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2020-08-03 9:08:17 AM  
Edge doesn't stop Facebook from being able to spy on what you're doing in your other tabs.

Firefox does.

It can do the same for Google and all the other companies who have surveillance capitalism as their business model.
 
2020-08-03 9:08:20 AM  
I dropped Firefox for Opera when I noticed some slowdowns a couple months ago. I wish I had tried it earlier, it is fast as all hell. I'll pass on my computer getting infected by anything, and continue to live in the Arch family.

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2020-08-03 9:29:59 AM  
Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?
 
2020-08-03 9:49:47 AM  

BullBearMS: Edge doesn't stop Facebook from being able to spy on what you're doing in your other tabs.

Firefox does.

It can do the same for Google and all the other companies who have surveillance capitalism as their business model.


Purism SPC is near anal about security.

Their default browser on their laptops and PureOS Linux OS is Firefox.
 
2020-08-03 9:51:32 AM  

OldJames: I dropped Firefox for Opera when I noticed some slowdowns a couple months ago. I wish I had tried it earlier, it is fast as all hell. I'll pass on my computer getting infected by anything, and continue to live in the Arch family.

[Fark user image image 300x168]


Firefox plus security and privacy addons scream on my Manjaro Linux.
 
2020-08-03 9:52:16 AM  

lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?


Ole Clippy is a sneaky fuker.
 
2020-08-03 9:58:53 AM  
I've been using Brave for a while with good results. It's basically Chromium with the skeevy bits pulled out.
 
2020-08-03 10:01:45 AM  

lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?


They know how easily led the sheeple are.
 
2020-08-03 10:02:06 AM  

Pestifer: I've been using Brave for a while with good results. It's basically Chromium with the skeevy bits pulled out.


I have been using Brave for a long time. No complaints so far.
 
2020-08-03 10:04:20 AM  

Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.


No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.
 
2020-08-03 10:07:34 AM  
Every 10 to 15 years - "Gee, I'll drop this oh-so-very-hard-to-install opensource software for the junk the vendor bundled with the OS", and then about 5 years later "omgwtfwhatididitdotome".
 
2020-08-03 10:09:31 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.


I never said it would be easy
I only said it would be the truth.

If u dont mind being snooped on and having someone else tell u how to use your computer then stick with closed source software.

Its a free country for the most part.
 
2020-08-03 10:12:55 AM  

Linux_Yes: NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.

I never said it would be easy
I only said it would be the truth.

If u dont mind being snooped on and having someone else tell u how to use your computer then stick with closed source software.

Its a free country for the most part.


I like being able to actually do things with my systems.
 
2020-08-03 10:13:56 AM  

pup.socket: Every 10 to 15 years - "Gee, I'll drop this oh-so-very-hard-to-install opensource software for the junk the vendor bundled with the OS", and then about 5 years later "omgwtfwhatididitdotome".


Ill take to my grave the lie that Linux is hard to use.

How is point and click hard?

And some distros like Linux Mint even have simple how to guides on how to dual boot Linux and windows.

Sorry but its difficult for me to feel empathy for folks who dont want to read or try new things.
They do what the TV tells them to do.
 
2020-08-03 10:14:48 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.

I never said it would be easy
I only said it would be the truth.

If u dont mind being snooped on and having someone else tell u how to use your computer then stick with closed source software.

Its a free country for the most part.

I like being able to actually do things with my systems.


Likewise

I do the same and much faster.
 
2020-08-03 10:18:21 AM  

Linux_Yes: NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.

I never said it would be easy
I only said it would be the truth.

If u dont mind being snooped on and having someone else tell u how to use your computer then stick with closed source software.

Its a free country for the most part.

I like being able to actually do things with my systems.

Likewise

I do the same and much faster.


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2020-08-03 10:20:08 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.


I appologize Mr Gates.

Dont know what got into me.
 
2020-08-03 10:24:33 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.

I never said it would be easy
I only said it would be the truth.

If u dont mind being snooped on and having someone else tell u how to use your computer then stick with closed source software.

Its a free country for the most part.

I like being able to actually do things with my systems.

Likewise

I do the same and much faster.

[media1.tenor.com image 450x254]


Close to 100% of the supercomputers around the world use Linux for a reason.

Btw the ISS switched their laptops to Linux from windows for virus reasons, among others.
 
2020-08-03 10:25:13 AM  
When the witch Dr video came out last week one of my friends on Facebook was complaining because it kept getting taken down. They said the best way to get information was to turn the fact checking in FB off. I told them that they're still not getting all the info and that they need to disable the windows fire wall, anti virus and also make sure the firewall on their router was disabled. I figure if they're going all in, their might as well do it without any protection.

/windows gives me a warm feeling, late at night in the winter when the furnace kicks on because I made money helping people who "know better"
 
2020-08-03 10:25:39 AM  

Linux_Yes: How is point and click hard?


Unrepeatable configurations.
 
2020-08-03 11:28:23 AM  

oa330_man: I told them that they're still not getting all the info and that they need to disable the windows fire wall, anti virus and also make sure the firewall on their router was disabled. I figure if they're going all in, their might as well do it without any protection.


Weirdly that might just validate their positions because now people are out to plant viruses on their computers for their internet searches or because they know too much "truth".
 
2020-08-03 12:48:28 PM  

Linux_Yes: OldJames: I dropped Firefox for Opera when I noticed some slowdowns a couple months ago. I wish I had tried it earlier, it is fast as all hell. I'll pass on my computer getting infected by anything, and continue to live in the Arch family.

[Fark user image image 300x168]

Firefox plus security and privacy addons scream on my Manjaro Linux.


It's still faster than when I am on a Winbox, but opera seems a bit faster. Seems like it slowed a touch after they added the stuff like the away from facebook tracking blocking.

I'm using manjaro CLI installed (arch style), clean gnome, linux54, btrfs. What's your flavor?
 
2020-08-03 1:13:11 PM  

pup.socket: Linux_Yes: How is point and click hard?

Unrepeatable configurations.


With Linux my point and clicks always result in the same outcomes.

Ymmv
 
2020-08-03 1:14:03 PM  
Firefox has the best logo
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2020-08-03 1:20:05 PM  

OldJames: Linux_Yes: OldJames: I dropped Firefox for Opera when I noticed some slowdowns a couple months ago. I wish I had tried it earlier, it is fast as all hell. I'll pass on my computer getting infected by anything, and continue to live in the Arch family.

[Fark user image image 300x168]

Firefox plus security and privacy addons scream on my Manjaro Linux.

It's still faster than when I am on a Winbox, but opera seems a bit faster. Seems like it slowed a touch after they added the stuff like the away from facebook tracking blocking.

I'm using manjaro CLI installed (arch style), clean gnome, linux54, btrfs. What's your flavor?


Manjaro 20.0.3
Kernel 5.4
Xfce desktop
Ext 4
On a asrock deskmini  a300 with an amd ryzen 3400G Apu

Use it as an htpc.  The deskmini is the size of an atx power supply.

Using noctua cooler so i never hear any fan noise.  Runs cool too.
 
2020-08-03 1:24:19 PM  

OldJames: Linux_Yes: OldJames: I dropped Firefox for Opera when I noticed some slowdowns a couple months ago. I wish I had tried it earlier, it is fast as all hell. I'll pass on my computer getting infected by anything, and continue to live in the Arch family.

[Fark user image image 300x168]

Firefox plus security and privacy addons scream on my Manjaro Linux.

It's still faster than when I am on a Winbox, but opera seems a bit faster. Seems like it slowed a touch after they added the stuff like the away from facebook tracking blocking.

I'm using manjaro CLI installed (arch style), clean gnome, linux54, btrfs. What's your flavor?


Oh

And fast as fark even though using an apu with cpu and gpu on same die.
 
2020-08-03 1:28:46 PM  

NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.

I never said it would be easy
I only said it would be the truth.

If u dont mind being snooped on and having someone else tell u how to use your computer then stick with closed source software.

Its a free country for the most part.

I like being able to actually do things with my systems.


I'm not into the proselytizing like Linux_Yes is, however I think you are a bit disconnected from reality here.  What is it - in your imagination - that you can do but I (from Linux Mint) cannot?

The reality based answer is... not a single thing.  I'm not one bit less productive since I switched from W7 (since support ended and I don't want W10).  There was some adjustment period of course, but I'm actually a lot happier with my OS now than then.  Despite the perception, I'm not even worse off when gaming thanks to Steam's Proton (created from Wine).

If you prefer Windows still, that's fine by me... but you're still on BS.  You clearly don't understand the modern state of Linux.  The user experience of Linux Mint at least is IMO far better than the modern state of Windows and continually improving at a pretty decent rate.  There are also some other pretty decent distros.  Microsoft will continue to change up Windows somewhat but frankly they seem to have peeked with W7.  Maybe they'll have something better again in the future... but not today.  They'll have to work pretty hard in order to lure me back.

Still though this thread is supposed to be about browsers.  And funny enough, Microsoft is porting Edge to Linux.  Although I think I'll pass on that, but I sorta appreciate them trying at least.

I use Firefox instead of Chrome/Chromium because I can actually make it into the browser I want to use - with a combination of built in options and extensions.  Chrome is so ridiculously bare bones and non-customizable even though it also supports extensions.  To me this isn't a good browser in the year 2020.  I think much earlier builds of Chrome where much better, although trying to use them now would be a security nightmare.  They have one specific idea of what a browser should be, and if that fits what you expect then that's fine I guess.  But it doesn't fit me.

Hell you need an extension for something as basic as having a menu bar!  And that extension doesn't really do the job reliably.  For cutting away all the UI options they decided you didn't need, they don't actually have a lean, efficient browser.  You can't even call that a trade off.

OldJames: I dropped Firefox for Opera when I noticed some slowdowns a couple months ago. I wish I had tried it earlier, it is fast as all hell. I'll pass on my computer getting infected by anything, and continue to live in the Arch family.

[Fark user image 300x168]


Opera I haven't used for years.  Pretty decent back in the day.  From what I remember, it would probably be far better than Chrome.  I don't know the modern state of Opera though.  Maybe I'll give it another shot.
 
2020-08-03 1:32:53 PM  

oa330_man: When the witch Dr video came out last week one of my friends on Facebook was complaining because it kept getting taken down. They said the best way to get information was to turn the fact checking in FB off. I told them that they're still not getting all the info and that they need to disable the windows fire wall, anti virus and also make sure the firewall on their router was disabled. I figure if they're going all in, their might as well do it without any protection.

/windows gives me a warm feeling, late at night in the winter when the furnace kicks on because I made money helping people who "know better"


Once they understand that MS cares deeply abt them and is only trying to keep them safe, then all is well in candyland.

Turn router firewall off??

I wanna get to know you......lolz
 
2020-08-03 1:54:05 PM  
My Lynx browser doesn't even care.
 
2020-08-03 2:06:12 PM  

NuclearPenguins: Linux_Yes: lostcat: Edge is the browser that pops up when you accidentally click the wrong spot on the Windows 10 login screen before entering your password, right?

I mean why else would Microsoft put links to random topics on a login screen?

They know how easily led the sheeple are.

No one here cares about your FOSS cult. Has anyone on Fark ever responded favorably to one of your posts? We get it, you dislike anything that isn't open source. That's great. The rest of us here don't give a rat's ass. Take your nonsense to Slashdot.



You should probably say "some of us" instead of "the rest of us". Windows is straight garbage. I can actually get work done using Gnome, instead of constantly swearing and fighting against what Windows thinks I want to do.
 
2020-08-03 4:57:28 PM  
"Making Google more powerful is risky on many fronts. If one product like Chromium has enough market share, then it becomes easier for web developers and businesses to decide not to worry if their services and sites work with anything other than Chromium."

This is true.

"The web is dominated by Chromium, if they really *cared* about the web they would be contributing instead of building a parallel universe that's used by less than 5 percent."

This is also true.

I give Chromium a pass, vs, say, Internet Explorer dominating because you can fork it and do whatever you want with it. And take updates if and when you like.

And I like the idea of what Firefox is doing, but I don't like their browser. JS and CSS transitions are slow when it alters the size of elements, and even slower when doing so alters the size of adjacent elements. As a result I like the idea of only coding for Chromium. And it's not like the IE days where the dominant browser was objectively worse and ignored web standards, so I don't feel filthy doing so.

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2020-08-03 6:15:29 PM  
I couldn't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab. And Chrome's is janky.
 
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