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(StudyFinds)   You know that idea about how humans are innately superior to other mammals in terms of brainpower? Yeah, about that   (studyfinds.org) divider line
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2020-07-23 7:43:16 AM  
I really have to get that novel done....
 
2020-07-23 10:27:56 AM  
All brains matter.
 
2020-07-23 10:55:12 AM  
All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.
 
Juc
2020-07-23 11:24:53 AM  
all brains are equal? HA, take that you uppity dophins.
 
2020-07-23 11:26:36 AM  
I'll believe that article when a dolphin can do my tax return.
 
2020-07-23 11:26:43 AM  

phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.


All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.
 
2020-07-23 11:35:39 AM  

phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.


I believe that "moving the goalposts" has been spotted in chimpanzees.  This doesn't get reported much, since they rip your testicles off if you cross them.
 
2020-07-23 11:43:41 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: All brains matter.


White matter matters.
 
2020-07-23 12:01:07 PM  

Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.


This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.
 
2020-07-23 12:09:31 PM  

Michael J Faux: Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.

This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.


I think it takes that bit of extra brain power to rationalize some of the really base and stupid ideas we come up with.
 
2020-07-23 12:30:51 PM  
TFA explained that the number of connections in the brains are similar. But that doesn't equate to storage capacity or processing power. I would guess its some of biological optimum given mammalian brain chemistry.

So the mouse's "computer" has the same number of soldered connection but has a much smaller chip with much less RAM. You, me, and the dolphins have much bigger chips and terabytes of storage.
 
2020-07-23 12:33:09 PM  

SansNeural: Michael J Faux: Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.

This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.

I think it takes that bit of extra brain power to rationalize some of the really base and stupid ideas we come up with.


Hmmm.  I don't see other mammals debating this on an artificial planet-wide near-instantaneous communication network.
 
2020-07-23 12:43:14 PM  
We are the only mammal that won't run from a plague, so we got that going for us.
 
2020-07-23 12:46:49 PM  

dittybopper: SansNeural: Michael J Faux: Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.

This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.

I think it takes that bit of extra brain power to rationalize some of the really base and stupid ideas we come up with.

Hmmm.  I don't see other mammals debating this on an artificial planet-wide near-instantaneous communication network.


See! This is what I.... wait...  are you putting that in the "smart" column?
 
2020-07-23 12:47:50 PM  

dittybopper: SansNeural: Michael J Faux: Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.

This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.

I think it takes that bit of extra brain power to rationalize some of the really base and stupid ideas we come up with.

Hmmm.  I don't see other mammals debating this on an artificial planet-wide near-instantaneous communication network.


Nor do I see many using tools, let alone shaping them. There's a short list of animals that seem to have any cognitive thought, let alone complex thought. Sentience is rare, sapience seems to be near unique at this point.

Number of connections is not the same as thoughput, computation power, storage, and certainly not cognition.
 
2020-07-23 1:07:43 PM  

phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.


This right here. All you primitive beings can also quake in fear of my BOOMSTICK.
 
2020-07-23 1:35:23 PM  

Fano: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

This right here. All you primitive beings can also quake in fear of my BOOMSTICK.


Heh.  Nice summary of how far from, yet near to our intellectual beginnings we are.

There obviously is some extra capability in our brain function that enables us, or many of us, to run apparent light-speed circles around our nearest primate cousins.  But as this study hints, the physical, biological difference supporting our cognitive superiority is subtle and slim, though quite significant.  But because that difference is so slight, we are still mostly animal.

Perhaps our slight but significant advantage is down to just memory - more highly connected Level 1 and 2 cache ;)   Maybe enhanced short-term and mid-term memory that allows us to hold more things active at once in thought, giving us the chance to make deeper connections between what we knew already and what we're experiencing now.  To the point where thought itself becomes an experience to be recalled and analyzed ad infinitum as necessary - where we are able to generate internal experiential stimulus far beyond what primate senses and basic recall can offer.
 
2020-07-23 1:48:35 PM  
"For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so on-whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reasons."
 
2020-07-23 2:55:58 PM  

SansNeural: Fano: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

This right here. All you primitive beings can also quake in fear of my BOOMSTICK.

Heh.  Nice summary of how far from, yet near to our intellectual beginnings we are.

There obviously is some extra capability in our brain function that enables us, or many of us, to run apparent light-speed circles around our nearest primate cousins.  But as this study hints, the physical, biological difference supporting our cognitive superiority is subtle and slim, though quite significant.  But because that difference is so slight, we are still mostly animal.

Perhaps our slight but significant advantage is down to just memory - more highly connected Level 1 and 2 cache ;)   Maybe enhanced short-term and mid-term memory that allows us to hold more things active at once in thought, giving us the chance to make deeper connections between what we knew already and what we're experiencing now.  To the point where thought itself becomes an experience to be recalled and analyzed ad infinitum as necessary - where we are able to generate internal experiential stimulus far beyond what primate senses and basic recall can offer.


Pity the octopus- they will have to evolve longer lifespans to take advantage of the ability to transmit knowledge or they will be forever trapped dumb beasts.
 
2020-07-23 3:13:57 PM  

Quantumbunny: dittybopper: SansNeural: Michael J Faux: Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.

This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.

I think it takes that bit of extra brain power to rationalize some of the really base and stupid ideas we come up with.

Hmmm.  I don't see other mammals debating this on an artificial planet-wide near-instantaneous communication network.

Nor do I see many using tools, let alone shaping them. There's a short list of animals that seem to have any cognitive thought, let alone complex thought. Sentience is rare, sapience seems to be near unique at this point.

Number of connections is not the same as thoughput, computation power, storage, and certainly not cognition.


Emphasized for its pithy brilliance.
 
2020-07-23 3:35:18 PM  

dittybopper: SansNeural: Michael J Faux: Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.

This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.

I think it takes that bit of extra brain power to rationalize some of the really base and stupid ideas we come up with.

Hmmm.  I don't see other mammals debating this on an artificial planet-wide near-instantaneous communication network.


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2020-07-23 4:46:36 PM  

dittybopper: Quantumbunny: dittybopper: SansNeural: Michael J Faux: Russ1642: phygz: All species that managed to break from the atmosphere and put subjects in space, please step forward.

All species that produced a reality TV show called Swamp People please step forward.

This brings up an interesting point, which is should intelligence be measured as the median between how smart an individual can be and how dumb an individual can be. Because while I don't see a lot of high intelligence in animals, I also don't see the depth of stupidity that I see in humans.

I think it takes that bit of extra brain power to rationalize some of the really base and stupid ideas we come up with.

Hmmm.  I don't see other mammals debating this on an artificial planet-wide near-instantaneous communication network.

Nor do I see many using tools, let alone shaping them. There's a short list of animals that seem to have any cognitive thought, let alone complex thought. Sentience is rare, sapience seems to be near unique at this point.

Number of connections is not the same as thoughput, computation power, storage, and certainly not cognition.

Emphasized for its pithy brilliance.


Funny that my throw-away joke post gets more serious discussion than my serious and thoughtful post.

I think this study's conclusions are important, but not necessarily unexpected.  To wit: Primate brains work the same way.  Subtext: some of them are bigger and work "better".
 
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