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2 days ago  
White president S That's a lot of evictions. If one out of six Americans is homeless, do we officially qualify as a "shiat Hole Country?"
 
2 days ago  
Ha ha I meant "White prez SHC"
 
2 days ago  
"It's hard for me to conceive of someone being willing to put another person out in the street in the middle of a deadly pandemic, and I'm high risk. I'm 70. I have heart issues and I'm diabetic," Azar said.

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2 days ago  
Everybody just slide one apartment over and start over.

At some point, the tenants have more power than the landlords if they acted collectively.

I'm just saying...
 
2 days ago  
How in hell are they going to fight 43,000,000 squatters?

The social contract Etch-A-Sketch just gets shaken and upwards of 50 million people just say, "What rent?"
 
2 days ago  

wejash: Everybody just slide one apartment over and start over.

At some point, the tenants have more power than the landlords if they acted collectively.

I'm just saying...


All the bootstrappy Fox news will just tell you that that's socializm.
 
2 days ago  
Yeah, and where will those millions go? I get the impression that a bunch of mayors, governors, and congress critters are about to find out.
 
2 days ago  
Millions homeless? Small potatoes compared to Trump just banning Tik Tok.

Focus on what's important people.
 
2 days ago  
'Murica.
 
2 days ago  
43 million homeless people don't have addresses where they can receive their Amazon shipments. The 3,500 people who pay for the Netflix of those 43 million won't be able to afford it anymore. Everyone they'll have to ditch their smartphones and switch to burners. These things aren't big deals, until the bottom falls out from under the stonks. Once congresscritters remember this part of the fallout, THEN they'll be inspired to act.

It would be easier and better for everyone if they could just take their cues from more fundamental factors like humanitarian crisis or global pandemic, but at least they're motivated by something.
 
2 days ago  
In the midst of a deadly heat wave.  And they're far more likely to vote (D).  Nah, coincidence. Or maybe an overzealous staffer.
 
2 days ago  

Calypsocookie: Millions homeless? Small potatoes compared to Trump just banning Tik Tok.

Focus on what's important people.


Ok 2020 has so absolutely obliterated satire that despite my decision to immediately click the Funny button, I'm now pausing and bothering to ask you if you're joking.  In the past I'd be 99.999999% certain. This year I'm down to 60%.
 
2 days ago  

pxlboy: Yeah, and where will those millions go? I get the impression that a bunch of mayors, governors, and congress critters are about to find out.


Sure, they'll mostly be from populated areas. That vote blue. They have blue mayors and congresscritters, and tend to have blue gubnahs.  So it's a nice setup to try to blame blue areas for the inevitable disaster of Trump' own creation.

/underestimating the absolute depths to which trump mcconnell will go is not a good idea
 
2 days ago  

Lambskincoat: White president S That's a lot of evictions. If one out of six Americans is homeless, do we officially qualify as a "shiat Hole Country?"


Why the future tense?

Spoiler: we were on the brink for decades and it merely caught up with us
 
2 days ago  

gameshowhost: pxlboy: Yeah, and where will those millions go? I get the impression that a bunch of mayors, governors, and congress critters are about to find out.

Sure, they'll mostly be from populated areas. That vote blue. They have blue mayors and congresscritters, and tend to have blue gubnahs.  So it's a nice setup to try to blame blue areas for the inevitable disaster of Trump' own creation.

/underestimating the absolute depths to which trump mcconnell will go is not a good idea


I hadn't thought of it from that angle.
 
2 days ago  

pxlboy: gameshowhost: pxlboy: Yeah, and where will those millions go? I get the impression that a bunch of mayors, governors, and congress critters are about to find out.

Sure, they'll mostly be from populated areas. That vote blue. They have blue mayors and congresscritters, and tend to have blue gubnahs.  So it's a nice setup to try to blame blue areas for the inevitable disaster of Trump' own creation.

/underestimating the absolute depths to which trump mcconnell will go is not a good idea

I hadn't thought of it from that angle.


I can think like the Sith since I used to be a Reagan acolyte during my stupid youth, but am 100% Jedi.  The shiat that occurs to me is pretty awful. ( ._.)
 
2 days ago  
That's more cheap homes for the wealthiest to buy and rent back to the rest of us. We're screwed.
 
b19
2 days ago  
Right now Trump is wondering aloud whether homeless people can vote or not.
 
2 days ago  
We expected things to get bad four years ago, but this is below and beyond expectations.
 
2 days ago  
Nnnnn Check please!
 
2 days ago  
Something something permanent address voter registration requirement for mail in voting.
 
2 days ago  
Except for Miller they're not even actively trying to be evil.

Let that soak in for a moment or two.
 
2 days ago  

ecmoRandomNumbers: How in hell are they going to fight 43,000,000 squatters?



They'll start with the poorest and darkest-skinned squatters first.

Bro, don't you even 'Mercia?
 
2 days ago  
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2 days ago  
[shrug]

We could have handled this in March, but that would have been too easy.

We could handle it now, but it would be "socialism". It would mean acknowledging that people who can't work through no fault of their own can't pay rent, and the government needs to pay it for them; they're not deadbeats or leeches preying on society; but that's just too subtle a point for the Calvinist swine who run this sorry nation.
 
2 days ago  

ecmoRandomNumbers: How in hell are they going to fight 43,000,000 squatters?


One at a time from darkest to lightest.
 
2 days ago  
We'll be fine as long as we have a strong leader that cares about America and takes action instead of assigning blame.
 
2 days ago  

Gyrfalcon: [shrug]

We could have handled this in March, but that would have been too easy.

We could handle it now, but it would be "socialism". It would mean acknowledging that people who can't work through no fault of their own can't pay rent, and the government needs to pay it for them; they're not deadbeats or leeches preying on society; but that's just too subtle a point for the Calvinist swine who run this sorry nation.


Aye
 
2 days ago  
It'll be ok, we're the richest country in the world.
 
2 days ago  
GREATEST. COUNTRY. ON. EARTH.

I got my SSI. What's wrong with you other slackers?
 
2 days ago  
I hate the stammering yam as much as any of you. But I think there are only around 43-45 million renters TOTAL in US. I'm in no way trying to underplay the severity of this crisis.  Forbes and Statista estimated that as many as 40% of renters may be at risk. Other agencies are estimating 20-30% eviction rates.
This is going to affect EVERYONE. Members of BOTH parties will suffer along with millions who do not participate in the political process. Annual evictions in a "normal" year are around 2.3-2.6% of all renters.

I have ALWAYS been of the mind that government will respond with more stimulus. Sadly, I don't know how much is enough or if the government even has the resources for what is coming.

I've pointed out previously, that Wall Street's gains in Dow Jones since pandemic (and particularly NASDAQ with lure of "tech" stonks) are not indicative of this country's overall economy right now.
 
2 days ago  

Dahnkster: I hate the stammering yam as much as any of you. But I think there are only around 43-45 million renters TOTAL in US. I'm in no way trying to underplay the severity of this crisis.  Forbes and Statista estimated that as many as 40% of renters may be at risk. Other agencies are estimating 20-30% eviction rates.
This is going to affect EVERYONE. Members of BOTH parties will suffer along with millions who do not participate in the political process. Annual evictions in a "normal" year are around 2.3-2.6% of all renters.

I have ALWAYS been of the mind that government will respond with more stimulus. Sadly, I don't know how much is enough or if the government even has the resources for what is coming.

I've pointed out previously, that Wall Street's gains in Dow Jones since pandemic (and particularly NASDAQ with lure of "tech" stonks) are not indicative of this country's overall economy right now.


Hi, people that can't pay their mortgages will get kicked out too.
 
2 days ago  

wejash: Everybody just slide one apartment over and start over.

At some point, the tenants have more power than the landlords if they acted collectively.

I'm just saying...


Theres yer problem right there.. acting collectively is how you catch the socializms. People are either too stupid, too selfish, or too much of an asshole to realize things might get a little better for them if they did stuff like that.

We should create an all encompassing collective or union that requires dues and provides essential services. Call it something like... Go Vermont.  People love cheering.
 
2 days ago  

Dahnkster: But I think there are only around 43-45 million renters TOTAL in US.


Citation neede- oh wait, you 'think' there are ONLY 43 MILLION renters. Ok, guess you get out of that one, you superior centrist.

100 million Americans rent.

That's 43 million households though

So you're kinda sorta maybe correct in the way that counts people of a household as a single person.

Even with your (uncited) estimates of 20-40% potential evictions, that's 20-40 MILLION people looking for a home.
Some may be taken in  by family/friends, but many will not be. So guess you can shrug your shoulders now and say 'well it's not so bad after all, dumb-dumbs'.
 
KIA
2 days ago  
A) The number is a pie-in-the-sky bullshiat guesstimate meaning absolutely nothing.
B) There is no reason for people who were unemployed for the last four months but applied for unemployment and got around $4k a month to be behind on rent or mortgage unless they were already grossly over-committed and headed toward bankruptcy anyway.
C) Assuming good hard-working people got screwed anyway, bankruptcy courts exist for a reason.  If it is really that bad, people will file for bankruptcy protection and get somewhere between 3 and 5 years (possibly up to 8 under CARES) to work it all out.
 
2 days ago  

KIA: A) The number is a pie-in-the-sky bullshiat guesstimate meaning absolutely nothing.
B) There is no reason for people who were unemployed for the last four months but applied for unemployment and got around $4k a month to be behind on rent or mortgage unless they were already grossly over-committed and headed toward bankruptcy anyway.
C) Assuming good hard-working people got screwed anyway, bankruptcy courts exist for a reason.  If it is really that bad, people will file for bankruptcy protection and get somewhere between 3 and 5 years (possibly up to 8 under CARES) to work it all out.


lol
 
2 days ago  
it's ok, it's summer.
 
2 days ago  
We own two rental properties as part of our retirement fund. When covid19 hit, we wrote to the tenants to tell them to let us know immediately if their employment circumstances changed, and we would adjust / defer / waive rent accordingly.
Both wrote back, thanked us, assured us they wanted to stay. Both have been with us for years.

This stuff isn't hard. Treat others as best you can...

/ Where have I heard that before?
 
2 days ago  

ecmoRandomNumbers: How in hell are they going to fight 43,000,000 squatters?

The social contract Etch-A-Sketch just gets shaken and upwards of 50 million people just say, "What rent?"


While I agree in principle it won't be 43m af one time. Also we do need to recognize that (especially small) landlords have bills to pay.

What we needed was the government not to dodge this bullshiat and work to keep communities together. We needed them to bail out more than the casino (Wall Street), and we still need them to address this AND people in danger of losing their houses. I've posted it before, but there shouldn't be a rent (or primary house) payment due until Feb 1st 2021. The government should pay all landlords their rent (as of Jan 1st 2020 rate and rates are locked until Feb 1st 2021) so they won't end up in the shiat. They should pay off (up to) the median house value in each state on a family's primary mortgage. No mortgage payments due until Feb 1st 2021, and all arrears that might start an eviction reset.

Wall Street got their bailout. Time for Main Street to get theirs, and keep communities together.
 
2 days ago  

Commander Lysdexic: Even with your (uncited) estimates of 20-40% potential evictions, that's 20-40 MILLION people looking for a home.
Some may be taken in by family/friends, but many will not be. So guess you can shrug your shoulders now and say 'well it's not so bad after all, dumb-dumbs'.


I was basing numbers on households and not total number of people living in rental property. The figures of 20-40% I heard on local news last week. I am in NO WAY condoning the evictions. I thought I was clear about the severity of the problem. I agree that millions may be homeless. I do not consider myself a centrist, BTW. I supported Bernie until it was clear Biden was going to win the nomination.  You are free to call me a dumb-dumb, if that makes you feel better.  Yes, 20-30 million are facing eviction if nothing is done.... And YES, the potential of additional mortgage defaults are going to make matters much worse.

Aspen Institute estimates from June 19, 2020
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2 days ago  

KIA: A) The number is a pie-in-the-sky bullshiat guesstimate meaning absolutely nothing.
B) There is no reason for people who were unemployed for the last four months but applied for unemployment and got around $4k a month to be behind on rent or mortgage unless they were already grossly over-committed and headed toward bankruptcy anyway.
C) Assuming good hard-working people got screwed anyway, bankruptcy courts exist for a reason.  If it is really that bad, people will file for bankruptcy protection and get somewhere between 3 and 5 years (possibly up to 8 under CARES) to work it all out.


Here, I got some statistics that you should really look at.
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2 days ago  

MattytheMouse: KIA: A) The number is a pie-in-the-sky bullshiat guesstimate meaning absolutely nothing.
B) There is no reason for people who were unemployed for the last four months but applied for unemployment and got around $4k a month to be behind on rent or mortgage unless they were already grossly over-committed and headed toward bankruptcy anyway.
C) Assuming good hard-working people got screwed anyway, bankruptcy courts exist for a reason.  If it is really that bad, people will file for bankruptcy protection and get somewhere between 3 and 5 years (possibly up to 8 under CARES) to work it all out.

Here, I got some statistics that you should really look at.
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Oh heck, I uploaded the wrong image by mistake. That's so weird. How did that happen?
 
2 days ago  
Maybe a compromise? Like, renters get rent forgiveness for a few months and landlords get to keep their heads attached to their necks.
 
2 days ago  

Commander Lysdexic: Dahnkster: But I think there are only around 43-45 million renters TOTAL in US.

Citation neede- oh wait, you 'think' there are ONLY 43 MILLION renters. Ok, guess you get out of that one, you superior centrist.

100 million Americans rent.

That's 43 million households though

So you're kinda sorta maybe correct in the way that counts people of a household as a single person.

Even with your (uncited) estimates of 20-40% potential evictions, that's 20-40 MILLION people looking for a home.
Some may be taken in  by family/friends, but many will not be. So guess you can shrug your shoulders now and say 'well it's not so bad after all, dumb-dumbs'.


You really need to read someone's entire post before you assume their response.
 
2 days ago  

KIA: A) The number is a pie-in-the-sky bullshiat guesstimate meaning absolutely nothing.
B) There is no reason for people who were unemployed for the last four months but applied for unemployment and got around $4k a month to be behind on rent or mortgage unless they were already grossly over-committed and headed toward bankruptcy anyway.
C) Assuming good hard-working people got screwed anyway, bankruptcy courts exist for a reason.  If it is really that bad, people will file for bankruptcy protection and get somewhere between 3 and 5 years (possibly up to 8 under CARES) to work it all out.


A - no, it's not a bullshiat guesstimate but I'm pretty sure you're one of those people who think all economics is "bullshiat guesstimate"
B - Not everyone was getting unemployment and not everyone was getting that much. Also, if they were making a salary more than $48k a year, which about half of all folks in the country do, even getting the absolute full unemployment amount was a paycut.
C - Bankruptcy doesn't prevent you from being evicted from a rental property. Depending on the type of bankruptcy, you're not going to be prevented from being foreclosed on.
 
2 days ago  

gameshowhost: pxlboy: gameshowhost: pxlboy: Yeah, and where will those millions go? I get the impression that a bunch of mayors, governors, and congress critters are about to find out.

Sure, they'll mostly be from populated areas. That vote blue. They have blue mayors and congresscritters, and tend to have blue gubnahs.  So it's a nice setup to try to blame blue areas for the inevitable disaster of Trump' own creation.

/underestimating the absolute depths to which trump mcconnell will go is not a good idea

I hadn't thought of it from that angle.

I can think like the Sith since I used to be a Reagan acolyte during my stupid youth, but am 100% Jedi.  The shiat that occurs to me is pretty awful. ( ._.)


Same here, and I expect to see voters purged for not having a residence in any district.
 
2 days ago  

Boondock3806: 43 million homeless people don't have addresses where they can receive their Amazon shipments. The 3,500 people who pay for the Netflix of those 43 million won't be able to afford it anymore. Everyone they'll have to ditch their smartphones and switch to burners. These things aren't big deals, until the bottom falls out from under the stonks. Once congresscritters remember this part of the fallout, THEN they'll be inspired to act.

It would be easier and better for everyone if they could just take their cues from more fundamental factors like humanitarian crisis or global pandemic, but at least they're motivated by something.


If they're homeless, where will the government send their mail-in ballot?
 
2 days ago  

valenumr: Boondock3806: 43 million homeless people don't have addresses where they can receive their Amazon shipments. The 3,500 people who pay for the Netflix of those 43 million won't be able to afford it anymore. Everyone they'll have to ditch their smartphones and switch to burners. These things aren't big deals, until the bottom falls out from under the stonks. Once congresscritters remember this part of the fallout, THEN they'll be inspired to act.

It would be easier and better for everyone if they could just take their cues from more fundamental factors like humanitarian crisis or global pandemic, but at least they're motivated by something.

If they're homeless, where will the government send their mail-in ballot?


It depends on their situation. When people are homeless, that doesn't always mean they are sleeping in a car. It often means they are in a shelter or in public housing or moving in with a friend or in by-the-week motels. In those cases, you have a physical address you can use. But even if you don't have a roof over your head, you can still list a street corner or a description of where you are staying as your address for voter registration. That won't help you get an absentee ballot but you can still vote in person.
 
2 days ago  

gameshowhost: pxlboy: gameshowhost: pxlboy: Yeah, and where will those millions go? I get the impression that a bunch of mayors, governors, and congress critters are about to find out.

Sure, they'll mostly be from populated areas. That vote blue. They have blue mayors and congresscritters, and tend to have blue gubnahs.  So it's a nice setup to try to blame blue areas for the inevitable disaster of Trump' own creation.

/underestimating the absolute depths to which trump mcconnell will go is not a good idea

I hadn't thought of it from that angle.

I can think like the Sith since I used to be a Reagan acolyte during my stupid youth, but am 100% Jedi.  The shiat that occurs to me is pretty awful. ( ._.)


I hate to break it to you, but the Jedi were pretty awful too.

Hot take: The Last Jedi was my second favorite Star Wars movie precisely because it spells out that the Jedi were a bunch of vapid, self-righteous assholes that brought about their own downfall, and tried to make the force into something that was a little less fascist than something that was passed down by genetics.

I would say "come at me," but arguing about Star Wars anymore is a waste of time ever since Rise of the Skywalker retroactively ruined even my enjoyment of the sequel films.
 
2 days ago  

MattytheMouse: gameshowhost: pxlboy: gameshowhost: pxlboy: Yeah, and where will those millions go? I get the impression that a bunch of mayors, governors, and congress critters are about to find out.

Sure, they'll mostly be from populated areas. That vote blue. They have blue mayors and congresscritters, and tend to have blue gubnahs.  So it's a nice setup to try to blame blue areas for the inevitable disaster of Trump' own creation.

/underestimating the absolute depths to which trump mcconnell will go is not a good idea

I hadn't thought of it from that angle.

I can think like the Sith since I used to be a Reagan acolyte during my stupid youth, but am 100% Jedi.  The shiat that occurs to me is pretty awful. ( ._.)

I hate to break it to you, but the Jedi were pretty awful too.

Hot take: The Last Jedi was my second favorite Star Wars movie precisely because it spells out that the Jedi were a bunch of vapid, self-righteous assholes that brought about their own downfall, and tried to make the force into something that was a little less fascist than something that was passed down by genetics.

I would say "come at me," but arguing about Star Wars anymore is a waste of time ever since Rise of the Skywalker retroactively ruined even my enjoyment of the sequel films.


Well, at least Darth Vader killed those kids.

Good storytelling, that is.
 
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