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(Business Insider)   The airline industry claims it won't recover until 2024   ( divider line
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2020-08-02 5:45:32 PM  
16 votes:
I think the only way out of this for these companies is to add more fees and give massive bonuses to executive leadership.
2020-08-03 2:12:24 AM  
7 votes:
I'd play my tiny violin for them, but they broke it.
2020-08-02 6:32:47 PM  
4 votes:
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2020-08-02 5:37:32 PM  
2 votes:
And not a single person will give a shiat.

They've spent the last decade treating passengers like we are unwanted cargo. Maybe now they'll see passengers are important to their business.
2020-08-03 5:21:42 AM  
1 vote:

eurotrader: US airlines using Ryanair as the norm instead of an extreme I still think is part of the problem.

That's because customers apparently look for Ryanair prices first, and are largely booking the cheapest fares they find on expedia and kayak.

Airlines make most of their money in business and first. They would tear up the entire cattle class tomorrow, and replace it with business class seats if they could get enough people to pay to fly business.

It's the same reason why "buy American" is nothing but a slogan. (It's also a dumb idea, but that's not the point).
People say they want quality but for the most part gravitate towards the lowest price they can get. Especially now that flying is largely a commodity and not special at all.
2020-08-03 3:23:41 AM  
1 vote:

Cubansaltyballs: And not a single person will give a shiat.

They've spent the last decade treating passengers like we are unwanted cargo. Maybe now they'll see passengers are important to their business.

I hear that shiat all the time. The airlines say they give such crap seating and service because Americans want to fly for "cheap," and so, you get what you pay for.

That argument, to me, is such bullshiat. The more people who use your services, the more money you can make.

As far as not paying much for the luxury to get from Denver to Florida in five hours, versus by ship, is no excuse anymore. Airplanes are common nowadays. A good pilot is worth paying for, but he/she isn't getting the majority of their profits, it's the share holders. And many don't even know how to farking fly!

Flying is incredible, but it's not a unique experience anymore. The fact that folks don't even dress up to fly anymore, goes to show that it's a fairly common mode of transportation. I like that when I was in college, I could actually save up enough money to afford to fly home for Christmas, and the summer. Until then, I spent the first two years of college riding a Greyhound bus. Feeling groggy and icky from not having showered for a couple of days absolutely sucks. I couldn't imagine what it's like to be homeless.

I can't see how airlines could fail. They'd have to cut some flights, but most of that was handled by puddle jumpers anyway. If you're gonna complain that Americans are not grateful enough to deserve the privilege to fly, you keep it cheap, and make us work for it. Regulate luggage sizes, and carry ons. Ban any emotional support animal that isn't a dog or cat. Tell folks shiat like pajamas, tiny tops and too tight clothing is an unnecessary, and for some, uncomfortable distraction. If they can't dress business casual, they don't get to fly.

The customer isn't always right. The customer will turn on you, and end up getting much more out of you than they paid for. And the customer can force you into making changes and adding to expenses. We know alligators are not the type of support animal that needs to be allowed to out with its owner. If he is  is such a introvert, he needs to be exposed to the fact that the  world ain't about him, and if he insists on making others feel uncomfortable, his therapist needs to write a letter explaining exactly why his psychosis should be accommodated over others people's wishe on the plsne.

Or better yet, have airline exclusively for those people..Put hay on the floor to give it that authentic farm experience.
2020-08-03 3:06:59 AM  
1 vote:
Living in a country with 4 seasons, I see no reason to give a shiat. We built a farking railroad in the 1860s from coast to coast, and there's a 365 day road to the Arctic Ocean's coastline, now. Let the airlines be for deliveries, medical transport, and occasional vacations. Hell, let's ration annual flights per person, for climate change.

My country invented pontoon planes and bush pilots. We can get by with propellers instead of jumbo jets.
2020-08-02 9:23:31 PM  
1 vote:
Uhmmm. Don't miss it. Sure I miss traveling, but I don't miss flying. They get what's coming to them.'s a 20th century innovation. But with zoom and teleconferencing a lot of businesses are saying whoa...we can save money on airfare, all those business meals, and hotels while Johnny project manager works from home. No need to be in person.

My last experiences flying international in 2019 to Europe on American sucked so bad it was unreal. I was even upped to extended coach and business. It was gross. I don't eat the food...I got chicken gristle once that turned my stomach. I usually just sleep...but no. They have to have all the freaking lights on contrary to all science about how to arrive without jet lag. Duty free? Why would I buy duty free on the damned plane?  By the time they finally put the lights out we were two hours from Frankfurt.

The seats sucked, flight attendants sucked. Only thing nice was the 787 window, but I felt like Homer Simpson. Light goes on...light goes off...light goes on...light goes off.

Sorry. A little flashback...
2020-08-02 5:40:41 PM  
1 vote:
Considering at least one major airline will be bankrupt in the next year the US airlines are not going to have 2019 passenger numbers until maybe 2030. Idiot trump and his failure to exhibit any competency is the biggest reason.
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