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2020-08-01 10:09:08 AM  
133 votes:
Take some time for rest and relaxation over the next 2 months Colonel, you may be called to serve your fellow citizens again in the not-so-distant future for an administration that appreciates your commitment to truth and honor.
 
2020-08-01 10:48:26 AM  
98 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.
 
2020-08-01 10:51:46 AM  
82 votes:
In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.
 
2020-08-01 1:07:27 PM  
70 votes:
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2020-08-01 11:53:33 AM  
67 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.
 
2020-08-01 1:41:59 PM  
45 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


As a veteran, I don't think I've got it in me to tell a guy who survived an IED blast and relearned to walk that he needs to "stick it out" while a bunch of fat fark politicians and unelected assholes make his life and that of his entire family, a living hell, just so he can get a few more bucks out of an unappreciative nation for both his sacrifice before, and the risk he took to tell congress the truth and do the right thing.

But good on you for knowing whats best for him.
 
2020-08-01 11:31:34 AM  
44 votes:

BizarreMan: Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.


I once had a job that was literally driving me crazy -- major anxiety disorder with panic attacks -- and no amount of money could have gotten me to stay. It sucks that the White House was evil enough to know that he would leave if they treated him like shiat enough.
 
2020-08-01 10:24:56 AM  
43 votes:
That read an awful lot like a campaign announcement.
I hope he does.
 
2020-08-01 1:10:24 PM  
42 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


This is wrong.

Read Trescott's article on the subject here.

FTA:

This is why many lieutenant colonels retire once they reach 20 years in the Army, because if they're not on the colonels list the first time out of the box, they know their careers are effectively over.

and

He had gotten word that pressure had been put on the Pentagon to remove him from the colonels list and effectively end his career.
 
2020-08-01 12:17:11 PM  
37 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Some people have values. You're not one of those.
 
2020-08-01 12:05:32 PM  
35 votes:
And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.
 
2020-08-01 1:24:27 PM  
34 votes:

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


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2020-08-01 1:32:08 PM  
32 votes:
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2020-08-01 1:07:56 PM  
32 votes:

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.


faaaaaarrrt
 
2020-08-01 1:29:36 PM  
27 votes:

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.


I have been here for 20 years. And I am an asshole.

Funny I have no recollection of you and I have a good god man memory.

You are part of a pattern of accounts that BSAB.
 
2020-08-01 1:40:40 PM  
26 votes:
Vindman is an American Hero. Period. His character, expertise, training and patriotism will be his testimony and resume for anyone interested in talent.
 
2020-08-01 1:44:09 PM  
23 votes:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


Citations for any of those things?
 
2020-08-01 1:23:21 PM  
23 votes:

Nonpo: If he was serious about defending our nation


What?
 
2020-08-01 1:25:14 PM  
21 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


If life was fair, sure, but it isn't and in real world terms that isn't how it works.

From what all my military friends have told me, being involved in something this big, public, and political means his career in military intelligence is effectively over regardless of who is in the White House. Even though he did everything he was supposed to do, he's damaged goods now. His career inside the military just hit a brick wall.
 
2020-08-01 1:15:09 PM  
20 votes:
Apparently M. No-pro isn't familiar with how the military works especially when it comes to senior officers.
 
2020-08-01 1:57:43 PM  
19 votes:

Mrbogey: treasonous wuss


lol fark off.
 
2020-08-01 1:27:40 PM  
19 votes:

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.


Calling Tammy Duckworth a republican was pretty gross. The woman gives up both her legs for this country, says "I ain't done yet", serves in the US Senate, and then proceeds to stick her titanium leg up the ass of those who need it, and you say she's a Republican.
 
2020-08-01 2:19:16 PM  
18 votes:

Cornelis de Gyselaer: theflatline: Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.

I have been here for 20 years. And I am an asshole.

Funny I have no recollection of you and I have a good god man memory.

You are part of a pattern of accounts that BSAB.

And it looks like we're to see a rate increase here
Income is down, I wonder why?


Happened during the 2016 campaign too. Old zombie accounts suddenly spinning up, all shouting the same messaging, then disappearing once election day happened.

I don't think it has anything to do with low revenue at Fark though. I just think people underestimate the scale, reach, and scope of organized disinformation campaigns on the internet by political organizations and nation states.
 
2020-08-01 2:02:49 PM  
18 votes:

2wolves: [Fark user image 700x949]


Republicans care what a fake plumber thinks but not a what a retired Lieutenant Colonel who worked at the White House thinks.
 
2020-08-01 1:11:05 PM  
18 votes:

Nonpo: BizarreMan: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.

If he was serious about defending our nation like he says here, he would need to have a position of power to be able to do it. He did the right thing by testifying, that was admirable, but if "bullying" is the worst he is experiencing and he gave up being a Colonel for it I have to ask, is he really making the sacrifice for the greater good here? If he stuck it out until the election then he could have been granted the power to do what he says he wants to do. I want men of honor like him in positions of power especially since he is also an expert on Russia during a time when Russia is attacking our democracy. If all he had to do was withstand a little "invective" in the workplace for a while to get that position of power then I have to wonder why he didn't do it. If it turns out he's running for office I guess I'll have my answer.


Power as a Colonel during peacetime?

He'll have far more power in Congress or as part of the far more lucrative civilian side of National Defense.
 
2020-08-01 10:27:56 AM  
18 votes:

dionysusaur: That read an awful lot like a campaign announcement.
I hope he does.


It was quite impressive.
 
2020-08-01 1:43:03 PM  
16 votes:

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.



Keep digging, bro. If you dig long enough, you may be the first person in history to dig himself out of a hole.
 
2020-08-01 2:12:44 PM  
15 votes:

Nonpo: BizarreMan: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.

If he was serious about defending our nation like he says here, he would need to have a position of power to be able to do it. He did the right thing by testifying, that was admirable, but if "bullying" is the worst he is experiencing and he gave up being a Colonel for it I have to ask, is he really making the sacrifice for the greater good here? If he stuck it out until the election then he could have been granted the power to do what he says he wants to do. I want men of honor like him in positions of power especially since he is also an expert on Russia during a time when Russia is attacking our democracy. If all he had to do was withstand a little "invective" in the workplace for a while to get that position of power then I have to wonder why he didn't do it. If it turns out he's running for office I guess I'll have my answer.


His retirement doesn't make him any less of an expert. It does, however, allow him to express his concerns without fear of orange-tinged retribution.
 
2020-08-01 1:49:25 PM  
15 votes:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


You're lucky you've never had a real job.
 
2020-08-01 1:05:05 PM  
15 votes:
If Biden doesn't does something rewarding for this man shortly after taking office, it will be a huge shame.
 
2020-08-01 12:11:21 PM  
15 votes:

bostonguy: And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.


That's called constructive dismissal.
 
2020-08-01 1:59:15 PM  
14 votes:

Mrbogey: Who cares that the treasonous wuss had his career opportunities limited? He's moved onto a new lucrative career of bilking self hating white millennial privileged morons.


Self hating white
Millennial
Privilege

Ooh keep going I'm so close to bingo on my white nationalist bingo card!
 
2020-08-01 1:13:32 PM  
14 votes:
Found one at least

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2020-08-01 1:47:59 PM  
13 votes:
Having been bullied out of the Navy, I can understand his resigning.

A quote from that CO: "Maybe if I had put as much effort into training my officers as I did getting rid of them..."

In the four years I was on that sub, ALL of the junior officers left at the end of their service obligation, even the Naval Academy guys.  He also presided over the lowest reenlistment rate for the enlisted personnel of any ship on the West Coast, including a brilliant guy who quit a month short of becoming the youngest Chief Petty Officer since WW2.
 
2020-08-01 1:29:37 PM  
13 votes:

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


*SNERK*

*BAW HA HA HA HA HA HA!*

Thanks, I really needed that, this week.
 
2020-08-01 1:47:14 PM  
12 votes:

iron de havilland: bostonguy: And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.

That's called constructive dismissal.


Another way this is done is called mobbing. The boss picks a ringleader to rile the other employees up against the one who they would like to see quit. The group works together to make the victim's life hell. It's extremely psychologically damaging. I'm still suffering and it's been 4 years since I quit. Vindman must be made of strong stuff.
 
2020-08-01 2:02:56 PM  
11 votes:
So many trolls on fark anymore. I'm about done with it.
 
2020-08-01 1:57:11 PM  
11 votes:

dionysusaur: That read an awful lot like a campaign announcement.
I hope he does.


He's got my vote.

He's the kind of solider who I believe wouldn't carry out unlawful orders and we need a whole lot more of that lately.
 
2020-08-01 1:52:57 PM  
11 votes:

fernt: He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


If any of the other shiat you said was true and he wasn't simply being retaliated against for purely political reasons for doing his job, he would have been court martialed.

fark's sake.
 
2020-08-01 1:48:29 PM  
11 votes:

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.


Oh, just about every post you've ever made suggests you are a few french fries short of a happy meal, and calling the Colonel short-sighted, and being, well, mostly wrong all the time.
 
2020-08-01 1:41:04 PM  
11 votes:

CrazyCurt: Watch him run for Congress as a Republican. Heads will explode.

/ I think he WAS registered as one, might not be so much now.


No heads on the left would explode, so long as he still doesn't sell out for a few rubles.
 
2020-08-01 2:32:02 PM  
10 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


The problem for Vindman - and alas, for all of us really - isn't that Trump goes away in January. The problem is that there will be no way to de-Trumpify America, after. There will still be millions of sniveling little bootlickers and some of them will inevitably be in positions of authority. Vindman's colleagues are shot through with trumpery bullshiat and how does he ever get promoted general with the US Senate composed of fearful old Trumpers?

He won't be the last. A lot of us are going to have problems. Most of those won't be as clean-lined or as public and you can bet your last dollar the consequences will fall disproportionately on women, people of color, LGBTQ, basically anyone who doesn't look trumpy enough. "Oh gee that's really a shame, huh. Too bad you libs voted for Sleepy Joe I guess." They are going to punish you for Trump's endless failure.
 
2020-08-01 1:50:56 PM  
10 votes:
The military is one profession where they study the defeats as well as the victories.  In fact they probably study defeats more, since there are more to study, and the consequences are usually more detrimental.
 
2020-08-01 1:44:56 PM  
10 votes:

CrazyCurt: Watch him run for Congress as a Republican. Heads will explode.

/ I think he WAS registered as one, might not be so much now.


The Republican Party could use some actual Republicans in it, so I say go for it.
 
2020-08-01 1:34:04 PM  
10 votes:

sdd2000: Rwa2play: gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.

Biden should make him Joints Chiefs of Staff...out of spite.

Better might be a Deputy or Assistant Secretary of Army (or possibly Secretary of Army)


Ambassador to Ukraine; he knows stuff.
 
2020-08-01 2:38:46 PM  
9 votes:
My brother's company got absorbed by Capital One right at the beginning of the Great Recession of 2008.  He quit the (high-paying) job and when I asked why, he said "It was the chest pains every morning before I went to work."  When ya gotta go, ya gotta go.
 
2020-08-01 2:23:36 PM  
9 votes:
A lot of people in this country these days need a serious schooling on how to follow his example. It seems that so many people in this country have forgotten how to simply do the right thing no matter what it costs you. It's one of the things that built this country and it needs to be one of the things that rebuilds it.
 
2020-08-01 2:19:58 PM  
9 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


I know it sounds strange to a Republiderp, but sometimes people value integrity, honesty, and dignity more than money, status, and power.

Keep sucking that tiny little Cheeto.  I am sure you will one day be given the honor of taking the fall for cheetolini's poor decisions.
 
2020-08-01 1:51:23 PM  
9 votes:
fernt: duuuuh, Alex Jones told me to buuuuhhh-leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve that (Vindman) knowingly violated military rules.

Fixed that for ya.
 
2020-08-01 1:46:45 PM  
9 votes:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


OOOps... I figured I had already read the most ignorant post of the day a few seconds ago and lo and behold, you topped the other one!

Congrats! 

BTW, what the fark is a "martialed"?
 
2020-08-01 1:44:04 PM  
9 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


"Holy farking stupid, Batman!"

Tell us all about your time in the military, facing the kind of opposition he did!
 
2020-08-01 1:12:59 PM  
9 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Satire?
 
2020-08-01 9:11:15 PM  
7 votes:
Kids, remember - it's more important to retire with that promo to full bird than it is to obey your oath as a high ranking officer.
 
2020-08-01 3:29:46 PM  
7 votes:

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


Stuff your fake outrage back up your poop chute.
 
2020-08-01 1:40:19 PM  
7 votes:

Garza and the Supermutants: TaDu: Take some time for rest and relaxation over the next 2 months Colonel, you may be called to serve your fellow citizens again in the not-so-distant future for an administration that appreciates your commitment to truth and honor.

This. Hopefully as a general, though I don't know if it's possible to hop past the full colonel position during peacetime.


Promote him to O-6, retroactive to when he would have gotten the promotion had the administration not stalled it, and give him a choice: he can stay in retirement, at which point his retirement will be amended to be effective at that point, or he can accept a joint duty assignment (a requirement to be promoted to flag officer) and then promotion to O-7 (subject to Senate confirmation, of course). If Congress needs to approve it, they can slip an amendment in a post office naming bill or something that allows for such actions for any military personnel who were subjected to illegal retaliation and were either discharged or retired as a result.
 
2020-08-01 12:05:36 PM  
7 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Five years would be a long time to wait for a promotion.
 
2020-08-01 7:56:17 PM  
6 votes:

Nonpo: All I said is that yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, he's wrong so you can yap off with this ridiculous line of yippity yappity yaparoo. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap.


I just don't get why everyone is treating me like I'm the yappin' devil. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. You are all making a mountain out of a mole hill. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap. Yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap, yap yap yap yap yap yap yap.


pppffbbbbhhtth.
 
2020-08-01 4:19:18 PM  
6 votes:

spongeboob: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Satire?


Alt.
 
2020-08-01 2:20:44 PM  
6 votes:

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


Those values may be garbage even if they are deeply held, and your moral compass is meaningless if you ignore it.

Also you ignored all the meaningful and informative responses.
 
2020-08-01 1:48:11 PM  
6 votes:

spongeboob: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Satire?


Dunning-Kruger effect.
 
2020-08-01 1:21:56 PM  
6 votes:
AntiNerd:  This is why many lieutenant colonels retire once they reach 20 years in the Army, because if they're not on the colonels list the first time out of the box, they know their careers are effectively over.

My ex FIL retired out as a light colonel, Army Chemical Corps.  He said pretty much exactly this ^^^

He was a wonkish dude in a evaporating field.
 
2020-08-01 6:59:51 PM  
5 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


So you would stay at a job where everyone around you is sucking putin's dick every day, then wandering the halls with putin semen glued to the corners of their mouths?
 
2020-08-01 6:52:04 PM  
5 votes:

Stoker: He could have waited six months.


My God, they're like cockroaches.
 
2020-08-01 6:31:49 PM  
5 votes:

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: The problem for Vindman - and alas, for all of us really - isn't that Trump goes away in January. The problem is that there will be no way to de-Trumpify America, after. There will still be millions of sniveling little bootlickers and some of them will inevitably be in positions of authority. Vindman's colleagues are shot through with trumpery bullshiat and how does he ever get promoted general with the US Senate composed of fearful old Trumpers?


A LOT of people who work for our government have outed themselves as Trumpers, rather than patriotic Americans.  I'm sure there are plenty of actually loyal folks laying low while taking those names.  Those that put Trump before the country or the constitution should start getting their resumes ready now.
 
2020-08-01 5:22:06 PM  
5 votes:

Nonpo: firefly212: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

As a veteran, I don't think I've got it in me to tell a guy who survived an IED blast and relearned to walk that he needs to "stick it out" while a bunch of fat fark politicians and unelected assholes make his life and that of his entire family, a living hell, just so he can get a few more bucks out of an unappreciative nation for both his sacrifice before, and the risk he took to tell congress the truth and do the right thing.

But good on you for knowing whats best for him.

All I said is that if he wanted to be colonel all he had to do was wait and that his stated reason of quitting because he would never make colonel didn't make much sense considering the only impediment to his making colonel would be gone come January. Clearly he just didn't want it bad enough, that's fine, that's his decision and I don't care and I'm certainly not seeking out Mr Vindman to tell him he's wrong so you can hop off with this ridiculous line of criticism.


I just don't get why everyone is treating me like I'm the devil for pointing out that he could have gotten what he wanted if he just waited. You are all making a mountain out of a mole hill. If one person does something good they should be rewarded and praised for that, but it doesn't make them immune to all criticism for the rest of their life. I literally just called him shortsighted because he could have gotten what he wanted if he just waited. That is the criticism I am levying here and you people are acting like I am calling him Hitler or something.


That's Retired Colonel Vindman to you. Or maybe you don't even say his name, b/c you don't deserve to. Unless you are in his CofC, you don't know how close he was to promotion or how easy it would have been to "just wait"; why do hostages try to escape when all they have to do is wait for the demands of their kidnapper to be satisfied?
His family was threatened w/ physical harm; on top of being made miserable every day (b/c you know military isn't a 9-5 job, right?) how long would you wait that out, tovarisch?
Your minimizing of all that was happening to him is a kind of attack, a passive one at the very least - as intended, I'm sure. Great distraction, btw, get folks caught in the details so we don't discuss the treason he witnessed & the way the government whose Constitution he swore to protect didn't protect him when he was under the most obvious & basic form of political attack. You're trying to waste space & I for one won't allow it anymore.
 
2020-08-01 3:51:57 PM  
5 votes:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


You're an idiot.
 
2020-08-01 3:50:25 PM  
5 votes:

Petroleum Oligarch: Mrbogey: Who cares that the treasonous wuss had his career opportunities limited? He's moved onto a new lucrative career of bilking self hating white millennial privileged morons.

Self hating white
Millennial
Privilege

Ooh keep going I'm so close to bingo on my white nationalist bingo card!


What does "self hating white" even mean in this context? Is Bogey just dropping all pretext and calling him Race Traitor?
 
2020-08-01 3:20:46 PM  
5 votes:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


I was wondering what the talking points would be.

fernt, you are on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of humanity, the wrong side of reality, and the wrong side of whatever deity may exist. I'd ask for God to have mercy on your soul but I'm not convinced you have one.
 
2020-08-01 3:05:45 PM  
5 votes:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


Book Review

*Weak with a disappointing ending

Although the trolling started quite strong with the mention of "violated military rules" it soon fell back to the predictable monologue of simple contradiction.  Multiple uses of "He", the masculine third-person, singular personal pronoun (nominative case) suggested knowledge or intellectual capacity, but sadly never withstood any real scrutiny once we hit the objective clauses.  There was a brief flurry of transitive alliteration with the use of "Vindman was vindictive", but again, it was a spurious and false signal of literacy.  Overall it was a rushed and hugely unprepared troll (sadly becoming more utilized these days) and fell far short of the standard expected from the Internet Research Agency.  The overall poor standard indicates this was probably written by a person, rather than using an Russian approved algorithm.  Lesson learned I hope tovarich!
 
2020-08-01 2:55:12 PM  
5 votes:

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


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Also, Welcome to Fark, Trumper who is likely someones alt.

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2020-08-01 2:43:10 PM  
5 votes:

Mrbogey: Who cares that the treasonous wuss had his career opportunities limited? He's moved onto a new lucrative career of bilking self hating white millennial privileged morons.


Was it your intention as well to post on fark today and show everyone in the thread your ass?
 
2020-08-01 2:14:30 PM  
5 votes:

dionysusaur: That read an awful lot like a campaign announcement.
I hope he does.


I'd vote for him.
 
2020-08-01 9:00:39 PM  
4 votes:

acloverandabee: iron de havilland: bostonguy: And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.

That's called constructive dismissal.

Another way this is done is called mobbing. The boss picks a ringleader to rile the other employees up against the one who they would like to see quit. The group works together to make the victim's life hell. It's extremely psychologically damaging. I'm still suffering and it's been 4 years since I quit. Vindman must be made of strong stuff.


Condolences. I'm one year out from it, and still pretty messed up. I wish I could say "don't be a whistle blower", but I can't not do the right thing.
 
2020-08-01 3:29:46 PM  
4 votes:

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


I believe he resigned because HIS promotion was the reason a bunch of promotions would be held up. He appears a decent man, regardless of politics. He clearly did not wish to be the reason for that. Can you guess why it happened that only HE was put in such a position?

You act like he held any cards in this while he clearly did not. It was orchestrated by a guy who shuts down entire companies because people mock him on video. He may be conveniently right about the China spy thing (I think he is) but they were here already. It wasn't an issue until they came for him with some actual results.

We may disagree about whether he should "stick it out" in a hostile environment, but if the underlying reason he resigned was to avoid holding up other promotions because he was stubborn, it is consistent with his public character.

And so what if he is going to run for office. He's absolutely allowed (I read that as more of a "going into the consulting business" than coming for the Cheeto") and he should. Smart people in elected government who have served the country in a non elected way are awesome people to have around for what they know.

Again, regardless of party, if you saw a similar guy on the other side with his general attributes you should recruit that person.

One more thing: having your family threatened and requiring military protection to keep them safe, maybe that could motivate the person to oppose rather vigorously the ones who brought it into his life.

Perhaps you have a spine of similar hardness to his. I am not sure I do, if my family is a target. Come for me, sure, my job makes me fair game, but I'm out if it goes to the threat my job could have on people who are not me.
 
2020-08-01 3:07:43 PM  
4 votes:

sdd2000: fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.

Citations for any of those things?


Don't bother. It's fart being fart.
 
2020-08-01 2:20:11 PM  
4 votes:

bostonguy: And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.


I had that done to me. I couldn't afford to quit so I continued to work. My work quality suffered and they fired me for it. I filed for unemployment. They challenged it. I won.
 
2020-08-01 1:53:35 PM  
4 votes:

RanHakubi: Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.

Calling Tammy Duckworth a republican was pretty gross. The woman gives up both her legs for this country, says "I ain't done yet", serves in the US Senate, and then proceeds to stick her titanium leg up the ass of those who need it, and you say she's a Republican.


You are a nicer person than I am - which means you really are a nice person as I'm from Iowa these days and Iowans seem to like me (the progressive Cedar Rapids types).  The clown is either are whining Bernie Bro or a trumper - in my world these days there isn't a lot of difference.  What he (she?) said about Duckworth was so annoying I really wanted to get my post erased by the mod-nazi but apparently didn't quite go far enough.
 
2020-08-01 1:49:12 PM  
4 votes:
Oh jebus.... they're tag teaming threads now.

*catjumpingintospace.gif*
 
2020-08-01 1:08:09 PM  
4 votes:
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2020-08-01 12:07:09 PM  
4 votes:

TaDu: Take some time for rest and relaxation over the next 2 months Colonel, you may be called to serve your fellow citizens again in the not-so-distant future for an administration that appreciates your commitment to truth and honor.


This. Hopefully as a general, though I don't know if it's possible to hop past the full colonel position during peacetime.
 
2020-08-01 5:00:22 PM  
3 votes:

spongeboob: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Satire?


*wanking motion*
 
2020-08-01 4:40:33 PM  
3 votes:

Nonpo: firefly212: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

As a veteran, I don't think I've got it in me to tell a guy who survived an IED blast and relearned to walk that he needs to "stick it out" while a bunch of fat fark politicians and unelected assholes make his life and that of his entire family, a living hell, just so he can get a few more bucks out of an unappreciative nation for both his sacrifice before, and the risk he took to tell congress the truth and do the right thing.

But good on you for knowing whats best for him.

All I said is that if he wanted to be colonel all he had to do was wait and that his stated reason of quitting because he would never make colonel didn't make much sense considering the only impediment to his making colonel would be gone come January. Clearly he just didn't want it bad enough, that's fine, that's his decision and I don't care and I'm certainly not seeking out Mr Vindman to tell him he's wrong so you can hop off with this ridiculous line of criticism.


I just don't get why everyone is treating me like I'm the devil for pointing out that he could have gotten what he wanted if he just waited. You are all making a mountain out of a mole hill. If one person does something good they should be rewarded and praised for that, but it doesn't make them immune to all criticism for the rest of their life. I literally just called him shortsighted because he could have gotten what he wanted if he just waited. That is the criticism I am levying here and you people are acting like I am calling him Hitler or something.


Poor baby. Want a tissue?
 
2020-08-01 4:06:34 PM  
3 votes:

Olthoi: Biden should reinstate him and promote him to secretary of the army.


Secretary of the Army is a civilian position so no need to reinstate him.
 
2020-08-01 2:28:16 PM  
3 votes:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


Wow, I can't even remember the last time I saw a fernt post! Did they let you out for good behavior?
 
2020-08-01 2:16:43 PM  
3 votes:

TaDu: Take some time for rest and relaxation over the next 2 months Colonel, you may be called to serve your fellow citizens again in the not-so-distant future for an administration that appreciates your commitment to truth and honor.


THIS.

*Salutes*
 
2020-08-01 1:26:02 PM  
3 votes:

Rwa2play: gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.

Biden should make him Joints Chiefs of Staff...out of spite.


Better might be a Deputy or Assistant Secretary of Army (or possibly Secretary of Army)
 
2020-08-01 5:08:16 PM  
2 votes:

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Nobody working for the Trump administration is an American.
 
2020-08-01 4:37:30 PM  
2 votes:

sdd2000: fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.

Citations for any of those things?


C'mon man, you know how it goes.  Threadshiat and leave.  No citations no follow up.  Whataboutisim, deflections, picking one minute point of another post and claiming pigeon chess victories.

The Captain of the Fark Idiot Troll Brigade doesn't do things half assed.  Even when it just shows that it's an ass.
 
2020-08-01 3:27:36 PM  
2 votes:

mongbiohazard: Cornelis de Gyselaer: theflatline: Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.

I have been here for 20 years. And I am an asshole.

Funny I have no recollection of you and I have a good god man memory.

You are part of a pattern of accounts that BSAB.

And it looks like we're to see a rate increase here
Income is down, I wonder why?

Happened during the 2016 campaign too. Old zombie accounts suddenly spinning up, all shouting the same messaging, then disappearing once election day happened.

I don't think it has anything to do with low revenue at Fark though. I just think people underestimate the scale, reach, and scope of organized disinformation campaigns on the internet by political organizations and nation states.


Agreed. Someone who learns how to effectively derail threads here can do serious damage in Reddit or local news comments or even national news comments. I'm not saying we are influential, just that this is the big leagues of internet commentary and if you can make it here you can make it anywhere.
 
2020-08-01 3:05:10 PM  
2 votes:
My Klezmer Metal Cover Band:

The problem for Vindman - and alas, for all of us really - isn't that Trump goes away in January. The problem is that there will be no way to de-Trumpify America, after.

It's going to take a long time; we haven't De-Confederatized America yet either.  But one advantage of a cult of personality is that the personality's going to be gone quickly, though the years of Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove promoting divisiveness and hatred that made Trump possible are still with us.

And speaking of Klezmer metal cover bands, have you heard The Klezmer Mountain Boys, doing klezmer bluegrass?  (There are also bluegrass bands doing Pink Floyd, first the Austin Lounge Lizards and then Poor Man's Whiskey's "Dark Side of the Moon ... Shine".)
 
2020-08-01 2:42:16 PM  
2 votes:

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

The problem for Vindman - and alas, for all of us really - isn't that Trump goes away in January. The problem is that there will be no way to de-Trumpify America, after. There will still be millions of sniveling little bootlickers and some of them will inevitably be in positions of authority. Vindman's colleagues are shot through with trumpery bullshiat and how does he ever get promoted general with the US Senate composed of fearful old Trumpers?

He won't be the last. A lot of us are going to have problems. Most of those won't be as clean-lined or as public and you can bet your last dollar the consequences will fall disproportionately on women, people of color, LGBTQ, basically anyone who doesn't look trumpy enough. "Oh gee that's really a shame, huh. Too bad you libs voted for Sleepy Joe I guess." They are going to punish you for Trump's endless failure.


Thank you for actually telling me what issues you have with what I said unlike everyone else. That is a valid point, because Trump showed he wants Vindman punished, anyone in the cult of Trump will want him punished and that cult won't go away if Trump loses and many members of the military even high up will be in that cult. He probably could have gotten Colonel but he still would have had to put up with lots of bullshiat so he is walking away. Makes sense.
 
2020-08-01 2:41:44 PM  
2 votes:

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.

What WAS it your intention to come here and show everyone your ass today?

 
2020-08-01 2:40:05 PM  
2 votes:
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2020-08-01 2:05:06 PM  
2 votes:

acloverandabee: iron de havilland: bostonguy: And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.

That's called constructive dismissal.

Another way this is done is called mobbing. The boss picks a ringleader to rile the other employees up against the one who they would like to see quit. The group works together to make the victim's life hell. It's extremely psychologically damaging. I'm still suffering and it's been 4 years since I quit. Vindman must be made of strong stuff.


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2020-08-01 1:44:10 PM  
2 votes:

theflatline: Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.

I have been here for 20 years. And I am an asshole.

Funny I have no recollection of you and I have a good god man memory.

You are part of a pattern of accounts that BSAB.


And it looks like we're to see a rate increase here
Income is down, I wonder why?
 
2020-08-01 1:24:11 PM  
2 votes:

Nonpo: BizarreMan: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.

If he was serious about defending our nation like he says here, he would need to have a position of power to be able to do it. He did the right thing by testifying, that was admirable, but if "bullying" is the worst he is experiencing and he gave up being a Colonel for it I have to ask, is he really making the sacrifice for the greater good here? If he stuck it out until the election then he could have been granted the power to do what he says he wants to do. I want men of honor like him in positions of power especially since he is also an expert on Russia during a time when Russia is attacking our democracy. If all he had to do was withstand a little "invective" in the workplace for a while to get that position of power then I have to wonder why he didn't do it. If it turns out he's running for office I guess I'll have my answer.


He will be working for Compassion In Action within the next 6 months.
 
2020-08-02 2:23:57 AM  
1 vote:

Nonpo: I just don't get why everyone is treating me like I'm the devil


No, I'm treating you like an ignorant fool.

Stop posting fact free comments and I won't treat you like an ignorant fool.
 
2020-08-01 9:12:09 PM  
1 vote:

jerryskid: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

So you would stay at a job where everyone around you is sucking putin's dick every day, then wandering the halls with putin semen glued to the corners of their mouths?


I'm gonna guess he's thinking "yes".

/and it has nothing to do with putin
 
2020-08-01 6:26:49 PM  
1 vote:

Peter von Nostrand: CrazyCurt: Watch him run for Congress as a Republican. Heads will explode.

/ I think he WAS registered as one, might not be so much now.

No heads on the left would explode, so long as he still doesn't sell out for a few rubles.


That's precisely how I meant it. The GOP would lose their minds.

/ Whole Country Clubs would melt down with pure rage!
 
2020-08-01 3:44:40 PM  
1 vote:

Rwa2play: gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.

Biden should make him Joints Chiefs of Staff...out of spite.


Yeah, Biden can't do that, and he's not qualified for that position (yet).

It's possible he could be called back to active duty and promoted, but there a ton of civil service gigs doing a step up from what he did at NSC.
 
2020-08-01 3:39:03 PM  
1 vote:

theflatline: Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.

I have been here for 20 years. And I am an asshole.

Funny I have no recollection of you and I have a good god man memory.

You are part of a pattern of accounts that BSAB.


Represent, yo.
 
2020-08-01 3:07:14 PM  
1 vote:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.
He violated the chain of command and lied about it.
He was willfully insubordinate.
He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.
Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


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2020-08-01 2:49:53 PM  
1 vote:

RanHakubi: Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.

Calling Tammy Duckworth a republican was pretty gross. The woman gives up both her legs for this country, says "I ain't done yet", serves in the US Senate, and then proceeds to stick her titanium leg up the ass of those who need it, and you say she's a Republican.


I will admit that was probably unfair to her. I find her nationalism to be alarming but she's not a republican.
 
2020-08-01 2:38:29 PM  
1 vote:

fernt: He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.


What it your intention to come here and show everyone your ass today?
 
2020-08-01 1:56:53 PM  
1 vote:

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


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2020-08-01 1:42:36 PM  
1 vote:
Obama destroyed Trump, Trump runs for office, wins. Trump destroys Vindman, Vindman runs for office, wins. Vindman destroys America's enemies, our enemies run for office, wins.

SO THEREFORE OBAMA = DEATH OF AMERICA
 
2020-08-01 1:41:35 PM  
1 vote:
He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.
 
2020-08-01 1:38:28 PM  
1 vote:

mongbiohazard: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

If life was fair, sure, but it isn't and in real world terms that isn't how it works.

From what all my military friends have told me, being involved in something this big, public, and political means his career in military intelligence is effectively over regardless of who is in the White House. Even though he did everything he was supposed to do, he's damaged goods now. His career inside the military just hit a brick wall.


It's entirely possible he has something lined up in the guard or reserves, possibly even in the grade of O-6. The Army isn't in the business of flushing good people out of spite, and there's nothing the president could do to stop a state from putting him in its own organization.
 
2020-08-01 1:36:14 PM  
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Does this mean that if he tries to run for governor of a state someday he can only ever run for Lt Governor? Because he retired as a Lt Colonel?


/S
//Runs for the door
///Is allergic to rotten fruit
 
2020-08-01 1:23:45 PM  
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gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.


Biden should make him Joints Chiefs of Staff...out of spite.
 
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