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(MSN)   Coronavirus patient tests positive for a second time but that doesn't mean she was reinfected. We can only hope   (msn.com) divider line
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1615 clicks; posted to Main » on 16 Jul 2020 at 8:50 AM (3 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-07-16 7:44:46 AM  
Still trusting those "test" results, eh?
HaHa
 
2020-07-16 8:28:49 AM  
Her doctor ordered her to stay positive.
 
2020-07-16 8:43:42 AM  
Worthless article. It's documented that the PCR test can be positive when only detecting fragments of the virus, when it is impossible to cultivate actual live virus. The way this affects the lungs, it's possible that one would experience a second wave of symptoms when the lungs start to clean out damaged and infected tissue if that puts lots of dead virus into the blood stream. Your immune system would be attacking the dead stuff and give you flu-like symptoms.

Beyond all that, let's differentiate between some things. As a public health issue, we worry about what percentage of people can be re-infected (or have hiding virus reactivate an infection). If reinfection only happens in a small percentage of people, that isn't that big a deal. If reactivation occurs, that is a big deal. As a personal health issue, sure, you want to know if you are safe and how safe.

On the reinfection issue, we can look at the big picture and say it can't be that common or we would have thousands of documented examples by now. But we'll have to keep waiting to know how "safe" one is a year after recovery.
 
2020-07-16 9:07:09 AM  
When my wife was tested, they told us there was about a 15% chance it could come back as a false negative.... Meaning a negative test really doesn't mean all that much.

Maybe that was a different type of test, (it was the nose swab thing)?
 
2020-07-16 9:09:01 AM  
if immunity is 99.9% effective, there will still be thousands of people at risk of becoming reinfected in the US alone.

news articles about singular random people possibly getting reinfected are not proof that long-term immunity to the virus is not possible.
 
2020-07-16 9:11:22 AM  
It's fake! It's 15 cases and in two weeks it'll be zero. Just the regular flu. Here take this magic pill.
 
2020-07-16 9:25:31 AM  

dumbobruni: if immunity is 99.9% effective, there will still be thousands of people at risk of becoming reinfected in the US alone.

news articles about singular random people possibly getting reinfected are not proof that long-term immunity to the virus is not possible.


THIS.  My sister got chicken pox twice.  That doesn't mean that a majority of people will get chicken pox twice.  But nobody will click on a boring article like that and few people will pay for their journalism, so we all get the shiatty inflammatory clickbait that we deserve.
 
2020-07-16 9:28:20 AM  

dumbobruni: if immunity is 99.9% effective, there will still be thousands of people at risk of becoming reinfected in the US alone.

news articles about singular random people possibly getting reinfected are not proof that long-term immunity to the virus is not possible.


Sure, it isn't proof of that, but when my coworker got infected a second time last week it sure wasn't proof of the opposite either. She was sick for a month straight, then perfectly 100% healthy for 3 months straight..... then she hung out with one of her friends, who told her a few days after they hung out that she just got tested positive and soon after my coworker came down with symptoms again (much milder the second time around).

There's a lot we don't know still, but there have been a LOT of reports of this happening, and some of them seem to be legit second infections. So it does seem like it's possible. How likely? That we don't know yet.
 
2020-07-16 10:11:02 AM  
Hypochondriac internet attention hoor / aspiring actress gets tested every ten days and the rest of have to stand in line to get one test.
 
2020-07-16 10:15:37 AM  
Those pesky antibodies..
 
2020-07-16 10:25:53 AM  
These anecdotes don't mean much. If you have a test with even a nice low 0.1% false positive rate and you a million people, you would have 1,000 false positives. A lot of those 1,000 people will have some other illness (after all, they fit tested for a reason) and some of them will get a genuine COVID-19 infection later (after all, there is a lot of it around). In short, don't panic yet.
 
2020-07-16 10:44:47 AM  

wademh: Worthless article. It's documented that the PCR test can be positive when only detecting fragments of the virus, when it is impossible to cultivate actual live virus. The way this affects the lungs, it's possible that one would experience a second wave of symptoms when the lungs start to clean out damaged and infected tissue if that puts lots of dead virus into the blood stream. Your immune system would be attacking the dead stuff and give you flu-like symptoms.

Beyond all that, let's differentiate between some things. As a public health issue, we worry about what percentage of people can be re-infected (or have hiding virus reactivate an infection). If reinfection only happens in a small percentage of people, that isn't that big a deal. If reactivation occurs, that is a big deal. As a personal health issue, sure, you want to know if you are safe and how safe.

On the reinfection issue, we can look at the big picture and say it can't be that common or we would have thousands of documented examples by now. But we'll have to keep waiting to know how "safe" one is a year after recovery.


Coronavirus isn't going away, libs!
 
2020-07-16 10:50:52 AM  

FLMountainMan: dumbobruni: if immunity is 99.9% effective, there will still be thousands of people at risk of becoming reinfected in the US alone.

news articles about singular random people possibly getting reinfected are not proof that long-term immunity to the virus is not possible.

THIS.  My sister got chicken pox twice.  That doesn't mean that a majority of people will get chicken pox twice.  But nobody will click on a boring article like that and few people will pay for their journalism, so we all get the shiatty inflammatory clickbait that we deserve.


.... Umm you do realize that at 60 you are supposed to get the chickenpox/shingles vaccine again right? Like its very likely to get chickenpox twice in life.  Plus chickenpox is a DNA virus meaning immune response is usually longer lasting than RNA virus.
But hey, you did this on purpose because you knew all this and were telling a joke right?
 
2020-07-16 11:33:42 AM  

Splinthar: FLMountainMan: dumbobruni: if immunity is 99.9% effective, there will still be thousands of people at risk of becoming reinfected in the US alone.

news articles about singular random people possibly getting reinfected are not proof that long-term immunity to the virus is not possible.

THIS.  My sister got chicken pox twice.  That doesn't mean that a majority of people will get chicken pox twice.  But nobody will click on a boring article like that and few people will pay for their journalism, so we all get the shiatty inflammatory clickbait that we deserve.

.... Umm you do realize that at 60 you are supposed to get the chickenpox/shingles vaccine again right? Like its very likely to get chickenpox twice in life.  Plus chickenpox is a DNA virus meaning immune response is usually longer lasting than RNA virus.
But hey, you did this on purpose because you knew all this and were telling a joke right?


Sorry, forgot most of the rest of Fark are boomers and might interpret it this way.  My sister is in her thirties and got chickenpox twice in ten years in her teens/twenties.

But thanks for explaining immunology to me.
 
2020-07-16 2:32:40 PM  
Let me know when there are more than 1-off reports. There are people that catch things more than once that most people don't, like chicken pox. Less than 1% never means 100%. Unless the media tells you about it.

PLEASE CLICK AND READ MY ARTICLE AND FIND OUT HOW YOU WILL DIE TOMORROW!!!!
 
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