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2020-07-18 8:08:56 PM  

SurelyShirley: JonBuck: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U]

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I just drank him!
 
2020-07-18 8:11:14 PM  

detonator: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.


Someone's been to Truckee.
 
2020-07-18 8:11:34 PM  

Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.


Oh blah, blah, blah....I talk about my/our guns whenever I want.   Stop that bullshiat.
 
2020-07-18 8:12:51 PM  

scanman61: PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?

Uh, Oregon has an Army.


It has the army national guard trump can just take away whenever he wants, my guy. As for the staties and cops? Id be willing to bet theyd side with the feds.
 
2020-07-18 8:17:22 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: This is f*cking surreal.


No. It's just f*cked up.

This is surreal.
Gangster Disney Characters beat up RUSSIAN DRIVER FIGHT !
Youtube jns_QVISyyw
 
2020-07-18 8:21:34 PM  

SurelyShirley: SFSailor: detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.

I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)

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Thanks for that.  Holy hell, I think my "man crush" moved to "would propose, if I didn't have an s/o. And was gay. And he was amenable."

His presentation really is remarkable... the way he mixes eye contact with looking away with facial expressions that telegraph just enough "do I have to explain this?" at just distant enough intervals, etc, really are remarkable.

One of the very best things Fark has brought to my attention, I think.  Makes me wish I had a YT/FB/Twitter account so I could pester him with praise and comments.  On the off chance he's a Farker:  Dude, any time you pass through the SF Bay Area (if we're ever allowed to travel again, and comfortable doing so, that is) I would love to have you over for a long, relaxed SF-style brunch on the deck! EIP!

For those interested, I found his t-shirt site (no affiliation; assuming it's his, I guess, it's a google result) and some of them are _awesome_.

Hell, I was gonna post an example, but there are too many good ones.  Fark may be my most expensive internet hobby, frankly.... and I spend time on speaker-, boat-, and car-related forums!
 
2020-07-18 8:22:38 PM  

Bandito King: detonator: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.

Someone's been to Truckee.


You misspelled Taft.
 
2020-07-18 8:38:29 PM  
Just an unrelated series of facts.

Oregon's National Guard includes an air wing with F-15Cs.

President Trump's targeted assassinations of an Iranian official in Iraq legitimizes assassination as a way to eliminate political enemies.

The one way range of an F-15C is around 3000 miles.

Washington DC is within 3000 miles of Portland, Oregon.

I am not responsible for how someone chooses to interpret these facts.
 
2020-07-18 8:46:03 PM  

treesloth: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

[YouTube video: Federal Officers In Portland Attack Medics For Trying To Help A Man Who Just Had A Seizure]

Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Holy crap...


Crimes against humanity. The USA does not prosecute their own people for war crimes, even when caught red-handed on video in other countries. Now it has come home. The USA could, except that, they use this logic:

Our soldiers have been trained to disobey those orders.

You must disobey an illegal order.

So we don't do war crimes.

What if the soldiers do war crimes on video, disproving that theory?

Notice that their own military "investigates" itself and has never, once, prosecuted their own people for war crimes. There is no independent court or tribunal the USA uses to investigate.

When we talk about the militarization of police, we also refer to that. Not just military equipment, but the absence of laws in the USA to stop the police from attacking medics during protests. In fact, there are laws in the USA that allow it, but that is not an excuse for crimes against humanity, hence the different courts and investigative methods.

As one Farker who rhymes with SmackKarlOrfer said to me on a thread a few days ago, "It is not a crime to follow a lawful order." Literally, that is Nazism. That is how the Nuremberg laws operated.  Americans have been Neo-Nazis, no exaggeration flat-out Neo-Nazis, for so long, they don't even know when they are being Neo-Nazis. The rest of the world can see, though, because we have those other prosecutorial methods and courts.
 
2020-07-18 8:48:47 PM  
Not sure who funnied my post. They literally shot a guy in the head. They are only doing this because they don't fear the protestors. If they knew that some of them would not be going home because they tried to pull this snatch and run illegal bullshiat they would not be doing it.

You think that all these snatched protestors are going home? History says they will be used as examples.
 
2020-07-18 8:52:32 PM  

SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.


Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.
 
2020-07-18 8:57:36 PM  

SFSailor: wejash: It's kind of creepy that if you see an unmarked vsn deploying armed guys in camo yelling you are under arrest, you have to decide whether to resist actual LEOs and get charged for it

Precisely the reason why the CHP is very clear about "do not pull over unless there is a big-ass star on the side of the car."  People were getting robbed/assaulted by pretend-o-cops years and years ago, and that should have been the end of unmarked bullshiat federally, but no.

The fact that some states use entirely unmarked (and sometimes random seized-) cars for highway enforcement goes on the looonnnnng list of things that are lonnnnnnnnnnnng overdue for a hearty, "WTF? FIX THIS NOW" about policing in this country.  And, really unmarked anything for any reason.

Burn. It. All. Down.


They may say that, but CHP is also a huge user of unmarked unconventional police cars. Don't forget they actually used unmarked Volvos around the turn of the millennium.

And they show up en masse to support Craig Peyer every time he's up for parole.

So that's lip service at best.
 
2020-07-18 8:58:13 PM  

ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.


"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.
 
2020-07-18 8:58:26 PM  
Thank god. Keep going!
 
2020-07-18 9:03:18 PM  

fnordfocus: They may say that, but CHP is also a huge user of unmarked unconventional police cars. Don't forget they actually used unmarked Volvos around the turn of the millennium.


Huh.  I'll google.  I must have missed an update (and it's been a while, so that's on me).  I just remember the turmoil when they finally went to !black-and-whites without light bars, and had to make the case that they were for trucking/commercial enforcement, and would still have big ol' stars on the side.

The differences between highway speed enforcement in CA vs the east coast are *night*and*day*, but maybe I just haven't caught the "hide in the bushes in an drug-arrest-seized older green Durango"-style operations the CHP is doing?  And it is also really important that their ticket revenue goes to the state general fund, not CHP budgets or even law-enforcement... but maybe that's changed, too?

Interesting.  Thanks for the heads-up.  Time to recalibrate my cop-dar, apparently.
 
2020-07-18 9:11:54 PM  

SFSailor: ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.

"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.


If the Oregon DOJ really wanted to press the issue, they should deploy Oregon State Police to protect the protestors and arrest anyone trying to "arrest" them. They should also investigate the arrests and start issuing arrest warrants to the offending federal officers.

This administration seems to have the support of the "states' rights" crowd which has adjusted its views at every turn in order to sell out to Trump Jesus. This is a stark case of the federal government trampling states' rights with nary a peep from OANN.
 
2020-07-18 9:14:31 PM  

BolloxReader: Not sure who funnied my post. They literally shot a guy in the head. They are only doing this because they don't fear the protestors. If they knew that some of them would not be going home because they tried to pull this snatch and run illegal bullshiat they would not be doing it.

You think that all these snatched protestors are going home? History says they will be used as examples.


I didn't funny it, but it is fairly silly to say in a thread about arresting people and releasing them the same day.

"What escalation? The escalation is happening right now! They will literally detain everyone one at a time until everyone is detained for the elections.

That is the goal. You can't convict but you can illegally detain until it is too late. "
 
2020-07-18 9:14:49 PM  
They have a lot of Fords that do have stars, but unconventional paint jobs. But the definitely use unmarked vehicles, and have a bit of a history with on duty officers raping and murdering - Gwaltney and Peyer in the 1980s, and there are literally multiple officers in the paper this week for on-duty sexual assaults. So no real reason to think getting pulled over by a marked car is safer.

Possibly a bit cynical about this because they just switched from khaki uniforms to blues in support of blue lives matter this week, though.

And it's definitely true nationwide that the whole tacticool uniforms and cult of unquestioned authority have made it easier for cop impersonators.
 
2020-07-18 9:16:05 PM  

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


That's a f$cking war crime.
 
2020-07-18 9:17:36 PM  

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


and then, the spankings
 
2020-07-18 9:22:26 PM  

mrshowrules: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

That's a f$cking war crime.


Of course, so is using chemical weapons.

fnordfocus: they just switched from khaki uniforms to blues in support of blue lives matter this week, though.


I've long defended the CHP (and I say that as someone who drives a lot... and occsionally... "rapidly" *cough*...) ... but that might be a silver bullet that ends that defense.  Really disappointing.  Missed that story, so, thanks.
 
2020-07-18 9:27:55 PM  

ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.


UCMJ aside, we're signatories to the Geneva Conventions, and even police actions (should the rise to the level defined in the Geneva Conventions) are part of the deal.

BTW Trump's action just got us on the list of recorded violations of 'intranational police action medical neutrality' for the first time (woo, USA) just last month.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical​_​neutrality#USA_(2020)

"On Tuesday June 2, during peaceful protests following the death of George Floyd in custody of police officers in Minneapolis, Asheville police officers in riot gear surrounded a medic station and forcefully removed 10-12 medics, resulting in minor injuries. Officers also destroyed supplies including water bottles, bandages, saline solution, eye wash, and sutures."
 
2020-07-18 9:42:22 PM  
Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....
Youtube onmsFzEtK7U


pEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT
 
2020-07-18 9:42:38 PM  

Wadded Beef: I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.


Slashing the tires might take too much time. Risk discovery. Set some caltrops at the tires and GTFO.
 
2020-07-18 9:52:08 PM  

Koodz: AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.

I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.


I wouldn't mind seeing a squad or five of these feds swinging from the Hawthorne bridge but rationally I know that's exactly what they want.
 
2020-07-18 10:07:02 PM  

ChubbyTiger: Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.


If they are playing solider, the UCMJ or nearly identical laws should apply.

Oregon could pass a law saying that all violations listed in the UCMJ are state felonies.
 
2020-07-18 10:10:56 PM  
The lawyers love this shait they are the only ones that will win!
 
2020-07-18 10:20:59 PM  

SFSailor: ChubbyTiger: SFSailor: DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.

"Should" being the important word there.

Should not.  The UCMJ is for military only.  These people are civilians.  Law enforcement, sure, but civil law enforcement.  Arrest them, try them, jail them - in civilian court.  Don't start thinking like they do - the difference between military and civilian isn't just any old uniform.

"Fark with medics == spend the rest of your life breaking rocks in jail" being the important notion of the UCMJ should absolutely be applied to anyone wearing a badge and claiming to enforce the law.  The mechanism of the enforcement doesn't really matter to that point, but I see what you're getting at, I think.

The "should" was less "UCMJ should apply to everyone cuz fascism rocks" and more " 'should' ... but won't."

Also, we don't know whether the fascist assholes who are kidnapping protesters are military, para-military, private, or civilian... SINCE THEY ARE FARKING UNIDENTIFIED.  This kind of shiat wasn't supposed to happen in this country, but here we are.  Oh, and there are now 143,000 dead Americans who didn't need to die, but were killed by this administration... SO FAR.  Thanks, MAGAts.


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2020-07-18 10:21:01 PM  

ShockDiode: Koodz: AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.

I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.

I wouldn't mind seeing a squad or five of these feds swinging from the Hawthorne bridge but rationally I know that's exactly what they want.


I'd like to see a citizens arrest.  I'd like to see a few of them disarmed by citizens and marched up to the court house.
 
2020-07-18 10:26:02 PM  

leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica


I'm sure many scummy lawyers would agree.
 
2020-07-18 10:27:55 PM  

SurelyShirley: SFSailor: detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.

I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)

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He made that on July 1st after hitting 300k subscribers. 18 days later and he's less than 20k away from 400k. It took 8 months for him to go from 100k to 200k.

He's getting quite popular.
 
2020-07-18 10:30:15 PM  
This shiat will get an armed response if they don't knock it off and it will be 100% justified.

Do they not understand what is going on here and Americans are watching this and getting very pissed off?
 
2020-07-18 10:48:35 PM  

mrshowrules: ShockDiode: Koodz: AirForceVet: Blockade the farking federal courthouse and facilities. The federal agents will injure or kill someone (as they have already) or encourage right wing nut jobs to do the same.

Likewise, someone may defend themselves and take out a federal agent or more. The 2nd Amendment is restricted to KKK and Nazis only.

I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.

I wouldn't mind seeing a squad or five of these feds swinging from the Hawthorne bridge but rationally I know that's exactly what they want.

I'd like to see a citizens arrest.  I'd like to see a few of them disarmed by citizens and marched up to the court house.


Agreed.
 
2020-07-18 10:50:29 PM  
So when does Donald Trump "Pinochet" Joe Biden?

//it happened to Eduardo Frei
 
2020-07-18 10:58:21 PM  

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


Give you a hint, and the right answer sounds like a wet bird hitting a window.
 
2020-07-18 11:02:09 PM  

leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong


Kesey will rise from the grave and wrassle 'em.
 
2020-07-18 11:07:15 PM  

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


This has Miller written all over it.
 
2020-07-18 11:11:13 PM  

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


Yes. It could have. After the first two nights of protests when the provocateurs and assholes were gone they could have de-escalated. Instead they did the UPPS - Usual Portland Pig shiat. They kettled. They advanced. They escalated. They surrounded and then attacked. They fired baton rounds straight at people instead of at the ground where they'd lose energy on the bounce. The targeted the press. They targeted legal observers. They targeted medics.

They did everything they could to make the situation as violent as they could.

We have fifty years of law enforcement research about how to keep things from becoming violent. They did exactly the opposite every time.
 
2020-07-18 11:13:11 PM  

zeaper12: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

I'm sure many scummy lawyers would agree.


Good! When those scummy lawyers are done giving BORTAC a forced colonoscopy, maybe they will decide not to get involved in this kind of crap again.
 
2020-07-18 11:18:54 PM  

TheVirginMarty: The fun part is how weird the video that riled everyone up is.

Why did only two guys walk up? Why did they single out one person out of three? How did the one person know it was him they were after? Are these also telepathic police? If silent men walk up and try to abscond with him, why did he walk with them? Where is the typical protester I have rights screaming? Why didn't he question or resist?


Drones...
 
2020-07-18 11:27:22 PM  

fusillade762: Good.  Get the farking gestapo out of my city.


They should order the police to patrol and arrest the Feds on sight, and then fire anyone who doesn't show up to work.
 
2020-07-18 11:31:47 PM  

Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
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Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.


You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.
 
2020-07-18 11:41:59 PM  
It's called an unlawful order.
 
2020-07-18 11:53:55 PM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.


The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
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/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.
 
2020-07-19 12:18:11 AM  

Dryad: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Dryad: poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.

Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
-
Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.

You DO know who I am, right?

I alone am proof that your little theory is bullshiat.

The 'theory' that there is a chunk of the left actively opposing firearms ownership is bullshiat? Really.
Lots of lefties own guns. Very few are allowed to admit it for fear of reprisals from their own organizations.
If you are not in that position, fine, but understand you are not typical.
-
/fact remains, the left will not be as prepared to defend ourselves as the fascists and magats are to target us.


I'm one of the biggest lefties on this site, AND I MADE ALL THE GUNS THESE IDIOTS ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH.

I have never once been accused of being a fascist over that, except by right-wing trolls.

You live in a fantasy world.
 
2020-07-19 12:33:43 AM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: Wadded Beef: I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.

Slashing the tires might take too much time. Risk discovery. Set some caltrops at the tires and GTFO.


I like this better. As they move out: sudden indignities.
 
2020-07-19 12:34:11 AM  
Good, hope the feds continue to do the job local police won't.
 
2020-07-19 12:47:03 AM  

Katolu: Just a matter of time before people will be dragged out of their homes. Drump has to keep escalating until the victims push back.


We are pushing back. Just not violently
 
2020-07-19 12:52:43 AM  

Baloo Uriza: iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.

Give you a hint, and the right answer sounds like a wet bird hitting a window.


Splatplop?
 
2020-07-19 12:54:26 AM  

abiigdog: Good, hope the feds continue to do the job local police won't.


I have you farkied as "against benefits for 9/11 first responders"
 
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