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(Daily Mail)   Melbourne enters Stage 4 pandemic lock down for six weeks after a surge of 600 cases, or approximately how many tested positive for the virus in Iowa last week   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2020-08-02 10:32:06 PM  
You better run, you better take cover
 
2020-08-03 2:25:28 AM  
There were a few days in St. Louis County last week that hit 600.
 
2020-08-03 3:07:33 AM  
They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-am​e​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between the hours of 8pm and 5am is to get care, to give care, or to go to and from work or be at work," Mr Andrews said.
"We can no longer have people visiting others. We can no longer have people simply out and about for no good reason whatsoever.
"Anybody breaking that curfew, you run the risk of being caught and run the risk of being fined," he said.
"And we always reserve the right not just to fine you on the spot, but to take you to court - and then it's not $1652, it's actually $10,000."
The restrictions include no longer being able to leave further than a 5km radius from your home.
One person from the home can go shopping within the 5km radius.
Exercise is now no longer described as "recreational" and can only be taken for one hour and no further than 5km from home.
"That means it's fresh air," Mr Andrews said.
"Where you slept last night is where you'll need to stay for the next six weeks. There'll be exemptions for partners who live apart and for work, if required."
Weddings will be completely banned from Thursday.
"Funerals are unchanged for the wedding will not be occurring in Melbourne unless there is a compassionate reason, and there are often circumstances where someone may not have a very long to live, for instance. We will be as generous as we can be," he said.


Dear Dotard, Australia is kicking America's ass. They are tired of your shiat.
 
2020-08-03 5:24:44 AM  

Dahnkster: Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans)


You're a current New Orleanian? I've always read your posts but didn't know. Piqued my interest so I checked your profile. ER RN? We've met, I promise. Tulane, UMC, Touro, Ocshner...have been to all. It's not my overall health; am accident-prone. It's not just my motorcycle habit it's other dumb sh*t like fights that I don't start or breaking my big toe while trying to pee in the middle of the night. It's a miracle to be in my 40s!

My mother was, get this, a flight nurse. I have always respected her. As you can imagine she put her time in the ER. I've heard the stories and I think I get it despite not being a nurse. Salute to you, ER savior!
 
2020-08-03 5:38:05 AM  
They have been announcing the future plans so there is a rush of people going out before things close.  They did this when they closed the bar the 2nd time, the required mask, and closing the big box hardware chain.  At work we now have to stand down our  admin staff but most of them can work from home since we are a mostly IT company.

The talking head on ABC just said "thank you for your sacrifice" in the most American way to the people in the lock down area.  ABC here is like PBS in the US and has about a billion dollar budget and is considered by the right as being liberal hippy commie press.

At least most of the ICU patients are not on ventilators yet and ICU isn't full but the medical staff is getting warn out.

R0 is currently 1.16 with last weeks lockdown.
 
2020-08-03 5:54:11 AM  

Alphax: There were a few days in St. Louis County last week that hit 600.


With the governor doing nothing, the County decided on new restrictions.

'Well, we're closing the bars by 10 pm..'

Me: 'Come on, take this seriously!'
 
2020-08-03 6:01:06 AM  

dickfreckle: You're a current New Orleanian? I've always read your posts but didn't know. Piqued my interest so I checked your profile. ER RN? We've met, I promise. Tulane, UMC, Touro, Ocshner...have been to all. It's not my overall health; am accident-prone. It's not just my motorcycle habit it's other dumb sh*t like fights that I don't start or breaking my big toe while trying to pee in the middle of the night. It's a miracle to be in my 40s!


Charity Hospital. 20 years. Full-time ER Trauma RN 7p-7a. Proud member of the "New Orleans Gun & Knife Club" (sarcasm).  Loved the job. I keep a cypress river camp in the Atchafalaya River Basin these days and a home in the Florida panhandle. My dad was jazz musician (alto & tenor sax, clarinet and drums) and played with Lawrence Welk Band and Pete Fountain band
 
2020-08-03 6:22:08 AM  

Dahnkster: dickfreckle: You're a current New Orleanian? I've always read your posts but didn't know. Piqued my interest so I checked your profile. ER RN? We've met, I promise. Tulane, UMC, Touro, Ocshner...have been to all. It's not my overall health; am accident-prone. It's not just my motorcycle habit it's other dumb sh*t like fights that I don't start or breaking my big toe while trying to pee in the middle of the night. It's a miracle to be in my 40s!

Charity Hospital. 20 years. Full-time ER Trauma RN 7p-7a. Proud member of the "New Orleans Gun & Knife Club" (sarcasm).  Loved the job. I keep a cypress river camp in the Atchafalaya River Basin these days and a home in the Florida panhandle. My dad was jazz musician (alto & tenor sax, clarinet and drums) and played with Lawrence Welk Band and Pete Fountain band


Holy sh*t, Charity? Welp, you're officially the badass mofo I'm meeting today. And don't get me started on music or I'll be here all day.
 
2020-08-03 8:33:27 AM  
vegemite sandwich
 
2020-08-03 8:43:59 AM  
Wondering how many people think that a town in FL is going into stage 4 lockdown.
 
2020-08-03 8:45:45 AM  

Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between the hours of 8pm and 5am is to get care, to give care, or to go to and from work or be at work," Mr Andrews said.
"We can no longer have people visiting others. We can no longer have people simply out and about for no good reason whatsoever.
"Anybody breaking that curfew, you run the risk of being caught and run the risk of being fined," he said.
"And we always reserve the right not just to fine you on the spot, but to take you to court - and then it's not $1652, it's actually $10,000."
The restrictions include no longer being able to leave further than a 5km radius from your home.
One person from the home can go shopping within the 5km radius.
Exercise is now no longer described as "recreational" and can only be taken for one hour and no further than 5km from home.
"That means it's fresh air," Mr Andrews said.
"Where you slept last night is where you'll need to stay for the next six weeks. There'll be exemptions for partners who live apart and for work, if required."
Weddings will be completely banned from Thursday.
"Funerals are unchanged for the wedding will not be occurring in Melbourne unless there is a compassionate reason, and there are often circumstances where someone may not have a very long to live, for instance. We will be as generous as we can be," he said.

Dear Dotard, Australia is kicking America's ass. They are tired of your shiat.


So with all of that, explain again why they have to take matters a step further due to a surge in cases? I mean, if any of what they were doing was working, we'd be hearing about a dramatic decline.

Maybe this time without a wall of text.
 
2020-08-03 8:47:54 AM  
I can't offer much commentary or insight on previous posts, so I'll just add that Iowa is blowing it right now on getting this under control, with a shiat-eating governor at the helm.
 
2020-08-03 8:49:18 AM  
How many positives because of a cold or false positive? Hope they're double checking.
 
2020-08-03 8:50:12 AM  
Makes sense.  When 78% of PCR confirmed patients are experiencing inflammatory myocarditis 30 days after respiratory clearance you have to wonder if you're dealing with a disease that is 78% fatal over an interval of a few years.
 
2020-08-03 8:53:11 AM  
It may shock and surprise you to hear that Murdoch-owned press is publishing option columns saying that there is no scientific proof that masks are effective in a pandemic and that declaring a disaster and locking down a city during a pandemic outbreak is anti-freedom.

This is a columnist's hot take...

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And here is another one suggesting we shouldn't put the entire city under lockdown just so some old people can live a couple of months longer.

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2020-08-03 8:55:13 AM  
Hold my beer...we had that many in Central Florida in one day
 
2020-08-03 8:56:27 AM  

Deep Contact: How many positives because of a cold or false positive? Hope they're double checking.


None.  PCR doesn't misidentify.  It only fails when it fails find an infection because the area swabbed is clean.  It's pretty common to miss an infection with PCR because the pharyngeal cavity is more of a place where SARS-CoV-2 likes to visit than a place where it lives.  Lung biopsies would be far more accurate, but they're prohibitively invasive.
 
2020-08-03 8:58:45 AM  

gar1013: Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between the hours o ...


Essentially because a bunch of people broke the rules. One guy was caught playing Pokemon Go (people still do that?) or they were travelling right across the to the other side of the city to "go to the supermarket". There was Karen who had 'done all of Brighton' and wanted to go exercise somewhere else.

Not to mention the multiple security staff who were meant to mind the people in quarantine, who shagged one of those people in quarantine. Since they were willing to shag someone with corona they clearly aren't fussy and therefore probably shagged anyone else that didn't downright object around Melbourne also.
 
2020-08-03 9:00:52 AM  
Here's a good joke doing the rounds from the English comedian Ross Noble ho lives just outside of Melbourne in rural Victoria.

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2020-08-03 9:05:26 AM  

ansius: It may shock and surprise you to hear that Murdoch-owned press is publishing option columns saying that there is no scientific proof that masks are effective in a pandemic and that declaring a disaster and locking down a city during a pandemic outbreak is anti-freedom.

This is a columnist's hot take...

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And here is another one suggesting we shouldn't put the entire city under lockdown just so some old people can live a couple of months longer.

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"Please don't get anyone sick" is oppression?  I hope that person gets sick and dies.
 
2020-08-03 9:10:27 AM  

ansius: It may shock and surprise you to hear that Murdoch-owned press is publishing option columns saying that there is no scientific proof that masks are effective in a pandemic and that declaring a disaster and locking down a city during a pandemic outbreak is anti-freedom.

This is a columnist's hot take...

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And here is another one suggesting we shouldn't put the entire city under lockdown just so some old people can live a couple of months longer.

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The whole murdoch empire needs to be nuked from orbit. His sons are worse than him.
 
2020-08-03 9:12:22 AM  

blodyholy: I can't offer much commentary or insight on previous posts, so I'll just add that Iowa is blowing it right now on getting this under control, with a shiat-eating governor at the helm.


They're spreading the disease on purpose.  It's culling time...gotta wonder if 20% of all people carry a variant of a gene that prevents SARS-CoV-2 from penetrating the heart or brain.
 
2020-08-03 9:18:46 AM  

ansius: Wondering how many people think that a town in FL is going into stage 4 lockdown.


The Florida city was named after the Aussie one which was the richest city in the world at the time due to a gold boom.  At that time ice was shipped from Walden Pond in Mass for drinks where it added about $20 to a drink that cost $0.10.
 
2020-08-03 9:19:41 AM  

Dahnkster: Collingwood-Freemantle match


Oh that was a fun match to watch.

I thought the Aussies had this more under control, after their honest government ads telling people what the exact issue was with the virus and how to deal with it:

Honest Government Ad | Coronavirus: Flatten The Curve
Youtube Hks6Nq7g6P4

/nsfw language
 
2020-08-03 9:24:12 AM  

Deathbymeteor: Honest Government Ad


That was beautiful!
 
2020-08-03 9:26:40 AM  

Nidiot: gar1013: Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between the hours o ...

Essentially because a bunch of people broke the rules. One guy was caught playing Pokemon Go (people still do that?) or they were travelling right across the to the other side of the city to "go to the supermarket". There was Karen who had 'done all of Brighton' and wanted to go exercise somewhere else.

Not to mention the multiple security staff who were meant to mind the people in quarantine, who shagged one of those people in quarantine. Since they were willing to shag someone with corona they clearly aren't fussy and therefore probably shagged anyone else that didn't downright object around Melbourne also.


In other words, lockdowns don't work all that well.
 
2020-08-03 9:32:37 AM  
Murdoch-owned TV criticising the Victorian Premier for not lifting restrictions on businesses fast enough as Melbourne was in the early stages of the outbreak.

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2020-08-03 9:38:39 AM  
Clive Palmer is in court trying to stop the Western Australia lockdown so he can fly his private jet there.

Palmer wanted to build a replica of the Titanic and owns coal mines.
 
2020-08-03 9:39:36 AM  

ansius: It may shock and surprise you to hear that Murdoch-owned press is publishing option columns saying that there is no scientific proof that masks are effective in a pandemic and that declaring a disaster and locking down a city during a pandemic outbreak is anti-freedom.

This is a columnist's hot take...

[Fark user image 480x960]

And here is another one suggesting we shouldn't put the entire city under lockdown just so some old people can live a couple of months longer.

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Ah, Andrew Bolt. Australia's equivalent to Sean Hannity.
 
2020-08-03 9:39:53 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: blodyholy: I can't offer much commentary or insight on previous posts, so I'll just add that Iowa is blowing it right now on getting this under control, with a shiat-eating governor at the helm.

They're spreading the disease on purpose.  It's culling time...gotta wonder if 20% of all people carry a variant of a gene that prevents SARS-CoV-2 from penetrating the heart or brain.


Do you mean the government, or the public? Because if it's the latter, I could see that.

From grad parties, to bars/restaurants reopening and not enforcing social distancing, to going back to school, the people in this state sure seem ok with killing more people.
 
2020-08-03 9:40:08 AM  
Iowa population 3,155,070.

Melbourne population 4,963,349.

Both have "600 cases"

What point are you trying to make, Subby?
 
2020-08-03 9:44:10 AM  

gar1013: Nidiot: gar1013: Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home be ...

In other words, lockdowns don't work all that well.



They did the first time around, they will again.

The original lockdown started Monday 23rd March and was loosened in most states 50 days later on the 27th of April.

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The new laws introduced in Victoria will allow police extra powers to enforce the lockdown which too many people have been ignoring.
 
2020-08-03 9:53:47 AM  
They have some interesting stats here.  It is interesting the age and geographical distribution isn't what
most people expect.
(when that breaks... https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/​coronavirus -> "view full report" under total lives lost)

The state of Victoria has about the same area and population as Missouri but only has the one major city of Melbourne.  The close other cities of Adelaide and Sydney are an 8 hour road trip away so there isn't the intercity driving traffic that is common in the USA.
 
2020-08-03 10:10:11 AM  

Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between the hours of 8pm and ...


Enjoy your smug while you can because Kangarooville isn't looking like a model of global responsibility right now.

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2020-08-03 10:10:39 AM  
I think curfews for this pandemic are stupid.  Authorities should actually encourage the opposite-encourage stores to be open for longer hours.  If their hours are shortened, as in a curfew, everybody crowds together during the few hours they are open-it is the opposite of social distancing.
 
2020-08-03 10:11:04 AM  

Deep Contact: How many positives because of a cold or false positive? Hope they're double checking.


False positives are dangerous and to be feared?  Non-symptomatics who are untested carriers are what you should worry about.
 
2020-08-03 10:13:07 AM  

ansius: gar1013: Nidiot: gar1013: Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home be ...

In other words, lockdowns don't work all that well.


They did the first time around, they will again.

The original lockdown started Monday 23rd March and was loosened in most states 50 days later on the 27th of April.

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The new laws introduced in Victoria will allow police extra powers to enforce the lockdown which too many people have been ignoring.


By what metric are you determining their success?  It looks like things got worse after the lockdown period ended and you allow for time for critical mass to be reached.

Also, what cost was associated with all of that versus people that dodged the virus and didn't get it on the next go around?

When you "flatten the curve" you don't decrease the area under it - you simply extended how far it goes out.
 
2020-08-03 10:13:59 AM  

Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between the hours of 8pm and 5am is to get care, to give care, or to go to and from work or be at work," Mr Andrews said.
"We can no longer have people visiting others. We can no longer have people simply out and about for no good reason whatsoever.
"Anybody breaking that curfew, you run the risk of being caught and run the risk of being fined," he said.
"And we always reserve the right not just to fine you on the spot, but to take you to court - and then it's not $1652, it's actually $10,000."
The restrictions include no longer being able to leave further than a 5km radius from your home.
One person from the home can go shopping within the 5km radius.
Exercise is now no longer described as "recreational" and can only be taken for one hour and no further than 5km from home.
"That means it's fresh air," Mr Andrews said.
"Where you slept last night is where you'll need to stay for the next six weeks. There'll be exemptions for partners who live apart and for work, if required."
Weddings will be completely banned from Thursday.
"Funerals are unchanged for the wedding will not be occurring in Melbourne unless there is a compassionate reason, and there are often circumstances where someone may not have a very long to live, for instance. We will be as generous as we can be," he said.

Dear Dotard, Australia is kicking America's ass. They are tired of your shiat.


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This is from an Australian satire tv show. Pretty spot on, unfortunately.
 
2020-08-03 10:15:08 AM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between the hours of 8pm and ...

Enjoy your smug while you can because Kangarooville isn't looking like a model of global responsibility right now.

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I always think of it as Spiderland.
 
2020-08-03 10:37:33 AM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Enjoy your smug while you can because Kangarooville isn't looking like a model of global responsibility right now.


At least they are farking making an effort. The only thing I am "smug" about is watching an orange POS pretend we are doing better than the rest of the world.

Sure looks like even with their recent surge, they are doing a much better job than US. But sure, lets pretend that the guy who called it a "hoax" and STILL says it will "JUST GO AWAY" is not a shiat-bag. So "Kangarooville" as you so eloquently put it, is doing a better job than "Lets-lie-about-it-and-ignore-it-and-d​o-as-little-as-possible-about-it-ville​" is "winning". Also your chart is useless without context...

https://www.ussc.edu.au/analysis/aust​r​alia-and-the-united-states-by-the-numb​ers
 
2020-08-03 10:37:39 AM  

blodyholy: I can't offer much commentary or insight on previous posts, so I'll just add that Iowa is blowing it right now on getting this under control, with a shiat-eating governor at the helm.


My aunt lives in Iowa, she is somewhat displeased with her governor's handling of the COVID situation, to put it extremely mildly.  The school district her kids attend is currently suing the governor over her order that all schools have to go back to at least 50% in-person instruction when the new school year starts.
 
2020-08-03 11:31:35 AM  

Nocrash: Deep Contact: How many positives because of a cold or false positive? Hope they're double checking.

False positives are dangerous and to be feared?  Non-symptomatics who are untested carriers are what you should worry about.


If you want to be locked in like a prisoner for six weeks for something that is only dangerous to old people with underlying health conditions, then yeah.
 
2020-08-03 11:36:11 AM  

gar1013: Maybe this time without a wall of text.


aww, nuance and reading is hard, I know.  Perhaps My Pet Goat is more your speed, pumpkin.
 
2020-08-03 11:49:30 AM  

Deep Contact: Nocrash: Deep Contact: How many positives because of a cold or false positive? Hope they're double checking.

False positives are dangerous and to be feared?  Non-symptomatics who are untested carriers are what you should worry about.

If you want to be locked in like a prisoner for six weeks for something that is only dangerous to old people with underlying health conditions, then yeah.


Four lies in one sentence... well done.
 
2020-08-03 11:52:16 AM  

Polish Hussar: blodyholy: I can't offer much commentary or insight on previous posts, so I'll just add that Iowa is blowing it right now on getting this under control, with a shiat-eating governor at the helm.

My aunt lives in Iowa, she is somewhat displeased with her governor's handling of the COVID situation, to put it extremely mildly.  The school district her kids attend is currently suing the governor over her order that all schools have to go back to at least 50% in-person instruction when the new school year starts.


I too live in Iowa, and my S.O. is a kindergarten teacher in the second largest school district in Iowa (Cedar Rapids Community). I can't blame them for suing, and completely support that effort.

She has underlying medical conditions, and although many would argue "just don't go back", the truth of the matter is that we need income, and teaching this age group remotely, especially given the socioeconomic status/demographic of her students, just wouldn't work.

I'm at an impasse on what should be done here.
 
2020-08-03 12:03:55 PM  

Lumber Jack Off: This is from an Australian satire tv show. Pretty spot on, unfortunately.


Juice Media does a great job with their Honest Government Ads, even the PG versions.
 
2020-08-03 12:44:30 PM  

cnocnanrionnag: Iowa population 3,155,070.

Melbourne population 4,963,349.

Both have "600 cases"

What point are you trying to make, Subby?


I think the point being made is this:

Square miles of Iowa: 56,272
Square miles of Melbourne: 3,858

Melbourne has a population density of 1286.5  people per square mile. Iowa has a population density of 56.1 people per square mile. COVID Kim has found a way for a state with less population that's spread out more to have as many new cases as a major world city. Clear as mud...
 
2020-08-03 3:23:52 PM  

Nidiot: gar1013: Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be out of your home between th ...


All private security firms are run by criminals and staffed by morons, whoever thought it was a good idea to have them guarding quarantine sites was a farking imbecile.
 
2020-08-03 3:31:43 PM  
And because America is too stupid in general to pay heed, our plague rats will continue to whine about not being able to get their venti triple soy caf latte at the nearest Starschmuck's without a mask, because 'MURICA, amirite?
 
2020-08-03 4:11:37 PM  

gar1013: ansius: gar1013: Nidiot: gar1013: Dahnkster: They are playing footy again in Perth. I think about 20,000 people yesterday at Collingwood-Freemantle match. Only one or two cases in that area. (Go the Pies!)

Melbourne is another story. They have been shut down hard for an additional 4 weeks following the 600 cases there. I'm talking about full lock-down. Huge cash fines for driving around outside your home. They are working 24/7 towards enforcement of contact tracing. The new restrictions also include a night-time curfew in Melbourne between 8pm and 5am. My friends in the Footscray and St. Kilda neighborhoods tell me there are roadblocks and people not allowed anywhere near beach or vacation areas (Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas... Geelong, Barwons Head, Point Lonsdale)  All restaurants are take out only. No bars, no gyms, no theaters, no church, no school, no university...no exceptions. Plenty of Aussies pissed off after stammering yam mentioned them as a country that was not doing such a good job.

I'm not surprising anyone here that Cheetolini is a liar and a global laughing stock. Perhaps you will find it refreshing that most of Australia thinks he is a POS....

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ame​rica/as-us-cases-soar-trump-says-austr​alia-has-tremendous-problems-20200731-​p55h8e.html

My friends tell me it's going to be a long time until I get to come visit them again.  They are correct we were an abject failure at controlling this pandemic. Back in early March, my Australian friends (visiting in New Orleans) were contacted by their government and told to come home. They were warned they might not be able to return if they did not leave then. They also warned them that US was not prepared for what was coming.  But sure you orange diaper stain... "Nobody knew about this". Fark you and your "Ginah" lies.  Fark you and your lies. Fark you to the cultist and racists that voted for this. Fark you GOP for creating and enabling this.

"The only reason to be ou ...

By what metric are you determining their success?  It looks like things got worse after the lockdown period ended and you allow for time for critical mass to be reached.

Also, what cost was associated with all of that versus people that dodged the virus and didn't get it on the next go around?

When you "flatten the curve" you don't decrease the area under it - you simply extended how far it goes out.


This outbreak is localised to one city and state. All the other states have restricted travel from it until they get their outbreak under control and are still economically open. Graph below breaks it down by regions. The first wave was widespread. The second wave is a large local outbreak confined to one location. So yes, for the other regions, the initial lockdown was a large success.

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Also, when you flatten the curve, don't simply extend how far out it goes. You do several things:

1. you do actually reduce the area under the curve and reduce the total amount of cases
2. you reduce the total amount of deaths
3. you reduce the total amount of hospitalisations
4. you reduce the as yet unknown risk of long-term health complications and disabilities that are only now being identified
5. you increase business confidence so that investment is maintained
6. you increase consumer confidence so that people spend rather than save
7. you increase economic activity as people go out and work, play, socialise.

you can't have economic activity until you control the virus.

until there's a vaccine, the only way to control the virus is with non-pharmacological means to restrict transmission.
 
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