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(Deadline)   Andrew Lloyd Webber gives strong thumbs down to Tom Hooper's "ridiculous" adaptation of Cats, both the original and anally unexpurgated versions   (deadline.com) divider line
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2020-08-03 6:30:52 AM  
In fairness, while it didn't actually work this time, if I were making a new version of Cats and wanted it to actually be good "make sure no one involved in the original is allowed within a kilometer of the production at any time" would be the first bullet-point on my list, too.

The stage production is one of those things where the fun part is almost entirely in the creative ways your local community theater wrangles all of that ridiculous bullshiat with a production budget of twenty bucks and an expired five dollar coupon to The Sizzler.  The full-on megabudget broadway interpretation is... ehhh.

// Also it's structured as a variety show, essentially, making that into a cinematic production was always going to be a "toss out that script and write a new one based on your memory of what you just read" deal.  Even the Muppet Movies largely set aside the show's central purpose and format when making movies, man.
 
2020-08-03 7:04:02 AM  
And what of normal peoples' opinions of Andrew Lloyd Webber writing Cats?  I believe the phrase  "the f*cking audacity" and "my goddamn 12 year old asked me to bring her and her friends" would show up more often than not.

/You can't make chicken salad...
 
2020-08-03 7:05:08 AM  
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2020-08-03 7:33:45 AM  
I didn't get the love for the original at all.  I feel like the original play was the equivalent of a pre-internet 1980s cat videos montage.  I didn't get cat videos either when those arrived on the scene, but I understand that some people just lose their minds of those kinds of things.  To each their own.

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2020-08-03 7:46:21 AM  
Hal, it's about cats.
 
2020-08-03 7:55:58 AM  
#RELASETHEBUTTCUTT
 
2020-08-03 8:29:34 AM  

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2020-08-03 8:39:56 AM  
I know, we'll get a bunch of BIG NAMES then CGI them to be unrecognizable.
Great idea, boss!  And while we're at it why don't we make the morphs so deep in the uncanny valley people will be immediately repelled?
Okay, but ditch the buttholes.
 
2020-08-03 8:47:56 AM  

imaconnect4guy: Marcos P: #RELASETHEBUTTCUTT

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2020-08-03 8:55:50 AM  

Jim_Callahan: // Also it's structured as a variety show, essentially, making that into a cinematic production was always going to be a "toss out that script and write a new one based on your memory of what you just read" deal.  Even the Muppet Movies largely set aside the show's central purpose and format when making movies, man.


We watched the new version earlier in the quarantine. It's a variety show with a villain and no real hero.  I mean, they had to keep the songs, which hamstrings you significantly, but the characterisations for like half was way off.  Judy Dench was great, and the sequence from Skimbleshanks to Taylor Swift was good "movie variety show", but so much of the rest couldn't have missed the point more of they were trying to.
 
2020-08-03 9:07:24 AM  
The play was a crappy trainwreck, written at the last minute.

The musical was scheduled to open on 30 April 1981, with previews starting on 22 April. Shortly before tickets went on sale in mid-February, Nunn revealed to the alarmed producers that he was struggling to write the script for the musical. Despite still having no established book or score, rehearsals began on 9 March 1981 in a church hall in Chiswick, London. The original music director, Chris Walker, became so frustrated with the unfinished score that he quit by lunchtime and was replaced by the film conductor Harry Rabinowitz.[20] The situation improved later that day when Lloyd Webber, Mackintosh and Nunn met with Stilgoe, a musician known for his ability to improvise lyrics on the spot, in hopes that Stilgoe could write an opening song for the musical. By the next evening, Stilgoe had produced a draft for "Jellicle Songs for Jellicle Cats".[21] However, "Memory", an 11 o'clock number for Grizabella that Nunn insisted the show needed as its "emotional centre",[22] still had no lyrics at this point. Lloyd Webber's former writing partner Tim Rice was brought in to write a lyric for the song, but his version was rejected by Nunn for being too depressing. The lyrics for "Memory" were not completed by Nunn until well into the previews.[23]

The movie is visually great, very unique, and it's held back by those godawful songs.
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2020-08-03 9:15:50 AM  
I saw Cats on Broadway and I actually fell asleep during.

I also fell asleep during Attack of the Clones.

The only two times I fell asleep in a theater.
 
2020-08-03 9:21:45 AM  
"Andrew Lloyd Webber Says Movie Adaptation Of 'Cats' Was "Ridiculous""

sure sure but the live action, stage version of cats was in no way ridiculous.  yeah that's the ticket.
 
2020-08-03 9:28:47 AM  

tom baker's scarf: "Andrew Lloyd Webber Says Movie Adaptation Of 'Cats' Was "Ridiculous""

sure sure but the live action, stage version of cats was in no way ridiculous.  yeah that's the ticket.


I mean, the show is basically a series of set pieces tied together by a very thin plot.  (It should be pointed out that T.S. Eliot's book doesn't really have a plot at all; it's just a series of poems he wrote about cats.)  That's much harder to get away with on film than it is in theatre.
 
2020-08-03 9:36:35 AM  

Imaginativescreenname: The movie is visually great, very unique


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The butt hole version was superior.
 
2020-08-03 9:40:55 AM  

Jim_Callahan: In fairness, while it didn't actually work this time, if I were making a new version of Cats and wanted it to actually be good "make sure no one involved in the original is allowed within a kilometer of the production at any time" would be the first bullet-point on my list, too.

The stage production is one of those things where the fun part is almost entirely in the creative ways your local community theater wrangles all of that ridiculous bullshiat with a production budget of twenty bucks and an expired five dollar coupon to The Sizzler.  The full-on megabudget broadway interpretation is... ehhh.

// Also it's structured as a variety show, essentially, making that into a cinematic production was always going to be a "toss out that script and write a new one based on your memory of what you just read" deal.  Even the Muppet Movies largely set aside the show's central purpose and format when making movies, man.


A huge problem with the movie version of Rent, their decision to cast as many of the original actors as possible. Actors in their late 20s can get away with playing characters in their early 20s on stage. Actors in their late 30s on film? Not so much. And their performances came across as if they had being doing these roles for way too long. They all just seemed tired.

Zero surprise that the two good performances, Rosario Dawson and Tracie Thoms, were the only two not from the original cast.
 
2020-08-03 9:52:27 AM  
We cower in our shelters
With our hands over our ears
Lloyd-Webber's awful stuff
Runs for years and years and years
An earthquake hits the theatre
But the operetta lingers
Then the piano lids comes down
And break his farking fingers
It's a miracle
 
2020-08-03 9:54:24 AM  

gunga galunga: Jim_Callahan: In fairness, while it didn't actually work this time, if I were making a new version of Cats and wanted it to actually be good "make sure no one involved in the original is allowed within a kilometer of the production at any time" would be the first bullet-point on my list, too.

The stage production is one of those things where the fun part is almost entirely in the creative ways your local community theater wrangles all of that ridiculous bullshiat with a production budget of twenty bucks and an expired five dollar coupon to The Sizzler.  The full-on megabudget broadway interpretation is... ehhh.

// Also it's structured as a variety show, essentially, making that into a cinematic production was always going to be a "toss out that script and write a new one based on your memory of what you just read" deal.  Even the Muppet Movies largely set aside the show's central purpose and format when making movies, man.

A huge problem with the movie version of Rent, their decision to cast as many of the original actors as possible. Actors in their late 20s can get away with playing characters in their early 20s on stage. Actors in their late 30s on film? Not so much. And their performances came across as if they had being doing these roles for way too long. They all just seemed tired.

Zero surprise that the two good performances, Rosario Dawson and Tracie Thoms, were the only two not from the original cast.


Okay, not what you're talking about at all, but in my defense, I just woke up and still getting through my first cup of coffee.
 
2020-08-03 10:38:23 AM  
I had never seen Cats but was aware of it, as I enjoy and have seen a few Broadway plays during my life. My partner was very into it and was so excited she put it on my calendar 6 months in advance that we were going to watch it.
Without any context, my feeling was that for a dystopian future musical where cats had taken over the world as the dominant evolved species and created a mythology around the idea that the cat-people had 9 lives, it wasn't exactly my cup of tea (too much dancing in this future.) And it certainly could have us we some exposition, maybe a Star Wars-esque trailer at the beginning and end telling us this information without just coming at full media-res (I think I'm using that right.)

Anyway, she informed me that that was not what Cats was about at all. It was based on a TS Elliot poem she said. It was about the frivolity of Cats. This made the me feel gross about watching Cats the movie. But if I just close my eyes I can easily tell myself it was just a "sci-fi musical with a wondering plot. I mean, Wtf was the Dune movie? It had a wondering plot that really made no sense. And Dr. Horrible was a sci-fi musical and that was good... Right. It was just a bad version of those two things....

Right?!?
 
2020-08-03 11:22:57 AM  

Dangl1ng: I had never seen Cats but was aware of it, as I enjoy and have seen a few Broadway plays during my life. My partner was very into it and was so excited she put it on my calendar 6 months in advance that we were going to watch it.
Without any context, my feeling was that for a dystopian future musical where cats had taken over the world as the dominant evolved species and created a mythology around the idea that the cat-people had 9 lives, it wasn't exactly my cup of tea (too much dancing in this future.) And it certainly could have us we some exposition, maybe a Star Wars-esque trailer at the beginning and end telling us this information without just coming at full media-res (I think I'm using that right.)

Anyway, she informed me that that was not what Cats was about at all. It was based on a TS Elliot poem she said. It was about the frivolity of Cats. This made the me feel gross about watching Cats the movie. But if I just close my eyes I can easily tell myself it was just a "sci-fi musical with a wondering plot. I mean, Wtf was the Dune movie? It had a wondering plot that really made no sense. And Dr. Horrible was a sci-fi musical and that was good... Right. It was just a bad version of those two things....

Right?!?


No comment other than ALW should get right to work on Mandy: The Musical.
 
2020-08-03 12:11:11 PM  
Do the '70s thing and keep the play, but re-wardrobe the actors into South American revolutionaries, or Wall Street bankers, or Pentagon wankjobs.


/  in the early '80s, saw a production of "Julius Caesar" done as South American revolutionaries
// guards had fake machine guns
/// actually worked out okay
 
2020-08-03 12:57:06 PM  

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IIRC, the answer was, "JFK often fell asleep at night listening to the soundtrack of this musical"

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2020-08-03 2:57:42 PM  

tom baker's scarf: "Andrew Lloyd Webber Says Movie Adaptation Of 'Cats' Was "Ridiculous""

sure sure but the live action, stage version of cats was in no way ridiculous.  yeah that's the ticket.


The actual interview is behind a paywall on the Times' website and TFA makes it ambiguous if he is calling the movie ridiculous, or if he is stating that that Tom Hooper did not ask those involved with the original production for their creative input as ridiculous. The latter is perhaps more likely given that ALW is notorious for being a control freak over his work and most likely resented having his involvement for the movie limited to just co-writing a new song for the movie with Taylor Swift.
 
2020-08-03 3:43:01 PM  
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Pretty sure Andrew Lloyd Weber feels the same way.
 
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