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2020-07-18 6:39:30 PM  
When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.
 
2020-07-18 6:39:36 PM  

Vacation Bible School: The tactical agents deployed by Homeland Security include officials from a group known as BORTAC


Very nice!... not

/sorry
 
2020-07-18 6:41:31 PM  
#PacificaStrong

Thank you, Portlandians. You've been demonstrating for nearly EIGHT WEEKS, and we've gone past a single incident of murder by cop into free speech, statues coming down, Mississippi's flag, the Redskins name change, international solidarity protests, "reimagining the police,"
and white people examining their own privileges.

You're setting the bar. Again, thank you.
 
2020-07-18 6:41:36 PM  

Vacation Bible School: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us​/​portland-protests.html

The federal agents facing a growing backlash for their militarized approach to weeks of unrest in Portland were not specifically trained in riot control or mass demonstrations, an internal Department of Homeland Security memo warned this week.

The message dated Thursday was prepared by the agency for Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, as he arrived in Portland to view the scene in person, according to a copy of the memo obtained by The New York Times. It listed federal buildings in the city and issues officers faced in protecting them.

The memo, seemingly anticipating future encounters with protesters in other cities as the department follows President Trump's guidance to crack down on unrest, warns: "Moving forward, if this type of response is going to be the norm, specialized training and standardized equipment should be deployed to responding agencies."

The tactical agents deployed by Homeland Security include officials from a group known as BORTAC, the Border Patrol's equivalent of a S.W.A.T. team, a highly trained group that normally is tasked with investigating drug smuggling organizations, as opposed to protesters in cities.


Yeah, he also said the reason they are not wearing name tags is to protect them and their families from retribution by these violent anarchists. So there you have it, the anonymity is intentional, to prevent identification.
 
2020-07-18 6:43:04 PM  
I'm sure the Oathkeepers are on this and will no doubt protect the citizenry and defend the Constitution just like they say.
 
2020-07-18 6:43:46 PM  

detonator: Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.


Oh, I know. You guys have the dildonians, after all. WA has Eastern WA, and CA has the Central Valley. Fortunately the mostly sane outnumber the "State of Jefferson" types.
 
2020-07-18 6:44:51 PM  

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


By kicking out the Feds?  Absolutely.
 
2020-07-18 6:47:32 PM  

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


My guess is, fascist criminal pedo-protector bill barr or Nazi Schweinhund stephen miller.
 
2020-07-18 6:48:49 PM  

leviosaurus: //Pacifica gonna Pacifica


So, fog, mostly newb or tourist surfers, and traffic caused by terrified tourists who ffs can't drive their damned rental at the damned speed limit because OMG the road actually curves?

Oooooo, you mean the new country that needs to happen.  I don't mind the name, but kinda think it is a mistake to leave the inherent almost infinite brand value of the name "California" off the label... "California Coastal Republic" or something?
 
2020-07-18 6:49:12 PM  

leviosaurus: detonator: Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.

Oh, I know. You guys have the dildonians, after all. WA has Eastern WA, and CA has the Central Valley. Fortunately the mostly sane outnumber the "State of Jefferson" types.


A large percentage of the dildodians at Malheur were from out of state, but they did have plenty of support locally, especially from law enforcement.
 
2020-07-18 6:50:36 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: the Federal Bureau of Statistics doesn't count


But they estimate real good!
 
2020-07-18 6:50:50 PM  
Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....
Youtube onmsFzEtK7U
 
2020-07-18 6:50:52 PM  

Derek Force: I'm fearful that nothing will happen because of this.

But I really hope they get those farks out of the state.  This is absolute bullshiat.


Oh, something is going to happen. DHS has already said this will be rolled out to the other cities.
 
2020-07-18 6:52:09 PM  
Let's talk about Portland again and manuals....
Youtube onmsFzEtK7U
 
2020-07-18 6:54:04 PM  
The fun part is how weird the video that riled everyone up is.

Why did only two guys walk up? Why did they single out one person out of three? How did the one person know it was him they were after? Are these also telepathic police? If silent men walk up and try to abscond with him, why did he walk with them? Where is the typical protester I have rights screaming? Why didn't he question or resist?
 
2020-07-18 6:55:06 PM  

JonBuck: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U]


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2020-07-18 6:56:20 PM  
And when DHS replies with this:
pbs.twimg.comView Full Size



Then what?
 
2020-07-18 6:57:27 PM  

poppaskwat: When 1st amendment efforts fail, 2nd amendment solutions follow.

More people are going to die before this is over.


Too bad the left has a small fringe group of nutbags who take it upon themselves to run around stigmatizing gun ownership among the left and trying to diligently ensure ONLY the Nazis get to have guns.
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Not that the left doesn't quietly own guns too, just that none of us is allowed to say anything about it.
/Which means we will not be nearly as prepared when they start coming for us.
 
2020-07-18 6:58:47 PM  

TheVirginMarty: The fun part is how weird the video that riled everyone up is.

Why did only two guys walk up? Why did they single out one person out of three? How did the one person know it was him they were after? Are these also telepathic police? If silent men walk up and try to abscond with him, why did he walk with them? Where is the typical protester I have rights screaming? Why didn't he question or resist?


It's a triple double secret reverse true flag situation?
 
2020-07-18 6:59:45 PM  

Koodz: I'm really surprised one of those little four man minivan squads hasn't already been encircled by protesters and removed from circulation.


They've been very careful to wait til things start to really thin out before making their move.
 
2020-07-18 7:00:17 PM  

JonBuck: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]


In case anyone is curious:

Here's the manual.
 
2020-07-18 7:04:25 PM  

SFSailor: JonBuck: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

In case anyone is curious:

Here's the manual.


I gotta say that when I saw the first video of that guy yesterday I was a little put off by his curious George hat and the way he was pronouncing "Eamon DeValera",but I admit that he's a sharp cat.
Never heard of him before this. Thanks to you guys for turning us on to him.
 
2020-07-18 7:04:58 PM  
Citizenship in US has alwasy been strange as there was a citizenship in a state or territory and federal citizenship at different times.  Original citizenship would be for a region like Connecticut western territory which would have been granted by the King but only land owners could vote so being a citizen didn't matter at all unless you were rich.  Later when the states became independent, they offered their own citizenship status between 1776 and 1789. The western territories didn't care what recent European arrivals showed up or how they got there which continued until the early 1900s for people who managed to avoid Ellis Island. States but not territories lost their ability to control immigration starting in 1875 for places like NY. That odd ball mess is why 8 congressional districts worth of people still have to fill out tax returns every year but can't vote as they are not residents of a state but are sill US citizens.  There is also strangeness of Indian tribes granting citizenship without federal blessing.  Things could get very interesting if Oregon decided to issue state citizenship to non-US citizens.
 
2020-07-18 7:06:31 PM  

iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.


No you don't.  We all know precisely who sent them in.
 
2020-07-18 7:09:20 PM  

wejash: and maybe end up in the hands of an armed right wing militia looking to make a white-ISIS video.


How many times has that happened?
 
2020-07-18 7:10:24 PM  
detonator:I gotta say that when I saw the first video of that guy yesterday I was a little put off by his curious George hat and the way he was pronouncing "Eamon DeValera",but I admit that he's a sharp cat.
Never heard of him before this. Thanks to you guys for turning us on to him.


Fark turned me on to him a few days (weeks? months? whothehellknows; time is weird right now) ago.

Dude is *sharp*.  And his presentation is brilliant -- the accent and setting definitely cut down any immediate "oh some book larnin' northern elite is gonna lecture _me_?" from some audiences that really need to hear it.  And his wardrobing is super thoughtful and clever-relevant to the topic, at least the last couple once I noticed it:

"Curious George" == "here are all these resources to learn. And they're free.  Go be curious."

The first time I noticed, I was all, "why is he wearing an Ireland shirt" --> "parallels between Portland and how the IRA ended up getting going and how it became decades of Troubles."

Between him and Liberal Redneck, I hope there are Peabody Awards / Grants / whatever-they-would-love-to-be-rewarde​d-withs heading their way.
 
2020-07-18 7:13:02 PM  

leviosaurus: detonator: Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.

Oh, I know. You guys have the dildonians, after all. WA has Eastern WA, and CA has the Central Valley. Fortunately the mostly sane outnumber the "State of Jefferson" types.


True, but as Robert Evans outlines in his podcast "It Could Happen Here", the rural population of California could, if they went full insurgent, cripple the transport corridors, agriglcultural and water supply to vulnerable urban areas.
 
2020-07-18 7:13:40 PM  

WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.


Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.
 
2020-07-18 7:14:52 PM  

DON.MAC: WilderKWight: These MAGA Stormtrumpers are also attacking medics.

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Dude on the ground was having a seizure. These thugs just showed up out of nowhere and attacked.

Fark with medics and you break rocks in at Leavenworth for a very long time.  Those are the UCMJ rules which should apply to everyone wearing a federal police uniform.


"Should" being the important word there.
 
2020-07-18 7:16:17 PM  

SFSailor: detonator:I gotta say that when I saw the first video of that guy yesterday I was a little put off by his curious George hat and the way he was pronouncing "Eamon DeValera",but I admit that he's a sharp cat.
Never heard of him before this. Thanks to you guys for turning us on to him.

Fark turned me on to him a few days (weeks? months? whothehellknows; time is weird right now) ago.

Dude is *sharp*.  And his presentation is brilliant -- the accent and setting definitely cut down any immediate "oh some book larnin' northern elite is gonna lecture _me_?" from some audiences that really need to hear it.  And his wardrobing is super thoughtful and clever-relevant to the topic, at least the last couple once I noticed it:

"Curious George" == "here are all these resources to learn. And they're free.  Go be curious."

The first time I noticed, I was all, "why is he wearing an Ireland shirt" --> "parallels between Portland and how the IRA ended up getting going and how it became decades of Troubles."

Between him and Liberal Redneck, I hope there are Peabody Awards / Grants / whatever-they-would-love-to-be-rewarde​d-withs heading their way.


I couldn't agree more. I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.
 
2020-07-18 7:17:43 PM
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2020-07-18 7:18:24 PM  
Good.  Get the farking gestapo out of my city.
 
2020-07-18 7:19:25 PM  

catmander: iheartscotch: You've really got to wonder who's bright idea sending in the goon squads was.

No you don't.  We all know precisely who sent them in.


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2020-07-18 7:25:06 PM  

detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.


I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)
 
2020-07-18 7:26:15 PM  

i_dig_chicks: Portland could have handled this better in the beginning and avoided all this.


You're absolutely right.  If Wheeler had made the PPD to stand down at the very beginning, which is what the protesters are demanding, we could have avoided the last 50 days of protests.  But he won't do that, so here we are.
 
2020-07-18 7:28:37 PM  

TWX: Just start taking citizen tips, then pull 'em over and arrest them for kidnapping.  That would actually go a long way towards restoring goodwill by the local police.



That would work if Portland city PD were not collaborators.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-07-18 7:30:20 PM  

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


Do you think that the Generals and the seniormost NCOs that put out statements that basically said uphold your oaths to the Constitution are going to go along with illegal orders like that?
 
2020-07-18 7:38:19 PM  

Wadded Beef: I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.


Bananas in the tailpipes?
 
2020-07-18 7:42:01 PM  
"Excuse me sir. Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT? 'Cause if it leaks to the VC he could end up MIA, and then we'd all be put on KP."

/Oblig.
 
2020-07-18 7:43:31 PM  

eiger: JonBuck: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/onmsFzEt​K7U?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

The problem with his argument is that Trump and the people around him WANT escalation. They're counting on it. It's their reelection strategy.


What escalation? The escalation is happening right now! They will literally detain everyone one at a time until everyone is detained for the elections.

That is the goal. You can't convict but you can illegally detain until it is too late. They have been ordered to free the children in detention, that gives them space for eating away at the fringes and scaring everyone else into complicity.

Why? Because they do not fear us. They know that the protesters are unarmed. There is no risk to them. They can literally shoot you in the head and nobody will return fire or even menace them with a bat.
 
2020-07-18 7:43:36 PM  

alechemist: Wadded Beef: I love the thought of these "Fa" stormtroopers sitting in their rented minivans and then realizing all of their tires are slashed.

Bananas in the tailpipes?


And you KNOW those dimwitted fascist goons *would* fall for a banana in the tailpipe!

I'd say, "just lie down in front of and behind the Enterprise Rent-a-Fascistovan, or handcuff yourself to it", but those farkers would almost certainly drive over anyone doing that.
 
2020-07-18 7:45:07 PM  

SFSailor: detonator: . I'll have to scour the background of his shop/set to see if he's got a copy of Utne Reader lying around, though.

I'm sure there's an espresso machine behind the camera.  As well as a plate of avocado toast. ; )

(And now I'm gonna be playing "scour the background" with every video, because I am _sure_ there are messages in it!)


Let's talk about how to watch this channel and 300,000 subscribers....
Youtube xzmbnUD09tw
 
2020-07-18 7:45:33 PM  
Could you imagine what would happen if Trump pulled this in Austin?
 
2020-07-18 7:47:55 PM  
Just a matter of time before people will be dragged out of their homes. Drump has to keep escalating until the victims push back.
 
2020-07-18 7:51:22 PM  

I_told_you_so: Could you imagine what would happen if Trump pulled this in Austin?


Alex Jones would be out in his tank yelling into his bullhorn at the protestors that they should submit to government tyranny?
 
2020-07-18 7:52:57 PM  

AirForceVet: I meant that the 2nd Amendment does not only apply to right wing militias, KKK and Nazis only in America.



I believe you are mistaken.  Those are the only people who have real gun rights, as per NRA guidelines.
 
2020-07-18 7:58:54 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: This is f*cking surreal.


Kind of, but not really.

/paid attention to everything Sarah Kendzior was practically shouting at us the past few years
 
2020-07-18 7:59:27 PM  
Good!!!  As far as I am concerned, the States are obligated to protect their people from outside agencies. If the State is unwilling to step up, the people will be forced to act.

If these events are true, the fed has completely and unabashedly crossed the line.
 
2020-07-18 8:04:28 PM  

detonator: leviosaurus: detonator: leviosaurus: Trump undoubtedly started this in Oregon, because it strikes him as a wimpy, easily pushed around state.

So I really hope Oregon kicks his ass and makes him their biatch.

#PacificaStrong

The prayer breakfast proudboy 3% puked haven't stopped anything yet. They've misinterpreted the amount of experience and passion the people resisting them have.
/Oregonian
//even more proud of the resistance
/// and very impressed by our political leaders here

Stand firm, brother.

/I think CA and WA should join the lawsuit, since they obvs want to roll this out to the rest of the Best Coast
//Pacifica gonna Pacifica

Don't kid yourself; If the trumpistas could hack off the I-5 corridor  from the rest of the coast, they would. There's plenty of rednecks around here, they just mostly sit in really small towns hours away from the corridor.


There aren't that many, but lot's of land.  Also, if they tried that...fine...keep them in their little burgs, no access to the coast or major medical centers, etc.   Let them stew over in Bundyland.
 
2020-07-18 8:06:18 PM  

PangolinPatientZero: And when DHS replies with this:
[pbs.twimg.com image 500x337]


Then what?


Uh, Oregon has an Army.
 
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