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(Vox)   Someone actually thinks Taylor Swift is the "millennial Bruce Springsteen". (clicks link, reads article) Okay, so maybe they have a point   (vox.com) divider line
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2 days ago  
They're both massively overrated & neither can sing all that well?
 
2 days ago  
People keep misunderstand their songs and appropriating them for purposes counter to the lyrics?
 
2 days ago  
Springsteen was a cameo on CSI?
 
2 days ago  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: They're both massively overrated & neither can sing all that well?


Bruce is an excellent songwriter and a great human being.
 
2 days ago  

theflatline: Straight Outta Wells Branch: They're both massively overrated & neither can sing all that well?

Bruce is an excellent songwriter and a great human being.


And an incredibly shiatty singer.
 
2 days ago  
Springsteen is a musical genius.  Swift is a pop star.  The two are completely different things.
Bruce Springsteen - It's hard to be a saint in the city (lyrics)
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2 days ago  
No wonder I always thought Bruce sucked.
 
2 days ago  
The more I learn about music and the better I get at it, the more I appreciate people like them. They're quite brilliant.
 
2 days ago  
Bruce just looked so uncomfortable during his dance scenes in Cats.
 
2 days ago  

chucknasty: Springsteen was a cameo on CSI?


No it was Becky
 
2 days ago  

edmo: The more I learn about music and the better I get at it, the more I appreciate people like them. They're quite brilliant.


This.
I will never be a Taylor Swift fan.  Her music is just not what I appreciate.

But I can recognize the talent.

I also have grown to kind of tired of the "musicians that dont appeal to me are untalented people" thing also.
 
2 days ago  
Good take on swift
Less so on Springsteen
 
2 days ago  
Other than being a rich kid who basically purchased her way into a career, Taylor Swift's exactly like Springsteen.
 
2 days ago  
Her drummer is going to be on a former Simpson's writers late night band?
 
2 days ago  
Other than having bigger biceps, Springsteen's exactly like Taylor Swift.
 
2 days ago  

Marcus Aurelius: Springsteen is a musical genius.  Swift is a pop star.  The two are completely different things.
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While I have gut instincts to follow you down that rabbit hole, I must disagree. Bruce put huge effort into becoming a 'successful recording artist' in the sense of working to sell records and appeal to the general public. In many ways, he's more of a sell-out than Becky. I prefer Bruce but if you're going to be an honest critic, Taylor Swift has pursued her art in as honest and authentic way as Bruce, even if she may have gotten a start in a different way from Springsteen.

So ultimately, each figured out what they needed to do to get a start and worked until it happened, and then each has pursued their career in an honest manner. The similarities over-ride the differences.
 
2 days ago  

PaulRB: Other than being a rich kid who basically purchased her way into a career, Taylor Swift's exactly like Springsteen.


You can be both born into incredible privilege and be incredibly good at what you do. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Look at some of the top players in sports right now:

NFL: The best QB (Mahomes) has a dad who played 13 years in MLB, and arguably the best RB (McCaffery)'s father was a Hall of Fame NFL player in his own right.

NBA: Steph Curry and Klay Thompson's fathers had long NBA careers. Kevin Love's father played in NBA and his uncle was one of the Beach Boys.
 
2 days ago  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: theflatline: Straight Outta Wells Branch: They're both massively overrated & neither can sing all that well?

Bruce is an excellent songwriter and a great human being.

And an incredibly shiatty singer.


No, you're thinking of Bob Dylan 😜
 
2 days ago  

PaulRB: Other than being a rich kid who basically purchased her way into a career, Taylor Swift's exactly like Springsteen.


You think she's the only daughter of a really rich person who wants to be a singer?
 
2 days ago  
The most obvious difference between the reception of Springsteen and Swift is also the most obvious difference between the two of them as people: He is a man, and she is a woman.

Swift didn't exactly discourage listeners from constantly parsing her lyrics to figure out which of her famous exes she was singing about early in her career; she even hid hints in her liner notes to help fans decode her clues. But the degree to which she was written off, for years, as a fundamentally unserious and self-involved artist reflects the ways in which domestic and romantic concerns are written off as unimportant when women talk about them.

By comparison, Springsteen has so many songs about teenage boys crushing on teenage girls, but few people try to figure out who he's talking about when he mentions the almost mythical "Mary" in songs throughout his career. Perhaps it's because he wasn't dating famous people as a teenager, and perhaps because it's sadly still too common to think a man singing about an adolescent crush has more artistic merit than a woman doing the same thing.


You're reaching here.  Rock is filled with classic female-sung songs about adolsecent crushes.  "Leader Of The Pack."  "It's My Party."  "He's So Fine."

The author is right the first time: Swift isn't taken as serious as a songwriter as Springsteen because she spent too much time inviting the listener to believe that her songs were autobiographical and personal, rather than universal.  Nobody is trying to figure out who the various characters in Springsteen's songs represent because it's always been clear that Springsteen's characters are just archetypes.
 
2 days ago  
Songs by Bruce about exes: 50. Sing by Bruce about cunnilingus = 0. Coincidence?
 
2 days ago  

PaulRB: Other than being a rich kid who basically purchased her way into a career, Taylor Swift's exactly like Springsteen.


Bruce was in the cover of Time and Newsweek on the same week in 1975. At the time they were both selling millions of copies a week and were incredibly important news sources. To make the cover of both magazines at the same time was not done with out having one serious pr machine supporting you.
 
2 days ago  

wademh: Marcus Aurelius: Springsteen is a musical genius.  Swift is a pop star.  The two are completely different things.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/s9aklSlM​thc]

While I have gut instincts to follow you down that rabbit hole, I must disagree. Bruce put huge effort into becoming a 'successful recording artist' in the sense of working to sell records and appeal to the general public. In many ways, he's more of a sell-out than Becky. I prefer Bruce but if you're going to be an honest critic, Taylor Swift has pursued her art in as honest and authentic way as Bruce, even if she may have gotten a start in a different way from Springsteen.

So ultimately, each figured out what they needed to do to get a start and worked until it happened, and then each has pursued their career in an honest manner. The similarities over-ride the differences.


Great post. I was trying to come up with a response to OP but you nailed it.

Bruce has left an incredible legacy but I would never use the word "genius" to describe his work. Nothing about his songwriting and performances is intuitive, it's all been studied out and practiced. He willed himself to be successful, and it worked.

Counterpoint - Stevie Wonder, musical genius.
 
2 days ago  
 
2 days ago  
Bruce Springsteen is a VERY American singer. Apart from "Born in USA", he's not that famous outside of America. And I have to admit, listening to some others of his song, I've always wondered what the big deal was.
 
2 days ago  
I came in here for pictures of a singer's legs.

Leaving disappointed.

/please post pictures of Springsteen's legs
 
2 days ago  

FarkingReading: I came in here for pictures of a singer's legs.

Leaving disappointed.

/please post pictures of Springsteen's legs


Instructions unclear, posting Jessica Springsteen's legs:

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2 days ago  
Are Millennials Ruining Music?
- Some Boomer
 
2 days ago  
Is she "the future of Rock and Roll" ?

Even BS wasn't.
 
kab
2 days ago  
She sings like she has marbles in her mouth and sweats profusely?

Commander Lysdexic: Are Millennials Ruining Music?
- Some Boomer


Gen X ruined music, the decline is simply continuing.

/gen x
 
2 days ago  
Sorry, but I got the impression she only writes songs about ex-boyfriends.
 
2 days ago  

johnphantom: she writes songs


The future is now
 
2 days ago  

Billy Liar: Is she "the future of Rock and Roll" ?

Even BS wasn't.


Was
 
2 days ago  
It's not a compliment.
 
2 days ago  
If Taylor Swift seriously reminds people of Bruce Springsteen, she needs to get an inmediate check up. It might just be vocal strain, but it could also be throat cancer.
 
2 days ago  

halifaxdatageek: FarkingReading: I came in here for pictures of a singer's legs.

Leaving disappointed.

/please post pictures of Springsteen's legs

Instructions unclear, posting Jessica Springsteen's legs:

[Fark user image 664x1000]


Some first-class pins on that dame.
 
2 days ago  
"Springsteen quickly flaunted those expectations..." Holy hell, that mistake drives me insane, more than it really should.
 
2 days ago  

CaptainFatass: "Springsteen quickly flaunted those expectations..." Holy hell, that mistake drives me insane, more than it really should.


Yep, definitely should've been "flouted." Good catch. Now what the hell was up with this sentence:

"...her image has slowly but surely led to a greater understanding of the yawning disparities inherent to the US."

I'm assuming it was supposed to be "the growing disparities inherent to the US."  We'd both make better copy editors than whoever works at Vox, or 95% of publications.
 
2 days ago  
They're both from New Jersey, other than Taylor Swift?
 
2 days ago  

Commander Lysdexic: Are Millennials Ruining Music?
- Some Boomer


More correctly, "Are Millennials Ruining Music Further?"
 
2 days ago  

Keyser_Soze_Death: It's not a compliment.


So Bruce Springsteen sucks, and Taylor Swift sucks. What music do you listen to while you're rewinding your VHS copies of The Usual Suspects?
 
2 days ago  

Eddie Hazel's E string: CaptainFatass: "Springsteen quickly flaunted those expectations..." Holy hell, that mistake drives me insane, more than it really should.

Yep, definitely should've been "flouted." Good catch. Now what the hell was up with this sentence:

"...her image has slowly but surely led to a greater understanding of the yawning disparities inherent to the US."

I'm assuming it was supposed to be "the growing disparities inherent to the US."  We'd both make better copy editors than whoever works at Vox, or 95% of publications.


When you yawn, your mouth grows wider. I think the sentence is correct as it is.
 
2 days ago  

Not_Todd: Eddie Hazel's E string: CaptainFatass: "Springsteen quickly flaunted those expectations..." Holy hell, that mistake drives me insane, more than it really should.

Yep, definitely should've been "flouted." Good catch. Now what the hell was up with this sentence:

"...her image has slowly but surely led to a greater understanding of the yawning disparities inherent to the US."

I'm assuming it was supposed to be "the growing disparities inherent to the US."  We'd both make better copy editors than whoever works at Vox, or 95% of publications.

When you yawn, your mouth grows wider. I think the sentence is correct as it is.


Well, correct grammatically.
 
2 days ago  

johnphantom: Sorry, but I got the impression she only writes songs about ex-boyfriends.


That would have been wrong ten years ago, and is pretty inexplicable to believe in 2020 :P
 
2 days ago  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: No wonder I always thought Bruce sucked.


He does suck, but more as a human being.

Yes, I worked a few venues, and every single time he, his crew, and anyone attached to the tour were miserable to work with or near. And the entire crew talked and treated fans like sh*t. Middle of a dust storm, he stopped the venue from opening doors to get people OUT of the wind and sand, because he didn't want to interrupt his basketball game. When we tried to let folks in just to first floor, he threatened to pull the show.

I've also worked with Taylor Swift at the same venues, and I gotta say, that her crew and tour were punctual and professional, and Taylor herself was great to the staff and crew. And great with her fans. Her music isn't really to my taste, but neither is Vance Gilbert's stuff, but Vance IS one of the nicest acts I've ever worked with. Kevin Bacon and his brother? FOROSOCO isn't my cup of tea either, but they're really great guys. Taylor Swift's tour AREN'T to the level of AWESOME that Willy Nelson's tours are, but she's a damn sight closer than Bruce has ever thought about being.
 
2 days ago  

Eddie Hazel's E string: CaptainFatass: "Springsteen quickly flaunted those expectations..." Holy hell, that mistake drives me insane, more than it really should.

Yep, definitely should've been "flouted." Good catch. Now what the hell was up with this sentence:

"...her image has slowly but surely led to a greater understanding of the yawning disparities inherent to the US."

I'm assuming it was supposed to be "the growing disparities inherent to the US."  We'd both make better copy editors than whoever works at Vox, or 95% of publications.


Oh, that is a good one too! I actually feel bad for copy editors in the age of internet journalism. If they even have jobs at this point (that seems to have been the first editorial tier that was tossed, for the most part, in the switch from print to digital), they are completely overwhelmed by the volume of content getting thrown out there. Better off going the non-journalism route; copy editing medical journals and corporate earnings reports is probably more secure and more lucrative at this point.
 
2 days ago  

hubiestubert: Adolf Oliver Nipples: No wonder I always thought Bruce sucked.

He does suck, but more as a human being.

Yes, I worked a few venues, and every single time he, his crew, and anyone attached to the tour were miserable to work with or near. And the entire crew talked and treated fans like sh*t. Middle of a dust storm, he stopped the venue from opening doors to get people OUT of the wind and sand, because he didn't want to interrupt his basketball game. When we tried to let folks in just to first floor, he threatened to pull the show.

I've also worked with Taylor Swift at the same venues, and I gotta say, that her crew and tour were punctual and professional, and Taylor herself was great to the staff and crew. And great with her fans. Her music isn't really to my taste, but neither is Vance Gilbert's stuff, but Vance IS one of the nicest acts I've ever worked with. Kevin Bacon and his brother? FOROSOCO isn't my cup of tea either, but they're really great guys. Taylor Swift's tour AREN'T to the level of AWESOME that Willy Nelson's tours are, but she's a damn sight closer than Bruce has ever thought about being.


Just don't grab her bare ass during a photo-op. She doesn't like that.
 
2 days ago  
I'm not a huge follower but I've heard her songs on the radio over the years.  The last few albums felt like she was bouncing around all over the place.  At times it felt like she was on the verge of an artistic breakthrough, but other times she just seemed to get dragged back into bullshiat feuds and politics.  I think the defining moment for her was last year when the private equity farks who own her music tried to hold it hostage and she basically nuked them from orbit.  That was the moment when she seemed to finally realize how much power she has and she stopped giving a fark.  I haven't listened as much to the new stuff but it sounds like she's finally figuring out who she is.

Laugh if you want, but anyone who can slap the shiat out of a private equity firm is a hero of mine.
 
2 days ago  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: theflatline: Straight Outta Wells Branch: They're both massively overrated & neither can sing all that well?

Bruce is an excellent songwriter and a great human being.

And an incredibly shiatty singer.


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2 days ago  

FreeLawyer: PaulRB: Other than being a rich kid who basically purchased her way into a career, Taylor Swift's exactly like Springsteen.

Bruce was in the cover of Time and Newsweek on the same week in 1975. At the time they were both selling millions of copies a week and were incredibly important news sources. To make the cover of both magazines at the same time was not done with out having one serious pr machine supporting you.


And today's kids; 'what's a magazine?'
 
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