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2020-07-16 8:28:26 AM  
I never thought I'd say "I hope Ferrari gets their shiat together" but they need to. There's no way they come to IndyCar when their F1 team is in the state it is now.
 
2020-07-16 8:32:40 AM  
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2020-07-16 8:36:13 AM  
Leclerc and the team both gave Seb separate proper farkings.
 
2020-07-16 8:55:23 AM  
What the hell happened? In LeClerc's first season, he seemed like he was destined to rule the entire field.
 
2020-07-16 8:59:17 AM  
Given the "clarifications" made about Ferrari's engine last season and that Ferrari managed to get whatever they'd done kept secret, I can't say that I'm all that sad about Ferrari's present difficulties.
 
2020-07-16 8:59:39 AM  

FlashHarry: What the hell happened? In LeClerc's first season, he seemed like he was destined to rule the entire field.


The team got busted for whatever illegality pushed their engine to the top of the heap last year. They've struggled mightily ever since.
 
2020-07-16 9:01:15 AM  

NINEv2: FlashHarry: What the hell happened? In LeClerc's first season, he seemed like he was destined to rule the entire field.

The team got busted for whatever illegality pushed their engine to the top of the heap last year. They've struggled mightily ever since.


This.  FTFA:  "The change in Ferrari's competitiveness comes after a series of rule clarifications on engine technicalities over the winter, and a private settlement between Ferrari and governing body the FIA."  I'm still surprised that the settlement's details haven't leaked yet.
 
2020-07-16 9:31:24 AM  

NINEv2: he team got busted for whatever illegality pushed their engine to the top of the heap last year. They've struggled mightily ever since.


Oh shiat. I didn't know that. Well... fark 'em then.
 
2020-07-16 9:55:25 AM  
Ferrari's worried about their car this year?

Jean Alesi laughs in F92 A...
 
2020-07-16 9:59:27 AM  
*sigh*

Will still fly my Tifosi flag w/pride

Just hope Sammich doesn't get the championship
 
2020-07-16 10:06:39 AM  

Kurohone: Jean Alesi


That's a name I've not heard since...
 
2020-07-16 10:14:09 AM  

baka-san: *sigh*

Will still fly my Tifosi flag w/pride

Just hope Sammich doesn't get the championship


If Merc's gearbox issues continue I'd say Mad Max has a decent shot at challenging for the Drivers' championship.
 
2020-07-16 11:29:03 AM  
I'd say they right proper farked because of they got caught "cheating" on their engine last year, but also because they probably decided to focus a lot of development effort for the next set of regulations that were due to start in 2021 while they were in an uncapped year. They knew they would take their lumps this year, but the upside of being way out in front for the next set of regulations where everyone else had to make strategic decisions on what to develop with limited budgets was too attractive. Then the corona virus SARS-COV-2 hit the world, and the current regulations got extended, and Ferrari now had to scramble to put together a car that wouldn't be a laughing stock for two years straight.

So yeah, they're proper farked this year, and next year. They might have a glimmer of hope starting in 2022, but they need to sort out their engine deficit fast.
 
2020-07-16 11:32:41 AM  

NINEv2: FlashHarry: What the hell happened? In LeClerc's first season, he seemed like he was destined to rule the entire field.

The team got busted for whatever illegality pushed their engine to the top of the heap last year. They've struggled mightily ever since.


Not just them, but any team with a Ferrari engine. I'll have to find the graphic I saw, but the qualifying times for the 1st Austria race were around a second off the pace compared to last year for Ferrari, Haas, and Alfa Romeo.
 
2020-07-16 12:07:29 PM  

NINEv2: I never thought I'd say "I hope Ferrari gets their shiat together" but they need to. There's no way they come to IndyCar when their F1 team is in the state it is now.


soopey: I'd say they right proper farked because of they got caught "cheating" on their engine last year, but also because they probably decided to focus a lot of development effort for the next set of regulations that were due to start in 2021 while they were in an uncapped year. They knew they would take their lumps this year, but the upside of being way out in front for the next set of regulations where everyone else had to make strategic decisions on what to develop with limited budgets was too attractive. Then the corona virus SARS-COV-2 hit the world, and the current regulations got extended, and Ferrari now had to scramble to put together a car that wouldn't be a laughing stock for two years straight.

So yeah, they're proper farked this year, and next year. They might have a glimmer of hope starting in 2022, but they need to sort out their engine deficit fast.


It's not like this hasn't happened to Ferrari in the past though. They've not been good for several years now as well. Not every team is perfect, but everyone always expects Ferrari to be. Mainly because a lot of Ferrari fans came on board during the really good Schumacher years.
 
2020-07-16 12:50:12 PM  

desertgeek: NINEv2: FlashHarry: What the hell happened? In LeClerc's first season, he seemed like he was destined to rule the entire field.

The team got busted for whatever illegality pushed their engine to the top of the heap last year. They've struggled mightily ever since.

Not just them, but any team with a Ferrari engine. I'll have to find the graphic I saw, but the qualifying times for the 1st Austria race were around a second off the pace compared to last year for Ferrari, Haas, and Alfa Romeo.


This. Both Alfas qualified behind Russell and his Williams for example. When Kimi qualifies behind a Williams driven by a newbie there is a problem.

/Which is a shame because Russell is talented and hopefully Williams will turn things around.
//But lots of top teams fade away and die. Lotus, Brabham, Tyrell were all powerful dominant teams that vanished.
///The Tyrell team is now doing rather better now that it is called "Mercedes".
 
2020-07-16 12:55:44 PM  

desertgeek: Not just them, but any team with a Ferrari engine. I'll have to find the graphic I saw, but the qualifying times for the 1st Austria race were around a second off the pace compared to last year for Ferrari, Haas, and Alfa Romeo.


Here's the graphic I saw. It's from a show F1 puts on their subscription service wrapping up the weekend's racing:

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Look at those bottom 3 teams. Six tenths, nine tenths, and 1.1 seconds slower while everyone else bar Red Bull was at least 0.3 seconds faster. And all 3 of those teams have the same drivers. Just awful.
 
2020-07-16 1:18:43 PM  

desertgeek: desertgeek: Not just them, but any team with a Ferrari engine. I'll have to find the graphic I saw, but the qualifying times for the 1st Austria race were around a second off the pace compared to last year for Ferrari, Haas, and Alfa Romeo.

Here's the graphic I saw. It's from a show F1 puts on their subscription service wrapping up the weekend's racing:

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Look at those bottom 3 teams. Six tenths, nine tenths, and 1.1 seconds slower while everyone else bar Red Bull was at least 0.3 seconds faster. And all 3 of those teams have the same drivers. Just awful.


I wonder if Carlos is still happy about leaving McLaren and moving to Ferrari? They'll have the same engine and same rules next season.
Rumours that Vettel might to go Aston Martin, as Racing Point will become next year, and that Perez will be the one to lose his seat because Stroll's dad owns the team. Which would be a huge shame because Perez is a good driver and deserves a decent car. But then so does Seb.
 
2020-07-16 1:29:37 PM  
As a slight off topic, but still European motorsports related, Motogp is back this weekend at Jerez. AANNNNNNNNDDD it got picked up for distribution by NBCSN. They're not showing this Sunday's round live, there is a rebroadcast at 7:30 PM EDT
 
2020-07-16 1:36:39 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Rumours that Vettel might to go Aston Martin, as Racing Point will become next year, and that Perez will be the one to lose his seat because Stroll's dad owns the team. Which would be a huge shame because Perez is a good driver and deserves a decent car. But then so does Seb.


That would mean the Strolls don't need the money Perez brings in with him from his Mexican sponsors. I find that a bit hard to believe.
 
2020-07-16 2:02:52 PM  
Last week it was Seb to Williams, which would become BMW.  This week it's Seb to Racing Point as they transition to AM.

I think the German motor press is trying to give the British an Italians a run for their money on rumor-mongering.
 
2020-07-16 3:24:23 PM  

desertgeek: Carter Pewterschmidt: Rumours that Vettel might to go Aston Martin, as Racing Point will become next year, and that Perez will be the one to lose his seat because Stroll's dad owns the team. Which would be a huge shame because Perez is a good driver and deserves a decent car. But then so does Seb.

That would mean the Strolls don't need the money Perez brings in with him from his Mexican sponsors. I find that a bit hard to believe.


If their performance continues to produce good results and they sign a four times champion then they should be able to get a sponsor to replace Chico's money.
 
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