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2020-07-18 6:25:11 PM  
21 votes:
So those "pro-states' rights" Confederate "historians" should be around any second to stand up for Oregon, right?
 
2020-07-18 6:43:04 PM  
19 votes:
I'm sure the Oathkeepers are on this and will no doubt protect the citizenry and defend the Constitution just like they say.
 
2020-07-18 6:28:37 PM  
17 votes:
Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.
 
2020-07-18 6:19:34 PM  
14 votes:
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2020-07-18 6:13:30 PM  
13 votes:
 the Federal Bureau of Statistics doesn't count
 
2020-07-18 7:38:19 PM  
12 votes:

Wadded Beef: I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.


Bananas in the tailpipes?
 
2020-07-18 7:51:22 PM  
11 votes:

I_told_you_so: Could you imagine what would happen if Trump pulled this in Austin?


Alex Jones would be out in his tank yelling into his bullhorn at the protestors that they should submit to government tyranny?
 
2020-07-18 6:57:27 PM  
9 votes:

poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.


Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.
 
2020-07-18 8:17:22 PM  
8 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: This is f*cking surreal.


No. It's just f*cked up.

This is surreal.
Gangster Disney Characters beat up RUSSIAN DRIVER FIGHT !
Youtube jns_QVISyyw
 
2020-07-18 7:19:25 PM  
8 votes:

catmander: iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.

No you don't.  We all know precisely who sent them in.


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2020-07-18 6:39:36 PM  
8 votes:

Vacation Bible School: The tactical agents deployed by Homeland Security include officials from a group known as BORTAC


Very nice!... not

/sorry
 
2020-07-18 6:23:31 PM  
8 votes:
Wait, the DHHS? They're dragging the Department of Health and Human Services into this?

Is your keyboard sticky, subby?
 
2020-07-18 6:09:59 PM  
8 votes:

AirForceVet: I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.


No, no, with how our country actually functions in practice you had it right the first time.
 
2020-07-18 7:42:01 PM  
7 votes:
"Excuse me sir. Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT? 'Cause if it leaks to the VC he could end up MIA, and then we'd all be put on KP."

/Oblig.
 
2020-07-18 6:55:06 PM  
5 votes:

JonBuck: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U]


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2020-07-18 6:24:59 PM  
5 votes:
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2020-07-18 2:52:46 PM  
5 votes:
Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.
 
2020-07-18 8:48:47 PM  
4 votes:
Not sure who funnied my post. They literally shot a guy in the head. They are only doing this because they don't fear the protestors. If they knew that some of them would not be going home because they tried to pull this snatch and run illegal bullshiat they would not be doing it.

You think that all these snatched protestors are going home? History says they will be used as examples.
 
2020-07-18 8:38:29 PM  
4 votes:
Just an unrelated series of facts.

Oregon's National Guard includes an air wing with F-15Cs.

President Trump's targeted assassinations of an Iranian official in Iraq legitimizes assassination as a way to eliminate political enemies.

The one way range of an F-15C is around 3000 miles.

Washington DC is within 3000 miles of Portland, Oregon.

I am not responsible for how someone chooses to interpret these facts.
 
2020-07-18 7:43:31 PM  
4 votes:

eiger: JonBuck: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

The problem with his argument is that Trump and the people around him WANT escalation. They're counting on it. It's their reelection strategy.


What escalation? The escalation is happening right now! They will literally detain everyone one at a time until everyone is detained for the elections.

That is the goal. You can't convict but you can illegally detain until it is too late. They have been ordered to free the children in detention, that gives them space for eating away at the fringes and scaring everyone else into complicity.

Why? Because they do not fear us. They know that the protesters are unarmed. There is no risk to them. They can literally shoot you in the head and nobody will return fire or even menace them with a bat.
 
2020-07-18 6:54:04 PM  
4 votes:
The fun part is how weird the video that riled everyone up is.

Why did only two guys walk up? Why did they single out one person out of three? How did the one person know it was him they were after? Are these also telepathic police? If silent men walk up and try to abscond with him, why did he walk with them? Where is the typical protester I have rights screaming? Why didn't he question or resist?
 
2020-07-18 6:50:36 PM  
4 votes:

Vlad_the_Inaner: the Federal Bureau of Statistics doesn't count


But they estimate real good!
 
2020-07-18 6:41:31 PM  
4 votes:
#PacificaStrong

Thank you, Portlandians. You've been demonstrating for nearly EIGHT WEEKS, and we've gone past a single incident of murder by cop into free speech, statues coming down, Mississippi's flag, the Redskins name change, international solidarity protests, "reimagining the police,"
and white people examining their own privileges.

You're setting the bar. Again, thank you.
 
2020-07-18 3:11:22 PM  
4 votes:
It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it....or not resost and maybe end up in the hands of an armed right wing militia looking to make a white-ISIS video.
 
2020-07-18 7:25:06 PM  
3 votes:

detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.


I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)
 
2020-07-18 6:33:11 PM  
3 votes:
But, but, but it's a POLICE STATE when there are strict postal regulations on shipping PERFUUUUMES overseas!
 
2020-07-18 6:16:25 PM  
3 votes:
I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.
 
2020-07-18 6:11:25 PM  
3 votes:
Strange how our Federal Government isn't targeting the actual factual Nazis.
 
2020-07-18 6:08:27 PM  
3 votes:
Good.  This is how a federated republic should work.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-07-18 2:36:31 PM  
3 votes:
Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.
 
2020-07-19 3:42:16 PM  
2 votes:

Baloo Uriza: anuran: Baloo Uriza: iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.

Give you a hint, and the right answer sounds like a wet bird hitting a window.

Splatplop?

Trump


Yep. Splatplop
 
2020-07-19 1:05:03 AM  
2 votes:

Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.

The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.

I'm one of the biggest lefties on this site, AND I MADE ALL THE GUNS THESE IDIOTS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH.

I have never once been accused of being a fascist over that, except by right-wing trolls.

You live in a fantasy world.

If you believe the left is generally open and accepting of private firearms ownership, you are the one living in a fantasy land tankie dude.


Or you are a right-wing troll, which we've suspected for a long time but up until tonight didn't have confirmation.

Welcome to the list.
 
2020-07-19 12:56:32 AM  
2 votes:

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.

The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.

I'm one of the biggest lefties on this site, AND I MADE ALL THE GUNS THESE IDIOTS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH.

I have never once been accused of being a fascist over that, except by right-wing trolls.

You live in a fantasy world.


If you believe the left is generally open and accepting of private firearms ownership, you are the one living in a fantasy land tankie dude.
 
2020-07-19 12:47:03 AM  
2 votes:

Katolu: Just a matter of time before people will be dragged out of their homes. Drump has to keep escalating until the victims push back.


We are pushing back. Just not violently
 
2020-07-18 10:58:21 PM  
2 votes:

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


Give you a hint, and the right answer sounds like a wet bird hitting a window.
 
2020-07-18 9:11:54 PM  
2 votes:

SFSailor: ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.

"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.


If the Oregon DOJ really wanted to press the issue, they should deploy Oregon State Police to protect the protestors and arrest anyone trying to "arrest" them. They should also investigate the arrests and start issuing arrest warrants to the offending federal officers.

This administration seems to have the support of the "states' rights" crowd which has adjusted its views at every turn in order to sell out to Trump Jesus. This is a stark case of the federal government trampling states' rights with nary a peep from OANN.
 
2020-07-18 8:06:18 PM  
2 votes:

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


Uh, Oregon has an Army.
 
2020-07-18 7:52:57 PM  
2 votes:

AirForceVet: I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.



I believe you are mistaken.  Those are the only people who have real gun rights, as per NRA guidelines.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-07-18 7:30:20 PM  
2 votes:

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


Do you think that the Generals and the seniormost NCOs that put out statements that basically said uphold your oaths to the Constitution are going to go along with illegal orders like that?
 
2020-07-18 6:56:20 PM  
2 votes:
And when DHS replies with this:
pbs.twimg.comView Full Size



Then what?
 
2020-07-18 6:48:49 PM  
2 votes:

leviosaurus: //Pacifica gonna Pacifica


So, fog, mostly newb or tourist surfers, and traffic caused by terrified tourists who ffs can't drive their damned rental at the damned speed limit because OMG the road actually curves?

Oooooo, you mean the new country that needs to happen.  I don't mind the name, but kinda think it is a mistake to leave the inherent almost infinite brand value of the name "California" off the label... "California Coastal Republic" or something?
 
2020-07-18 6:15:28 PM  
2 votes:

AirForceVet: I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.


Actually you were right the first time. The Second Amendment is ostensibly for everybody but is only defended in practice when used in support of state-sponsored terror.
 
2020-07-18 6:10:51 PM  
2 votes:
Call out the National Guard: they're supposed to protect us from enemies, foreign and domestic.
 
2020-07-18 6:09:49 PM  
2 votes:
Good. Expose the shiat out of them.
 
2020-07-18 5:32:40 PM  
2 votes:
You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.
 
2020-07-18 4:46:32 PM  
2 votes:
This is f*cking surreal.
 
2020-07-19 1:56:30 PM  
1 vote:

Loren: Why would the gestapo go after Nazis?



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2020-07-19 10:39:50 AM  
1 vote:

TWX: Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.


Would they be arrested by the same cops who won't arrest the real criminal?
 
2020-07-19 3:31:05 AM  
1 vote:

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


I was just drunk enough to read this as "Poland could have handled this better in the beginning..." and realized it made just as much sense.
 
2020-07-19 1:09:45 AM  
1 vote:

Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.

The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.

I'm one of the biggest lefties on this site, AND I MADE ALL THE GUNS THESE IDIOTS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH.

I have never once been accused of being a fascist over that, except by right-wing trolls.

You live in a fantasy world.

If you believe the left is generally open and accepting of private firearms ownership, you are the one living in a fantasy land tankie dude.


As we say "fark around and find out, MAGAT." Liberals don't like guns. Leftists hate the idea of being unarmed when the capitalists' tools have guns
 
2020-07-19 12:34:11 AM  
1 vote:
Good, hope the feds continue to do the job local police won't.
 
2020-07-18 11:53:55 PM  
1 vote:

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.


The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.
 
2020-07-18 8:58:13 PM  
1 vote:

ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.


"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.
 
2020-07-18 8:46:03 PM  
1 vote:

treesloth: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

[YouTube video: Federal Officers In Portland Attack Medics For Trying To Help A Man Who Just Had A Seizure]

Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Holy crap...


Crimes against humanity. The USA does not prosecute their own people for war crimes, even when caught red-handed on video in other countries. Now it has come home. The USA could, except that, they use this logic:

Our soldiers have been trained to disobey those orders.

You must disobey an illegal order.

So we don't do war crimes.

What if the soldiers do war crimes on video, disproving that theory?

Notice that their own military "investigates" itself and has never, once, prosecuted their own people for war crimes. There is no independent court or tribunal the USA uses to investigate.

When we talk about the militarization of police, we also refer to that. Not just military equipment, but the absence of laws in the USA to stop the police from attacking medics during protests. In fact, there are laws in the USA that allow it, but that is not an excuse for crimes against humanity, hence the different courts and investigative methods.

As one Farker who rhymes with SmackKarlOrfer said to me on a thread a few days ago, "It is not a crime to follow a lawful order." Literally, that is Nazism. That is how the Nuremberg laws operated.  Americans have been Neo-Nazis, no exaggeration flat-out Neo-Nazis, for so long, they don't even know when they are being Neo-Nazis. The rest of the world can see, though, because we have those other prosecutorial methods and courts.
 
2020-07-18 7:18:24 PM  
1 vote:
Good.  Get the farking gestapo out of my city.
 
2020-07-18 7:13:40 PM  
1 vote:

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.
 
2020-07-18 7:09:20 PM  
1 vote:

wejash: and maybe end up in the hands of an armed right wing militia looking to make a white-ISIS video.


How many times has that happened?
 
2020-07-18 6:52:09 PM  
1 vote:
Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....
Youtube onmsFzEtK7U
 
2020-07-18 6:44:51 PM  
1 vote:

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


By kicking out the Feds?  Absolutely.
 
2020-07-18 6:34:00 PM  
1 vote:

detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here


Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica
 
2020-07-18 6:23:57 PM  
1 vote:
"...identity of the officers is not known, nor is their agency affiliation..."

What's Erik Prince been up to lately?

/oh blackwater, keep on rollin'...
 
2020-07-18 6:22:41 PM  
1 vote:

TWX: Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.


Until the outcome of these injunctions, they just need to order the local LEO's to blockade the Federal buildings and escort and protect peaceful protesters.
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This could be shut down VERY quickly making it directly a State vs Federal issue.
 
2020-07-18 6:21:29 PM  
1 vote:

wejash: It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it....or not resost and maybe end up in the hands of an armed right wing militia looking to make a white-ISIS video.


I kind of wonder how fighting as if your life actually depended on it trying to resist while shouting "Help, these aren't law enforcement! I know this guy! He isn't law enforcement! They aren't with any department! I'm being kidnapped! They're going to KILL ME!" would play out.

Protesters being, effectively kidnapped, have every reason to use everything at their disposal to fight this, and the confusion would enforce the need for identifiable law enforcement.

The best reason not to is because of the ass kicked and bone breaking and police brutality that's already become so commonplace in our, uh, "Law Enforcement" a term that's quite tainted in the modern age.
 
2020-07-18 6:21:12 PM  
1 vote:
Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong
 
2020-07-18 6:20:39 PM  
1 vote:
These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

Federal Officers In Portland Attack Medics For Trying To Help A Man Who Just Had A Seizure
Youtube RMOK4IFCwSA


Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.
 
2020-07-18 6:20:30 PM  
1 vote:
Stay super weird, Portland.
 
2020-07-18 6:20:16 PM  
1 vote:

wejash: It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it


Precisely the reason why the CHP is very clear about "do not pull over unless there is a big-ass star on the side of the car."  People were getting robbed/assaulted by pretend-o-cops years and years ago, and that should have been the end of unmarked bullshiat federally, but no.

The fact that some states use entirely unmarked (and sometimes random seized-) cars for highway enforcement goes on the looonnnnng list of things that are lonnnnnnnnnnnng overdue for a hearty, "WTF? FIX THIS NOW" about policing in this country.  And, really unmarked anything for any reason.

Burn. It. All. Down.
 
2020-07-18 6:17:41 PM  
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AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.


It might work to go full Gandhi, Or MLKjr as the case may be. But there is so much bloodlust in the USA that we should have passed that point with the teargas long ago. Plenty of unarmed protesters have been abused by the police and Americans are waiting for the farking election. WHAT COULD GO WRONG with waiting???

Well, this could go wrong with waiting.
 
2020-07-18 6:10:54 PM  
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You forget SS (the German one).
 
2020-07-18 6:10:40 PM  
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I'm fearful that nothing will happen because of this.

But I really hope they get those farks out of the state.  This is absolute bullshiat.
 
2020-07-18 3:22:00 PM  
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AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.


That's the point, and Oregon DOJ knows it.

...the lawsuit states that Oregonians could be at risk of kidnapping by "militias and other civilian 'volunteers' taking it onto themselves to pull peaceful protesters into their cars, in a manner that resembles the federal actions described..."
 
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