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2020-08-03 8:25:16 AM  
I hope to god it is
 
2020-08-03 8:27:23 AM  
Oh no! There will only be two Starbucks on every corner now.
 
2020-08-03 8:39:42 AM  
No, but hopefully it is the end of most of them. We still need coffee shops. We do not need one on every goddamn corner.

Taco trucks, on the other hand...
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-08-03 8:47:08 AM  
For the last few years around here, Dutch Bros has been quickly rising in popularity with lines of cars at their drive-throughs causing strip-malls to have to restripe their lanes.  Starbucks are being built with drive-throughs now as well.  This observation is in a suburban setting.

The shift away from the coffee shop that ones goes into and lounges in after buying coffee was already into full-swing.  I wonder if the success in sit-down coffee shops was partly due to the amenities provided inside, like faux-libraries, climate control, and Internet access, with the occasional live music or secondary ice cream parlor business.  These coffee shops offer places for people living in small apartments to go for an hour or two to get out of their apartments to socialize or even to get some work in with a change of scenery.

With COVID-19, most of those amenities are either not available, or are detrimental to either the customer (ie, spread of disease) or the business (paying for amenities or square footage that won't be used), and if one is going drive-through anyway then there's no good reason to pay for a cup of coffee and a place to sit and enjoy it if one doesn't get to sit there and enjoy it.

It won't surprise me if most independent coffee shops without the option to retrofit to drive-through or easy curbside service will fail.  It won't surprise me if many standalone Starbucks locations (ie, not part of a grocery store or some other high-traffic place) end up closing if there aren't drive-through options.

Lastly, if unemployment continues to be the worst since the Great Depression, or gets even worse, then a lot of people are going to simply have to replace that $4/day coffee with a $0.20/day drip coffee at home.  They're going to need that $100/month for basic expenses like rent and utilities.  Even the drive-through locations might suffer if suburban consumers simply can't afford the coffee.
 
2020-08-03 9:03:43 AM  
TWX:
Lastly, if unemployment continues to be the worst since the Great Depression, or gets even worse, then a lot of people are going to simply have to replace that $4/day coffee with a $0.20/day drip coffee at home.  They're going to need that $100/month for basic expenses like rent and utilities.  Even the drive-through locations might suffer if suburban consumers simply can't afford the coffee.

Most of the people who drink actual coffee, make it at home because they have figured out that coffee shop coffee usually isn't that great.  It is cheaper and better to make it at home.
The ones that go to coffee shops drink coffeeish flavored frappes.  Those are harder to make at home, because most would recoil when they see the amount of sugar necessary to make them taste like store bought.

/Also most people don't have lecithin in their pantry, which is essential to provide the texture.
 
2020-08-03 9:11:03 AM  
90s observational comedians will be devastated by not having $5 mochachinos to blather about.
 
2020-08-03 9:13:00 AM  
40 years from now, our grandchildren will pester us with questions about Friends reruns.
 
2020-08-03 9:17:13 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: 90s observational comedians will be devastated by not having $5 mochachinos to blather about.


What's the deal with that?
 
2020-08-03 9:17:46 AM  
I'd like to have something like a coffee shop around.  Somewhere I can sip on a coffee for a few hours while I get some work done, while not having to worry about any upkeep.  I feel there's room in the market for such a place, but it won't look like a 2019 coffee shop.
 
2020-08-03 9:27:38 AM  
I feel like the coffee at the couple of shops (neither of which are Starbucks) that I go to aren't worth the $3ish I pay for (with refills) per se. As for ambience, a place to focus on work, a place to relax and just stretch and breathe a little when I'm feeling cooped up in my house...$3ish for a couple of hours is a damn bargain.

Kept me sane through grad school (even though I didn't go every day).
 
2020-08-03 9:44:56 AM  

vudukungfu: I hope to god it is


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2020-08-03 9:48:27 AM  
No.  There are way too many skinny jean hipster entitled Karens for coffee shops to go away.
 
2020-08-03 9:49:09 AM  
They were on the decline anyway. The "hang out here" appeal had started to wane, partly due to the problems at a few locations (*cough* racist ahole employees), partly due to too many people treating them as free offices. Most places removed all of the outlets and any new locations, outside of cities, have been focusing on drive through service.

Whatever, they were a fad, a longer lived than usual one, but a fad nonetheless.
 
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2020-08-03 10:11:32 AM  

Spego: vudukungfu: I hope to god it is

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What's that Indian guy from Short Circuit doing there? I guess he never left new York after the second movie.
 
2020-08-03 10:15:22 AM  

EvilEgg: TWX:
Lastly, if unemployment continues to be the worst since the Great Depression, or gets even worse, then a lot of people are going to simply have to replace that $4/day coffee with a $0.20/day drip coffee at home.  They're going to need that $100/month for basic expenses like rent and utilities.  Even the drive-through locations might suffer if suburban consumers simply can't afford the coffee.

Most of the people who drink actual coffee, make it at home because they have figured out that coffee shop coffee usually isn't that great.  It is cheaper and better to make it at home.
The ones that go to coffee shops drink coffeeish flavored frappes.  Those are harder to make at home, because most would recoil when they see the amount of sugar necessary to make them taste like store bought.

/Also most people don't have lecithin in their pantry, which is essential to provide the texture.


Coffee shops tend to have excellent coffee, at least around here they do. The chains, not so much.
 
2020-08-03 10:16:49 AM  
It's not the end of "coffee shops" - It's the end of the Service Industry.
In the future, doing simple everyday life stuff for people that they can easily do for themselves isn't going to be a career going forward, and several tens of millions of Americans had better start thinking about what they are going to do with their lives - because bringing somebody a sandwich or a drink or cutting their hair or doing their nails ain't going to be a job no more.
 
2020-08-03 12:31:13 PM  

jso2897: It's not the end of "coffee shops" - It's the end of the Service Industry.
In the future, doing simple everyday life stuff for people that they can easily do for themselves isn't going to be a career going forward, and several tens of millions of Americans had better start thinking about what they are going to do with their lives - because bringing somebody a sandwich or a drink or cutting their hair or doing their nails ain't going to be a job no more.


My wife is getting very good at trimming my hair (what is left of it). I'm not sure I will ever step inside a barbershop again.
 
2020-08-03 1:44:21 PM  
Not a fan of Starbucks, but I love cafes. I travel a lot for work and pleasure; they're my go to place in the AM. Always get a coffee and pastry in the morning, and read the news for 30 minutes.

It's seems pretty premature to declare the death of any industry. It's going to come down to how effective the vaccine is. If it's like 60 percent effective and we all have to wear masks and socially distance for the next 12 to 24 months, then yeah, they're probably screwed.
 
2020-08-03 3:22:05 PM  
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2020-08-03 9:49:49 PM  
I think they will still be a thing in major cities and population centers. The ones right outside your average suburban half-vacant office park? They are toast. Already in my area I've seen a few Starbucks yet to reopen (I doubt they will) and others with severely reduced hours (like closing at 4pm every day).
 
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