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2020-08-01 10:09:08 AM  
Take some time for rest and relaxation over the next 2 months Colonel, you may be called to serve your fellow citizens again in the not-so-distant future for an administration that appreciates your commitment to truth and honor.
 
2020-08-01 10:24:56 AM  
That read an awful lot like a campaign announcement.
I hope he does.
 
2020-08-01 10:27:56 AM  

dionysusaur: That read an awful lot like a campaign announcement.
I hope he does.


It was quite impressive.
 
2020-08-01 10:44:04 AM  
The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.
 
2020-08-01 10:48:26 AM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.
 
2020-08-01 10:51:46 AM  
In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.
 
2020-08-01 11:31:34 AM  

BizarreMan: Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.


I once had a job that was literally driving me crazy -- major anxiety disorder with panic attacks -- and no amount of money could have gotten me to stay. It sucks that the White House was evil enough to know that he would leave if they treated him like shiat enough.
 
2020-08-01 11:53:33 AM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.
 
2020-08-01 12:05:32 PM  
And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.
 
2020-08-01 12:05:36 PM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Five years would be a long time to wait for a promotion.
 
2020-08-01 12:07:09 PM  

TaDu: Take some time for rest and relaxation over the next 2 months Colonel, you may be called to serve your fellow citizens again in the not-so-distant future for an administration that appreciates your commitment to truth and honor.


This. Hopefully as a general, though I don't know if it's possible to hop past the full colonel position during peacetime.
 
2020-08-01 12:11:21 PM  

bostonguy: And plus, one common management tactic when you don't want to hire someone is to make their job or workday terrible enough that they quit.

I've never done that, but I know people who were treated that way -- and they only realized it after the fact.


That's called constructive dismissal.
 
2020-08-01 12:17:11 PM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Some people have values. You're not one of those.
 
2020-08-01 12:29:34 PM  

BizarreMan: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.


If he was serious about defending our nation like he says here, he would need to have a position of power to be able to do it. He did the right thing by testifying, that was admirable, but if "bullying" is the worst he is experiencing and he gave up being a Colonel for it I have to ask, is he really making the sacrifice for the greater good here? If he stuck it out until the election then he could have been granted the power to do what he says he wants to do. I want men of honor like him in positions of power especially since he is also an expert on Russia during a time when Russia is attacking our democracy. If all he had to do was withstand a little "invective" in the workplace for a while to get that position of power then I have to wonder why he didn't do it. If it turns out he's running for office I guess I'll have my answer.
 
2020-08-01 12:32:04 PM  

WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.


That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.
 
2020-08-01 12:34:22 PM  

Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.


If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.
 
2020-08-01 1:05:05 PM  
If Biden doesn't does something rewarding for this man shortly after taking office, it will be a huge shame.
 
2020-08-01 1:07:27 PM  
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2020-08-01 1:07:56 PM  

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.


faaaaaarrrt
 
2020-08-01 1:08:09 PM  
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2020-08-01 1:10:24 PM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


This is wrong.

Read Trescott's article on the subject here.

FTA:

This is why many lieutenant colonels retire once they reach 20 years in the Army, because if they're not on the colonels list the first time out of the box, they know their careers are effectively over.

and

He had gotten word that pressure had been put on the Pentagon to remove him from the colonels list and effectively end his career.
 
2020-08-01 1:11:05 PM  

Nonpo: BizarreMan: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.

If he was serious about defending our nation like he says here, he would need to have a position of power to be able to do it. He did the right thing by testifying, that was admirable, but if "bullying" is the worst he is experiencing and he gave up being a Colonel for it I have to ask, is he really making the sacrifice for the greater good here? If he stuck it out until the election then he could have been granted the power to do what he says he wants to do. I want men of honor like him in positions of power especially since he is also an expert on Russia during a time when Russia is attacking our democracy. If all he had to do was withstand a little "invective" in the workplace for a while to get that position of power then I have to wonder why he didn't do it. If it turns out he's running for office I guess I'll have my answer.


Power as a Colonel during peacetime?

He'll have far more power in Congress or as part of the far more lucrative civilian side of National Defense.
 
2020-08-01 1:12:29 PM  

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2020-08-01 1:12:30 PM  
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2020-08-01 1:12:59 PM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


Satire?
 
2020-08-01 1:13:32 PM  
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2020-08-01 1:13:36 PM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


I thought it was a colonel promotion.
 
2020-08-01 1:15:09 PM  
Apparently M. No-pro isn't familiar with how the military works especially when it comes to senior officers.
 
2020-08-01 1:16:01 PM  

SonOfSpam: you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

I thought it was a colonel promotion.


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Major...promotion
 
2020-08-01 1:18:17 PM  

gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.


Vindman-Polis 2024.
 
2020-08-01 1:21:56 PM  
AntiNerd:  This is why many lieutenant colonels retire once they reach 20 years in the Army, because if they're not on the colonels list the first time out of the box, they know their careers are effectively over.

My ex FIL retired out as a light colonel, Army Chemical Corps.  He said pretty much exactly this ^^^

He was a wonkish dude in a evaporating field.
 
2020-08-01 1:22:16 PM  

spongeboob: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Satire?


Bad poetry
 
2020-08-01 1:23:21 PM  

Nonpo: If he was serious about defending our nation


What?
 
2020-08-01 1:23:45 PM  

gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.


Biden should make him Joints Chiefs of Staff...out of spite.
 
2020-08-01 1:24:11 PM  

Nonpo: BizarreMan: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Even if you have to deal with a constant stream of invective and vile actions on a daily basis?  Sometimes for your mental health and safety you have to step away from a job you love.

If he was serious about defending our nation like he says here, he would need to have a position of power to be able to do it. He did the right thing by testifying, that was admirable, but if "bullying" is the worst he is experiencing and he gave up being a Colonel for it I have to ask, is he really making the sacrifice for the greater good here? If he stuck it out until the election then he could have been granted the power to do what he says he wants to do. I want men of honor like him in positions of power especially since he is also an expert on Russia during a time when Russia is attacking our democracy. If all he had to do was withstand a little "invective" in the workplace for a while to get that position of power then I have to wonder why he didn't do it. If it turns out he's running for office I guess I'll have my answer.


He will be working for Compassion In Action within the next 6 months.
 
2020-08-01 1:24:27 PM  

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


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2020-08-01 1:25:14 PM  

Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.


If life was fair, sure, but it isn't and in real world terms that isn't how it works.

From what all my military friends have told me, being involved in something this big, public, and political means his career in military intelligence is effectively over regardless of who is in the White House. Even though he did everything he was supposed to do, he's damaged goods now. His career inside the military just hit a brick wall.
 
2020-08-01 1:26:02 PM  

Rwa2play: gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.

Biden should make him Joints Chiefs of Staff...out of spite.


Better might be a Deputy or Assistant Secretary of Army (or possibly Secretary of Army)
 
2020-08-01 1:27:18 PM  
Watch him run for Congress as a Republican. Heads will explode.

/ I think he WAS registered as one, might not be so much now.
 
2020-08-01 1:27:40 PM  

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.


Calling Tammy Duckworth a republican was pretty gross. The woman gives up both her legs for this country, says "I ain't done yet", serves in the US Senate, and then proceeds to stick her titanium leg up the ass of those who need it, and you say she's a Republican.
 
2020-08-01 1:29:36 PM  

Nonpo: Porkbelly: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

You have an amazing ability to sound remarkably stupid, you must have learned it from trump.

If you have an issue with something I have said, kindly explain what it is.


I have been here for 20 years. And I am an asshole.

Funny I have no recollection of you and I have a good god man memory.

You are part of a pattern of accounts that BSAB.
 
2020-08-01 1:29:37 PM  

Nonpo: WTFDYW: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

Some people have values. You're not one of those.

That's an outrageous slander of me. I have extremely deeply held values and a very strong moral compass. What evidence do you have that would suggest otherwise? Put up or shut up.


*SNERK*

*BAW HA HA HA HA HA HA!*

Thanks, I really needed that, this week.
 
2020-08-01 1:32:08 PM  
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2020-08-01 1:34:04 PM  

sdd2000: Rwa2play: gilgigamesh: In retirement from the Army, I will continue to defend my nation. I will demand accountability of our leadership and call for leaders of moral courage and public servants of integrity. I will speak about the attacks on our national security. I will advocate for policies and strategies that will keep our nation safe and strong against internal and external threats. I will promote public service and exalt the contribution that service brings to all areas of society.


Ooo.  Someone is running for Congress.

Good.

Biden should make him Joints Chiefs of Staff...out of spite.

Better might be a Deputy or Assistant Secretary of Army (or possibly Secretary of Army)


Ambassador to Ukraine; he knows stuff.
 
2020-08-01 1:36:14 PM  
Does this mean that if he tries to run for governor of a state someday he can only ever run for Lt Governor? Because he retired as a Lt Colonel?


/S
//Runs for the door
///Is allergic to rotten fruit
 
2020-08-01 1:38:28 PM  

mongbiohazard: Nonpo: The army recommended him for promotion to colonel so all he had to do was stick it out until Trump was gone and he would have gotten it. It seems amazingly shortsighted to resign because you would have to wait a year for a major promotion.

If life was fair, sure, but it isn't and in real world terms that isn't how it works.

From what all my military friends have told me, being involved in something this big, public, and political means his career in military intelligence is effectively over regardless of who is in the White House. Even though he did everything he was supposed to do, he's damaged goods now. His career inside the military just hit a brick wall.


It's entirely possible he has something lined up in the guard or reserves, possibly even in the grade of O-6. The Army isn't in the business of flushing good people out of spite, and there's nothing the president could do to stop a state from putting him in its own organization.
 
2020-08-01 1:40:19 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: TaDu: Take some time for rest and relaxation over the next 2 months Colonel, you may be called to serve your fellow citizens again in the not-so-distant future for an administration that appreciates your commitment to truth and honor.

This. Hopefully as a general, though I don't know if it's possible to hop past the full colonel position during peacetime.


Promote him to O-6, retroactive to when he would have gotten the promotion had the administration not stalled it, and give him a choice: he can stay in retirement, at which point his retirement will be amended to be effective at that point, or he can accept a joint duty assignment (a requirement to be promoted to flag officer) and then promotion to O-7 (subject to Senate confirmation, of course). If Congress needs to approve it, they can slip an amendment in a post office naming bill or something that allows for such actions for any military personnel who were subjected to illegal retaliation and were either discharged or retired as a result.
 
2020-08-01 1:40:40 PM  
Vindman is an American Hero. Period. His character, expertise, training and patriotism will be his testimony and resume for anyone interested in talent.
 
2020-08-01 1:41:04 PM  

CrazyCurt: Watch him run for Congress as a Republican. Heads will explode.

/ I think he WAS registered as one, might not be so much now.


No heads on the left would explode, so long as he still doesn't sell out for a few rubles.
 
2020-08-01 1:41:35 PM  
He knowingly violated military rules.

He violated the chain of command and lied about it.

He was willfully insubordinate.

He lied under oath about not knowing the identity of the whistleblower.

Vindman was vindictive due to his own Trump Hate agenda. He's lucky he wasn't court martialed.
 
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