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TWX [TotalFark]
2020-07-18 2:36:31 PM  
136 votes:
Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.
 
2020-07-18 3:11:22 PM  
124 votes:
It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it....or not resost and maybe end up in the hands of an armed right wing militia looking to make a white-ISIS video.
 
2020-07-18 6:10:51 PM  
123 votes:
Call out the National Guard: they're supposed to protect us from enemies, foreign and domestic.
 
2020-07-18 4:46:32 PM  
92 votes:
This is f*cking surreal.
 
2020-07-18 3:22:00 PM  
90 votes:

AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.


That's the point, and Oregon DOJ knows it.

...the lawsuit states that Oregonians could be at risk of kidnapping by "militias and other civilian 'volunteers' taking it onto themselves to pull peaceful protesters into their cars, in a manner that resembles the federal actions described..."
 
2020-07-18 6:11:25 PM  
76 votes:
Strange how our Federal Government isn't targeting the actual factual Nazis.
 
2020-07-18 6:21:12 PM  
68 votes:
Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong
 
2020-07-18 6:20:16 PM  
62 votes:

wejash: It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it


Precisely the reason why the CHP is very clear about "do not pull over unless there is a big-ass star on the side of the car."  People were getting robbed/assaulted by pretend-o-cops years and years ago, and that should have been the end of unmarked bullshiat federally, but no.

The fact that some states use entirely unmarked (and sometimes random seized-) cars for highway enforcement goes on the looonnnnng list of things that are lonnnnnnnnnnnng overdue for a hearty, "WTF? FIX THIS NOW" about policing in this country.  And, really unmarked anything for any reason.

Burn. It. All. Down.
 
2020-07-18 6:41:31 PM  
51 votes:
#PacificaStrong

Thank you, Portlandians. You've been demonstrating for nearly EIGHT WEEKS, and we've gone past a single incident of murder by cop into free speech, statues coming down, Mississippi's flag, the Redskins name change, international solidarity protests, "reimagining the police,"
and white people examining their own privileges.

You're setting the bar. Again, thank you.
 
2020-07-18 6:09:49 PM  
51 votes:
Good. Expose the shiat out of them.
 
2020-07-18 2:52:46 PM  
48 votes:
Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.
 
2020-07-18 6:20:39 PM  
42 votes:
These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

Federal Officers In Portland Attack Medics For Trying To Help A Man Who Just Had A Seizure
Youtube RMOK4IFCwSA


Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.
 
2020-07-18 6:30:45 PM  
39 votes:

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


If that video ended with someone shooting the cops, I would not shed a single tear.
 
2020-07-18 6:10:40 PM  
39 votes:
I'm fearful that nothing will happen because of this.

But I really hope they get those farks out of the state.  This is absolute bullshiat.
 
2020-07-18 6:14:57 PM  
36 votes:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us​/​portland-protests.html

The federal agents facing a growing backlash for their militarized approach to weeks of unrest in Portland were not specifically trained in riot control or mass demonstrations, an internal Department of Homeland Security memo warned this week.

The message dated Thursday was prepared by the agency for Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, as he arrived in Portland to view the scene in person, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The New York Times. It listed federal buildings in the city and issues officers faced in protecting them.

The memo, seemingly anticipating future encounters with protesters in other cities as the department follows President Trump's guidance to crack down on unrest, warns: "Moving forward, if this type of response is going to be the norm, specialized training and standardized equipment should be deployed to responding agencies."

The tactical agents deployed by Homeland Security include officials from a group known as BORTAC, the Border Patrol's equivalent of a S.W.A.T. team, a highly trained group that normally is tasked with investigating drug smuggling organizations, as opposed to protesters in cities.
 
2020-07-18 2:54:58 PM  
35 votes:
I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.
 
2020-07-18 6:25:11 PM  
33 votes:
So those "pro-states' rights" Confederate "historians" should be around any second to stand up for Oregon, right?
 
2020-07-18 6:15:28 PM  
32 votes:

AirForceVet: I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.


Actually you were right the first time. The Second Amendment is ostensibly for everybody but is only defended in practice when used in support of state-sponsored terror.
 
2020-07-18 5:32:40 PM  
32 votes:
You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.
 
2020-07-18 4:47:31 PM  
32 votes:
Heavily armed guys wearing camo driving around in unmarked vans might end up posing a problem for DHS that it should have anticipated. https://www.nytimes.com/​2020/06/16/us/​steven-carrillo-air-force-boogaloo.htm​l
 
2020-07-18 6:44:51 PM  
31 votes:

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


By kicking out the Feds?  Absolutely.
 
2020-07-18 6:31:10 PM  
30 votes:

leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong


The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here
 
2020-07-18 6:29:14 PM  
30 votes:

AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.


I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.
 
2020-07-18 6:09:59 PM  
30 votes:

AirForceVet: I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.


No, no, with how our country actually functions in practice you had it right the first time.
 
2020-07-18 6:13:03 PM  
29 votes:

TWX: Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.


It's cute you think their goodwill can be restored.
 
2020-07-18 6:21:29 PM  
27 votes:

wejash: It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it....or not resost and maybe end up in the hands of an armed right wing militia looking to make a white-ISIS video.


I kind of wonder how fighting as if your life actually depended on it trying to resist while shouting "Help, these aren't law enforcement! I know this guy! He isn't law enforcement! They aren't with any department! I'm being kidnapped! They're going to KILL ME!" would play out.

Protesters being, effectively kidnapped, have every reason to use everything at their disposal to fight this, and the confusion would enforce the need for identifiable law enforcement.

The best reason not to is because of the ass kicked and bone breaking and police brutality that's already become so commonplace in our, uh, "Law Enforcement" a term that's quite tainted in the modern age.
 
2020-07-18 6:16:25 PM  
26 votes:
I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.
 
2020-07-18 6:35:38 PM  
25 votes:

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


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2020-07-18 6:17:41 PM  
25 votes:

AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.


It might work to go full Gandhi, Or MLKjr as the case may be. But there is so much bloodlust in the USA that we should have passed that point with the teargas long ago. Plenty of unarmed protesters have been abused by the police and Americans are waiting for the farking election. WHAT COULD GO WRONG with waiting???

Well, this could go wrong with waiting.
 
2020-07-18 7:13:40 PM  
24 votes:

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.
 
2020-07-18 2:57:17 PM  
20 votes:
Good.
 
2020-07-18 6:39:30 PM  
19 votes:
When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.
 
2020-07-18 6:22:02 PM  
19 votes:

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

[YouTube video: Federal Officers In Portland Attack Medics For Trying To Help A Man Who Just Had A Seizure]

Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


Remember to aim for the upper legs, just below center of mass.
 
2020-07-18 6:41:36 PM  
18 votes:

Vacation Bible School: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us​/​portland-protests.html

The federal agents facing a growing backlash for their militarized approach to weeks of unrest in Portland were not specifically trained in riot control or mass demonstrations, an internal Department of Homeland Security memo warned this week.

The message dated Thursday was prepared by the agency for Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, as he arrived in Portland to view the scene in person, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The New York Times. It listed federal buildings in the city and issues officers faced in protecting them.

The memo, seemingly anticipating future encounters with protesters in other cities as the department follows President Trump's guidance to crack down on unrest, warns: "Moving forward, if this type of response is going to be the norm, specialized training and standardized equipment should be deployed to responding agencies."

The tactical agents deployed by Homeland Security include officials from a group known as BORTAC, the Border Patrol's equivalent of a S.W.A.T. team, a highly trained group that normally is tasked with investigating drug smuggling organizations, as opposed to protesters in cities.


Yeah, he also said the reason they are not wearing name tags is to protect them and their families from retribution by these violent anarchists. So there you have it, the anonymity is intentional, to prevent identification.
 
2020-07-18 7:26:15 PM  
17 votes:

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


You're absolutely right.  If Wheeler had made the PPD to stand down at the very beginning, which is what the protesters are demanding, we could have avoided the last 50 days of protests.  But he won't do that, so here we are.
 
2020-07-18 6:32:18 PM  
17 votes:

Vacation Bible School: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us​/​portland-protests.html

The federal agents facing a growing backlash for their militarized approach to weeks of unrest in Portland were not specifically trained in riot control or mass demonstrations, an internal Department of Homeland Security memo warned this week.

The message dated Thursday was prepared by the agency for Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, as he arrived in Portland to view the scene in person, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The New York Times. It listed federal buildings in the city and issues officers faced in protecting them.

The memo, seemingly anticipating future encounters with protesters in other cities as the department follows President Trump's guidance to crack down on unrest, warns: "Moving forward, if this type of response is going to be the norm, specialized training and standardized equipment should be deployed to responding agencies."

The tactical agents deployed by Homeland Security include officials from a group known as BORTAC, the Border Patrol's equivalent of a S.W.A.T. team, a highly trained group that normally is tasked with investigating drug smuggling organizations, as opposed to protesters in cities.


Caption to one of the photos:
Protesters gathered by the hundreds late Friday and into Saturday morning - the largest crowd in weeks.

They would appear to be trying to incite violence to give them an excuse for these tactics. In any other time I would just say they are being stupid, but now I am just as likely to think they want a violent response.

I.
Hate.
This.
Timeline.
 
2020-07-18 7:28:37 PM  
16 votes:

TWX: Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.



That would work if Portland city PD were not collaborators.
 
2020-07-18 6:22:41 PM  
16 votes:

TWX: Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.


Until the outcome of these injunctions, they just need to order the local LEO's to blockade the Federal buildings and escort and protect peaceful protesters.
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This could be shut down VERY quickly making it directly a State vs Federal issue.
 
2020-07-18 7:00:17 PM  
15 votes:

JonBuck: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]


In case anyone is curious:

Here's the manual.
 
2020-07-18 6:47:32 PM  
15 votes:

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


My guess is, fascist criminal pedo-protector bill barr or Nazi Schweinhund stephen miller.
 
2020-07-18 6:08:27 PM  
15 votes:
Good.  This is how a federated republic should work.
 
2020-07-18 6:59:45 PM  
14 votes:

Koodz: I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.


They've been very careful to wait til things start to really thin out before making their move.
 
2020-07-18 6:50:50 PM  
13 votes:
Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....
Youtube onmsFzEtK7U
 
2020-07-18 8:46:03 PM  
12 votes:

treesloth: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

[YouTube video: Federal Officers In Portland Attack Medics For Trying To Help A Man Who Just Had A Seizure]

Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Holy crap...


Crimes against humanity. The USA does not prosecute their own people for war crimes, even when caught red-handed on video in other countries. Now it has come home. The USA could, except that, they use this logic:

Our soldiers have been trained to disobey those orders.

You must disobey an illegal order.

So we don't do war crimes.

What if the soldiers do war crimes on video, disproving that theory?

Notice that their own military "investigates" itself and has never, once, prosecuted their own people for war crimes. There is no independent court or tribunal the USA uses to investigate.

When we talk about the militarization of police, we also refer to that. Not just military equipment, but the absence of laws in the USA to stop the police from attacking medics during protests. In fact, there are laws in the USA that allow it, but that is not an excuse for crimes against humanity, hence the different courts and investigative methods.

As one Farker who rhymes with SmackKarlOrfer said to me on a thread a few days ago, "It is not a crime to follow a lawful order." Literally, that is Nazism. That is how the Nuremberg laws operated.  Americans have been Neo-Nazis, no exaggeration flat-out Neo-Nazis, for so long, they don't even know when they are being Neo-Nazis. The rest of the world can see, though, because we have those other prosecutorial methods and courts.
 
2020-07-18 8:38:29 PM  
12 votes:
Just an unrelated series of facts.

Oregon's National Guard includes an air wing with F-15Cs.

President Trump's targeted assassinations of an Iranian official in Iraq legitimizes assassination as a way to eliminate political enemies.

The one way range of an F-15C is around 3000 miles.

Washington DC is within 3000 miles of Portland, Oregon.

I am not responsible for how someone chooses to interpret these facts.
 
2020-07-18 7:14:52 PM  
12 votes:

DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.


"Should" being the important word there.
 
2020-07-18 7:10:24 PM  
12 votes:
detonator:I gotta say that when I saw the first video of that guy yesterday I was a little put off by his curious George hat and the way he was pronouncing "Eamon DeValera",but I admit that he's a sharp cat.
Never heard of him before this. Thanks to you guys for turning us on to him.


Fark turned me on to him a few days (weeks? months? whothehellknows; time is weird right now) ago.

Dude is *sharp*.  And his presentation is brilliant -- the accent and setting definitely cut down any immediate "oh some book larnin' northern elite is gonna lecture _me_?" from some audiences that really need to hear it.  And his wardrobing is super thoughtful and clever-relevant to the topic, at least the last couple once I noticed it:

"Curious George" == "here are all these resources to learn. And they're free.  Go be curious."

The first time I noticed, I was all, "why is he wearing an Ireland shirt" --> "parallels between Portland and how the IRA ended up getting going and how it became decades of Troubles."

Between him and Liberal Redneck, I hope there are Peabody Awards / Grants / whatever-they-would-love-to-be-rewarde​d-withs heading their way.
 
2020-07-18 6:50:52 PM  
12 votes:

Derek Force: I'm fearful that nothing will happen because of this.

But I really hope they get those farks out of the state.  This is absolute bullshiat.


Oh, something is going to happen. DHS has already said this will be rolled out to the other cities.
 
2020-07-18 6:34:00 PM  
12 votes:

detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here


Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica
 
2020-07-18 6:23:57 PM  
12 votes:
"...identity of the officers is not known, nor is their agency affiliation..."

What's Erik Prince been up to lately?

/oh blackwater, keep on rollin'...
 
2020-07-18 6:27:28 PM  
11 votes:

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


Do you really need to ask?
 
2020-07-18 6:35:47 PM  
10 votes:

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


No, you don't need to wonder at all. It's so farking obvious.
 
2020-07-18 7:18:24 PM  
9 votes:
Good.  Get the farking gestapo out of my city.
 
2020-07-18 8:58:13 PM  
8 votes:

ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.


"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.
 
2020-07-18 8:52:32 PM  
8 votes:

SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.


Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.
 
2020-07-18 7:59:27 PM  
8 votes:
Good!!!  As far as I am concerned, the States are obligated to protect their people from outside agencies. If the State is unwilling to step up, the people will be forced to act.

If these events are true, the fed has completely and unabashedly crossed the line.
 
2020-07-18 6:54:04 PM  
8 votes:
The fun part is how weird the video that riled everyone up is.

Why did only two guys walk up? Why did they single out one person out of three? How did the one person know it was him they were after? Are these also telepathic police? If silent men walk up and try to abscond with him, why did he walk with them? Where is the typical protester I have rights screaming? Why didn't he question or resist?
 
2020-07-18 6:12:07 PM  
8 votes:
Something something under color of law?  Felony?
 
2020-07-18 9:27:55 PM  
7 votes:

ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.


UCMJ aside, we're signatories to the Geneva Conventions, and even police actions (should the rise to the level defined in the Geneva Conventions) are part of the deal.

BTW Trump's action just got us on the list of recorded violations of 'intranational police action medical neutrality' for the first time (woo, USA) just last month.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical​_​neutrality#USA_(2020)

"On Tuesday June 2, during peaceful protests following the death of George Floyd in custody of police officers in Minneapolis, Asheville police officers in riot gear surrounded a medic station and forcefully removed 10-12 medics, resulting in minor injuries. Officers also destroyed supplies including water bottles, bandages, saline solution, eye wash, and sutures."
 
2020-07-18 8:48:47 PM  
7 votes:
Not sure who funnied my post. They literally shot a guy in the head. They are only doing this because they don't fear the protestors. If they knew that some of them would not be going home because they tried to pull this snatch and run illegal bullshiat they would not be doing it.

You think that all these snatched protestors are going home? History says they will be used as examples.
 
2020-07-18 8:11:34 PM  
7 votes:

Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
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Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.


Oh blah, blah, blah....I talk about my/our guns whenever I want.   Stop that bullshiat.
 
2020-07-18 7:58:54 PM  
7 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: This is f*cking surreal.


Kind of, but not really.

/paid attention to everything Sarah Kendzior was practically shouting at us the past few years
 
2020-07-18 7:13:02 PM  
7 votes:

leviosaurus: detonator: Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.

Oh, I know. You guys have the dildonians, after all. WA has Eastern WA, and CA has the Central Valley. Fortunately the mostly sane outnumber the "State of Jefferson" types.


True, but as Robert Evans outlines in his podcast "It Could Happen Here", the rural population of California could, if they went full insurgent, cripple the transport corridors, agriglcultural and water supply to vulnerable urban areas.
 
2020-07-18 7:04:25 PM  
7 votes:

SFSailor: JonBuck: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

In case anyone is curious:

Here's the manual.


I gotta say that when I saw the first video of that guy yesterday I was a little put off by his curious George hat and the way he was pronouncing "Eamon DeValera",but I admit that he's a sharp cat.
Never heard of him before this. Thanks to you guys for turning us on to him.
 
2020-07-19 12:54:26 AM  
6 votes:

abiigdog: Good, hope the feds continue to do the job local police won't.


I have you farkied as "against benefits for 9/11 first responders"
 
2020-07-18 9:42:38 PM  
6 votes:

Wadded Beef: I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.


Slashing the tires might take too much time. Risk discovery. Set some caltrops at the tires and GTFO.
 
2020-07-18 9:16:05 PM  
6 votes:

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


That's a f$cking war crime.
 
2020-07-18 7:47:55 PM  
6 votes:
Just a matter of time before people will be dragged out of their homes. Drump has to keep escalating until the victims push back.
 
2020-07-18 6:56:20 PM  
6 votes:
And when DHS replies with this:
pbs.twimg.comView Full Size



Then what?
 
2020-07-18 6:49:12 PM  
6 votes:

leviosaurus: detonator: Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.

Oh, I know. You guys have the dildonians, after all. WA has Eastern WA, and CA has the Central Valley. Fortunately the mostly sane outnumber the "State of Jefferson" types.


A large percentage of the dildodians at Malheur were from out of state, but they did have plenty of support locally, especially from law enforcement.
 
2020-07-19 12:11:46 PM  
5 votes:

Ruthven13: Moroning: [YouTube video: Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....]

pEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT

So what is the title of the book/manual?


FM3-24 Insurgencies and Countering Insurgencies
 
2020-07-18 11:07:15 PM  
5 votes:

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


This has Miller written all over it.
 
2020-07-18 9:11:54 PM  
5 votes:

SFSailor: ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.

"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.


If the Oregon DOJ really wanted to press the issue, they should deploy Oregon State Police to protect the protestors and arrest anyone trying to "arrest" them. They should also investigate the arrests and start issuing arrest warrants to the offending federal officers.

This administration seems to have the support of the "states' rights" crowd which has adjusted its views at every turn in order to sell out to Trump Jesus. This is a stark case of the federal government trampling states' rights with nary a peep from OANN.
 
2020-07-18 7:51:22 PM  
5 votes:

I_told_you_so: Could you imagine what would happen if Trump pulled this in Austin?


Alex Jones would be out in his tank yelling into his bullhorn at the protestors that they should submit to government tyranny?
 
2020-07-18 7:45:07 PM  
5 votes:

SFSailor: detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.

I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)


Let's talk about how to watch this channel and 300,000 subscribers....
Youtube xzmbnUD09tw
 
2020-07-18 6:38:00 PM  
5 votes:

leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica


Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.
 
2020-07-19 8:49:09 AM  
4 votes:
We all knew it was inevitable that Trump would call in the Gestapo to help him compensate for his withered manhood and make him look good with his Nazi base.
 
2020-07-19 1:09:45 AM  
4 votes:

Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.

The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.

I'm one of the biggest lefties on this site, AND I MADE ALL THE GUNS THESE IDIOTS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH.

I have never once been accused of being a fascist over that, except by right-wing trolls.

You live in a fantasy world.

If you believe the left is generally open and accepting of private firearms ownership, you are the one living in a fantasy land tankie dude.


As we say "fark around and find out, MAGAT." Liberals don't like guns. Leftists hate the idea of being unarmed when the capitalists' tools have guns
 
2020-07-19 12:18:11 AM  
4 votes:

Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.

The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.


I'm one of the biggest lefties on this site, AND I MADE ALL THE GUNS THESE IDIOTS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH.

I have never once been accused of being a fascist over that, except by right-wing trolls.

You live in a fantasy world.
 
2020-07-18 11:11:13 PM  
4 votes:

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


Yes. It could have. After the first two nights of protests when the provocateurs and assholes were gone they could have de-escalated. Instead they did the UPPS - Usual Portland Pig shiat. They kettled. They advanced. They escalated. They surrounded and then attacked. They fired baton rounds straight at people instead of at the ground where they'd lose energy on the bounce. The targeted the press. They targeted legal observers. They targeted medics.

They did everything they could to make the situation as violent as they could.

We have fifty years of law enforcement research about how to keep things from becoming violent. They did exactly the opposite every time.
 
2020-07-18 10:30:15 PM  
4 votes:
This shiat will get an armed response if they don't knock it off and it will be 100% justified.

Do they not understand what is going on here and Americans are watching this and getting very pissed off?
 
2020-07-18 8:22:38 PM  
4 votes:

Bandito King: detonator: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.

Someone's been to Truckee.


You misspelled Taft.
 
2020-07-18 8:21:34 PM  
4 votes:

SurelyShirley: SFSailor: detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.

I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)

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Thanks for that.  Holy hell, I think my "man crush" moved to "would propose, if I didn't have an s/o. And was gay. And he was amenable."

His presentation really is remarkable... the way he mixes eye contact with looking away with facial expressions that telegraph just enough "do I have to explain this?" at just distant enough intervals, etc, really are remarkable.

One of the very best things Fark has brought to my attention, I think.  Makes me wish I had a YT/FB/Twitter account so I could pester him with praise and comments.  On the off chance he's a Farker:  Dude, any time you pass through the SF Bay Area (if we're ever allowed to travel again, and comfortable doing so, that is) I would love to have you over for a long, relaxed SF-style brunch on the deck! EIP!

For those interested, I found his t-shirt site (no affiliation; assuming it's his, I guess, it's a google result) and some of them are _awesome_.

Hell, I was gonna post an example, but there are too many good ones.  Fark may be my most expensive internet hobby, frankly.... and I spend time on speaker-, boat-, and car-related forums!
 
2020-07-18 7:43:31 PM  
4 votes:

eiger: JonBuck: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

The problem with his argument is that Trump and the people around him WANT escalation. They're counting on it. It's their reelection strategy.


What escalation? The escalation is happening right now! They will literally detain everyone one at a time until everyone is detained for the elections.

That is the goal. You can't convict but you can illegally detain until it is too late. They have been ordered to free the children in detention, that gives them space for eating away at the fringes and scaring everyone else into complicity.

Why? Because they do not fear us. They know that the protesters are unarmed. There is no risk to them. They can literally shoot you in the head and nobody will return fire or even menace them with a bat.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-07-18 7:30:20 PM  
4 votes:

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


Do you think that the Generals and the seniormost NCOs that put out statements that basically said uphold your oaths to the Constitution are going to go along with illegal orders like that?
 
2020-07-18 6:57:27 PM  
4 votes:

poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.


Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.
 
2020-07-18 6:19:34 PM  
4 votes:
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-07-18 6:10:54 PM  
4 votes:
You forget SS (the German one).
 
2020-07-19 1:05:03 AM  
3 votes:

Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.

The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.

I'm one of the biggest lefties on this site, AND I MADE ALL THE GUNS THESE IDIOTS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH.

I have never once been accused of being a fascist over that, except by right-wing trolls.

You live in a fantasy world.

If you believe the left is generally open and accepting of private firearms ownership, you are the one living in a fantasy land tankie dude.


Or you are a right-wing troll, which we've suspected for a long time but up until tonight didn't have confirmation.

Welcome to the list.
 
2020-07-18 11:31:47 PM  
3 votes:

Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.


You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.
 
2020-07-18 10:21:01 PM  
3 votes:

ShockDiode: Koodz: AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.

I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.

I wouldn't mind seeing a squad or five of these feds swinging from the Hawthorne bridge but rationally I know that's exactly what they want.


I'd like to see a citizens arrest.  I'd like to see a few of them disarmed by citizens and marched up to the court house.
 
2020-07-18 9:52:08 PM  
3 votes:

Koodz: AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.

I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.


I wouldn't mind seeing a squad or five of these feds swinging from the Hawthorne bridge but rationally I know that's exactly what they want.
 
2020-07-18 9:42:22 PM  
3 votes:
Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....
Youtube onmsFzEtK7U


pEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT
 
2020-07-18 8:07:01 PM  
3 votes:

NM Volunteer: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

If that video ended with someone shooting the cops, I would not shed a single tear.


I'd shed a tear because it'd be the end of the video.

/do another one!
 
2020-07-18 8:06:18 PM  
3 votes:

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


Uh, Oregon has an Army.
 
2020-07-18 8:04:28 PM  
3 votes:

detonator: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.


There aren't that many, but lot's of land.  Also, if they tried that...fine...keep them in their little burgs, no access to the coast or major medical centers, etc.   Let them stew over in Bundyland.
 
2020-07-18 6:58:47 PM  
3 votes:

TheVirginMarty: The fun part is how weird the video that riled everyone up is.

Why did only two guys walk up? Why did they single out one person out of three? How did the one person know it was him they were after? Are these also telepathic police? If silent men walk up and try to abscond with him, why did he walk with them? Where is the typical protester I have rights screaming? Why didn't he question or resist?


It's a triple double secret reverse true flag situation?
 
2020-07-18 6:52:09 PM  
3 votes:
Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....
Youtube onmsFzEtK7U
 
2020-07-18 6:28:37 PM  
3 votes:
Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.
 
2020-07-18 6:13:30 PM  
3 votes:
Interesting how this will play out.

Will courts decide that a state has the power to make uniform decisions for feds?

Could they require clownish uniforms? Nazi uniforms?

Or at best will they be told patches and labels be more clear?
 
2020-07-18 11:41:59 PM  
2 votes:
It's called an unlawful order.
 
2020-07-18 11:27:22 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: Good.  Get the farking gestapo out of my city.


They should order the police to patrol and arrest the Feds on sight, and then fire anyone who doesn't show up to work.
 
2020-07-18 11:13:11 PM  
2 votes:

zeaper12: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

I'm sure many scummy lawyers would agree.


Good! When those scummy lawyers are done giving BORTAC a forced colonoscopy, maybe they will decide not to get involved in this kind of crap again.
 
2020-07-18 10:27:55 PM  
2 votes:

SurelyShirley: SFSailor: detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.

I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/xzmbnUD0​9tw?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]


He made that on July 1st after hitting 300k subscribers. 18 days later and he's less than 20k away from 400k. It took 8 months for him to go from 100k to 200k.

He's getting quite popular.
 
2020-07-18 9:22:26 PM  
2 votes:

mrshowrules: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

That's a f$cking war crime.


Of course, so is using chemical weapons.

fnordfocus: they just switched from khaki uniforms to blues in support of blue lives matter this week, though.


I've long defended the CHP (and I say that as someone who drives a lot... and occsionally... "rapidly" *cough*...) ... but that might be a silver bullet that ends that defense.  Really disappointing.  Missed that story, so, thanks.
 
2020-07-18 9:17:36 PM  
2 votes:

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


and then, the spankings
 
2020-07-18 8:57:36 PM  
2 votes:

SFSailor: wejash: It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it

Precisely the reason why the CHP is very clear about "do not pull over unless there is a big-ass star on the side of the car."  People were getting robbed/assaulted by pretend-o-cops years and years ago, and that should have been the end of unmarked bullshiat federally, but no.

The fact that some states use entirely unmarked (and sometimes random seized-) cars for highway enforcement goes on the looonnnnng list of things that are lonnnnnnnnnnnng overdue for a hearty, "WTF? FIX THIS NOW" about policing in this country.  And, really unmarked anything for any reason.

Burn. It. All. Down.


They may say that, but CHP is also a huge user of unmarked unconventional police cars. Don't forget they actually used unmarked Volvos around the turn of the millennium.

And they show up en masse to support Craig Peyer every time he's up for parole.

So that's lip service at best.
 
2020-07-18 8:12:51 PM  
2 votes:

scanman61: PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?

Uh, Oregon has an Army.


It has the army national guard trump can just take away whenever he wants, my guy. As for the staties and cops? Id be willing to bet theyd side with the feds.
 
2020-07-18 7:06:31 PM  
2 votes:

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


No you don't.  We all know precisely who sent them in.
 
2020-07-18 6:50:36 PM  
2 votes:

Vlad_the_Inaner: the Federal Bureau of Statistics doesn't count


But they estimate real good!
 
2020-07-18 6:43:46 PM  
2 votes:

detonator: Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.


Oh, I know. You guys have the dildonians, after all. WA has Eastern WA, and CA has the Central Valley. Fortunately the mostly sane outnumber the "State of Jefferson" types.
 
2020-07-18 6:43:04 PM  
2 votes:
I'm sure the Oathkeepers are on this and will no doubt protect the citizenry and defend the Constitution just like they say.
 
2020-07-18 6:39:28 PM  
2 votes:

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

[YouTube video: Federal Officers In Portland Attack Medics For Trying To Help A Man Who Just Had A Seizure]

Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


Holy crap...
 
2020-07-19 12:34:11 AM  
1 vote:
Good, hope the feds continue to do the job local police won't.
 
2020-07-18 11:02:09 PM  
1 vote:

leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong


Kesey will rise from the grave and wrassle 'em.
 
2020-07-18 10:20:59 PM  
1 vote:

SFSailor: ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.

"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.


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2020-07-18 10:07:02 PM  
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ChubbyTiger: Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.


If they are playing solider, the UCMJ or nearly identical laws should apply.

Oregon could pass a law saying that all violations listed in the UCMJ are state felonies.
 
2020-07-18 9:03:18 PM  
1 vote:

fnordfocus: They may say that, but CHP is also a huge user of unmarked unconventional police cars. Don't forget they actually used unmarked Volvos around the turn of the millennium.


Huh.  I'll google.  I must have missed an update (and it's been a while, so that's on me).  I just remember the turmoil when they finally went to !black-and-whites without light bars, and had to make the case that they were for trucking/commercial enforcement, and would still have big ol' stars on the side.

The differences between highway speed enforcement in CA vs the east coast are *night*and*day*, but maybe I just haven't caught the "hide in the bushes in an drug-arrest-seized older green Durango"-style operations the CHP is doing?  And it is also really important that their ticket revenue goes to the state general fund, not CHP budgets or even law-enforcement... but maybe that's changed, too?

Interesting.  Thanks for the heads-up.  Time to recalibrate my cop-dar, apparently.
 
2020-07-18 8:11:14 PM  
1 vote:

detonator: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.


Someone's been to Truckee.
 
2020-07-18 7:52:57 PM  
1 vote:

AirForceVet: I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.



I believe you are mistaken.  Those are the only people who have real gun rights, as per NRA guidelines.
 
2020-07-18 7:42:01 PM  
1 vote:
"Excuse me sir. Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT? 'Cause if it leaks to the VC he could end up MIA, and then we'd all be put on KP."

/Oblig.
 
2020-07-18 7:19:25 PM  
1 vote:

catmander: iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.

No you don't.  We all know precisely who sent them in.


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2020-07-18 7:09:20 PM  
1 vote:

wejash: and maybe end up in the hands of an armed right wing militia looking to make a white-ISIS video.


How many times has that happened?
 
2020-07-18 6:48:49 PM  
1 vote:

leviosaurus: //Pacifica gonna Pacifica


So, fog, mostly newb or tourist surfers, and traffic caused by terrified tourists who ffs can't drive their damned rental at the damned speed limit because OMG the road actually curves?

Oooooo, you mean the new country that needs to happen.  I don't mind the name, but kinda think it is a mistake to leave the inherent almost infinite brand value of the name "California" off the label... "California Coastal Republic" or something?
 
2020-07-18 6:33:11 PM  
1 vote:
But, but, but it's a POLICE STATE when there are strict postal regulations on shipping PERFUUUUMES overseas!
 
2020-07-18 6:26:41 PM  
1 vote:
I thought the government didn't approve of basij tactics.
 
2020-07-18 6:18:25 PM  
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