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(Nature)   Scientists say all forests on Earth will be clear cut within 100-200 years. The good news is, civilization will collapse in only 20-40 years, so the trees should be safe   (nature.com) divider line
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2020-07-29 10:28:58 AM  
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2020-07-29 10:41:02 AM  
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2020-07-29 10:50:58 AM  
i have known this for years. that's why i party like every day is my last.
 
2020-07-29 10:55:36 AM  
Gee, I wonder why.

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2020-07-29 11:18:48 AM  
Scientists say all forests on Earth will be clear cut within 100-200 years.

With a better work ethic it can be done sooner.
 
2020-07-29 11:23:41 AM  
Am I the only one who thinks this is a good idea?

I know many of you think we need trees around in case we get chased by a bear but guess what idiot those farkers can climb trees. Get rid of them and grow up.
 
2020-07-29 11:24:09 AM  
how can this be when my search engine plants 28gabrillion trees a year paid for by my super valuable searches?
 
2020-07-29 11:25:03 AM  
Chatter on the Wood Wide Web is frightening, the trees will be fighting back any day now.  Some rogue trees took out a power line inspection helicopter in NorCal about a month ago.

Cool book if you have nothing else to do or are just a curious person.
 
2020-07-29 11:27:30 AM  
Stop producing crotch fruit.
 
2020-07-29 11:27:49 AM  

MrBallou: Gee, I wonder why.

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Population in red, space for them to live in blue.


But the foetuses!  Foeiti.  Feti.  The babies!
 
2020-07-29 11:27:56 AM  

MrBallou: Gee, I wonder why.

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Population in red, space for them to live in blue.


Queue some idiot spewing "well you can fit everyone on earth on Ireland so there" or some such BS.
 
2020-07-29 11:28:06 AM  

great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.


They are:
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2020-07-29 11:29:04 AM  

Rapmaster2000: great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.

They are:
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It's a start.
 
2020-07-29 11:29:32 AM  
Wait until the fungi and the trees realize their common purpose, and common enemy.  There are more kinds of fungi than stars on a summer night.  Bacteria and virus are just the appetizer when it comes to the menu of infections.
 
2020-07-29 11:29:42 AM  
There's a nut in my office who always counters with "trees are a renewable resource"  every time it gets pointed out that clearcutting is bad forest management.
 
2020-07-29 11:29:51 AM  
Oh I bet it will be sooner than that. Most tree growing areas have been logged 2-3 times in the last 200 years. Somehow we still have lots of trees.
 
2020-07-29 11:30:07 AM  
I've seen that show.

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Everything will be fine.

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2020-07-29 11:30:50 AM  
The look on the guys face that cuts down the last tree when he it dawns on him he's out of a job.
 
2020-07-29 11:30:57 AM  

Rapmaster2000: great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.

They are:
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Europe and North America are the two locations that have a net loss for child birth as of late. All other areas are producing on average over two children per woman.
 
2020-07-29 11:30:58 AM  
I have met quite a few scientists in the past 60 years.
Most of them are shaking their head as we read stories like this.
Nearly none of them deal exclusively in if/then statements without constant update and review (flow chart) thinking.

Relax.
 
2020-07-29 11:32:35 AM  

great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.


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2020-07-29 11:32:59 AM  
We conquered the magic, we counted the stars
Deciphered the clockwork, enacted this farce
Devoured by shadows, we cling to the light
Deluded by wisdom, the bringer of night,Now and for always, a perpetual rise
A followed illusion,Your zenith fades into eternity
 
2020-07-29 11:34:12 AM  

great_tigers: Rapmaster2000: great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.

They are:
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Europe and North America are the two locations that have a net loss for child birth as of late. All other areas are producing on average over two children per woman.


And the trend line is?
 
2020-07-29 11:35:06 AM  
well they seemed to leave out a very important part of the equation of "what is the sum total lost" when arriving at the 2.3 million square kilometers number.
 
2020-07-29 11:35:53 AM  
I hope they dont use all the trees to make paper for rich people to send old timey letters back and forth congratulating each other on getting their teenage androids pregnant. I think they should save a little to make wooden guns so that way when aliens come to enslave humanity we can say "Hey I guess youll be wanting our guns before you put us in your zoo or whatever" and when they try to shoot one of us to show they mean business we can all have a good laugh together.
 
2020-07-29 11:36:52 AM  

1funguy: I have met quite a few scientists in the past 60 years.
Most of them are shaking their head as we read stories like this.
Nearly none of them deal exclusively in if/then statements without constant update and review (flow chart) thinking.

Relax.


Cool story, Flat Earther.
 
2020-07-29 11:37:09 AM  

BitwiseShift: Wait until the fungi and the trees realize their common purpose, and common enemy.  There are more kinds of fungi than stars on a summer night.  Bacteria and virus are just the appetizer when it comes to the menu of infections.


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2020-07-29 11:37:51 AM  

Evil Mackerel: great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.

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We could drastically reduce the population and our over-consumption would still be the problem, not more people doing it.
 
2020-07-29 11:38:30 AM  

maxandgrinch: Chatter on the Wood Wide Web is frightening, the trees will be fighting back any day now.  Some rogue trees took out a power line inspection helicopter in NorCal about a month ago.

Cool book if you have nothing else to do or are just a curious person.


Thanks for the suggestion, I just ordered a copy.
 
2020-07-29 11:39:14 AM  
I don't think it is reasonable to make sustainability argument regarding 100+ years in the future.
 
2020-07-29 11:39:27 AM  

MrBallou: Gee, I wonder why.

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Population in red, space for them to live in blue.


So you're saying the Chinese government should be applauded for their recent attempts to adjust the blue line by building islands in the ocean.
 
2020-07-29 11:39:57 AM  

maxandgrinch: Chatter on the Wood Wide Web is frightening, the trees will be fighting back any day now.  Some rogue trees took out a power line inspection helicopter in NorCal about a month ago.

Cool book if you have nothing else to do or are just a curious person.


We could sure use an intervention.   Whales and other marine mammals need to chip in, too.
 
2020-07-29 11:41:46 AM  

great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.


The preferred term is "crotch goblins." Calling them "fruit" makes them seem benign.

/of course we can't just crash world population in a single generation
//but we could in fact formulate a workable plan to have fewer people
///but that would require actual thought, and corporations losing revenue in the short term, so no chance
 
2020-07-29 11:41:52 AM  
People will be equal with hatchet, ax, and saw.
 
2020-07-29 11:42:57 AM  
Forestation minimum in the US was around 1920, at 721,000,000 acres. Population : 106,000,000

Forestation now is 766,000,000 acres. Population : 330,000,000

Call me skeptical.
 
2020-07-29 11:49:48 AM  

stuffy: The look on the guys face that cuts down the last tree when he it dawns on him he's out of a job.


He can go mine coal. I'm sure coal mining will be back and better then ever by then.
 
2020-07-29 11:50:25 AM  

MrBallou: Gee, I wonder why.

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Population in red, space for them to live in blue.


I've been assured by top people that overpopulation isn't a thing because "the entire world population can fit in Texas"
 
2020-07-29 11:52:36 AM  

IRestoreFurniture: MrBallou: Gee, I wonder why.

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Population in red, space for them to live in blue.

I've been assured by top people that overpopulation isn't a thing because "the entire world population can fit in Texas"


Hell, it'll fit in NYC if you stack it like cord wood.
 
2020-07-29 11:55:21 AM  
IRestoreFurniture:

I've been assured by top people that overpopulation isn't a thing because "the entire world population can fit in Texas"

But wouldn't that much compression turn the bottom ones into some type of human goo?
 
2020-07-29 12:01:53 PM  
Unless you are a teenager, you
probably read in your high school textbooks that these extinctions were
the result of asteroids. In fact, all but the one that killed the dinosaurs
involved climate change produced by greenhouse gas. The most notorious
was 250 million years ago; it began when carbon dioxide warmed the
planet by five degrees Celsius, accelerated when that warming triggered
the release of methane, another greenhouse gas, and ended with all but a
sliver of life on Earth dead. We are currently adding carbon to the
atmosphere at a considerably faster rate; by most estimates, at least ten
times faster. The rate is one hundred times faster than at any point in
human history before the beginning of industrialization. And there is
already, right now, fully a third more carbon in the atmosphere than at
any point in the last 800,000 years-perhaps in as long as 15 million
years. There were no humans then. The oceans were more than a
hundred feet higher.

PDF
 
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2020-07-29 12:04:49 PM  

whidbey: Evil Mackerel: great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.

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We could drastically reduce the population and our over-consumption would still be the problem, not more people doing it.


The two aren't mutually exclusive, and improving on either would help the situation.
 
2020-07-29 12:10:34 PM  
Forest in Australia tend to lose 5 to 10% of capacity with every burn or logging cycle due to dryer conditions.  The total tonnage of trees per acre is going down and has been for at least 50,000 years.
 
Juc
2020-07-29 12:14:02 PM  
around here when they cut they replant. and the tree line's going further north.

I'm not saying it's good, but the loggers want the trees to exist too, it's not really a zero sum game to look after forests.
 
2020-07-29 12:15:37 PM  

DON.MAC: Forest in Australia tend to lose 5 to 10% of capacity with every burn or logging cycle due to dryer conditions.  The total tonnage of trees per acre is going down and has been for at least 50,000 years.


I think they use the metric system in Australia
 
2020-07-29 12:25:42 PM  

DON.MAC: Forest in Australia tend to lose 5 to 10% of capacity with every burn or logging cycle due to dryer conditions.  The total tonnage of trees per acre is going down and has been for at least 50,000 years.


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2020-07-29 12:27:27 PM  

hej: whidbey: Evil Mackerel: great_tigers: Stop producing crotch fruit.

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We could drastically reduce the population and our over-consumption would still be the problem, not more people doing it.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, and improving on either would help the situation.


It really is about consumption, though.    Fewer people using too many resources isn't a solution, either.
 
2020-07-29 12:27:43 PM  
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2020-07-29 12:33:14 PM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Forestation minimum in the US was around 1920, at 721,000,000 acres. Population : 106,000,000

Forestation now is 766,000,000 acres. Population : 330,000,000

Call me skeptical.


The problem is, US forests only constitute a small fraction of all forests in the world, so the fact we are actually preserving our forests pales in comparison to the outright level of forest destruction going on in other parts of the world, like Brazil.
 
2020-07-29 12:37:16 PM  
Climate alarmist bullshiat like this does nothing to actually help or address the issue.  Likely this "model" or reporting is the ~1%>X chance of occurrence.
 
2020-07-29 12:37:54 PM  

American-Irish eyes: Climate alarmist bullshiat


ok Flat Earther.
 
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