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(Washington Post)   The Lincoln Project realized that Trump can't take criticism and he can't plan ahead. What they found is that a single video can take him off track for a day or more   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-08-01 6:31:32 PM  
Thank god some progressives are here to explain the Lincoln Project to us lesser sorts.
 
2020-08-01 6:31:36 PM  

WTFDYW: blastoh: I'm actually done with the Lincoln Project.
Their videos are great and exact what Donald Trump deserves.  But there are two things at play here.

First, these people laid the groundwork for Trump.
Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.   Wilson particularly has repeatedly posted about how much fun he has had in making these videos and in writing his attacks in Trump .

Third, these people are grifters who will follow the money.   Yes they realized there is a better long time future in fighting Trump and backing him, but that is it.

Don't care. Any port in a storm.  This is a bad storm. I know who these people are. They are our allies today. We can save the fussing with them for later. Right now, we need them.


The long version of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
 
2020-08-01 6:31:37 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: They'll turn those big guns on Biden the moment he's sworn in. Count on it.


Fine with me.  They just need to get him sworn in.
 
2020-08-01 6:32:35 PM  
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2020-08-01 6:33:00 PM  

BMFPitt: AAAAGGGGHHHH: They'll turn those big guns on Biden the moment he's sworn in. Count on it.

Fine with me.  They just need to get him sworn in.


WE just need to get him sworn in.
 
2020-08-01 6:33:28 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: They'll turn those big guns on Biden the moment he's sworn in. Count on it.


So?
 
2020-08-01 6:34:18 PM  

FlashHarry: [Fark user image image 850x662]


That is on-brand AF for you, Fash Larry
 
2020-08-01 6:34:39 PM  

sinner4ever: Yes, by all means help them give the illusion that Republicans can be reasonable.
Keep helping them try to prevent the whole party from going down and being synonymous with Trump.


You do realize they have put out ads against other Republicans besides Trump, right?
 
2020-08-01 6:34:52 PM  

blastoh: Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.


You say that like it's a bad thing...
 
2020-08-01 6:38:33 PM  

thorpe: WE just need to get him sworn in.


If you want to make "we" as small of a group as possible, we won't.
 
2020-08-01 6:38:47 PM  

Corn_Fed: blastoh: Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.

You say that like it's a bad thing...


That's the entire MO of the dirtbag left.
 
2020-08-01 6:38:48 PM  
One battle at a time. I don't expect FLP to not be conservative. But they are allies of the moment. If we have to fight them after Trump is gone, so be it. But for now Trump is my biggest concern.
 
2020-08-01 6:39:31 PM  

JonBuck: One battle at a time. I don't expect TLP to not be conservative. But they are allies of the moment. If we have to fight them after Trump is gone, so be it. But for now Trump is my biggest concern.


FTFM. We need an EDIT button, please.
 
2020-08-01 6:39:51 PM  
but whatabout CLINTON ON PEDO ISLAND??!!11!!??

/asking for a conservative friend.
 
2020-08-01 6:40:03 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: I don't care if they actually do have a puppy for us to pet. It's not hard to get a puppy. It's not hard to film ads


Then where are the ads produced by Bernie helping Biden? If Bernie and his bros were half as helpful in electing Biden, then we wouldn't have a need for the TLP. But so far, I've seen nothing from the Bro crowd.

And if Bernie's primary campaign of persuasiveness was any indication, it was very hard for him to film effective ads.
 
2020-08-01 6:40:45 PM  

Spartapuss: When there's someone else trying to murder you, maybe get in the farking van?


Because maybe the people in the van will just molest you and let you go? You already know they're at least going to do that. This is the level of decision-making that's going on. You do appreciate that the people in the van drove the murderer to the woods to kill you, but you'd rather not run away under your own power, (pay for your own damn ads or, god forbid, election finance reform) so let's all get in the van.

qorkfiend: You're getting mighty unhinged here, friend


I'm not the one telling people to get in the farking van. Somebody just tried to defend TLP by "yes, and"ing getting into a van with a child molester - because the child molester might not murder you. You know, like we teach our kids to do - if someone is going to murder you, run to a child molester for help!

iron de havilland: Anyone saying that is stupid. Talk of allying with them, I mean.

They have a goal that you share, though, in getting rid of Trump. That doesn't mean you have to give them money or declare your love for them. Just let them do their work of pointing out what a complete failure of a human being Trump is, and take advantage of it.


The instant you start USING their work and not just passively allowing it to happen, you are working with them. Democrats are giving them money and throwing fundraisers for them:

Their viral videos and tweets mocking his leadership, his intelligence and his patriotism - aimed both at Republican voters who are wavering and Trump himself - have attracted millions of dollars, via donors from both parties. More than 90,000 people showed up for a virtual town hall last month. Lifelong Democrats are organizing fundraisers for the project.

So, yes, we are allying with them even by your definition. We aren't just taking advantage.
 
2020-08-01 6:42:06 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: Spartapuss: When there's someone else trying to murder you, maybe get in the farking van?

Because maybe the people in the van will just molest you and let you go? You already know they're at least going to do that. This is the level of decision-making that's going on. You do appreciate that the people in the van drove the murderer to the woods to kill you, but you'd rather not run away under your own power, (pay for your own damn ads or, god forbid, election finance reform) so let's all get in the van.

qorkfiend: You're getting mighty unhinged here, friend

I'm not the one telling people to get in the farking van. Somebody just tried to defend TLP by "yes, and"ing getting into a van with a child molester - because the child molester might not murder you. You know, like we teach our kids to do - if someone is going to murder you, run to a child molester for help!

iron de havilland: Anyone saying that is stupid. Talk of allying with them, I mean.

They have a goal that you share, though, in getting rid of Trump. That doesn't mean you have to give them money or declare your love for them. Just let them do their work of pointing out what a complete failure of a human being Trump is, and take advantage of it.

The instant you start USING their work and not just passively allowing it to happen, you are working with them. Democrats are giving them money and throwing fundraisers for them:

Their viral videos and tweets mocking his leadership, his intelligence and his patriotism - aimed both at Republican voters who are wavering and Trump himself - have attracted millions of dollars, via donors from both parties. More than 90,000 people showed up for a virtual town hall last month. Lifelong Democrats are organizing fundraisers for the project.

So, yes, we are allying with them even by your definition. We aren't just taking advantage.


The unhinged part was you making the "child molester" comparison in the first place
 
2020-08-01 6:43:34 PM  

FlashHarry: [Fark user image 850x662]


Hmmm. I see 2 valid targets and one collateral damage potential target. By valid rules of engagement.
Problem ?
 
2020-08-01 6:44:13 PM  
This is really just a sustained "Not All Republicans" campaign, which will last until Jan. 20th at 12:04 p.m. and then they'll go after Biden for drinking spring water or some dumb shiat.
 
2020-08-01 6:44:33 PM  

mjjt: No that's a complete strawman. Nobody is asking you to ally with them, to like them, or to give them money.


FTFA: Their viral videos and tweets mocking his leadership, his intelligence and his patriotism - aimed both at Republican voters who are wavering and Trump himself - have attracted millions of dollars, via donors from both parties. More than 90,000 people showed up for a virtual town hall last month. Lifelong Democrats are organizing fundraisers for the project.

LIFELONG DEMOCRATS ARE ASKING ME TO GIVE THEM MONEY! Someone even outlined TFA for you. Reading is fundamental!
 
2020-08-01 6:46:46 PM  

blastoh: I'm actually done with the Lincoln Project.
Their videos are great and exact what Donald Trump deserves.  But there are two things at play here.

First, these people laid the groundwork for Trump.
Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.   Wilson particularly has repeatedly posted about how much fun he has had in making these videos and in writing his attacks in Trump .

Third, these people are grifters who will follow the money.   Yes they realized there is a better long time future in fighting Trump and backing him, but that is it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZI8P​A​JcgHg

Its well explained here for folks. 

The Lincoln Project Project - SOME MORE NEWS
Youtube 1ZI8PAJcgHg
 
2020-08-01 6:47:22 PM  
I'll take my chances with the guy who's not carrying the chainsaw instead trying to hold my ground, thank you. If he becomes an issue afterward, well I'm farked because he's Jim Jones or something...
 
2020-08-01 6:49:25 PM  

Corn_Fed: DoBeDoBeLurk: I don't care if they actually do have a puppy for us to pet. It's not hard to get a puppy. It's not hard to film ads

Then where are the ads produced by Bernie helping Biden? If Bernie and his bros were half as helpful in electing Biden, then we wouldn't have a need for the TLP. But so far, I've seen nothing from the Bro crowd.

And if Bernie's primary campaign of persuasiveness was any indication, it was very hard for him to film effective ads.


*takes a deep breath, smiles* How are you going to explain this one as threadjacking by Bernie Bros? Took three pages for you to get here and start trying to turn Democrats against each other in defense of a load of Republicans with free ads.

The Biden ads I'm seeing locally all end with "AND ENDORSED BY SANDERS" some of them in Spanish.

/Oh yeah, sure SANDERS, but each individual bro...
//As if I'm actually going to vote for Biden...
///Like 88% of "bros" did last time...
 
2020-08-01 6:52:15 PM  
The Lincoln Project is bombarding Trump with negative energy, that's fine by me as long as Vladimir Putin doesn't get away with whatever he's up to since America is distracted.

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The Men Who Stare At Goats - Trailer
Youtube I87ci3pBZN4
 
2020-08-01 6:54:10 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: Corn_Fed: DoBeDoBeLurk: I don't care if they actually do have a puppy for us to pet. It's not hard to get a puppy. It's not hard to film ads

Then where are the ads produced by Bernie helping Biden? If Bernie and his bros were half as helpful in electing Biden, then we wouldn't have a need for the TLP. But so far, I've seen nothing from the Bro crowd.

And if Bernie's primary campaign of persuasiveness was any indication, it was very hard for him to film effective ads.

*takes a deep breath, smiles* How are you going to explain this one as threadjacking by Bernie Bros? Took three pages for you to get here and start trying to turn Democrats against each other in defense of a load of Republicans with free ads.

The Biden ads I'm seeing locally all end with "AND ENDORSED BY SANDERS" some of them in Spanish.

/Oh yeah, sure SANDERS, but each individual bro...
//As if I'm actually going to vote for Biden...
///Like 88% of "bros" did last time...


"Contains the words 'endorsed by Sanders'" != "produced by a group allied with Sanders"
 
2020-08-01 6:56:33 PM  

OMFG Help Us: Can we strap Donnie in a chair, keep his eyes open using the proverbial toothpick method, and make him watch endless clips of LP and  Sarah Cooper?


If we have the ability to strap him to a chair, I'm going to strap him to one that will really make him tingle.

Ride the Lightning, anyone?
 
2020-08-01 6:56:40 PM  

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: blastoh: I'm actually done with the Lincoln Project.
Their videos are great and exact what Donald Trump deserves.  But there are two things at play here.

First, these people laid the groundwork for Trump.
Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.   Wilson particularly has repeatedly posted about how much fun he has had in making these videos and in writing his attacks in Trump .

Third, these people are grifters who will follow the money.   Yes they realized there is a better long time future in fighting Trump and backing him, but that is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZI8PA​JcgHg

Its well explained here for folks. 

[YouTube video: The Lincoln Project Project - SOME MORE NEWS]


Act II
 
2020-08-01 6:58:42 PM  
If Trump isn't fired, we aren't going to be allowed to argue politics anymore.
 
2020-08-01 7:02:11 PM  
So people that support torture plan to harass someone.  Who could have seen this coming?
 
2020-08-01 7:03:33 PM  

qorkfiend: DoBeDoBeLurk: Spartapuss: When there's someone else trying to murder you, maybe get in the farking van?

Because maybe the people in the van will just molest you and let you go? You already know they're at least going to do that. This is the level of decision-making that's going on. You do appreciate that the people in the van drove the murderer to the woods to kill you, but you'd rather not run away under your own power, (pay for your own damn ads or, god forbid, election finance reform) so let's all get in the van.

qorkfiend: You're getting mighty unhinged here, friend

I'm not the one telling people to get in the farking van. Somebody just tried to defend TLP by "yes, and"ing getting into a van with a child molester - because the child molester might not murder you. You know, like we teach our kids to do - if someone is going to murder you, run to a child molester for help!

iron de havilland: Anyone saying that is stupid. Talk of allying with them, I mean.

They have a goal that you share, though, in getting rid of Trump. That doesn't mean you have to give them money or declare your love for them. Just let them do their work of pointing out what a complete failure of a human being Trump is, and take advantage of it.

The instant you start USING their work and not just passively allowing it to happen, you are working with them. Democrats are giving them money and throwing fundraisers for them:

Their viral videos and tweets mocking his leadership, his intelligence and his patriotism - aimed both at Republican voters who are wavering and Trump himself - have attracted millions of dollars, via donors from both parties. More than 90,000 people showed up for a virtual town hall last month. Lifelong Democrats are organizing fundraisers for the project.

So, yes, we are allying with them even by your definition. We aren't just taking advantage.

The unhinged part was you making the "child molester" comparison in the first place


And so accepting the metaphor and saying get in the van is what? Super hinged? An addendum:

Spartapuss: I'll take my chances with the guy who's not carrying the chainsaw instead trying to hold my ground, thank you. If he becomes an issue afterward, well I'm farked because he's Jim Jones or something...


Get in the van even if the guy in the van will kill you later with poisoned Flavor Aid!

You don't get to say I'm being unreasonable when someone else is agreeing to be molested AND making it even worse. Get in the van even if you die later because if that happens you were screwed anyway. Wow. TLP is the only thing standing between us and another Trump victory and must accept their help now even if they screw us later and get another, more subtle version of Trump (Jim Jones instead of Jason) elected. I didn't come up with that.
 
2020-08-01 7:04:30 PM  

blastoh: I'm actually done with the Lincoln Project.
Their videos are great and exact what Donald Trump deserves.  But there are two things at play here.

First, these people laid the groundwork for Trump.
Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.   Wilson particularly has repeatedly posted about how much fun he has had in making these videos and in writing his attacks in Trump .

Third, these people are grifters who will follow the money.   Yes they realized there is a better long time future in fighting Trump and backing him, but that is it.


To your second point: I would enjoy writing shiat like that and creating the videos if I knew Trump himself would be watching them. The man is the biggest asshole in America and probably the Western Hemisphere, who wouldn't take glee in it? That doesnt make me an asshole, it makes me human. If Rick Wilson is an ass, it's not because of that.
 
2020-08-01 7:05:50 PM  

FlashHarry: AAAAGGGGHHHH: They'll turn those big guns on Biden the moment he's sworn in. Count on it.

So?


Ask John Kerry about a phrase called "swift boating".
 
2020-08-01 7:08:00 PM  

Maynard G. Muskievote: iheartscotch: The greatest grift of all would be The Lincoln Project convincing you that they were ever on the side of good. They are not.

Sort of like my Vampire run in Total War: Warhammer. The humans and dwarves allied with me to fight Chaos. I committed 15,000 skellies and 20 vampire lords. And then I watched as Chaos absolutely obliterated the humans. I swept in at the last second and saved my allies. But, I used their weakness to expand massively and, eventually, to crush them.

/ that is why you should never trust an enemy of an enemy

That seals it then. I will not vote for the Lincoln Project for president.


You say as you plan to vote for the right-leaning presidential  candidate the Lincoln Project wants you to vote for.


Had the nominee been a hair left of Cory Booker, they'd be doing ads for Trump.
 
2020-08-01 7:08:22 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: iron de havilland: Anyone saying that is stupid. Talk of allying with them, I mean.

They have a goal that you share, though, in getting rid of Trump. That doesn't mean you have to give them money or declare your love for them. Just let them do their work of pointing out what a complete failure of a human being Trump is, and take advantage of it.


The instant you start USING their work and not just passively allowing it to happen, you are working with them. Democrats are giving them money and throwing fundraisers for them:

Their viral videos and tweets mocking his leadership, his intelligence and his patriotism - aimed both at Republican voters who are wavering and Trump himself - have attracted millions of dollars, via donors from both parties. More than 90,000 people showed up for a virtual town hall last month. Lifelong Democrats are organizing fundraisers for the project.

So, yes, we are allying with them even by your definition. We aren't just taking advantage.


As long as they know what they're getting into, if it helps shift the Overton window leftwards, I don't really have a problem with this. Just as long as those involved know that they will have to divest themselves of TLP at some point.
 
2020-08-01 7:11:59 PM  

iron de havilland: As long as they know what they're getting into, if it helps shift the Overton window leftwards, I don't really have a problem with this. Just as long as those involved know that they will have to divest themselves of TLP at some point.


You think voting for the Democrat who'll piss on Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, college debt forgiveness, and cannabis legalization will steer the conversation leftward?

Left of what, the Beer Hall Putsch?
 
2020-08-01 7:12:58 PM  

qorkfiend: "Contains the words 'endorsed by Sanders'" != "produced by a group allied with Sanders"


Google is our friend.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07​/​09/sanders-aides-pro-biden-ad-latino-v​oters-354101

This is the very ad I'm seeing locally. So, yes, actually, it did equal "produced by a group allied with Sanders." Nuestro Pac.
 
2020-08-01 7:16:56 PM  

Insurgent: how are these ads effective?


The President brings them up, and complains about them.  To EVERYONE.

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2020-08-01 7:17:31 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: qorkfiend: DoBeDoBeLurk: Spartapuss: When there's someone else trying to murder you, maybe get in the farking van?

Because maybe the people in the van will just molest you and let you go? You already know they're at least going to do that. This is the level of decision-making that's going on. You do appreciate that the people in the van drove the murderer to the woods to kill you, but you'd rather not run away under your own power, (pay for your own damn ads or, god forbid, election finance reform) so let's all get in the van.

qorkfiend: You're getting mighty unhinged here, friend

I'm not the one telling people to get in the farking van. Somebody just tried to defend TLP by "yes, and"ing getting into a van with a child molester - because the child molester might not murder you. You know, like we teach our kids to do - if someone is going to murder you, run to a child molester for help!

iron de havilland: Anyone saying that is stupid. Talk of allying with them, I mean.

They have a goal that you share, though, in getting rid of Trump. That doesn't mean you have to give them money or declare your love for them. Just let them do their work of pointing out what a complete failure of a human being Trump is, and take advantage of it.

The instant you start USING their work and not just passively allowing it to happen, you are working with them. Democrats are giving them money and throwing fundraisers for them:

Their viral videos and tweets mocking his leadership, his intelligence and his patriotism - aimed both at Republican voters who are wavering and Trump himself - have attracted millions of dollars, via donors from both parties. More than 90,000 people showed up for a virtual town hall last month. Lifelong Democrats are organizing fundraisers for the project.

So, yes, we are allying with them even by your definition. We aren't just taking advantage.

The unhinged part was you making the "child molester" comparison in the first place

And so accepting the metaphor and saying get in the van is what? Super hinged? An addendum:

Spartapuss: I'll take my chances with the guy who's not carrying the chainsaw instead trying to hold my ground, thank you. If he becomes an issue afterward, well I'm farked because he's Jim Jones or something...

Get in the van even if the guy in the van will kill you later with poisoned Flavor Aid!

You don't get to say I'm being unreasonable when someone else is agreeing to be molested AND making it even worse. Get in the van even if you die later because if that happens you were screwed anyway. Wow. TLP is the only thing standing between us and another Trump victory and must accept their help now even if they screw us later and get another, more subtle version of Trump (Jim Jones instead of Jason) elected. I didn't come up with that.


Sorry, you don't get to complain about other people arguing on the grounds you chose
 
2020-08-01 7:18:11 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: qorkfiend: "Contains the words 'endorsed by Sanders'" != "produced by a group allied with Sanders"

Google is our friend.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/​09/sanders-aides-pro-biden-ad-latino-v​oters-354101

This is the very ad I'm seeing locally. So, yes, actually, it did equal "produced by a group allied with Sanders." Nuestro Pac.


Ok, cool. Next time, say what you mean instead of something that means something else.
 
2020-08-01 7:18:17 PM  

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: blastoh: I'm actually done with the Lincoln Project.
Their videos are great and exact what Donald Trump deserves.  But there are two things at play here.

First, these people laid the groundwork for Trump.
Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.   Wilson particularly has repeatedly posted about how much fun he has had in making these videos and in writing his attacks in Trump .

Third, these people are grifters who will follow the money.   Yes they realized there is a better long time future in fighting Trump and backing him, but that is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZI8PA​JcgHg

Its well explained here for folks. 

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/1ZI8PAJc​gHg]


Can you reduce this to a meme.  No one has time for that!
 
2020-08-01 7:20:33 PM  

iron de havilland: GreatGlavinsGhost: blastoh: I'm actually done with the Lincoln Project.
Their videos are great and exact what Donald Trump deserves.  But there are two things at play here.

First, these people laid the groundwork for Trump.
Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.   Wilson particularly has repeatedly posted about how much fun he has had in making these videos and in writing his attacks in Trump .

Third, these people are grifters who will follow the money.   Yes they realized there is a better long time future in fighting Trump and backing him, but that is it.

You said two, then listed three, therefore I am reporting you to someone.

He didn't expect some kind of Spanish Inquisition.


No one ever does.
 
2020-08-01 7:21:56 PM  

EyeballKid: iron de havilland: As long as they know what they're getting into, if it helps shift the Overton window leftwards, I don't really have a problem with this. Just as long as those involved know that they will have to divest themselves of TLP at some point.

You think voting for the Democrat who'll piss on Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, college debt forgiveness, and cannabis legalization will steer the conversation leftward?

Left of what, the Beer Hall Putsch?


Well, if you're convinced that Trump is the best thing for the US, I'm not sure what to say to you.
 
2020-08-01 7:22:03 PM  
If you support The Lincoln Project, you also support:

-Bombing brown people in other countries for illegal reasons

-Trickledown economics

-Torture

-Dick Cheney, Both Bushes, Reagan

-Keeping the rich rich and the poor stupid.
 
2020-08-01 7:22:26 PM  
Lincoln Project after Trump loses the election: "Did I do good?"

Everyone with a functioning memory: "Yes, appreciate that. Now fark off"
 
2020-08-01 7:24:12 PM  

iron de havilland: As long as they know what they're getting into, if it helps shift the Overton window leftwards,


[citation unavailable]

iron de havilland: Just as long as those involved know that they will have to divest themselves of TLP at some point.


[citation unavailable]

But to get back to the original goals posts,

iron de havilland: Anyone saying that is stupid. Talk of allying with them, I mean.

They have a goal that you share, though, in getting rid of Trump. That doesn't mean you have to give them money or declare your love for them.


Now you're okay with Democrats giving them money and declaring their love for them as long as certain conditions are met. Maybe giving Republicans your money will move the Overton Window left! Maybe we should do that! Maybe we can just give them our money for a little while!

iron de havilland: Anyone saying that is stupid. Talk of allying with them, I mean.

 
2020-08-01 7:27:03 PM  
DoBeDoBeLurk:

Look, lets just get rid of Trump first, before we have a discussion on how the deck chairs should be arranged.
 
2020-08-01 7:27:42 PM  
*let's
 
2020-08-01 7:32:13 PM  

qorkfiend: Sorry, you don't get to complain about other people arguing on the grounds you chose


Oh, I didn't know you were the living arbiter of argument law.

YOU don't get to dismiss me out of hand as unreasonable if someone on your side is willing to agree with me on my terms and make them even worse.

You're more upset by my metaphor than by someone saying we need to support TLP even if they get someone worse than Trump elected later. I said people were willing to get into a van with a child molester, and while someone WAS, I still shouldn't SAY that...

qorkfiend: Ok, cool. Next time, say what you mean instead of something that means something else.


Next time look shiat up before you make an assumption and you won't look as silly.
 
2020-08-01 7:35:43 PM  

EyeballKid: JustToLetYouKnowFriend: blastoh: I'm actually done with the Lincoln Project.
Their videos are great and exact what Donald Trump deserves.  But there are two things at play here.

First, these people laid the groundwork for Trump.
Second, they are partially doing what they are doing because they (especially Rick Wilson) get off on being assholes.   Wilson particularly has repeatedly posted about how much fun he has had in making these videos and in writing his attacks in Trump .

Third, these people are grifters who will follow the money.   Yes they realized there is a better long time future in fighting Trump and backing him, but that is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZI8PA​JcgHg

Its well explained here for folks. 

[YouTube video: The Lincoln Project Project - SOME MORE NEWS]

Act II


Won't it be groovy when they decide to ally with Trump to destroy us first and prove you all right?
 
2020-08-01 7:36:23 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: qorkfiend: Sorry, you don't get to complain about other people arguing on the grounds you chose


Oh, I didn't know you were the living arbiter of argument law.

YOU don't get to dismiss me out of hand as unreasonable if someone on your side is willing to agree with me on my terms and make them even worse.


Isn't qorkfiend a lib, too?

Is he not on the same side as you?
 
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