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(USA Today)   "And while people definitely can get sick off alcohol, this was not at all the same picture. When you have hand sanitizer ingestions, normally they don't need to be hospitalized, they certainly don't end up in the ICU"   (usatoday.com) divider line
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2020-07-20 11:48:33 AM  
I've been hospitalized for lack of alcohol before.

So there are  no liquor stores in Arizona?
 
2020-07-20 12:01:09 PM  
Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.
 
2020-07-20 12:02:00 PM  
You will never take away my thicc vodak.
 
2020-07-20 12:10:29 PM  

Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.


Because of Jesus.
 
2020-07-20 12:11:54 PM  
Label says hand sanitizer, I assume you have to drink it.

It's like hand soap, foot powder, eye drops, etc. Gotta swallow all of it.

Don't let no gummit labeling regalayshuns get in the way of how you medicize yourself.
 
2020-07-20 12:12:56 PM  
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2020-07-20 12:14:17 PM  

Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.


Because we don't want to deprive the Darwin Awards of source material?
 
2020-07-20 12:14:36 PM  

Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.


And if they have to use something like it in a product that is not meant to be ingested than use one of the "scary" names like hydroxymethane for methanol or ethyl hydroxide for alcohol.
 
2020-07-20 12:14:38 PM  

Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.


Because it's cheap to buy and there's profit to be made. In many cases the people bottling the sanitizer probably don't even know that the alcohol they bought has significant amounts of methanol in it. In a few cases they're straight up sociopaths who do know and don't care about the potential for harm because he, 10% more profit by using the cheaper product.
 
2020-07-20 12:18:21 PM  

Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.


FDA warns against it.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety​-​and-availability/fda-updates-hand-sani​tizers-methanol
 
2020-07-20 12:19:29 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Label says hand sanitizer, I assume you have to drink it.

It's like hand soap, foot powder, eye drops, etc. Gotta swallow all of it.

Don't let no gummit labeling regalayshuns get in the way of how you medicize yourself.


TFA says it can be absorbed through the skin and not to use it.
 
2020-07-20 12:20:47 PM  

robodog: Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.

Because it's cheap to buy and there's profit to be made. In many cases the people bottling the sanitizer probably don't even know that the alcohol they bought has significant amounts of methanol in it. In a few cases they're straight up sociopaths who do know and don't care about the potential for harm because he, 10% more profit by using the cheaper product.


Meh, I've got a liver to deal with trace methanol.  I'm ok with a little in my hand sanitizer.  There is no potential for harm rubbing a bit of methanol on your hands, just don't be a dumbass who drinks it.
 
2020-07-20 12:21:00 PM  
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2020-07-20 12:21:06 PM  
Real MAGA Americans should ignore this Liberal hit piece!

Ingesting hand sanitizer prevents and cures Obama's Covid-19 100% and you know it! DEMONcrats just want to kill Americans and never open society again for REASONS!

The true Patriots of this country will be the last ones standing because we can see through your Soros LIES and propaganda, we WILL ingest hand sanitizer by the gallons and like the Pheonix we will soar from the ashes of the destruction caused by the commie leftiests!
 
2020-07-20 12:21:16 PM  
Damn! I thought the headline said " ... WHITE people can get sick off of alcohol."
Scared me for a moment.
I need a drink.
 
2020-07-20 12:22:08 PM  
It's the government's gaddam job to make sure hand sanitizer is safe to drink! Why the fark am I even paying taxes!?
 
2020-07-20 12:27:44 PM  

RogermcAllen: robodog: Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.

Because it's cheap to buy and there's profit to be made. In many cases the people bottling the sanitizer probably don't even know that the alcohol they bought has significant amounts of methanol in it. In a few cases they're straight up sociopaths who do know and don't care about the potential for harm because he, 10% more profit by using the cheaper product.

Meh, I've got a liver to deal with trace methanol.  I'm ok with a little in my hand sanitizer.  There is no potential for harm rubbing a bit of methanol on your hands, just don't be a dumbass who drinks it.


You mean don't be a drug addict? Because normal non-addicted people aren't drinking it.

/Yet again our lack of empathy at a societal level kills people who are seen as weak rather than people with a medical condition
 
2020-07-20 12:29:38 PM  
Addiction is a fark up thing.  Cue the scene from the James Bond movie where he gave the bad guy a can of Bardahl engine oil additive and turned him loose in the desert.  Bond assured him that eventually, he would drink it.  He was right.
 
2020-07-20 12:32:21 PM  
They really expect people who can't tell the difference between Covid-19 and the flu to distinguish that kind of subtlety?
 
2020-07-20 12:36:10 PM  
FFS almost all alcohol based stuff other than drinks is denatured. With methanol.
 
2020-07-20 12:42:43 PM  

Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.


We live in an age where people drink literal poison to test themselves (strychnine), knowingly/intentionally eat incredibly toxic chemicals on a dare, and down highly caustic chemicals thinking they will help the person.  Doesn't matter what we make things with, or if the only labeling is just a giant "POISONOUS" smacked across it, someone will deliberately try to eat or drink it at some point.  It's a losing battle & not really worth the effort on this one.
 
2020-07-20 12:45:10 PM  
By comparison, only 33 people in Arizona were hospitalized in 2019 for ingesting hand sanitizer. In June, a total of 22 people were hospitalized for ingesting hand sanitizer with methanol, Dudley said.

Two incidents involving methanol exposure occurred in Pima County, but the majority of cases occurred in Arizona within Navajo Nation, Dudley said.

Dr. Jill Jim, executive director for the Navajo Nation Department of Health, said people ingesting hand sanitizer with methanol is a national issue.

"A lot of those are in relation to how the hand sanitizer products are being sold out, sold into the public markets, so I think a lot of those products were in the grocery stores," Jim said.



So apparently we're still in the 19th Century selling firewater to the Indians.
 
2020-07-20 12:45:48 PM  

lindalouwho: HotWingConspiracy: Label says hand sanitizer, I assume you have to drink it.

It's like hand soap, foot powder, eye drops, etc. Gotta swallow all of it.

Don't let no gummit labeling regalayshuns get in the way of how you medicize yourself.

TFA says it can be absorbed through the skin and not to use it.


That's never a concern when you drink it.
 
2020-07-20 12:56:32 PM  
Back before treatment, never got to the point of drinking hand sanitizer or mouthwash. I have met many people in the rooms that have done it. I just don't know how anyone could get to that point though and I was the kind of drunk that had to be in a hospital for two weeks to detox.

// 2 years 11 months 19 days
 
2020-07-20 12:57:46 PM  
It's an acquired taste so start slowly in gradual increments.  The hand sanitizer is like crack and bad for you.  The resistance you build up is like a herd immunity for toxic alcohols.

Behold the gourmet selection.

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2020-07-20 12:59:14 PM  

Mugato: I've been hospitalized for lack of alcohol before.

So there are  no liquor stores in Arizona?


Not only are there plenty of liquor stores, but you can buy basically anything you want at the supermarket or gas station. We even have home delivery.
 
2020-07-20 1:00:46 PM  
Not allowing me to drink hand sanitizer is inhibiting my freedom. Where are those bath salts.
?
 
2020-07-20 1:02:00 PM  

loki see loki do: FFS almost all alcohol based stuff other than drinks is denatured. With methanol.


Most of it has denatonium as a bitterant. Which tastes godawful but won't kill you.
 
2020-07-20 1:03:01 PM  
Fun fact: if you get methanol poisoning, ethanol is an effective treatment. Is there anything it can't do?

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2020-07-20 1:12:27 PM  
I got sick off of Alcohol back in the day. My new drug of choice is Cocaethylene
 
2020-07-20 1:13:32 PM  
i blame the guys who labeled the product...

the 4 inch tall bottle has to have all 6,500 languages of the world on it
so the stupid people can understand the message.

/you might have to make the bottle bigger
//and when they finish that one, they should  be dead, not sick.
 
2020-07-20 1:27:15 PM  

lindalouwho: Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.

FDA warns against it.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-​and-availability/fda-updates-hand-sani​tizers-methanol


Add it it, ALL of the Arizona news stations had lead stories (last week?) of "DO NOT DRINK HAND SANITIZER!" One actually laughed about it, it was subtle, but you could hear the anchor stifle a giggle.
 
2020-07-20 1:36:21 PM  
Holy shiat Arizona. How farking dumb are you?!

Nevermind. I already know I'll be disappointed with the answer.
 
2020-07-20 1:36:27 PM  
Well dammit, what else can I chase tide pods with? Windex maybe?
 
2020-07-20 1:56:25 PM  

hchaos: Mugato: I've been hospitalized for lack of alcohol before.

So there are  no liquor stores in Arizona?

Not only are there plenty of liquor stores, but you can buy basically anything you want at the supermarket or gas station. We even have home delivery.


I went on a stupid business trip to Omaha once. This was before you could just "search liquor store". So I drove around forever looking for a place to find booze. Turns out the grocery store across the street from my hotel sold liquor. A grocery store that sold vodka. I mean the rest of the town sucked (except for the steakhouse, it was awesome) but what a paradise.
 
2020-07-20 2:03:40 PM  

Mugato: hchaos: Mugato: I've been hospitalized for lack of alcohol before.

So there are  no liquor stores in Arizona?

Not only are there plenty of liquor stores, but you can buy basically anything you want at the supermarket or gas station. We even have home delivery.

I went on a stupid business trip to Omaha once. This was before you could just "search liquor store". So I drove around forever looking for a place to find booze. Turns out the grocery store across the street from my hotel sold liquor. A grocery store that sold vodka. I mean the rest of the town sucked (except for the steakhouse, it was awesome) but what a paradise.


Grocery store, that's fairly normal. Now in California you can get full strength booze at the corner gas station, that was impressive to me. The most liberal are Missouri and Nevada, both have open container legalized and public intox can't be criminalized, Nevada has 24x7 sales.
 
2020-07-20 2:06:11 PM  
Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but USA Today doesn't preview on Fark Mobile.

It would help to not have to click on USA Today.
 
2020-07-20 2:27:17 PM  
Methanol. Not even once.
 
2020-07-20 2:29:57 PM  

Mugato: I've been hospitalized for lack of alcohol before.

So there are  no liquor stores in Arizona?


Same here. And for too much alcohol. The former was by far the less pleasant of the two. Add in pancreatitis at the same time and it is a whole lot more fun. Kept me on Librium for the withdrawals and a good amount of Dilaudid for the git wrenching pain for a week or so. It was also interesting once I got home. Had to deal with the weirdness composing the lack of alcohol, benzos (Librium), and the Dilaudid. And had to fly to Florida for rehab a few days later. Just blacked out for most of the trip and ended up in the ER again once I got there. Good times. Now sober for five years...
 
2020-07-20 2:44:50 PM  

Mugato: I've been hospitalized for lack of alcohol before.

So there are  no liquor stores in Arizona?


Oh there absolutely are. But how does the price and accessibility of booze compare to hand sanitizer?

I would wager most people drinking hand sanitizer are addicts who are poor (including homeless people that take advantage of dispensers put out by stores) whose main concern is getting drunk as cheaply as possible and/or underage people who can easily go to the store and buy a bottle of 70% alcohol hand sanitizer.

I recall stories a couple years back when Russia increased taxes on alcohol they had a spate of deaths from people drinking hand sanitizer tainted with methanol.

/and people laughed at me when I said liquor stores are an essential service
//far too many people use them as a pharmacy to self-medicate
///and medical system is too overwhelmed to deal with drunks being cut off right now.
 
2020-07-20 3:00:19 PM  

Ruthven13: Kept me on Librium for the withdrawals


I prefer Ativan myself.
 
2020-07-20 3:33:04 PM  

hchaos: Mugato: I've been hospitalized for lack of alcohol before.

So there are  no liquor stores in Arizona?

Not only are there plenty of liquor stores, but you can buy basically anything you want at the supermarket or gas station. We even have home delivery.


As long as you still have an income. I'd think drinking hand sanitizer or mouthwash comes from a lack of money.
 
2020-07-20 4:38:23 PM  

RogermcAllen: robodog: Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.

Because it's cheap to buy and there's profit to be made. In many cases the people bottling the sanitizer probably don't even know that the alcohol they bought has significant amounts of methanol in it. In a few cases they're straight up sociopaths who do know and don't care about the potential for harm because he, 10% more profit by using the cheaper product.

Meh, I've got a liver to deal with trace methanol.  I'm ok with a little in my hand sanitizer.  There is no potential for harm rubbing a bit of methanol on your hands, just don't be a dumbass who drinks it.


The issue is that some of the hand sanitizers that are being sold have more than 80% methanol and no ethanol, in spite of being labeled as being made with ethanol. While inhalation or absorption through skin doesn't usually result in death, you can still experience serious effects. As little as 10 mL can render you permanently blind.

Some people have to use a lot of hand sanitizer in their work duties, especially now during the pandemic.
 
2020-07-20 7:52:45 PM  

evilsofa: RogermcAllen: robodog: Ambivalence: Why the fark are we still using methanol in any consumer products?  If it has the word "alcohol", someone is going to try and drink it.

Because it's cheap to buy and there's profit to be made. In many cases the people bottling the sanitizer probably don't even know that the alcohol they bought has significant amounts of methanol in it. In a few cases they're straight up sociopaths who do know and don't care about the potential for harm because he, 10% more profit by using the cheaper product.

Meh, I've got a liver to deal with trace methanol.  I'm ok with a little in my hand sanitizer.  There is no potential for harm rubbing a bit of methanol on your hands, just don't be a dumbass who drinks it.

The issue is that some of the hand sanitizers that are being sold have more than 80% methanol and no ethanol, in spite of being labeled as being made with ethanol. While inhalation or absorption through skin doesn't usually result in death, you can still experience serious effects. As little as 10 mL can render you permanently blind.

Some people have to use a lot of hand sanitizer in their work duties, especially now during the pandemic.


I hadn't seen the 80% number.  I was assuming it was something like the 5% you generally see in 3A (ethanol denatured for industrial use).

robodog: You mean don't be a drug addict? Because normal non-addicted people aren't drinking it.

/Yet again our lack of empathy at a societal level kills people who are seen as weak rather than people with a medical condition


The answer to drug addicts drinking hand sanitizer is counseling and drug treatment programs (and probably a pinch of affordable housing) , not making sure hand sanitizer is safe to drink.  In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the fact that some hand sanitizer is safe to drink makes it more likely that people will risk drinking hand sanitizer.
 
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