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(Fox 8 New Orleans)   In 1968 "Don't Raise the Bridge, Lower the River" was a screwball comedy starring Jerry Lewis. In 2020 it's an engineering plan   (fox8live.com) divider line
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1 day ago  
thought this was going to be another warning about the impending Three Gorges Dam collapse
 
1 day ago  
They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.
 
1 day ago  

isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.


Same thing in the Houston Ship Channel.

Newsflash, subby: freighters are larger than before.  The whole "economy of scale" thing.
 
1 day ago  

scanman61: isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.

Same thing in the Houston Ship Channel.

Newsflash, subby: freighters are larger than before.  The whole "economy of scale" thing.


Any dredging has to be done over and over.  Mother Nature and her sediment will fill it up quick.
 
1 day ago  
I'm here to testify it sucked in 68, too
 
1 day ago  
Rising sea levels should accelerate completion of the project by a few years.
 
1 day ago  

isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.


Has the channel silted up?  Very tide dependent but I pulled into Mayport on a CVN in 2010
 
1 day ago  
Maybe they can time it for when the plecos are bedding and scrape the sides a little extra so they can wipe out a generation or so of 'em.  Of course, they'll just come back from the Silver River but any little bit helps
 
1 day ago  
I wonder where all the mud goes and if it is good for anything or just filled with pollution and what not.
 
1 day ago  
I can just imagine the ecological damage this will cause.
 
1 day ago  
This isn't even what I was expecting (I was going to reference Niagara Falls).
 
1 day ago  

snoopy2zero: I wonder where all the mud goes and if it is good for anything or just filled with pollution and what not.


I mean, if it's clean enough there's no reason not to send it downstream to dump in some of the delta areas which are washing away.
 
1 day ago  

puffy999: This isn't even what I was expecting (I was going to reference Niagara Falls).


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1 day ago  
Subby, I DNRTFA, but your headline has now gotten the LEGO LOTR techno song stuck in my head.  You know, the one.

Break the dam . . .
Release the river!

And war, and war, and warandwarandwar,

Fight for the Rohirrim! We ride for Gondor


and so on . .  .
 
1 day ago  
10 hours of Lego LOTR Disco Phial Song
Youtube lpeRhidAnh0
ah here is 10 h of it.
 
1 day ago  

NearCanuck: Subby, I DNRTFA, but your headline has now gotten the LEGO LOTR techno song stuck in my head.  You know, the one.

Break the dam . . .
Release the river!

And war, and war, and warandwarandwar,

Fight for the Rohirrim! We ride for Gondor

and so on . .  .


Man, I misremembered some of that. LOL.
 
1 day ago  

snoopy2zero: I wonder where all the mud goes and if it is good for anything or just filled with pollution and what not.


If it's anything like the lake dredging project in my home city, they pump it upstream in a slurry to dump in a settling basin. It compacts so the water is squeezed out and flows downstream and the silt just sits there to basically do nothing.
 
1 day ago  
I wonder which county wins the prize of tax breaks after they choose to accept the toxic sludge as fill...
 
1 day ago  

puffy999: snoopy2zero: I wonder where all the mud goes and if it is good for anything or just filled with pollution and what not.

I mean, if it's clean enough there's no reason not to send it downstream to dump in some of the delta areas which are washing away.


With the Houston Ship Channel they take the sand to Galveston and use it for beach remediation
 
1 day ago  

snoopy2zero: I wonder where all the mud goes and if it is good for anything or just filled with pollution and what not.


More important may be where all that mud comes from.  Just follow it north and see where all that water comes from and make your decision.  I'll use the Arkansas river as an example as I'm more familiar with it.  It's basin is about 170,000 square miles.  The Ohio and Missouri are probably larger.  Stuff gets in there.  I wouldn't knowing eat a fish out of it but I'm sure I probably have.
 
1 day ago  
Oh, God, not only do I remember that movie, just reading the title started the theme playing in my head!

Sometimes I wish my memory worked for names, faces, and useful things instead of stupid crap.
 
1 day ago  
The bridge has nothing to do with any of this.
 
1 day ago  
11 foot 8 bridge something something

/bourbon
 
1 day ago  

johnny_vegas: isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.

Has the channel silted up?  Very tide dependent but I pulled into Mayport on a CVN in 2010


It was fine for the older ships but the new class can't do it without it being dredged. They are supposed to so they can park one of them here (per a clause that got slipped into a bill a while back). But so far, it's been a lot of "We'll be doing it soon" and not much else.
 
1 day ago  

isamudyson: johnny_vegas: isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.

Has the channel silted up?  Very tide dependent but I pulled into Mayport on a CVN in 2010

It was fine for the older ships but the new class can't do it without it being dredged. They are supposed to so they can park one of them here (per a clause that got slipped into a bill a while back). But so far, it's been a lot of "We'll be doing it soon" and not much else.


I was stationed there in the Forrestal and Saratoga days and pulled in on Carl Vinson in 2010.
/ is CAPT Odie's still there?
 
1 day ago  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana​_​(steamboat)

Remnants found[edit]
In 1982, a local archaeological expedition, led by Memphis attorney Jerry O. Potter, uncovered what was believed to be the wreckage of Sultana. Blackened wooden deck planks and timbers were found about 32 feet (10 m) under a soybean field on the Arkansas side, about 4 miles (6 km) from Memphis. The Mississippi River has changed course several times since the disaster, leaving the wreck under dry land and far from today's river. The main channel now flows about 2 miles (3 km) east of its 1865 position.[12]
 
1 day ago  
Since they widened the Panama Canal, they've been trying to lure the giant freighters in to each city's port.
 
1 day ago  

johnny_vegas: isamudyson: johnny_vegas: isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.

Has the channel silted up?  Very tide dependent but I pulled into Mayport on a CVN in 2010

It was fine for the older ships but the new class can't do it without it being dredged. They are supposed to so they can park one of them here (per a clause that got slipped into a bill a while back). But so far, it's been a lot of "We'll be doing it soon" and not much else.

I was stationed there in the Forrestal and Saratoga days and pulled in on Carl Vinson in 2010.
/ is CAPT Odie's still there?


Sure is.
 
1 day ago  
"It will also allow for some vessels to carry heavier loads."

Great.  Heavier loads will just wear out the river quicker!
 
1 day ago  

jsmilky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana​_​(steamboat)

Remnants found[edit]
In 1982, a local archaeological expedition, led by Memphis attorney Jerry O. Potter, uncovered what was believed to be the wreckage of Sultana. Blackened wooden deck planks and timbers were found about 32 feet (10 m) under a soybean field on the Arkansas side, about 4 miles (6 km) from Memphis. The Mississippi River has changed course several times since the disaster, leaving the wreck under dry land and far from today's river. The main channel now flows about 2 miles (3 km) east of its 1865 position.[12]


Once I read "Under the command of Captain James Cass Mason of St. Louis" the rest of the article sounded like this guy

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Twenty thousand leagues on the Mississippi
 
1 day ago  

SansNeural: "It will also allow for some vessels to carry heavier loads."

Great.  Heavier loads will just wear out the river quicker!


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1 day ago  

isamudyson: johnny_vegas: isamudyson: johnny_vegas: isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.

Has the channel silted up?  Very tide dependent but I pulled into Mayport on a CVN in 2010

It was fine for the older ships but the new class can't do it without it being dredged. They are supposed to so they can park one of them here (per a clause that got slipped into a bill a while back). But so far, it's been a lot of "We'll be doing it soon" and not much else.

I was stationed there in the Forrestal and Saratoga days and pulled in on Carl Vinson in 2010.
/ is CAPT Odie's still there?

Sure is.


*shudder*
 
1 day ago  

isamudyson: They are doing it here where the St. Johns is going from 40' to 47' so as to allow larger cargo ships into the port. Hopefully it will also allow them to finally base another carrier here although dredging Mayport might be a separate deal.


Yeah they've been dredging and deepening the shiat out of the St. Johns for years to allow bigger cargo ships, Navy ships and cruise ships in. Apparently this has to be re-done and maintained from time to time as the silt builds up.

A carrier would be nice but IMO Jacksonville's economy was way too dependent on the military for a long time. It's better that we learned to diversify and attract a wider variety of jobs to the region instead of everything military all the time.
 
1 day ago  
The Asian Carp will love that plan. No word on noodling aficionados.
 
1 day ago  

Ishkur: I can just imagine the ecological damage this will cause.


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You mean it isn't already?  I've had cases of diarrhea that looked cleaner.
 
1 day ago  
CSB:  When they were towing the USS Batfish on the Arkansas River to her permanent site as a museum ship, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers lowered the level of the river 3 feet so they could get her under the bridges at Little Rock, AK without having to cut anything off the submarine.
 
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