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(The Local)   Latest data from Switzerland shows that only wearing a face shield does not prevent the spread of coronavirus but masks do   (thelocal.ch) divider line
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699 clicks; posted to Politics » on 16 Jul 2020 at 9:58 PM (14 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-07-16 4:24:54 PM  
That's what you would expect. Face shields are good at blocking large droplets like from a sneeze but they won't do much for the small suspended stuff.
 
2020-07-16 6:21:41 PM  
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2020-07-16 7:22:57 PM  
You wear a mask so you don't catch respiratory infections.

You wear a face shield so you don't catch grinder sparks.
 
2020-07-16 8:12:19 PM  
Duh.

Also, I knew a bunch of the pathetic people were going to immediately latch onto these face shield things. I can't wait until they're restricted so that you must STILL wear a mask with them.
 
2020-07-16 8:26:29 PM  

studebaker hoch: You wear a mask so you don't catch respiratory infections.

You wear a face shield so you don't catch grinder sparks.


They aren't only for industrial machinery. They also make sense as a layer in front of your other PPE if there's a chance of having bodily fluids projected in your direction (nurses, dentists, subby's mom, etc).
 
2020-07-16 10:04:53 PM  

Ivo Shandor: studebaker hoch: You wear a mask so you don't catch respiratory infections.

You wear a face shield so you don't catch grinder sparks.

They aren't only for industrial machinery. They also make sense as a layer in front of your other PPE if there's a chance of having bodily fluids projected in your direction (nurses, dentists, subby's mom, etc).


Yup.

Splash goggles and face shield.

And now a mask for 12 hours a day. Could be worse.

farking babies some of these people.
 
2020-07-16 10:07:47 PM  
Well shiat. I figured it would keep stuff you expel at least close by rather than spreading. Last I heard our district was planning on giving teachers face shields to help the kids who need lip movement cues. Since we are still planning on opening schools in most districts here.
 
2020-07-16 10:07:58 PM  
From Switzerland..the land of chocolate!

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And cuckoo clocks and chalets and watches and tax-sheltered bank accounts
 
2020-07-16 10:08:14 PM  
Oof, that's rough. And here I was hoping face shields would be an acceptable workaround for people with valid reasons for being unable to wear a mask. Broken bones in the face, that sort of thing.

Maybe Beekeeper helmets next?
 
2020-07-16 10:13:49 PM  
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2020-07-16 10:13:52 PM  

puffy999: Duh.

Also, I knew a bunch of the pathetic people were going to immediately latch onto these face shield things. I can't wait until they're restricted so that you must STILL wear a mask with them.


I WAS going to go for a face shield this fall. Apparently, I won't.
 
2020-07-16 10:17:58 PM  
Heard from a local teacher that face shields for the teachers and temporary supplies of face masks for kids was the only ppe plan in place around here.  So that's nice.  I should send the superintendent a copy of this study.  Anyone got a filled out federal ppe requisition form?  Do those exist?
 
2020-07-16 10:19:58 PM  

powhound: Well shiat. I figured it would keep stuff you expel at least close by rather than spreading. Last I heard our district was planning on giving teachers face shields to help the kids who need lip movement cues. Since we are still planning on opening schools in most districts here.


Yeah, this makes me sad - lot of the kids need to see whole faces.  Hell, who knows how this whole thing is affecting very young brain social development, given the limited facial cues from anyone but family.
 
2020-07-16 10:25:18 PM  
Well that sucks.
 
2020-07-16 10:27:06 PM  

AndTheyAllLived: powhound: Well shiat. I figured it would keep stuff you expel at least close by rather than spreading. Last I heard our district was planning on giving teachers face shields to help the kids who need lip movement cues. Since we are still planning on opening schools in most districts here.

Yeah, this makes me sad - lot of the kids need to see whole faces.  Hell, who knows how this whole thing is affecting very young brain social development, given the limited facial cues from anyone but family.


But it is protecting kids from seeing ugly people.

Well, unless it's family is ugly.

But then they would grow up with low expectations.
 
2020-07-16 10:29:18 PM  

powhound: Well shiat. I figured it would keep stuff you expel at least close by rather than spreading. Last I heard our district was planning on giving teachers face shields to help the kids who need lip movement cues. Since we are still planning on opening schools in most districts here.


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A plain face shield is better than nothing, but it's going to be more effective at preventing an infected person from transmitting their virus than it will be at protecting the wearer from someone else's death cloud.
 
2020-07-17 12:22:23 AM  

puffy999: Duh.

Also, I knew a bunch of the pathetic people were going to immediately latch onto these face shield things. I can't wait until they're restricted so that you must STILL wear a mask with them.


yukichigai: Oof, that's rough. And here I was hoping face shields would be an acceptable workaround for people with valid reasons for being unable to wear a mask. Broken bones in the face, that sort of thing.

Maybe Beekeeper helmets next?


i have COPD and got permission from my employer to just wear the face shield.  the mask is hard to breathe through for me and even with oxygen i get short of breath quickly. otoh i sure as hell don't want covid-19.
 
2020-07-17 3:06:39 AM  
Do you have these in the US? I've started to see them in Germany recently. They seem completely ineffective.

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2020-07-17 8:50:04 AM  
So... to all the people complaining about childhood facial cue recognition issues:

It is purely an art tradition of the West to focus emotional content on the human mouth.  With few exceptions, all other human cultures in the world focus on the eyes to read facial cues.

So maybe not being able to look at people's mouths is not actually as bad as you're making it out to be.

And I say this as a person who legitimately has a harder time understanding what people are saying if I'm not looking at their mouth too, so I recognize there are kids out there who will need extra attention to make that adjustment, and others who simply can't make it.  But I doubt wearing masks for a school year would have any meaningful statistical impact on childhood development.
 
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