselves a good ol' pat on the back for a job well done, and f#cked the hell off.

That seems to be the extent of the situation as described in TFA, at least; I'd really like to hear the Coast Guard's sode of things, because this doesn't look particularly great for them as far as "doing their f#cking job..."

I'd like to hear their side of things, as well, but I'm expecting little more than a sode...

They put out a press release yesterday.

Since the splashdown site was more than 12 miles offshore (ie, international waters), they don't actually have the authority to create and enforce an exclusion zone.

Which makes me wonder who enforces exclusion zones for the first stage of expendable rockets.


The exhaust plume.
 
2020-08-03 4:40:16 PM  
2 votes:

Noah_Tall: They just circled the capsule? What a complete waste. I would have recovered the chutes, cut them up, and sold them on Ebay.


and been arrested for theft.
 
2020-08-03 4:24:24 PM  
2 votes:
If they're so far out at sea that the HITRON coasties from Jacksonville can't take out the motors of infringing watercraft, maybe we've finally found an application for the Navy's poorly-armed, under-armored Littoral Combat Ships.  Something 400 feet long that can exceed 40 knots might get Florida Man's attention.  And if not, you can load an awful lot of toys into an LCS that will.
 
2020-08-03 3:19:41 PM  
2 votes:
IIRC, the Apollo craft all splashed down way out from land, and had the U.S. Navy involved. A recreational boater wouldn't have made it that far out, and the exact location wasn't on the internet days in advance.
 
2020-08-03 2:43:13 PM  
2 votes:

albuquerquehalsey: [Fark user image 850x352]

Here's a better perspective on how close they were.


No, it's not a better perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspec​t​ive_distortion_(photography)#Technical​_background
Compression (telephoto) distortion is often used to give the appearance of compressed distance between distant objects, such as buildings or automobiles in order to convey a feeling of congestion.

A better perspective would be from up above where you could directly measure how far away they are instead of relying on the known effects of a telephoto lens.

You know who else used that kind of perspective?

On the other end of the focal length spectre, Leni Riefenstahl used extreme telephoto lenses to compress large crowds in Triumph of the Will
 
2020-08-03 2:18:19 PM  
2 votes:

edmo: OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.

They like to do things year round and the Florida waters rarely freeze up.


Demonreach likely wouldn't approve.
 
2020-08-03 2:08:13 PM  
2 votes:

OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.


They like to do things year round and the Florida waters rarely freeze up.
 
2020-08-03 2:00:58 PM  
2 votes:

SansNeural: Russ1642: OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.

Latitude is probably an issue

That and the cold water up there is sure to make their dicks shrivel.  Now how can an astronaut stand and walk proudly when his dick is like that?


The diaper he's wearing hides it anyway.
 
2020-08-03 2:00:25 PM  
2 votes:

FormlessOne: FrancoFile: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: So... the Coast Guard cleared the area for splashdown, gave themselves a good ol' pat on the back for a job well done, and f#cked the hell off.

That seems to be the extent of the situation as described in TFA, at least; I'd really like to hear the Coast Guard's sode of things, because this doesn't look particularly great for them as far as "doing their f#cking job..."

I'd like to hear their side of things, as well, but I'm expecting little more than a sode...

They put out a press release yesterday.

Since the splashdown site was more than 12 miles offshore (ie, international waters), they don't actually have the authority to create and enforce an exclusion zone.

Which makes me wonder who enforces exclusion zones for the first stage of expendable rockets.

Even more fun - if it's in international waters, and it's a privately-owned spacecraft, what's to stop piracy, armed robbery, or kidnapping for ransom?

Imagine what a feather it would be in someone's cap to take two SpaceX astronauts hostage...


In that case, the Coast Guard has jurisdiction regardless of whether it's international waters or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna​t​ional_piracy_law
 
2020-08-03 2:00:17 PM  
2 votes:

Russ1642: OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.

Latitude is probably an issue


That and the cold water up there is sure to make their dicks shrivel.  Now how can an astronaut stand and walk proudly when his dick is like that?
 
2020-08-03 1:43:29 PM  
2 votes:
Take off, eh
 
2020-08-03 1:40:39 PM  
2 votes:

OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.


Latitude is probably an issue
 
2020-08-03 1:29:05 PM  
2 votes:
So... the Coast Guard cleared the area for splashdown, gave themselves a good ol' pat on the back for a job well done, and f#cked the hell off.

That seems to be the extent of the situation as described in TFA, at least; I'd really like to hear the Coast Guard's sode of things, because this doesn't look particularly great for them as far as "doing their f#cking job..."
 
2020-08-03 7:08:00 PM  
1 vote:
These boaters are the same people who go to a PGA Tour event and act like they've never seen a golf ball before.  They're sad, broken people.  Killing them would be way too merciful.  They're already living in Pensacola, for God sakes.
 
2020-08-03 4:17:10 PM  
1 vote:

dittybopper: albuquerquehalsey: [Fark user image 850x352]

Here's a better perspective on how close they were.

No, it's not a better perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspect​ive_distortion_(photography)#Technical​_background
Compression (telephoto) distortion is often used to give the appearance of compressed distance between distant objects, such as buildings or automobiles in order to convey a feeling of congestion.

A better perspective would be from up above where you could directly measure how far away they are instead of relying on the known effects of a telephoto lens.

You know who else used that kind of perspective?

On the other end of the focal length spectre, Leni Riefenstahl used extreme telephoto lenses to compress large crowds in Triumph of the Will


forced perspective or not, in that photo are the non-recovery personnel boats more than 10 miles away? no. then they are too farking close.

/yes i pulled the "10 miles" number from my ass. don't care.
//what ever laws or rules exist common sense and respect for the recovery crew and astronauts should prevail.
/// three slashies for the worst timeline.
 
2020-08-03 3:01:35 PM  
1 vote:
You know, would it kill SpaceX to install a little hatch that pops open with a trolling motor? Just let them steer themselves back to base...

...Oh, and a small turret with a 50 caliber machine gun to keep pirates at bay.

/I can think of a number of additional improvements...
//if you're interested, Elon.
///Call me.
 
2020-08-03 2:15:39 PM  
1 vote:

OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.


because if you over shoot you don't land in  on a starbucks in Quebec city
 
2020-08-03 1:50:17 PM  
1 vote:

OldJames: I wonder why they don't try and splashdown in one of the great lakes. The fresh water would be a lot nicer on the capsule, and make re-usability easier.


they have multiple splashdown locations located enough distance away from each other in case of weather, actual re-entry time, etc...
 
2020-08-03 1:38:26 PM  
1 vote:
Space Goat, Coastie to Coastie!
 
2020-08-03 1:35:13 PM  
1 vote:
By the time authorities made it to the landing site Florida Man had already stripped off all the heat shield and parachutes and were holding the "aliens" hostage.
 
2020-08-03 1:34:09 PM  
1 vote:

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: So... the Coast Guard cleared the area for splashdown, gave themselves a good ol' pat on the back for a job well done, and f#cked the hell off.

That seems to be the extent of the situation as described in TFA, at least; I'd really like to hear the Coast Guard's sode of things, because this doesn't look particularly great for them as far as "doing their f#cking job..."

I'd like to hear their side of things, as well, but I'm expecting little more than a sode...


They put out a press release yesterday.

Since the splashdown site was more than 12 miles offshore (ie, international waters), they don't actually have the authority to create and enforce an exclusion zone.

Which makes me wonder who enforces exclusion zones for the first stage of expendable rockets.
 
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