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(The Detroit_News)   ICE is pressuring small production company to stop Netflix release of the documentary ICE authorized in 2017. "When you add it up, all of the people just doing their job, it becomes this crazy terrorizing system"   (detroitnews.com) divider line
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2020-07-26 4:04:05 PM  
The trailer for it.
Immigration Nation | Official Trailer | Netflix
Youtube X_xVKy58Yuw
 
2020-07-26 4:17:22 PM  
"How were we supposed to know that they'd actually use footage shot that would accurately portray our people in action? This is not acceptable..."
 
2020-07-26 4:20:09 PM  
I'm surprised the Chain of Command didn't kill this project real early. But that's what happens when there is no stability at the top.
 
2020-07-26 4:48:20 PM  

Another Government Employee: I'm surprised the Chain of Command didn't kill this project real early. But that's what happens when there is no stability at the top.


ICE wanted a documentary about itself. And, that is exactly what they got. If they don't like the image that they see....they should try to change it.
 
2020-07-26 5:00:09 PM  
Leftwing cancel culture is out of control!
 
2020-07-26 5:34:19 PM  
This is what the assholes did when there was a camera on them. Imagine the other shiat.
 
2020-07-26 5:46:14 PM  
The biggest complaint was about the fact that the filmmakers chose to use Barbra Streisand as the narrator, but it's likely that raising this complaint will have the effect of simply drawing even more attention to the project.
 
2020-07-26 6:55:58 PM  
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2020-07-26 6:56:53 PM  
"Just doing your job" is literally not a defense against crimes against humanity or war crimes.

"Just doing your job" is the motive for committing crimes against humanity and war crimes. if the local law says that is your job, that is not a defence in a crimes against humanity court.

These are capital crimes that can easily lead to execution, if the ICE staff go on trial at the appropriate court.

Every time an American says that "They are doing their job so that won't happen: we see another fascist outed. Fascism and fascist laws and courts are the reasons we have the crimes against humanity category.
 
2020-07-26 6:56:56 PM  

SoupGuru: This is what the assholes did when there was a camera on them. Imagine the other shiat.


Oh, some day that information is going to get out, and I suspect we all already know what happened there.
 
2020-07-26 6:59:42 PM  
My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.
 
2020-07-26 7:00:47 PM  
Meh, he had one hit and was a fraud. Straight from the 'hood my ass, about the same as straight from the trailer kid rock.

/oh the assholes terrorizing Hispanics...
//my bad
 
2020-07-26 7:04:28 PM  
ICE is less then 20 years old.

We got along before without it, we will get along without it again.
 
2020-07-26 7:07:26 PM  

runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.


Uh, the trailer linked upthread had Netflix branding all over it.  Pretty sure this is gonna be released and not a damned thing ICE can do about that.
 
2020-07-26 7:08:08 PM  
Now it extra needs to be released. I hope the people in charge of our insane immigration policies end up in prison.
 
2020-07-26 7:09:12 PM  
Obama started it and Trump is powerless to stop It. Sorry. Maga
 
2020-07-26 7:09:18 PM  

runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.


Lol.

Netflix has scheduled it for next month.
 
2020-07-26 7:09:50 PM  
Part of all that transparency he promised.  Totally normal for a law enforcement agency not to want you to see how many corpses they are creating.

It's the gestapo.
 
2020-07-26 7:10:11 PM  
The Break with Michelle Wolf | ICE IS | Netflix
Youtube dNF6sVurAuI


Increasingly appropriate, sadly.
 
2020-07-26 7:11:12 PM  

FleshMonkey: runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.

Lol.

Netflix has scheduled it for next month.


They should release it tomorrow just as an F U.
 
2020-07-26 7:12:54 PM  

runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.


Comes out August 3, so a week and a day for someone to complete the usual Trump tactic of "fail to stop publication of information that should make Trump look bad but won't change a single voters' mind while riling up the base".  I'm glad the information is coming out, but so much of this ends up filling in the details of things we knew or strongly suspected already.
 
2020-07-26 7:12:58 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: "Just doing your job following orders" is literally not a defense against crimes against humanity or war crimes.

"Just doing your job following orders" is the motive for committing crimes against humanity and war crimes. if the local law says that is your job, that is not a defence in a crimes against humanity court.

These are capital crimes that can easily lead to execution, if the ICE staff go on trial at the appropriate court.

Every time an American says that "They are doing your job following orders so that won't happen: we see another fascist outed. Fascism and fascist laws and courts are the reasons we have the crimes against humanity category.


FTFT
 
2020-07-26 7:14:04 PM  
TRUTH IS INCOMING, SIR! EVERYONE HURRR FOR YOUR LIVES! GRAVY SEALS, PREPARE ROLLING HOVERROUNDS AND LOCK AND LOAD BB PELLETS.

/HURRRRRRackphtptht
//explosion soundy things
 
2020-07-26 7:16:13 PM  

Jamesac68: runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.

Comes out August 3, so a week and a day for someone to complete the usual Trump tactic of "fail to stop publication of information that should make Trump look bad but won't change a single voters' mind while riling up the base".  I'm glad the information is coming out, but so much of this ends up filling in the details of things we knew or strongly suspected already.


Huh that's right around the same time the Netflix doc about Republican senators drops.

That's going to be a fun week on social media
 
2020-07-26 7:17:22 PM  
Similarly to 1984, Kafka's The Trial was not an instruction manual.
 
2020-07-26 7:20:51 PM  

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: ICE is less then 20 years old.

We got along before without it, we will get along without it again.


They need an all expenses paid trip to the Hague
 
2020-07-26 7:21:35 PM  

JustToLetYouKnowFriend: ICE is less then 20 years old.

We got along before without it, we will get along without it again.


Hell, for a significant chunk of our history, we were fine with open borders. Then we moved to 'Ok, we technically control the border, but if you're an illegal immigrant, as long as you don't get involved in actual crime, we'll generally look the other way, and even provide a road to citizenship.'

Then people started realizing that exposing Americans directly to foreigners and  their viewpoints posed a threat to white supremacy, and we got on the road to our current isolationist police state.
 
2020-07-26 7:21:35 PM  

Mr_Smartypants: Similarly to 1984, Kafka's The Trial was not an instruction manual.


Or Ivan denisovich
 
2020-07-26 7:24:30 PM  

runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.


Never find distribution on Netflix, who paid for it? Um ok...
 
2020-07-26 7:29:38 PM  

FarkingSmurf: runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.

Uh, the trailer linked upthread had Netflix branding all over it.  Pretty sure this is gonna be released and not a damned thing ICE can do about that.


I think we all fell into a troll hole
 
2020-07-26 7:35:23 PM  
That sounds like a good slogan.


ICE: We Create Terrorists.
 
2020-07-26 7:35:52 PM  
"I vas just followink orders!" -- Adolf Eichmann
 
2020-07-26 7:37:29 PM  
"Befehl ist Befehl". Nope. Doesn't look any better in the original German.
 
2020-07-26 7:41:39 PM  
They should've sold it to a network, to be aired on Monday, November 2.
 
2020-07-26 7:46:27 PM  

MetaDeth: FarkingSmurf: runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.

Uh, the trailer linked upthread had Netflix branding all over it.  Pretty sure this is gonna be released and not a damned thing ICE can do about that.

I think we all fell into a troll hole


I agree but sometimes calling out troll BS is satisfying.  It's kinda like fapping.  It's no where near the real thing but it hits enough pleasure receptors to get the job done.
 
2020-07-26 7:49:56 PM  
Ice is a hate group
 
2020-07-26 7:53:41 PM  
I wasn't interested in this documentary before, but if ICE is going through this much trouble to kill it, it just shot to the top of my watch list.

Someone should tell them about the Streisand Effect.
 
2020-07-26 7:53:46 PM  

FarkingSmurf: runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.

Uh, the trailer linked upthread had Netflix branding all over it.  Pretty sure this is gonna be released and not a damned thing ICE can do about that.


It hasn't been a great day for me. I've made several bone head decisions that didn't go well. In such trying times, it's good to see an epic swing and a miss from someone else, tha puts my little faux pas into perspective.
 
2020-07-26 7:56:36 PM  

OgreMagi: I wasn't interested in this documentary before, but if ICE is going through this much trouble to kill it, it just shot to the top of my watch list.

Someone should tell them about the Streisand Effect.


Yep. Never heard of it until today.
 
2020-07-26 8:01:12 PM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: "I vas just followink orders!" -- Adolf Eichmann


It didn't work back then and it isn't gonna work now.
 
2020-07-26 8:05:55 PM  
Trying to capture and return hordes of people who break our laws and take advantage of our system is like terrorism?
 
2020-07-26 8:07:39 PM  

HerptheDerp: [howaboutacupofgofarkyourself.jpg]


Antifa hate
 
2020-07-26 8:13:02 PM  

Notabunny: HerptheDerp: [howaboutacupofgofarkyourself.jpg]

Antifa hate


Brambleberry pudding

/Wtf are you talking about?
 
2020-07-26 8:14:03 PM  

baron von doodle: OgreMagi: I wasn't interested in this documentary before, but if ICE is going through this much trouble to kill it, it just shot to the top of my watch list.

Someone should tell them about the Streisand Effect.

Yep. Never heard of it until today.


I think it might be a basic marketing campaign to get you to watch.

Please post all the good bits on Fark.
 
2020-07-26 8:15:02 PM  
FTA: ICE threatened to subpoena their raw footage of the scene in which an ICE agent picks the lock of an apartment building to reach the home of an immigrant who is being targeted for deportation, claiming there would almost certainly be an internal investigation into the incident, and that including the scene would cause the officer to get fired.

"We can't go around holding our agents accountable for every crime they commit! We'd have to fire the lot of them!"
 
2020-07-26 8:15:29 PM  

Another Government Employee: I'm surprised the Chain of Command didn't kill this project real early. But that's what happens when there is no stability at the top.


All Don Don cares about is ratings in media.
 
2020-07-26 8:16:08 PM  

Shiboleth: FarkingSmurf: runwiz: My guess is that it will be years, perhaps decades before this ever sees the light of day.  Even if they want to go ahead, they'll never find distribution in the US.  Somehow this needs to get leaked onto the internet and housed on a server overseas. Or maybe it can be the next Lincoln Project video. The days of Daniel Ellsberg, the Pentagon Papers, and the NY Times publishing those papers is long a thing of the past.

Uh, the trailer linked upthread had Netflix branding all over it.  Pretty sure this is gonna be released and not a damned thing ICE can do about that.

It hasn't been a great day for me. I've made several bone head decisions that didn't go well. In such trying times, it's good to see an epic swing and a miss from someone else, tha puts my little faux pas into perspective.


Schadenfreud ist die beste Freude.

Hope tomorrow goes better
 
2020-07-26 8:17:13 PM  
LYING SCUM.

trump, his family and everyone who supports him are lying scum.
 
2020-07-26 8:26:28 PM  

Mega Steve: FTA: ICE threatened to subpoena their raw footage of the scene in which an ICE agent picks the lock of an apartment building to reach the home of an immigrant who is being targeted for deportation, claiming there would almost certainly be an internal investigation into the incident, and that including the scene would cause the officer to get fired.

"We can't go around holding our agents accountable for every crime they commit! We'd have to fire the lot of them!"


Did you see what happened when they released a tape of cops murdering a black guy? Surely the only thing that can be done is to stop video of "law" enforcement committing crimes from being released.
 
2020-07-26 8:26:35 PM  

FleshMonkey: Notabunny: HerptheDerp: [howaboutacupofgofarkyourself.jpg]

Antifa hate

Brambleberry pudding

/Wtf are you talking about?


I was trying to make a funny about fascist-leaning Republican policies and WW2 GIs fighting against fascists and I failed
 
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