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(The Bulwark)   Let us all point and laugh at the deluded GOPers who think Devil's bargains have an escape clause. Burn baby burn   (thebulwark.com) divider line
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2020-08-03 9:49:39 AM  
Karma will be working overtime on that bunch. Time to pay up for dancing with the devil.
 
2020-08-03 12:31:48 PM  
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2020-08-03 12:38:20 PM  
Peggy Noonan, in 2010The tea party saved the Republican Party. In a broad sense, the tea party rescued it from being the fat, unhappy, querulous creature it had become, a party that didn't remember anymore why it existed, or what its historical purpose was. The tea party, with its energy and earnestness, restored the GOP to itself.

Trumpism is a direct descendant of the tea party. That "energy and earnestness" was reactionary obstinancy, the natural evolution of embracing willful ignorance as a worldview. It is Dubya's truthiness, but with the patina of seriousness and compassion replaced by sneering, guttural epithets. It is white Christianity's bull market for political indulgences, brokered by those who preach comfort and power in contradiction to the Gospels. It is selfishness fetishized into a political philosophy and personal identity.
 
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2020-08-03 12:39:02 PM  
I don't believe in the Devil and by extension Devil's Bargains.  I also don't believe in karma.  Simply reading on the history of the Reagan Administration how Reagan's campaign negotiated with Iran even before he was elected, violating the Logan Act, and how Iran-Contra didn't sink Reagan.

This is why I believe that the President should not be allowed to pardon anyone that works for him, for his Vice President, for the Cabinet, etc, and that a resigned or removed-from-office ex-President should be ineligible for Pardon during his own term or by anyone that is in his direct succession prior to his leaving office.

I would like to see Pardons required to be completely public and to spell-out crimes, pardons to require convictions and sentencing before being eligible for issue, and for no pardons to be issuable within 40 days of a Presidential election until the following term starts.
 
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2020-08-03 12:40:49 PM  
To add, I do believe it's possible for someone's abhorrent actions to come back on them, but it's not due to a supernatural force, it's due to enough of the right people recognizing them for what they are and have done.  There's nothing mystical about it.
 
2020-08-03 2:50:15 PM  
Noonan! Noonan! Noooooo-NAN!
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2020-08-03 2:50:26 PM  
Ah ok so The Secret it is then.  Maybe if they use the power of positive thinking they'll be saved AND they'll get that primo parking spot in front of Circle K.
 
2020-08-03 2:50:29 PM  
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"Noonan!"
 
2020-08-03 2:51:23 PM  

TabASlotB: Peggy Noonan, in 2010: The tea party saved the Republican Party. In a broad sense, the tea party rescued it from being the fat, unhappy, querulous creature it had become, a party that didn't remember anymore why it existed, or what its historical purpose was. The tea party, with its energy and earnestness, restored the GOP to itself.

Trumpism is a direct descendant of the tea party. That "energy and earnestness" was reactionary obstinancy, the natural evolution of embracing willful ignorance as a worldview. It is Dubya's truthiness, but with the patina of seriousness and compassion replaced by sneering, guttural epithets. It is white Christianity's bull market for political indulgences, brokered by those who preach comfort and power in contradiction to the Gospels. It is selfishness fetishized into a political philosophy and personal identity.


That, and there was no real "tea party"; it was a handful of Republican donors who paid for a rebranding, and in turn got a whole lot of legislators enslaved to their think tanks' doctrines.
 
2020-08-03 2:53:16 PM  
Isn't "Tea Party" a rebranding of the John Birch Society?

...you know, where are the crazies, and crackpots are from?
 
2020-08-03 2:53:52 PM  
"The Devil's Bargain? That's a drinking game." - Brett Kavanaugh
 
2020-08-03 2:54:01 PM  
The only escape clause I am aware of is an act of supreme selflessness.

Unfortunately for many Republicans they seem to read that as "Supreme selfishness"
 
2020-08-03 2:54:04 PM  

TWX: I would like to see Pardons required to be completely public and to spell-out crimes, pardons to require


That all sounds reasonable, but: pardon, commutation rules can only change through constitutional amendment

Same boat as trying to just get rid of the electoral college. Sounds good, but the chances of it happening are very slim.
 
2020-08-03 2:55:31 PM  
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2020-08-03 2:56:39 PM  
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Just hire the BP PR team and start running these types of ads, I'm sure that will work.
 
2020-08-03 2:58:04 PM  
The re-publican party used to be a great party.  Then the reaganists took over, followed by the lobbyists, followed (and financed) by the tea-jadists, joined by the trumpists.  After Nixon the re-publican party was about one thing, and one thing only:  Power.  That is all.  That's it.  That's all they cared about.

Why do any kind of self reflection?  power is all that matters.  Wait...we're starting to lose our grip on the electorate?  must be some kind of liberal plot, or game...can't be anything wrong with our platform....can't be our inherent sexism and racism...can't be our intentional class-warfare...it HAS to be a liberal plot...It's the libs!  It has to be!

What?  self-reflection?  No, we don't have time for that...if we do that now, we'll lose power, and the libs will take over!  Ok, fine...we'll reflect on this...but later.  right now we've just got to WIN!  Power!  If we lose power the LIBS will take over!  They'll take your guns!  They'll force you to gay-marry your hamster!  We've got to win!  Win at all costs!  We can't let the libs win!  Yeah, yeah, we'll get around to self-reflection sometime...but we can't let up an inch!  Must...win... (*why are they coming at me with a straight jacket?)
 
2020-08-03 2:58:49 PM  
There's some guy out here with a set of pipes.  Says he's here to be paid.  Cash only, since you all look like deadbeats.
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2020-08-03 2:59:19 PM  
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Well, you said you wanted Donald Trump to be President. Well, some one did. Fat guy? Bad hair? Plays golf. I didn't really get his name. But he was most insistent.
 
2020-08-03 3:00:19 PM  
Hello ... Noonan.
 
2020-08-03 3:01:11 PM  
Burn it to the farking ground and pave over it
 
2020-08-03 3:02:02 PM  

UNC_Samurai: That, and there was no real "tea party"; it was a handful of Republican donors who paid for a rebranding, and in turn got a whole lot of legislators enslaved to their think tanks' doctrines.


When the initial Tea Party protests in April 2009 were OPENLY sponsored by FOX News, you'd think that would have made it screamingly obvious that this was astroturfed heavily.

. . .but for some reason people ignored that and chugged along thinking that the Tea Party was some kind of "grassroots" movement in the GOP.
 
2020-08-03 3:02:06 PM  

jaytkay: "The Devil's Bargain? That's a drinking game." - Brett Kavanaugh


He thinks everything is a drinking game.
 
2020-08-03 3:05:10 PM  
"By Fortune's adverse buffets overborne
To solitude I fled, to wilds forlorn,
And not in utter loneliness to live,
Myself at last did to the Devil give!"
― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust
 
2020-08-03 3:05:17 PM  

capt_sensible: Karma will be working overtime on that bunch. Time to pay up for dancing with the devil.


Yeah, but here's the thing: the devil isn't Trump.  Trump is a factotum.  The devil is his base.

That's why Noonan's kumbaya is so woefully misguided.  She thinks once Trump is gone, everyone on the right can hug it out and go back to raping the poor, like the good ole days.  She's forgotten about Trump's irredeemable supporters.  They are the ones who need to be burned to the ground.
 
2020-08-03 3:11:02 PM  
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2020-08-03 3:12:16 PM  
Noonan!
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2020-08-03 3:15:39 PM  
Bulwark political columnist Amanda Carpenter is a CNN contributor, author, and former communications director to Sen. Ted Cruz and speechwriter to Sen. Jim DeMint.


You helped make that bed, Amanda, you get to sleep in it.  Your former bosses helped radicalize the Republican base.  Those radicalized salt-of-the-earth types are the ones who have embraced Trump and Trumpism.  I wonder if she wrote the speech where DeMint said that homosexual or unmarried sexually-active teachers shouldn't be teaching?

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/​2​012/12/senate-loses-jim-demint-and-his​-crazy/

Having said that, I hope Never Trumpers like Carpenter and the Lincoln Project kick off a civil war in the Republican Party.  Having those jackals at each others' throats would be good for America as a whole.
 
2020-08-03 3:16:49 PM  
Amanda Carpenter?? The speechwriter for Jim DeMint and Ted Cruz? The author of this?
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THAT Amanda Carpenter is all up in Peggy Noonan's face moralizing about deluded Republicans??
Girl, get a grip.
 
2020-08-03 3:16:59 PM  

UNC_Samurai: TabASlotB: Peggy Noonan, in 2010: The tea party saved the Republican Party. In a broad sense, the tea party rescued it from being the fat, unhappy, querulous creature it had become, a party that didn't remember anymore why it existed, or what its historical purpose was. The tea party, with its energy and earnestness, restored the GOP to itself.

Trumpism is a direct descendant of the tea party. That "energy and earnestness" was reactionary obstinancy, the natural evolution of embracing willful ignorance as a worldview. It is Dubya's truthiness, but with the patina of seriousness and compassion replaced by sneering, guttural epithets. It is white Christianity's bull market for political indulgences, brokered by those who preach comfort and power in contradiction to the Gospels. It is selfishness fetishized into a political philosophy and personal identity.

That, and there was no real "tea party"; it was a handful of Republican donors who paid for a rebranding, and in turn got a whole lot of legislators enslaved to their think tanks' doctrines.

Invisible Obama: When the initial Tea Party protests in April 2009 were OPENLY sponsored by FOX News, you'd think that would have made it screamingly obvious that this was astroturfed heavily.

. . .but for some reason people ignored that and chugged along thinking that the Tea Party was some kind of "grassroots" movement in the GOP.

special20: Isn't "Tea Party" a rebranding of the John Birch Society?

...you know, where are the crazies, and crackpots are from?

Of relevance in any thread about the Teabaggers.
 
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2020-08-03 3:22:33 PM  

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the irony being that he himself courted them and arguably invited them in.
 
2020-08-03 3:23:09 PM  

special20: Isn't "Tea Party" a rebranding of the John Birch Society?

...you know, where are the crazies, and crackpots are from?


If you thought that was wacky, just wait until the Republicans do the same with the Q people after Biden wins.
 
2020-08-03 3:23:24 PM  

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"And I should know, because I farking opened the door for their asses when I radicalized the party!"
 
2020-08-03 3:26:38 PM  

Iowan73: jaytkay: "The Devil's Bargain? That's a drinking game." - Brett Kavanaugh

He thinks everything is a drinking game.


To be fair, he thinks Don't Break the Ice is a drinking game.
 
2020-08-03 3:29:48 PM  
Brokenseas:...You helped make that bed, Amanda, you get to sleep in it.  Your former bosses helped radicalize the Republican base.  Those radicalized salt-of-the-earth types are the ones who have embraced Trump and Trumpism.  I wonder if she wrote the speech where DeMint said that homosexual or unmarried sexually-active teachers shouldn't be teaching?

Exactly THIS. Say what you will about Peggy Noonan the Reaganaut, her speeches were written with care and sensitivity and spoke to legitimate American values and higher aspirations.
As this idiotic thumbsucker proves, Amanda Carpenter couldn't write a check. She's easily the most sanctimonious and least convincing of the Never Trumpers.
 
2020-08-03 3:30:06 PM  
Sorry, Peggy. You can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding. Every single Trump enabler needs to go. After that, the GOP needs to be burned to the ground, the ashes pissed on, and the earth where it stood salted. You guys spent fifty years courting racists and religious bigots. You made it your mission to destroy public education and sow mistrust in our institutions for at least forty years. Trump is not an abberation. He is the embodiment of the GOP and all it stands for, with the bullshiat stripped away, and you let him lead your entire party across the Rubicon. You deserve nothing but destruction, by any means necessary.

fark your 'concern' and your crocodile tears. I hope your party tears itself apart, and I hope the Democrats hasten your destruction. I hope the Democrats sweep the election, keeping the House and winning the Senate, White House, and a significant majority of state legislatures. I hope they gerrymander you into irrelevance and then pass districting reforms. I hope they expand the franchise to every American citizen, including prison inmates. I hope they mandate automatic voter registration, universal no excuse absentee voting, and the maximum number of residents a polling place can serve. I hope they put every state in the country under preclearance rules. I hope they pass a law saying that voting laws and policies that are functionally discriminatory (like voter ID, closing DMVs, and voter roll purges leading up to an election) will trigger the invocation of Section 2 of the 14th Amendment.

/the GOP has lost its right to exist
//it must be utterly destroyed
///for the same of our Republic
 
2020-08-03 3:32:11 PM  
In many stories you can get out of your contract if you can get someone else to take it over. Trump is an expert at leaving other people holding the bag.
 
2020-08-03 3:32:12 PM  
Peggy Noonan is a sanctimonious coont.
 
2020-08-03 3:34:10 PM  
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Ha ha! No.
 
2020-08-03 3:36:11 PM  

special20: Isn't "Tea Party" a rebranding of the John Birch Society?

...you know, where are the crazies, and crackpots are from?


Yes.
 
2020-08-03 3:40:05 PM  
I still remember the Peggy Noonan column in the Wall Street Journal crowing: "Mitt's Coming!  I Can Feel It"

Her screed against Nate Silver's polling numbers here:

https://www.businessinsider.com/peggy​-​noonan-romney-obama-prediction-elector​al-college-map-wall-street-journal-201​2-11

/Some copy editor must hate her guts to run that headline
 
2020-08-03 3:46:51 PM  
Came looking for Sam, Dean, Crowley, and the Hellhounds.
 
2020-08-03 3:51:44 PM  
The only way the GOP pays a price is if a new party rises.

The political ruling class want a two party system, and only two party system because it keeps the power in their hands
Even when the Republicans are out of power look at the power they still have?

The elite either inherit their place in the ruling class like modern senatorial/equasterians(think Nush family, Kennedy, family, Cheney the daughter or any other politician who got a head start by the luck of being someone's kid*) or they gain admission through hard work and luck.

Neither of these groups of people want to open the ruling class to just anyone

*want more
Al Gore
Lisa Murkowski
What's her name the Hawaiin vet Putin loves
RAND PAUL
 
2020-08-03 3:58:16 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Came looking for Sam, Dean, Crowley, and the Hellhounds.


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2020-08-03 3:59:39 PM  
Hey Peggy...FARK your fee-fees!
 
2020-08-03 4:11:41 PM  
Given all the elaborate mental gymnastics GOPers have done to defend Trump, saying "OK Trump is bad and must go, but his Senate enablers deserve to stay" is actually a mental gymnastics routine of lower difficulty.

/they're still not executing it though
//despite the score from the Russian judge
 
2020-08-03 4:23:29 PM  
Did Dame Peggington Noonington eat an edible again? Someone fetch the houseboy!
 
2020-08-03 4:25:17 PM  
 
2020-08-03 4:37:32 PM  
Peggy Noonan is the political media equivalent of Mrs. Shellhammer in the original Miracle on 34th Street: drunk as a skunk, warbling "Hellloooooo" while waving her legs in the air, and anticipating a visit from Santa who will bring her a solution to all of the Republican party's problems and another drink. Hellllooooooo!!
 
2020-08-03 4:50:35 PM  

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Print shop, 1619:

[Editor staring at cover sheet]

Yeah, "F" for interior "S", okay, extra "L" and "E", weird abbreviations, sure, all that's fine, but, what's this

Histoy....histoy....histoy?

GOD DAMN IT!!!! FORGOT THE R!!!!!

Aw, fu*k it, practically no one can read anyway, print on!
 
2020-08-03 4:54:29 PM  
When you sup with the Devil, use a very long spoon.

/Don't use a spork, they're demonic already
 
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