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(Slate)   Trump is once again trying to put his thumb on the scales with the 2020 census   (slate.com) divider line
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2020-07-17 6:10:26 PM  
Just gives Democrats enough evidence to justify using their own 'estimates' to adjust figures
 
2020-07-17 6:33:38 PM  
I thought the census was over?  I filled that out online way back at the end of March...
 
2020-07-17 6:48:14 PM  
His little thumb isn't going to do anything. Now if his fat ass were on the scale...
 
2020-07-17 7:03:34 PM  
By the time this gets litigated hopefully Trump will be long gone.
 
2020-07-17 8:39:51 PM  

IgG4: By the time this gets litigated hopefully Trump will be long gone.


I don't think he cares too much about final version. Main priority is to suppress minority participation, as a way of defunding blue states.

But he's doing it so blatantly and clumsily that Democratic admin will easily justify de-skewing the numbers to compensate
 
2020-07-17 10:46:23 PM  
How can anybody be so blatantly racist? I haven't ever heard an intelligent thought uttered by this man, but... just... Sorry, gotta run a minute.

/nausea
//i hope there is a FSM. Or some other power beyond mine
///cuz i feel powerless against this horror
 
2020-07-18 12:10:34 AM  

zeronewbury: How can anybody be so blatantly racist?


There's a Republican Senate that enables him because they're racists too.
 
2020-07-18 12:11:49 AM  
Just add one more thing to the list of shiat that the competent adults will have to fix when they are back in power in Washington.
 
2020-07-18 12:12:08 AM  
I mean, here we go again.

I'll assume it's illegal, and that nothing will be done.
 
2020-07-18 12:13:07 AM  
I mean it's morbid but I was wondering if we needed a 2021 census when(sigh, if) this pandemic settles. This is another reason to regardless.
 
2020-07-18 12:16:12 AM  

mjjt: Just gives Democrats enough evidence to justify using their own 'estimates' to adjust figures


"Estimates" for apportionment are unconstitutional. The Constitution requires an "actual enumeration."

"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."
 
2020-07-18 12:18:25 AM  
TFA is a trainwreck. The situation is genuinely troubling but the article takes a troubling situation & softens it by saying "they could do THIS or THIS or THIS" despite the fact that there is no indication which, if any, of those things will happen & combatting each of them requires radically different strategies so I guess we should be paralyzed with fear so we can ensure they all happen instead.
 
2020-07-18 12:18:49 AM  
FINALLY.

This is just as important as voting and who gets appointed to the courts.
 
2020-07-18 12:23:21 AM  
I mean, who could trust a COUNT?  OF PEOPLE!  Sounds like another dem hoax!
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2020-07-18 12:23:36 AM  

Alien Robot: mjjt: Just gives Democrats enough evidence to justify using their own 'estimates' to adjust figures

"Estimates" for apportionment are unconstitutional. The Constitution requires an "actual enumeration."

"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."


That's why you gerrymander based on the estimates & when you get called out on it, you say, "Nuh uh! According to the Census, this area has the exact same number of residents as this area"
 
2020-07-18 12:25:38 AM  

almandot: I mean it's morbid but I was wondering if we needed a 2021 census when(sigh, if) this pandemic settles. This is another reason to regardless.


Expect Dotard and company to do something to blue states and results should they lose the POTUS and Senate in Nov.
 
2020-07-18 12:26:22 AM  
Trump never met a number he didn't want to 'enhance.' It's like when Scotty gives Kirk a repair time estimate, only Trump does it with everything. Net worth $200 million? No, let's put down $10 billion (unless it's tax time). 136,000 dead? No, how about we call it 80k dead, maybe 50k, probably more accurate considering the fake news. Flushing low-flow toilets 3 times? No, twelve sounds more dramatic.

/3.5 inches? No babe, I'm telling you it's...
 
2020-07-18 12:38:19 AM  
Jesus Actual Christ, fark off you actual cheating grifters. Have you no shame? Have you no shame at all?
 
2020-07-18 12:42:18 AM  
Back to singing his old hits again I see.  Can't wait until he goes back into how he won in 2016 again...good times.
 
2020-07-18 12:43:14 AM  
"As of mid-July, only 62.1 percent of households nationally had responded to the census. If the remainder are to be counted"

Probably doesn't help that they have virtually no advertising or outreach, the initial census is a postcard asking you to go to a website, and with no major initiatives to let the public know this is how they're planning on doing it.

They're very deliberately botching this.
 
2020-07-18 12:43:18 AM  
Blue wave 2020.

Census year, redraw the districts.

Put Republicans out of power for the next decade.
 
2020-07-18 12:45:33 AM  
Sigh. My brother-in-law worked at Census for years. He is a total numbers nerd, and all his friends I met from there were the same. They take accuracy and thoroughness very seriously. This blatant attempt to muddy the results must be killing them.
 
2020-07-18 12:58:04 AM  
Trump's "thumb," sure.

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2020-07-18 12:58:46 AM  

casual disregard: Jesus Actual Christ, fark off you actual cheating grifters. Have you no shame? Have you no shame at all?


No... no, they don't.

/not even a little bit
 
2020-07-18 1:11:49 AM  
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At least it won't affect much.
 
2020-07-18 1:12:17 AM  
I got an email today from the census administration or something.  I deleted it.
 
2020-07-18 1:12:33 AM  

sirrerun: Trump's "thumb," sure.

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2020-07-18 1:12:36 AM  
In prior US presidencies, how often did you hear about any one president saying or doing something stupid every-single-day?

The correct answer is "none".
Enter the fat orange ape...
 
2020-07-18 1:32:38 AM  
Why fark with the census? They know having inaccurate numbers makes it harder for them to gerrymander, right?
 
2020-07-18 1:33:19 AM  

Alien Robot: mjjt: Just gives Democrats enough evidence to justify using their own 'estimates' to adjust figures

"Estimates" for apportionment are unconstitutional. The Constitution requires an "actual enumeration."

"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."


Ok thanks for that. But I'm sure the formulae they use to apportion revenues are not in Constitution, and can be adjusted at whim of Congress. And don't necessarily have to be consistent across all the states if can demonstrate that a clear undercount has occurred
 
2020-07-18 1:41:13 AM  
"Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.
 
2020-07-18 1:41:51 AM  

Insult Comic Bishounen: "Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.


"farker," not "farker."  C'mon, filter!
 
2020-07-18 1:46:27 AM  

Alien Robot: mjjt: Just gives Democrats enough evidence to justify using their own 'estimates' to adjust figures

"Estimates" for apportionment are unconstitutional. The Constitution requires an "actual enumeration."

"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."


Is it easy to type whilst your head is firmly wedged in your anus?
 
2020-07-18 1:51:00 AM  

Insult Comic Bishounen: Insult Comic Bishounen: "Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.

"farker," not "farker."  C'mon, filter!


perhaps you meant "farker"?
 
2020-07-18 1:52:59 AM  

New Farkin User Name: Insult Comic Bishounen: Insult Comic Bishounen: "Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.

"farker," not "farker."  C'mon, filter!

perhaps you meant "farker"?


(shakes fist at filter)
 
DVD
2020-07-18 1:56:13 AM  

Insult Comic Bishounen: New Farkin User Name: Insult Comic Bishounen: Insult Comic Bishounen: "Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.

"farker," not "farker."  C'mon, filter!

perhaps you meant "farker"?

(shakes fist at filter)


Only crying a little with laughter here, just a teardrop or three!
 
2020-07-18 1:57:33 AM  

OldRod: I thought the census was over?  I filled that out online way back at the end of March...


They sent me two forms to fill out. Probably a mistake, but I wasn't sure, so I filled them both out and returned them. Let them figure it out.
 
2020-07-18 2:00:52 AM  

LurkerSupreme: Trump never met a number he didn't want to 'enhance.' It's like when Scotty gives Kirk a repair time estimate, only Trump does it with everything. Net worth $200 million? No, let's put down $10 billion (unless it's tax time). 136,000 dead? No, how about we call it 80k dead, maybe 50k, probably more accurate considering the fake news. Flushing low-flow toilets 3 times? No, twelve sounds more dramatic.

/3.5 inches? No babe, I'm telling you it's...


Trump is the kind of asshole that measures in metric because it's a bigger number
 
2020-07-18 2:07:24 AM  

DVD: Insult Comic Bishounen: New Farkin User Name: Insult Comic Bishounen: Insult Comic Bishounen: "Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.

"farker," not "farker."  C'mon, filter!

perhaps you meant "farker"?

(shakes fist at filter)

Only crying a little with laughter here, just a teardrop or three!


Okay, this is sure to go through:  she calls him [foxtrot uniform charlie kilo tango alpha romeo delta].

Take that, inanimate code!
 
2020-07-18 3:06:27 AM  
So why is it wrong to ask if somebody is a citizen or not on a census form?  Don't we want to know that info?  If there are large populations of non citizens in an area, we should know.
 
2020-07-18 3:17:09 AM  

FarkQued: So why is it wrong to ask if somebody is a citizen or not on a census form?  Don't we want to know that info?  If there are large populations of non citizens in an area, we should know.


The census counts people. It exists to ensure proper representation of the amount of actual people of your district, not just citizens.
 
2020-07-18 3:22:15 AM  

dylanthomas: I mean, who could trust a COUNT?  OF PEOPLE!  Sounds like another dem hoax!
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Obviously the solution is for all true Americans to stick it to the libs by not participating in the Census.  That will show them.
 
2020-07-18 5:32:28 AM  

zeronewbury: How can anybody be so blatantly racist? I haven't ever heard an intelligent thought uttered by this man, but... just... Sorry, gotta run a minute.

/nausea
//i hope there is a FSM. Or some other power beyond mine
///cuz i feel powerless against this horror


I've come to realize that there isn't any higher power.  If only due to the fact that evil and cruel people (like Trump and this entire administration) continue to survive while decent people are killed or die in pain from disease.
 
2020-07-18 7:19:36 AM  

FarkQued: So why is it wrong to ask if somebody is a citizen or not on a census form?  Don't we want to know that info?  If there are large populations of non citizens in an area, we should know.


Why?
 
2020-07-18 8:19:12 AM  

Insult Comic Bishounen: New Farkin User Name: Insult Comic Bishounen: Insult Comic Bishounen: "Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.

"farker," not "farker."  C'mon, filter!

perhaps you meant "farker"?

(shakes fist at filter)


Did you mean f***er?
 
2020-07-18 8:27:21 AM  

FarkQued: So why is it wrong to ask if somebody is a citizen or not on a census form?  Don't we want to know that info?  If there are large populations of non citizens in an area, we should know.


The mission is to count all residents. That is the priority. Period. According to the Constitution, all residents need to be counted. But if you put a citizenship question on the form, it's been proven, it intimidates non-citizens and then they refuse to participate which results in an undercount. This compromises the constitutional direction or mandate laid out in the Constitution. It's been tried or proposed in the past and been rejected on these constitutional grounds

Now - there are many conservatives that quite accurately point out that this results in political representation for non-citizens, apportionment of valuable government resources for non-citizens. And they're right. But that's what The Framers intended. So, either propose a new constitutional amendment or accept the liberal intentions of The Framers.
 
2020-07-18 1:25:09 PM  
Which is fine because the last response rate I saw for red states had them down 10% over 2010. The under-count in those states will be... important to the outcome.
 
2020-07-18 6:20:38 PM  

Insult Comic Bishounen: New Farkin User Name: Insult Comic Bishounen: Insult Comic Bishounen: "Trump?" My mom always calls him farker.  And I'm cool with that.

"farker," not "farker."  C'mon, filter!

perhaps you meant "farker"?

(shakes fist at filter)


That filter sure is a little farker isn't it?
 
2020-07-18 11:51:44 PM  

mjjt: Alien Robot: mjjt: Just gives Democrats enough evidence to justify using their own 'estimates' to adjust figures

"Estimates" for apportionment are unconstitutional. The Constitution requires an "actual enumeration."

"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

Ok thanks for that. But I'm sure the formulae they use to apportion revenues are not in Constitution, and can be adjusted at whim of Congress. And don't necessarily have to be consistent across all the states if can demonstrate that a clear undercount has occurred


This is true. The "actual enumeration" only applies to apportionment for drawing up Congressional districts. You can use estimates for doling out money, enacting other laws, or whatever, just not apportioning seats in Congress.
 
2020-07-18 11:55:37 PM  

ProfessorBling: Alien Robot: mjjt: Just gives Democrats enough evidence to justify using their own 'estimates' to adjust figures

"Estimates" for apportionment are unconstitutional. The Constitution requires an "actual enumeration."

"The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

Is it easy to type whilst your head is firmly wedged in your anus?


I'm not quite sure what value a comment like this adds to the discussion. But, since I want everyone to see and understand what the level of discourse is like coming from the Democrat side, I won't complain to the mods.
 
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