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(Fire Rescue 1)   Volunteer firefighters - who look more like the board of a bad HOA - "resign" after city doesn't want them running calls that all but two aren't qualified to run in the first place   (firerescue1.com) divider line
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2020-07-29 11:23:14 PM  
23 votes:
in the 70's and 80's, one of my uncles was in the civil defense and a volunteer firefighter. He kept his First Aid and CPR certifications up-to-date. He was trained to use a jaws-of-life-device and a fireman's hose - which is harder to handle than you might think.  A kind of rescue van was parked in front of his house. It had a siren, but no rear seats. Instead, it had shelves screwed to the sides to hold medical supplies.

My uncle would get a call on his radio and shout to all the kids in the vicinity "C'mon, if you wanna see the action!" We'd sprint to pile in the back. I remember sitting on the floor in the back of the van with siblings, cousins, and neighbor kids, sliding from one side of the van to the other, with spare bandages and other medical supplies spilling out of their containers, as my uncle careened through town with us in the back.  We saw fires and vehicle crashes and more.

That sort of thing is not allowed anymore. Transporting a gaggle of children at high speeds, unrestrained by any seat belt or other safety device, to witness fire, blood, mayhem, and death is deemed unsafe. Tsk, tsk, nanny state, tsk, tsk.
 
2020-07-29 11:25:21 PM  
18 votes:
Fire Academy 4: Citizens on Patrol
 
2020-07-29 11:14:21 PM  
14 votes:
Hood stated, according to KFDM.

Did anyone else here misread that the same way I did?
 
2020-07-29 11:12:32 PM  
13 votes:
Yeah, I mean why do we need volunteers when we could spend money instead? Meanwhile, the same folks are pushing to get police defunded... Can you say "cognitive dissonance"?
 
2020-07-29 11:45:50 PM  
10 votes:
My ex BIL was a volunteer firefighter. Made it all the way up to some sort of officer, 2nd or 3rd in command of his unit. Until one day while burning leaves in his back yard, he started a brush fire that torched over 300 acres. If it had been anywhere other than Podunk, Arkansas, I'm sure he would have made Fark, with a gleeful IRONIC tag chortling in the background.
 
2020-07-29 11:33:17 PM  
10 votes:
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In Japan, the volunteer firefighters are mostly teenagers, and also have a Priestess and a Sword user on duty at all times.
 
2020-07-29 11:16:11 PM  
6 votes:
Tax cuts baby. They killed standing fire service, and now they're killing volunteer fire service.

But hey...billionaire's money is safe! So it's worth it!
 
2020-07-29 11:10:00 PM  
5 votes:
"We refuse to do less work, so we quit."

What am I missing?
 
2020-07-30 2:06:48 AM  
3 votes:

chitownmike: skyotter: "We refuse to do less work, so we quit."

What am I missing?

Nothing, they are that stupid


They didn't sign up to do nothing. Remember, they're volunteers - they want to be involved.

Bruscar: in the 70's and 80's, one of my uncles was in the civil defense and a volunteer firefighter. He kept his First Aid and CPR certifications up-to-date. He was trained to use a jaws-of-life-device and a fireman's hose - which is harder to handle than you might think.  A kind of rescue van was parked in front of his house. It had a siren, but no rear seats. Instead, it had shelves screwed to the sides to hold medical supplies.

My uncle would get a call on his radio and shout to all the kids in the vicinity "C'mon, if you wanna see the action!" We'd sprint to pile in the back. I remember sitting on the floor in the back of the van with siblings, cousins, and neighbor kids, sliding from one side of the van to the other, with spare bandages and other medical supplies spilling out of their containers, as my uncle careened through town with us in the back.  We saw fires and vehicle crashes and more.

That sort of thing is not allowed anymore. Transporting a gaggle of children at high speeds, unrestrained by any seat belt or other safety device, to witness fire, blood, mayhem, and death is deemed unsafe. Tsk, tsk, nanny state, tsk, tsk.


That sounds awesome! I grew up in a town with a volunteer fire department and some people would take their kids on calls; they then grew up to be first responders of various types as well. It's an all-professional department now. I know one guy who was a volunteer firefighter and his kid was an EMT for a while before becoming a sheriff's deputy...so he definitely has some useful background there.


hawaiijenno: Good.  Go play fireman in your yard where you won't put someone in jeopardy with your ignorance. I'm not an engineer so I don't demand to volunteer to build bridges.  They aren't medically trained so why the hell would they think they have the "right" to respond to medical emergencies?


Have you ever lived in a small town?

haknudsen: Iniamyen: Yeah, I mean why do we need volunteers when we could spend money instead? Meanwhile, the same folks are pushing to get police defunded... Can you say "cognitive dissonance"?

because the volunteers are not qualified.
Can you say, "ignorant"


Ignorance?

SumoJeb: Just what I want when in a medical emergency. A fat fark volunteer firefighter with minimal applicable skills.
Bonus if they show up on scene with alcohol on their breath.


The last three comments are highly indicative of the loss of community involvement in the West. We've become a civilization of convenience consumers, both in the retail and the municipal sense. We pay taxes and expect that someone who works for the city or county will handle things for us. There's little obligation on the part of people to actually get involved in maintaining the places that we live in. We might attend a community meeting if it's something that directly affects us, but we won't seriously go out of our way to help our fellow citizens. We don't want to make serious, binding commitments.

Volunteering for the fire department is apparently seen now as a hokey, corny thing done by overall-wearing hayseeds, rather than a selfless act which requires hundreds of hours of one's time a year.  Hopefully some of you get out and pick up trash in front of your neighbors' yards, mow the grass out there or maybe participate in some kind of local volunteer effort. It would be pretty sad to imagine everyone just sitting on their asses. Maybe that's why this country seems so divided lately.
 
2020-07-30 12:08:12 AM  
3 votes:

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Tax cuts baby. They killed standing fire service, and now they're killing volunteer fire service.

But hey...billionaire's money is safe! So it's worth it!


More likely the city pols are getting kickbacks from the for-profit ambulance service.  I saw that happen in a Democrat run area where I live.  City fired the FD-run ambulance service.  Private service took over.  Result were prices tripled and all of sudden ambulances were being used for EVERYTHING.  Including strapping people in who weren't seriously ill and didn't want to take an ambulance and being used more for a taxi service.  Hey!  Medicare/medicaid is paying for it so it doesn't cost anything!  Rolls eyes.
 
2020-07-29 11:46:54 PM  
3 votes:

Bruscar: Apparently, I'm the only person in this thread who had a childhood.

Some folks here need some happy-happy, joy-joy pills.


I can't see who you're responding to, but I remember the time 17 boy scouts crammed into a car and drove around for a while, and the adults all thought it was hilarious.
 
2020-07-29 11:35:31 PM  
3 votes:
They also have a handgun expert and some sort of crazy guy as well, apparently.
 
2020-07-30 12:42:12 AM  
2 votes:

Jz4p: I've been wondering for a while why fire and ambulance are responding to each medical call.  I remember it being implemented about 10 years ago, and parts of the reasoning make sense:

The first to arrive can provide life saving help.

In my town, though, I usually see the fire truck and the ambulance racing down the street 10 seconds apart from each other. 60% of calls seem to stop at care homes for the elderly, I suspect when it's already too late.

This doesn't mean it's a bad idea, just that I don't understand it.

/The one time I reported a medical emergency by calling 911, the police showed up and lectured a teen who had memory loss after a solo skateboarding accident that it was illegal in the area.
//The order of arrival was: Ambulance, Police, Fire.  This was right at the edge of the fire department's effective area, though.


Well, around here the cops show up to make sure there's nothing they can arrest you for before fire shows up.

If they decide that heart attack is really just drugs, good luck not dying in jail.
 
2020-07-29 11:39:36 PM  
2 votes:
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2020-07-29 11:35:07 PM  
2 votes:
Just what I want when in a medical emergency. A fat fark volunteer firefighter with minimal applicable skills.
Bonus if they show up on scene with alcohol on their breath.
 
2020-07-29 11:26:07 PM  
2 votes:
Cartman - Screw You Guys I'm Going Home
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2020-07-29 11:18:13 PM  
2 votes:
Good.  Go play fireman in your yard where you won't put someone in jeopardy with your ignorance. I'm not an engineer so I don't demand to volunteer to build bridges.  They aren't medically trained so why the hell would they think they have the "right" to respond to medical emergencies?
 
2020-07-29 11:13:06 PM  
2 votes:
Nothing against their volunteering, but only about 4 of them look like they can pass a physical putting themselves and others in danger in the event of a structure fire.
 
2020-07-30 2:57:10 AM  
1 vote:
I see they got new work as volunteer gravy tasters at the Municipal Chicken Fried Steak Warehouse.
 
2020-07-30 2:31:17 AM  
1 vote:

NEDM: khatores: Volunteering for the fire department is apparently seen now as a hokey, corny thing done by overall-wearing hayseeds, rather than a selfless act which requires hundreds of hours of one's time a year. Hopefully some of you get out and pick up trash in front of your neighbors' yards, mow the grass out there or maybe participate in some kind of local volunteer effort. It would be pretty sad to imagine everyone just sitting on their asses. Maybe that's why this country seems so divided lately.

Nobody is shiatting on them for being volunteer firefighters.  That's an honorable and selfless service to their community.

They're being shat on for not being farking certified for medical calls and still showing up, then for them resigning en-masse leaving their community without a local fire department in a temper tantrum because the city told them to stop answering calls they weren't certified to do!


Maybe the town should pay for their certification and training so that they could make more of a contribution.

It sounds like we're getting something far from the full story here...as many in this thread have pointed out, undoubtedly they provide some additional support services during calls - for example, blocking off roads, making it easier to get patients out of a residence, calming people down and that sort of thing. Particularly now, firefighters can have a presence as a first responder that police might not be able to. People tend to find police intimidating, whereas firefighters are reassuring, even if they're yokels.

If you've ever been to a call like that, the patient often is overweight and immobile, so getting them out of the house can be a challenge. There's usually one or more family members losing their mind while the EMTs are working. If someone doesn't calm them the fark down, then it's going to turn into a second call.
 
2020-07-30 2:15:28 AM  
1 vote:

khatores: Volunteering for the fire department is apparently seen now as a hokey, corny thing done by overall-wearing hayseeds, rather than a selfless act which requires hundreds of hours of one's time a year. Hopefully some of you get out and pick up trash in front of your neighbors' yards, mow the grass out there or maybe participate in some kind of local volunteer effort. It would be pretty sad to imagine everyone just sitting on their asses. Maybe that's why this country seems so divided lately.


Nobody is shiatting on them for being volunteer firefighters.  That's an honorable and selfless service to their community.

They're being shat on for not being farking certified for medical calls and still showing up, then for them resigning en-masse leaving their community without a local fire department in a temper tantrum because the city told them to stop answering calls they weren't certified to do!
 
2020-07-30 2:12:05 AM  
1 vote:

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Tax cuts baby. They killed standing fire service, and now they're killing volunteer fire service.

But hey...billionaire's money is safe! So it's worth it!


A: there are no billionaires in a 2000-population town in deep East Texas.
B: a 2000-pop town in the vicinity of *Orange* was never big enough to have a standing fire service in the first place.  They would have always been a volunteer service.
C: the volunteer fire service wasn't killed, it committed suicide because it got butthurt that the city noticed that they weren't certified for the ambulance calls that they were going out on (and getting there after the contracted ambulance service anyways, so they were wasting everyone's time and money)
 
2020-07-30 1:50:34 AM  
1 vote:

Iniamyen: Yeah, I mean why do we need volunteers when we could spend money instead? Meanwhile, the same folks are pushing to get police defunded... Can you say "cognitive dissonance"?


Can you say "moron does not know what defunding the police means"?
 
2020-07-30 12:36:55 AM  
1 vote:

MSBFDffpm: gar1013: Jz4p: I've been wondering for a while why fire and ambulance are responding to each medical call.  I remember it being implemented about 10 years ago, and parts of the reasoning make sense:

The first to arrive can provide life saving help.

In my town, though, I usually see the fire truck and the ambulance racing down the street 10 seconds apart from each other. 60% of calls seem to stop at care homes for the elderly, I suspect when it's already too late.

This doesn't mean it's a bad idea, just that I don't understand it.

/The one time I reported a medical emergency by calling 911, the police showed up and lectured a teen who had memory loss after a solo skateboarding accident that it was illegal in the area.
//The order of arrival was: Ambulance, Police, Fire.  This was right at the edge of the fire department's effective area, though.

The one time that I had to call 911 for a medical emergency the police showed up, followed by firefighters, followed by ambulance.

I am so thankful that our E911 "Call-takers" are well-versed in Triage.  No offense to "cops", but unless we need you for traffic control, or securing our potential scene, please just stay out of it and let us do our job, Thank You!


In this case, the cop showed up a few minutes before the firefighters, and frankly what he did or didn't do was all a blur - I think he had an oxygen tank and mask in his trunk.

At the time, I was a teenager and my mom was in the middle of having a heart attack - any and all help was greatly appreciated, and she made a full recovery.

I'm actually fortunate to have a firefighter living a few doors down from me these days. Probably one of the most polite and sincere people I have ever met.
 
2020-07-30 12:25:46 AM  
1 vote:

gar1013: Jz4p: I've been wondering for a while why fire and ambulance are responding to each medical call.  I remember it being implemented about 10 years ago, and parts of the reasoning make sense:

The first to arrive can provide life saving help.

In my town, though, I usually see the fire truck and the ambulance racing down the street 10 seconds apart from each other. 60% of calls seem to stop at care homes for the elderly, I suspect when it's already too late.

This doesn't mean it's a bad idea, just that I don't understand it.

/The one time I reported a medical emergency by calling 911, the police showed up and lectured a teen who had memory loss after a solo skateboarding accident that it was illegal in the area.
//The order of arrival was: Ambulance, Police, Fire.  This was right at the edge of the fire department's effective area, though.

The one time that I had to call 911 for a medical emergency the police showed up, followed by firefighters, followed by ambulance.


I am so thankful that our E911 "Call-takers" are well-versed in Triage.  No offense to "cops", but unless we need you for traffic control, or securing our potential scene, please just stay out of it and let us do our job, Thank You!
 
2020-07-30 12:17:51 AM  
1 vote:

hawaiijenno: Good.  Go play fireman in your yard where you won't put someone in jeopardy with your ignorance. I'm not an engineer so I don't demand to volunteer to build bridges.  They aren't medically trained so why the hell would they think they have the "right" to respond to medical emergencies?


Try living in rural, unincorporated areas. The ambulances will be lucky to find your address, let alone your body. The VFDs do very much serve a purpose out in the sticks when everyone else is over an hour away from the next city. And they can very much be appropriately trained. At least that much should be expected of them.
 
2020-07-30 12:13:50 AM  
1 vote:

Jz4p: I've been wondering for a while why fire and ambulance are responding to each medical call.  I remember it being implemented about 10 years ago, and parts of the reasoning make sense:

The first to arrive can provide life saving help.

In my town, though, I usually see the fire truck and the ambulance racing down the street 10 seconds apart from each other. 60% of calls seem to stop at care homes for the elderly, I suspect when it's already too late.

This doesn't mean it's a bad idea, just that I don't understand it.

/The one time I reported a medical emergency by calling 911, the police showed up and lectured a teen who had memory loss after a solo skateboarding accident that it was illegal in the area.
//The order of arrival was: Ambulance, Police, Fire.  This was right at the edge of the fire department's effective area, though.


The one time that I had to call 911 for a medical emergency the police showed up, followed by firefighters, followed by ambulance.
 
2020-07-29 11:42:33 PM  
1 vote:
They got matching t shirts rather quickly though.
 
2020-07-29 11:34:59 PM  
1 vote:

Iniamyen: Yeah, I mean why do we need volunteers when we could spend money instead? Meanwhile, the same folks are pushing to get police defunded... Can you say "cognitive dissonance"?


because the volunteers are not qualified.
Can you say, "ignorant"
 
2020-07-29 11:26:04 PM  
1 vote:
Apparently, I'm the only person in this thread who had a childhood.

Some folks here need some happy-happy, joy-joy pills.
 
2020-07-29 11:24:25 PM  
1 vote:
Pinehurst, Texas. Population, 2000 and change.

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"If you've got no Pinehurst...You've got no Texas."
 
2020-07-29 11:23:14 PM  
1 vote:
A rural area with meth heads on the team with maga hats and automatic rifles no doubt.
 
2020-07-29 11:17:56 PM  
1 vote:
And nothing of value was lost.
 
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