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2020-08-01 11:19:05 PM  
Remember who we are: America, an experiment in democracy, not fascism.

We've been held hostage by this GOP cult for the past 40-odd years.

We're going to need to deprogram the entire country with civics classes and history lessons and basic logic and math classes.
 
2020-08-01 11:23:20 PM  
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2020-08-01 11:23:50 PM  
Stop buying the hell out of every book about him, clicking on every link and getting worked up about every stupid tweet?  And vote.  You're not learning anything new or essential, you're just wallowing, and spreading it.  We all know everything that we need to know about him; go vote.  Until November, try to do something decent for decent people and stop nursing yourself on garbage
 
2020-08-01 11:24:16 PM  
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2020-08-01 11:34:49 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Remember who we are: America, an experiment in democracy, not fascism.

We've been held hostage by this GOP cult for the past 40-odd years.

We're going to need to deprogram the entire country with civics classes and history lessons and basic logic and math classes.


The Middle Class had a good run. What was before the Great Depression? Not a large middle class. Historically we have lived in a "prosperous" era for non wealthy people.
 
2020-08-01 11:46:15 PM  
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2020-08-01 11:50:36 PM  
Prosecute every last grafter, enabler, and fellow-traveler. Build new prisons, if it comes to that.
No truth & reconcilation commission. No mercy.
 
2020-08-02 12:17:02 AM  
"And damned be he that first cries 'Ho! Enough!'."
 
2020-08-02 12:22:15 AM  

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I'd love to see Stephen Miller in Eichmann's glass booth.
 
2020-08-02 12:33:58 AM  
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2020-08-02 12:35:04 AM  

Nadie_AZ: GreatGlavinsGhost: Remember who we are: America, an experiment in democracy, not fascism.

We've been held hostage by this GOP cult for the past 40-odd years.

We're going to need to deprogram the entire country with civics classes and history lessons and basic logic and math classes.

The Middle Class had a good run. What was before the Great Depression? Not a large middle class. Historically we have lived in a "prosperous" era for non wealthy people.


The GOP has conditioned Americans to see this country from their perspective, with their myths, their take on history, their skewed language.

I have no idea how the GOP depicts the American dream, because I don't think I'd recognize what a conservative middle class would look like.
 
2020-08-02 1:06:37 AM  
 
2020-08-02 1:30:48 AM  
Good luck. It won't happen in my lifetime.

Here's the unfortunate truth. It's not the Boomers you need to worry about. It's GenX. For every boomer dying off, there's a 40-something man or woman who is attending every Trump rally, listening full stop to Tucker & Hannity, and buying every conspiracy theory hook, line & sinker.

You think this is done with the Boomers? You are sorely mistaken.
 
2020-08-02 1:32:58 AM  
I don't see how you can deal with the Trump faction unless you find a way to take Fox News et al out of the equation.

As long as they can get away with feeding BS to the masses under the banner of 'free speech' the US is always going to be vulnerable to demagogues who tell the stupid people to blame immigrants and minorities for their failings
 
2020-08-02 1:38:18 AM  

fluffy_pope: Prosecute every last grafter, enabler, and fellow-traveler. Build new prisons, if it comes to that.
No truth & reconcilation commission. No mercy.


You have to bear in mind that Trump will issue a blanket pardon to every member of the GOP.

I'd love to see that challenged legally (in my dreams they prosecute them anyway, then cart them off to Guantanamo Bay to serve their sentence, out of reach of any Republican appeal courts) but that's a bit of a long shot.

My hope is that one of the first things a Biden admin does is beef up the IRS and send them after all the GOP functionaries and Trump appointed judges, on the basis that they believe themselves above the law and are bound to have committed criminal offences with their tax returns. (The Al Capone strategy)
 
2020-08-02 1:53:56 AM  
It's simple. Show a spine. Stand up against the bullies. Stop being so goddamned meek and cowardly and no longer allow what is basically a minority of loudmouthed morons to overshadow the public debate. 

Trump is the president you deserve because you let it happen. And even if Biden wins the question is how much things really are going to change since your problems run way deeper than what can be solved just by electing a Democrat. 

Be willing to make sacrifices for what you believe in. Get out of your chair, away from your computer and do something actually meaningful.  No more 'I can't afford to protest' bullshiat.  Get out there and do something, whether it is to protest, to campaign, to educate or to support, whether it is local or national, whether you focus on environment, healthcare, social justice, whatever, doesn't even matter, as you long as you do somethinginstead of just complaining and wallowing in defeatist self-pity on the internet.
 
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2020-08-02 1:57:39 AM  
Why don't we use the new 'powers' trumpers think it's acceptable to use against them?

Arrest them with goons without warning or charges, put them in camps, lock their children in cages. Send as many to other countries they have never been to as possible, ensure poor healthcare and no legal representation so as many die as possible.

There are so many possibilities.

Crazy that trumpers think everything I've just suggested is fine, as long as all that happens to people who are not them, isn't it?
 
2020-08-02 2:01:02 AM  

mjjt: fluffy_pope: Prosecute every last grafter, enabler, and fellow-traveler. Build new prisons, if it comes to that.
No truth & reconcilation commission. No mercy.

You have to bear in mind that Trump will issue a blanket pardon to every member of the GOP.


Out of party loyalty? Laughter OL. He'll issue a pardon to every member of the GOP who comes waving a blank check.

My hope is that one of the first things a Biden admin does is beef up the IRS and send them after all the GOP functionaries and Trump appointed judges, on the basis that they believe themselves above the law and are bound to have committed criminal offences with their tax returns. (The Al Capone strategy)

That would certainly help. If for no other reason, to give the IRS its teeth back. I'd like to see a bounty system in place in which clever accountants get a slice of whatever tax-evasion $$$ they unearth.
 
2020-08-02 2:18:45 AM  
Step one would be de-personing corporations.
 
2020-08-02 2:25:08 AM  
*cough* partisanship *cough*
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2020-08-02 3:10:28 AM  
I think we should sit down with conservatives, and really listen to all their fears.

And then I think we should make them all happen.
 
2020-08-02 4:27:59 AM  
I'm beginning to think Covid may accomplish a lot of this for us.
 
2020-08-02 4:48:35 AM  
 
2020-08-02 4:49:56 AM  
 
2020-08-02 5:05:33 AM  
Heavily blanket every media outlet with ads extolling how scientists have conclusively determined that hitting yourself in the head with a hammer is not good for you and under no circumstances should you ever try to hit yourself in the head with a hammer. Ensure that every liberal, especially the Hollywood elite push this message. Should only take a week before every MAGAt has bonked themselves to death to PwN tEh LiBs.
 
2020-08-02 5:05:42 AM  
We MUST take a page from the success of the term, "Deep State".

From now on, the "scary" catchall conspiracy term is DEEP TRUMP.

It must be repeated nonstop, for any story about government lawlessness, or lack of experience, or lack of conscience, or fraud, or downright stupidity.

Trump has spent four years installing his "Deep Trump" operatives, including but not limited to lifelong judges. It will take decades to clean this up.

I want to hear about the scary "Deep Trump" operatives REPEATEDLY from now on. I want every media outlet, every journalist, to not let a day go by that they don't mention Deep Trump, and connect any wrongdoing to Deep Trump, no matter how unlikely it may seem.

I want the term Deep Trump so embedded into our lives that memory of the term Deep State pales by comparison.

DEEP TRUMP OPERATIVES! They must all go!
 
2020-08-02 5:08:16 AM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Good luck. It won't happen in my lifetime.

Here's the unfortunate truth. It's not the Boomers you need to worry about. It's GenX. For every boomer dying off, there's a 40-something man or woman who is attending every Trump rally, listening full stop to Tucker & Hannity, and buying every conspiracy theory hook, line & sinker.

You think this is done with the Boomers? You are sorely mistaken.


Jokes on you. I've seen enough reddit videos to know that all the kids call GenXer's "Boomers" anyway.

I'd posit that who we really have to worry about are the Boomers' kids, like Jared and Ivanka. They're entitled AF and they have Boomer numbers to back up their entitlement. Particularly the second half of Boomers. (Trump doesn't fit the model because he married multiple times and was still reproducing - eww - when Obama was a senator; so while he's a first half Boomer, he had kids when second half Boomers and GenXers had kids)
 
2020-08-02 5:15:51 AM  
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2020-08-02 5:28:08 AM  
Reverse everything he did. Lock him, his family and all his accomplices up. Shut down Fox News. Tax the fark out if the rich.
 
2020-08-02 5:34:36 AM  
Since rural folks seem to prefer fascism over democracy, we need to grow that one large city that all those states seem to have so it eclipses the rural population. Then they won't be able to fark the country over by controlling the Senate. Des Moines, Omaha, Indianapolis, and Louisville all need to be bigger.
 
2020-08-02 5:38:47 AM  
We can't.  There are just too many Trumpistas.
 
2020-08-02 5:48:19 AM  
We don't need to just "de-Trumpify" the country, but give those losers who vote GOP exactly what they vote for when people put those clowns in power. Yes, that means a lot of people will be hurt. Think of it like giving the kids exactly what they want, and it makes them sick, only worse.

Quit funding those rural lifestyles. Those darn lazy people should be paying taxes for their own infrastructure, no more free, big gubbermint, roads. No more free busing for their kids to schools, heck no more ebil gubbermint paying for those schools. Time to end that ebil, nasty, most horrible thing where big gubbermint tries to bring broadband to the rural areas. Those people laces that can't seem to balance anything, stealing more money from the wealthy cities and states? NO MORE COMMIE WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! Pay your own way you lazy farks.

Give them what they vote for, exactly... and let the law of unintended consequences fark them hard. When they whine, remind them that they voted for the talking points.
 
2020-08-02 5:48:46 AM  
If your focus is Trump, we've already lost.
 
2020-08-02 5:51:39 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Heavily blanket every media outlet with ads extolling how scientists have conclusively determined that hitting yourself in the head with a hammer is not good for you and under no circumstances should you ever try to hit yourself in the head with a hammer. Ensure that every liberal, especially the Hollywood elite push this message. Should only take a week before every MAGAt has bonked themselves to death to PwN tEh LiBs.


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2020-08-02 5:55:58 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Remember who we are: America, an experiment in democracy, not fascism.

We've been held hostage by this GOP cult for the past 40-odd years.

We're going to need to deprogram the entire country with civics classes and history lessons and basic logic and math classes.


Yeah, something tells me they're not gonna go for it. Yadda, yadda, liberal indoctrination centers.
 
2020-08-02 5:56:00 AM  

inglixthemad: We don't need to just "de-Trumpify" the country, but give those losers who vote GOP exactly what they vote for when people put those clowns in power. Yes, that means a lot of people will be hurt. Think of it like giving the kids exactly what they want, and it makes them sick, only worse.

Quit funding those rural lifestyles. Those darn lazy people should be paying taxes for their own infrastructure, no more free, big gubbermint, roads. No more free busing for their kids to schools, heck no more ebil gubbermint paying for those schools. Time to end that ebil, nasty, most horrible thing where big gubbermint tries to bring broadband to the rural areas. Those people laces that can't seem to balance anything, stealing more money from the wealthy cities and states? NO MORE COMMIE WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! Pay your own way you lazy farks.

Give them what they vote for, exactly... and let the law of unintended consequences fark them hard. When they whine, remind them that they voted for the talking points.


Yes. Becoming the enemy is the answer.

/your first paragraph was correct
//should've stuck with that
 
2020-08-02 6:00:36 AM  

puffy999: inglixthemad: We don't need to just "de-Trumpify" the country, but give those losers who vote GOP exactly what they vote for when people put those clowns in power. Yes, that means a lot of people will be hurt. Think of it like giving the kids exactly what they want, and it makes them sick, only worse.

Quit funding those rural lifestyles. Those darn lazy people should be paying taxes for their own infrastructure, no more free, big gubbermint, roads. No more free busing for their kids to schools, heck no more ebil gubbermint paying for those schools. Time to end that ebil, nasty, most horrible thing where big gubbermint tries to bring broadband to the rural areas. Those people laces that can't seem to balance anything, stealing more money from the wealthy cities and states? NO MORE COMMIE WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! Pay your own way you lazy farks.

Give them what they vote for, exactly... and let the law of unintended consequences fark them hard. When they whine, remind them that they voted for the talking points.

Yes. Becoming the enemy is the answer.

/your first paragraph was correct
//should've stuck with that


They want it, I say give them what they want mate. They'll be crying, "B-b-but we need money to pay for our kid's busing!" like they did in Wisconsin after Act 10 passed. The Republicans redistributed wealth from those big, mean, ebil cities. That's wrong. Those lazy urban farks should've pulled on their bootstraps and raised their own taxes.
 
2020-08-02 6:00:44 AM  
Invest in education, especially civics, it will take a long time but it is that or let them start a large war and have us get our asses stomped and occupied like Germany post WW2 and de trumpify the nation the hard way.
 
2020-08-02 6:01:45 AM  
Step one is to be like this guy.

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Step two is to not accept their willfully ignorant BS and shame them for it, and don't be patient with them.
 
2020-08-02 6:05:46 AM  

inglixthemad: puffy999: inglixthemad: We don't need to just "de-Trumpify" the country, but give those losers who vote GOP exactly what they vote for when people put those clowns in power. Yes, that means a lot of people will be hurt. Think of it like giving the kids exactly what they want, and it makes them sick, only worse.

Quit funding those rural lifestyles. Those darn lazy people should be paying taxes for their own infrastructure, no more free, big gubbermint, roads. No more free busing for their kids to schools, heck no more ebil gubbermint paying for those schools. Time to end that ebil, nasty, most horrible thing where big gubbermint tries to bring broadband to the rural areas. Those people laces that can't seem to balance anything, stealing more money from the wealthy cities and states? NO MORE COMMIE WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! Pay your own way you lazy farks.

Give them what they vote for, exactly... and let the law of unintended consequences fark them hard. When they whine, remind them that they voted for the talking points.

Yes. Becoming the enemy is the answer.

/your first paragraph was correct
//should've stuck with that

They want it, I say give them what they want mate. They'll be crying, "B-b-but we need money to pay for our kid's busing!" like they did in Wisconsin after Act 10 passed. The Republicans redistributed wealth from those big, mean, ebil cities. That's wrong. Those lazy urban farks should've pulled on their bootstraps and raised their own taxes.


I think it would hurt them more if we were to send the money directed their way toward schools. Educate their children in such a way that they'll loathe their parents for teaching them an erroneous history. Teach their se kids things that they'll slap in tue faces of their ignorant families.

If you want to make them pay, do so in a way they'll remember.
 
2020-08-02 6:06:08 AM  

puffy999: inglixthemad: We don't need to just "de-Trumpify" the country, but give those losers who vote GOP exactly what they vote for when people put those clowns in power. Yes, that means a lot of people will be hurt. Think of it like giving the kids exactly what they want, and it makes them sick, only worse.

Quit funding those rural lifestyles. Those darn lazy people should be paying taxes for their own infrastructure, no more free, big gubbermint, roads. No more free busing for their kids to schools, heck no more ebil gubbermint paying for those schools. Time to end that ebil, nasty, most horrible thing where big gubbermint tries to bring broadband to the rural areas. Those people laces that can't seem to balance anything, stealing more money from the wealthy cities and states? NO MORE COMMIE WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! Pay your own way you lazy farks.

Give them what they vote for, exactly... and let the law of unintended consequences fark them hard. When they whine, remind them that they voted for the talking points.

Yes. Becoming the enemy is the answer.

/your first paragraph was correct
//should've stuck with that


Hate to tell you this, but in the eyes of the far right, we're already "the enemy".

As an example:
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2020-08-02 6:06:34 AM  
Print up about 69,000,000 of these:

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2020-08-02 6:07:38 AM  

puffy999: inglixthemad: puffy999: inglixthemad: We don't need to just "de-Trumpify" the country, but give those losers who vote GOP exactly what they vote for when people put those clowns in power. Yes, that means a lot of people will be hurt. Think of it like giving the kids exactly what they want, and it makes them sick, only worse.

Quit funding those rural lifestyles. Those darn lazy people should be paying taxes for their own infrastructure, no more free, big gubbermint, roads. No more free busing for their kids to schools, heck no more ebil gubbermint paying for those schools. Time to end that ebil, nasty, most horrible thing where big gubbermint tries to bring broadband to the rural areas. Those people laces that can't seem to balance anything, stealing more money from the wealthy cities and states? NO MORE COMMIE WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! Pay your own way you lazy farks.

Give them what they vote for, exactly... and let the law of unintended consequences fark them hard. When they whine, remind them that they voted for the talking points.

Yes. Becoming the enemy is the answer.

/your first paragraph was correct
//should've stuck with that

They want it, I say give them what they want mate. They'll be crying, "B-b-but we need money to pay for our kid's busing!" like they did in Wisconsin after Act 10 passed. The Republicans redistributed wealth from those big, mean, ebil cities. That's wrong. Those lazy urban farks should've pulled on their bootstraps and raised their own taxes.

I think it would hurt them more if we were to send the money directed their way toward schools. Educate their children in such a way that they'll loathe their parents for teaching them an erroneous history. Teach their se kids things that they'll slap in tue faces of their ignorant families.

If you want to make them pay, do so in a way they'll remember.


If that's the case, we'll have to get rid of quite a bit of home schooling.  A lot of indoctrination comes from home.
 
2020-08-02 6:12:51 AM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Good luck. It won't happen in my lifetime.

Here's the unfortunate truth. It's not the Boomers you need to worry about. It's GenX. For every boomer dying off, there's a 40-something man or woman who is attending every Trump rally, listening full stop to Tucker & Hannity, and buying every conspiracy theory hook, line & sinker.

You think this is done with the Boomers? You are sorely mistaken.


Good luck going up against Gen-X, pal.
 
2020-08-02 6:13:04 AM  
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2020-08-02 6:15:20 AM  

OrionXVI: puffy999: inglixthemad: We don't need to just "de-Trumpify" the country, but give those losers who vote GOP exactly what they vote for when people put those clowns in power. Yes, that means a lot of people will be hurt. Think of it like giving the kids exactly what they want, and it makes them sick, only worse.

Quit funding those rural lifestyles. Those darn lazy people should be paying taxes for their own infrastructure, no more free, big gubbermint, roads. No more free busing for their kids to schools, heck no more ebil gubbermint paying for those schools. Time to end that ebil, nasty, most horrible thing where big gubbermint tries to bring broadband to the rural areas. Those people laces that can't seem to balance anything, stealing more money from the wealthy cities and states? NO MORE COMMIE WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! Pay your own way you lazy farks.

Give them what they vote for, exactly... and let the law of unintended consequences fark them hard. When they whine, remind them that they voted for the talking points.

Yes. Becoming the enemy is the answer.

/your first paragraph was correct
//should've stuck with that

Hate to tell you this, but in the eyes of the far right, we're already "the enemy".

As an example:
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I'm familiar. Probably more directly familiar with far right wing threats than most posters on the internets.

But, their assholishness doesn't mean we need to be assholes to them. There's a SLIGHT chance they come around when they see liberals still paying for their stuff..

Also, I like camping. So I want to keep doing that. Sadly conservatives live in the best camping areas...
 
2020-08-02 6:18:46 AM  

OrionXVI: If that's the case, we'll have to get rid of quite a bit of home schooling.  A lot of indoctrination comes from home


We allow too many for-profits to be claimed as non-profits.

The guy who spent a decade running against our local incumbent House representative was formerly a genius in his field, but he went to the dark side and decided to become such a consecutive shill that he created his own "home schooling" plan.
 
2020-08-02 6:21:31 AM  
OrionXVI:

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How much longer do you think those two have to live?
 
2020-08-02 6:25:32 AM  
We cannot. We are a failed experiment.

1776-2020

When you dig a hole, stop digging. We failed in every way.

Unleashing the thing Trump on the world, we deserve everything we get.
 
2020-08-02 6:27:58 AM  
There must be consequences for Trump and his ilk who broke the law. At minimum, investigations into all of his associates. Fines and Jail time.
 
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