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(Yahoo)   Think the vaccine will be the cure-all? With all the complications and lasting problems being identified we're looking at $BILLIONS in long-term medical costs   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
    More: Scary, Acute respiratory distress syndrome, Health insurance, United States, Studies of COVID-19 patients, Hospital, World Health Organization, Public School of Health, NEW YORK  
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2020-08-03 1:42:47 PM  
Not to nitpick Subby, but if there is a vaccine then people won't develop those long-term, debilitating complications in the first place.

But the point of TFA remains.  Those already infected could be looking at years of issues.
 
2020-08-03 2:15:20 PM  
Suck it, Sweden.
 
2020-08-03 2:27:01 PM  
Also, if the GOP repeal the ACA then at least the private sector won't have to pay since testing positive for COVID-19 is a "pre-existing condition".
Then the block grants for Medicaid will limit public spending on anything other than nursing homes for boomers.
Either way expect premiums to go way up for 2021 because reasons.
 
2020-08-03 2:34:33 PM  
Who says a vaccine will be close to effective at that? Even a seasonal flu vaccine is maybe 40% effective at best. Better than nothing, but I'm certainly not going be the first in line to get it.
 
2020-08-03 2:39:14 PM  
Sure, we could use this as an excuse to transition to universal health care.  But, far more likely, all 5,000,000 survivors will slowly go bankrupt paying for their medical treatments.
 
2020-08-03 2:42:35 PM  
Can we put this bill on Trump and his lackeys who allowed this to turn into such an expensive crisis? Not that I expect them to pay, but it's a symbolic thing.
 
2020-08-03 3:04:44 PM  
So, Bolsonaro is still weak, but he blames this on "mold" he got in his lungs from having to be in his house.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/americ​a​s/brazil-bolsonaro-mold-lungs-intl/ind​ex.html
 
2020-08-03 3:16:33 PM  
Good thing Joe Biden supports M4A.

Wait...no he doesn't
 
2020-08-03 3:19:50 PM  

Northern: Also, if the GOP repeal the ACA then at least the private sector won't have to pay since testing positive for COVID-19 is a "pre-existing condition".
Then the block grants for Medicaid will limit public spending on anything other than nursing homes for boomers.
Either way expect premiums to go way up for 2021 because reasons.


People on Medicare will most likely be the one most effected by the residual effects from COVID.
 
2020-08-03 4:17:48 PM  

Catlenfell: Sure, we could use this as an excuse to transition to universal health care.  But, far more likely, all 5,000,000 survivors will slowly go bankrupt paying for their medical treatments.


If we can't even do masks, I'm highly skeptical we'll learn all the lessons we could from this nightmare.
 
2020-08-03 4:29:53 PM  
Billions of dollars in healthcare ahead is different from the usual, how?
 
2020-08-03 4:51:31 PM  

HempHead: Northern: Also, if the GOP repeal the ACA then at least the private sector won't have to pay since testing positive for COVID-19 is a "pre-existing condition".
Then the block grants for Medicaid will limit public spending on anything other than nursing homes for boomers.
Either way expect premiums to go way up for 2021 because reasons.

People on Medicare will most likely be the one most effected by the residual effects from COVID.


It could save cost in the end, then by shortening the time people spend on Medicare. 🔥
 
2020-08-03 5:34:27 PM  
Sure--or a revival of the pre-existing condition clause and a new application of it to Medicare/Medicaid.
 
2020-08-03 6:37:41 PM  

Catlenfell: Sure, we could use this as an excuse to transition to universal health care.  But, far more likely, all 5,000,000 survivors will slowly go bankrupt paying for their medical treatments.


I don't know why Fark isn't a bigger fan of medical bankruptcy. You hate the over priced system, so screw them right. Plus, bankruptcy ain't the heavy anchor it was 30 or 40 years ago.
 
2020-08-03 6:38:07 PM  

Hills-Sachs_Legion: Can we put this bill on Trump and his lackeys who allowed this to turn into such an expensive crisis? Not that I expect them to pay, but it's a symbolic thing.


If it makes you sleep better, sure.
 
2020-08-03 10:44:53 PM  

Diogenes: Not to nitpick Subby, but if there is a vaccine then people won't develop those long-term, debilitating complications in the first place.

But the point of TFA remains.  Those already infected could be looking at years of issues.


The vaccine won't change the long term prospects for those already infected. If we have zero infections at all from this moment on, it's still going to cost billions.
 
2020-08-03 11:40:56 PM  

thurstonxhowell: If we have zero infections at all from this moment on, it's still going to cost billions.


Going to?  The only question is whether it's a billion a month or a billion a day.
 
2020-08-04 12:08:24 AM  
still trying to learn about the disease. may as well say a gagillion based on what we know
 
2020-08-04 2:14:42 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Diogenes: Not to nitpick Subby, but if there is a vaccine then people won't develop those long-term, debilitating complications in the first place.

But the point of TFA remains.  Those already infected could be looking at years of issues.

The vaccine won't change the long term prospects for those already infected. If we have zero infections at all from this moment on, it's still going to cost billions.


That number well be heavily offset by all the people it killed. I mean, yeah, it's morbid, but if we are talking about it, let's talk about it...

Covid-19 disproportionately targets the elderly and the sick. Especially the elderly and sick. The vast majority of whom no longer contribute financially/economically.

Caring for old people is expensive. Caring for old, sick people is really really expensive. Much of that funding comes from tax payers. That money could be used far more efficiently.

Remember, when social security was started, the retirement age was higher than our life expectancy. A disease that kills old and sick people, quickly, is saving us a lot of money.
 
2020-08-04 4:02:17 AM  

MBZ321: Who says a vaccine will be close to effective at that? Even a seasonal flu vaccine is maybe 40% effective at best. Better than nothing, but I'm certainly not going be the first in line to get it.


The seasonal flu vaccine is attempting to guess ahead of time what strains of flu will hit migrate from the avian bioweapon labs, where the flu viruses mutate with their shiat-grade polymerases and recombine when two or three infect the same bird, to humans.

Covid has a low and steady mutation rate, AND the spike protein appears to be critical, accumulating next to zero mutations. Which means that - given as most vaccine efforts target the spike antigen - immunity is likely to be extremely long lasting.

Sars-1 survivors' immune systems still pounce on sars-1 antigens immediately, seventeen years after the last case.

Oh, speaking of sars-1... fully a third of survivors continue, again almost two decades after they were sick with it, to report varying degrees of chronic health problems resulting from the illness, from irreversible lung damage to bone necrosis. Today, almost 20% of Covid patients in Spain suffer ongoing neurological problems after "recovery."

Mere "billions" in chronic health problems resulting from Trump Virus is looking extremely optimistic.

/BuT iTs jUsT tHe fLu!
 
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