Skip to content
Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Inside EVs)   Tesla Model 3 driver crashes while fiddling with touchscreen to adjust wipers. German court finds him liable for using "an electronic device" while driving, fines him €200 and suspends his license. He should've just used the signal stalk... oh, wait   (insideevs.com) divider line
    More: Awkward, Automobile, Tesla Model, Wipers, Vehicle, Tesla vehicle, first lawsuit, motor vehicle driver, Vehicles  
•       •       •

2538 clicks; posted to Main » on 31 Jul 2020 at 11:37 PM (2 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



110 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2 days ago  
But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver
 
2 days ago  
Needs voice activation controls.
 
2 days ago  

dodecahedron: Needs voice activation controls.


I need 2 controls beyond the wheel and pedals while driving: a turn signal, and a cabin recirculate button.  And that's it.  Everyone on board is far too terrified to use any of the many other features the car offers.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2 days ago  
I hate touchscreens in cars for critical functions.  I can control everything in my '95 Impala SS by touch.  Don't have to take my eyes off the road to do anything.
 
2 days ago  
Good. If you don't know how to work the wipers on a car before it starts raining, you've failed at basic safety in the first place. If your car requires use of a touchscreen for controlling wipers, it, too, has also failed at basic safety.
 
2 days ago  
1.  There is voice activation for wipers on the Model 3.
2.  There is a wiper/washer button on the turn signal stalk.
 
2 days ago  
You think cars would just have some kind of rain sensor. Considering what cars already do. Hum?
 
2 days ago  
I'm a big fan of tactile controls, standardized placement, and the archaic but useful placement of the high beam switch on the floor.
 
2 days ago  
Infotainment systems need to die.
 
2 days ago  

waxbeans: You think cars would just have some kind of rain sensor. Considering what cars already do. Hum?


I have one. They absolutely do. Although it can get a little overzealous. There's also a control for it on the stalk. This guy was just an idiot.
 
2 days ago  

dodecahedron: Needs voice activation controls.


No.  Buttons and switches and knobs.

I like Teslas except for the stupid smartphone paradigm.  Touchscreens are mostly a way to be very cheap, not very good.
 
2 days ago  

TWX: I hate touchscreens in cars for critical functions.  I can control everything in my '95 Impala SS by touch.  Don't have to take my eyes off the road to do anything.


Rode shotgun on a Tesla X the other day. Awesome acceleration, great ride, huge windows make it feel like a helicopter, but that damn iPad in the middle console really turned me off it. Everything needs to be manageable by touch, dammit! It's a farking car, don't make me take my eyes off the road.
 
2 days ago  
How come there isn't something like this on the steering wheel?

assets.logitech.comView Full Size
 
2 days ago  
I drive a 2015 Outback...for some reason they made the clock and outside temp tiny, low on the display panel, and surrounded with reflective chrome that causes glare.  So to actually read these things involves some real attention away from the road.  I'm actually surprised it hasn't been implicated in accidents by now and recalled.
 
2 days ago  

gameshowhost: But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver


Not sure how laws make Musk an idiot. Musk makes Ol' Musky a dingleberry.

People have been questioning how smart cars apply to traffic laws since the Tesla was released. Seems no different than the "inattentive driving" fine you can get for adjusting the radio volume button in a normal car. Or using your phone. Or sneezing.
 
2 days ago  

Transplanted Eskimo: waxbeans: You think cars would just have some kind of rain sensor. Considering what cars already do. Hum?

I have one. They absolutely do. Although it can get a little overzealous. There's also a control for it on the stalk. This guy was just an idiot.


Oh. Cool.
Because thinking Jesus Christ they already parked themselves the cars I mean
 
2 days ago  
nothing you need to use while driving a car should require sight at all.  not for a second.  there should never be a mandatory reason to take your eyes off the road to control your car.  every necessary control should be easily accessible and fully identifiable by position and touch.

if you CHOOSE to crash b/c you're farking about with the mp3 player thats on you.
if you plow into the car in front of you b/c your choice was head down in the box to adjust wipers, or blinded by rain thats a massive design problem.

but thats also not a real thing here.  there WAS a way to control that option without taking eyes off road.  this guy either just didn't educate himself on it or chose not to use it.
 
2 days ago  

Mister Peejay: dodecahedron: Needs voice activation controls.


No.  Buttons and switches and knobs.


Porque no los dos?
 
2 days ago  
I'll stick with my 2001 Mustang for now.  You turn its headlights on by pulling on a switch to the left of the steering wheel.  It's rather old school.

/would like a newer car but I'll keep driving this one till the wheels fall off.
 
2 days ago  

Harry_Seldon: How come there isn't something like this on the steering wheel?

[assets.logitech.com image 800x687]


I'm surprised something like that ISN'T the steering wheel.
 
2 days ago  

Uzzah: 1.  There is voice activation for wipers on the Model 3.
2.  There is a wiper/washer button on the turn signal stalk.


don't interrupt a good hate-fest.
 
2 days ago  
If I need to look at it to use it, it's a distraction from driving and should be banned.
 
2 days ago  

Uzzah: 1.  There is voice activation for wipers on the Model 3.
2.  There is a wiper/washer button on the turn signal stalk.


1. The question wasn't turning on/off, but adjusting them.
2. The question wasn't turning on/off, but adjusting them.

3. If it could be done completely by voice/stalk, it shouldn't have been settable on the touch screen.
4. Elon Musk won't suck your dick not matter how much you defend him.
 
2 days ago  

Uzzah: 1.  There is voice activation for wipers on the Model 3.
2.  There is a wiper/washer button on the turn signal stalk.


And you can set the wipers to work automatically. The software is pretty good.
 
2 days ago  
On Tesla's defense, that could probably be overcome if the Model 3 had the automatic mode for the wipers on or if the driver used the voice command to adjust the speed - you can even active farts sound with it.

TIL Tesla has a fart mode.
Tesla Model 3 FART SOUNDS!
Youtube VdKpllZVSgY
 
2 days ago  

The Irresponsible Captain: I'm a big fan of tactile controls, standardized placement, and the archaic but useful placement of the high beam switch on the floor.


The high beam switch on the floor works great until you're in the middle of shifting, left foot on the clutch, just as somebody comes over the hill and you need to dim the headlights.  Gets a bit tricky in that moment.
 
2 days ago  
Sorry, I don't care how good the software is.

I want touch controls that I know by instinct where they are.  My eyes do not leave the road.  I tend to annoy people in the car with me because I never look at them *if* we are speaking...  and to be honest, I only pay half attention to them.

A touchscreen demands visual attention, which at 90kph+... is a bad farking idea.
 
2 days ago  

Harry_Seldon: How come there isn't something like this on the steering wheel?

Fark user imageView Full Size


Funny you should mention that. Computer mouse is a 56 years old invention that just doesn't want to go away...
 
2 days ago  

gameshowhost: But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver


Musk's belief that allowing poor people the ability to live with dignity is bad for society is why I won't ever buy a Tesla.

It's a damn shame there aren't more options out there right now for that particular market.
 
2 days ago  

The Irresponsible Captain: I'm a big fan of tactile controls, standardized placement, and the archaic but useful placement of the high beam switch on the floor.


God I miss that.
 
2 days ago  

waxbeans: Transplanted Eskimo: waxbeans: You think cars would just have some kind of rain sensor. Considering what cars already do. Hum?

I have one. They absolutely do. Although it can get a little overzealous. There's also a control for it on the stalk. This guy was just an idiot.

Oh. Cool.
Because thinking Jesus Christ they already parked themselves the cars I mean


Haha yeah, although at least mine is still really bad at navigating a parking lot. The rain sensor drives my wife nuts when it's just drizzling out but other than that it's really solid. I don't mind it.
/not a musk fan boy
//I bought it because the acceleration liquified my kidneys on the test drive.
///always 3
 
2 days ago  

awruk!: Harry_Seldon: How come there isn't something like this on the steering wheel?

[Fark user image 311x266]

Funny you should mention that. Computer mouse is a 56 years old invention that just doesn't want to go away...


It will last forever thanks to Douglas Engelbart showing how easily he could use it to headshot n00bs at his famous demonstration in 1968.
 
2 days ago  

Uzzah: 1.  There is voice activation for wipers on the Model 3.
2.  There is a wiper/washer button on the turn signal stalk.


I would not be surprised if the voice recognition controls on this car were not working very well for the speaker of German because the voice recognition engine was developed and mostly tested in US...

While the little problems with voice recognition on your phone are not a big deal, when you try to operate your car you can't have "Sorry, I didn't get that, please say it again".
 
2 days ago  
My XBox One controller has fewer buttons than my cars steering wheel.
 
2 days ago  

TWX: I hate touchscreens in cars for critical functions.  I can control everything in my '95 Impala SS by touch.  Don't have to take my eyes off the road to do anything.


You mean by feel.
 
2 days ago  
Seems to me it boils down to "You still have to pay attention to your driving".  If you take your eyes off the road too long and you crash, you're in the wrong.  Slow down, pull over, or limit yourself to brief glances at it.  Just like how people have operated radios in cars for the last 100 years.  People crashed while playing with the stereo.  They were still held responsible for it, not the car maker.
 
2 days ago  
The wiper speed control doesn't follow the standard style, and there are some cases that require interacting with the UI.

More here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/ja​lopnik.​com/we-have-to-talk-about-the-tesla-mo​del-3s-windshield-wip-1819439449/amp
 
2 days ago  

AppleOptionEsc: gameshowhost: But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver

Not sure how laws make Musk an idiot. Musk makes Ol' Musky a dingleberry.

People have been questioning how smart cars apply to traffic laws since the Tesla was released. Seems no different than the "inattentive driving" fine you can get for adjusting the radio volume button in a normal car. Or using your phone. Or sneezing.


Fark user imageView Full Size


Or being a cop.
 
2 days ago  
Being a Tesla, surely there's a voice command option?
 
2 days ago  

Danger Avoid Death: AppleOptionEsc: gameshowhost: But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver

Not sure how laws make Musk an idiot. Musk makes Ol' Musky a dingleberry.

People have been questioning how smart cars apply to traffic laws since the Tesla was released. Seems no different than the "inattentive driving" fine you can get for adjusting the radio volume button in a normal car. Or using your phone. Or sneezing.

[Fark user image image 850x566]

Or being a cop.


I am above the law.gif.


For real, they are allowed to be inattentive driver. It is another sweet perk of being a ACAB.
 
2 days ago  

Murkanen: gameshowhost: But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver

Musk's belief that allowing poor people the ability to live with dignity is bad for society is why I won't ever buy a Tesla.

It's a damn shame there aren't more options out there right now for that particular market.


Let's be honest, if you determined your purchases based on a CEO's personal belief on the issue of society and the poor, you would be making very, very few purchases
 
2 days ago  

Danger Avoid Death: AppleOptionEsc: gameshowhost: But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver

Not sure how laws make Musk an idiot. Musk makes Ol' Musky a dingleberry.

People have been questioning how smart cars apply to traffic laws since the Tesla was released. Seems no different than the "inattentive driving" fine you can get for adjusting the radio volume button in a normal car. Or using your phone. Or sneezing.

[Fark user image image 850x566]

Or being a cop.


You try ordering a gross of donuts on a phone app.
 
2 days ago  
I will never buy a Tesla because of their reliance on the touch screen. I get that they love doing software updates to it, but that doesn't mean every single control has to be there.

For entertainment, the best feature a touch-screen could have is picking which part of the song to play, like you can easily do with Youtube. Just point to the timeline to skip ahead or replay part of a long track. But do any in-car entertainment systems have this obvious feature? Mine sure doesn't. Idiots.

Plus these screens probably ruin long-term durability potential. A smart phone only lasts 2-3 years, how long are these car screens going to last? Before they break, before the software is no longer supported, before the hardware is no longer available as replacement parts, so when the screen dies the entire car dies with it.
 
2 days ago  

Transplanted Eskimo: Haha yeah, although at least mine is still really bad at navigating a parking lot. The rain sensor drives my wife nuts when it's just drizzling out but other than that it's really solid. I don't mind it.
/not a musk fan boy
//I bought it because the acceleration liquified my kidneys on the test drive.
///always 3


😎😁🤛
 
2 days ago  
The intermittent wiper thing was not put on many cars because of a patent dispute over the cheap circuit to make it work on the standard motors.  The feature didn't hit most cars until the patent expired over two $0.01 resistors or something that trivial.

Many cars will set the speed now by moving the stalk to the intermittent position, back to off, then back on and it will use the time that it was off for the timing.
 
2 days ago  
I admit, I thought all those things about the Model 3 touchscreen.  That it would be a distraction, that the lack of buttons would be a problem when you couldn't feel for a control.  Once I finally got one, it turned out to be a complete non-issue.   The driver in question is just a dumbass.
 
2 days ago  

AppleOptionEsc: gameshowhost: But I've been repeatedly assured that Elon Musk is an infallible genius.

/re: the ticket? GOOD.jpg
//maybe the dipshiat will pay attention and learn something now
///no i mean elon, not the driver

Not sure how laws make Musk an idiot. Musk makes Ol' Musky a dingleberry.

People have been questioning how smart cars apply to traffic laws since the Tesla was released. Seems no different than the "inattentive driving" fine you can get for adjusting the radio volume button in a normal car. Or using your phone. Or sneezing.


Jesus. What kind of sneezing is happening over there?
 
2 days ago  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Seems to me it boils down to "You still have to pay attention to your driving".  If you take your eyes off the road too long and you crash, you're in the wrong.  Slow down, pull over, or limit yourself to brief glances at it.  Just like how people have operated radios in cars for the last 100 years.  People crashed while playing with the stereo.  They were still held responsible for it, not the car maker.


Then car makers smartened up and added controls, appropriately, on the steering wheel once that became technologically available.

How we could be going backwards re: essential automobile controls at this point is beyond me.  Moving controls from the ergonomic-n-safe place for the sake of Elon being able to rub himself silly to techbroism .. was just moronic.

He's not the ubersmart guy people want to think he is. He *hires* them and occasionally overrides them with dumbness.

/though i'm sure musk would deny being behind the dumbness and blame it on unions or pedophilia
 
2 days ago  

philodough: Being a Tesla, surely there's a voice command option?


Voice control of anything takes too much mental energy to deal with. Consider the tasks it requires: Forming the sentence, saying the command, checking to see if the command took effect, retrying if it didn't... all to change a wiper mode that needs to change RIGHT NOW while you're dealing with the massive splash from that semi. That's nearly as bad as a touchscreen.

Whereas in your Corrolla (or your Porsche, for that matter) it's one touch of the stalk control to do that. No guesswork, no looking or thinking, your brain is focused where it should be: on the driving task, not on the commanding-the-car-computer task.

Plus, that damn big-ass screen is bright, affecting your night vision. It's fugly too: the Model 3 dash with its gigantic screen sticking out looks like a soulless open-office workstation.

I don't know about you, but when I'm driving, I want to drive, not play with a computer, let alone be reminded of the desk I left behind. My drive is a refuge from all that.
 
2 days ago  

X-Geek: On Tesla's defense, that could probably be overcome if the Model 3 had the automatic mode for the wipers on or if the driver used the voice command to adjust the speed - you can even active farts sound with it.


I'd be more impressed if you could activated it with farts. I can imagine some kind of morse code, two long farts and a moist one to turn on the car and it learns the tones of your particular sphincter like some software does with voices.
 
Displayed 50 of 110 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter



X
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.