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2020-07-15 8:42:34 PM  
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How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby
 
2020-07-15 8:53:59 PM  
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2020-07-15 11:05:42 PM  
WHAT WAS ALL THAT shiat ABOUT VIET NAM?
 
2020-07-16 1:18:44 AM  

BadReligion: [Fark user image image 850x637]


I came here for The Dude, and I leave satisfied.
 
2020-07-16 2:10:45 AM  
Paraquat?

Man, I'm old. Who tf knows what Paraquat is in 2020?
 
2020-07-16 2:13:42 AM  
Haven't heard of paraquat since The Rockford Files went off the air.

Damn, now I'm missing The Rockford Files.
 
2020-07-16 2:27:01 AM  
Paraquat was what, 1978?

That was pre-everything.
 
2020-07-16 2:27:54 AM  

cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby


That's not weed.

This is weed:

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2020-07-16 2:41:45 AM  
FTA: "Garden Remedies said in a statement that it fired the employees involved - whose actions were unknown to the executive team."

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2020-07-16 3:05:01 AM  
Paraquat gets you farked up brah.
 
2020-07-16 3:05:33 AM  

studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

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What the hell strain is that?
 
2020-07-16 3:11:13 AM  

studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]


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2020-07-16 3:21:06 AM  

lamric: studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]

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I wish I had thought to take a pic of my friend's first grow. Huge flowers that fingered out. He had OG, though, and that pic looks like a very nice purple.

/I miss GDP so bad
 
2020-07-16 3:23:34 AM  

studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image image 850x835]


Looks more like a broken kaleidoscope to me. ;)

As for TFA: The US is one of the last 1st World countries to still allow sale/use of parquat.

It is truly toxic. Exposure to it is heavily associated with Parkinsons disease, and has been used to commit suicide. It is *that* toxic.

Those responsible for its use should be banned from working with cannabis. The fines are a good warning, and I am glad testing caught the substance.

The legal system is working, and this is proof positive of this!
 
2020-07-16 3:30:03 AM  

studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image image 850x835]


That's not weed.
That's dryer lint.
 
2020-07-16 3:32:02 AM  
My local dispensary has a strain called Velvet Purps right now, and it looks so goddamned amazing; wish I'd taken a picture, but this is close:
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2020-07-16 3:37:09 AM  

studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]


isnt half of that mold?
ive seen skittles, and its a beautiful, colorful thing, ive also seen moldy old stock
 
2020-07-16 3:42:35 AM  

Rusty Trommbone: studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]

isnt half of that mold?
ive seen skittles, and its a beautiful, colorful thing, ive also seen moldy old stock



I have seen moldy weed but I don't think this is it.

To be clear, it's just a photo I copied.
 
2020-07-16 3:44:56 AM  

Rusty Trommbone: studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]

isnt half of that mold?
ive seen skittles, and its a beautiful, colorful thing, ive also seen moldy old stock


I see no mold. Purple, sugar leaves, and a fair amount of dusting. The trimmers handled it a little too much, but you see that when it's Xmas tree like that.

The lighting looks like it's blue-heavy LED. My rope lights give my weed that odd tint quality.

My sole critique is the hairs suggest it was harvested a bit late. You generally want a 50/50 split red and white/green.
 
2020-07-16 3:45:53 AM  
honestly, i cant tell by pics anymore, its a hands on thing. theres also "hot hemp", where bulk hemp buds get sprayed, and people think its giant killer nugs
 
2020-07-16 3:48:22 AM  

Peki: The trimmers handled it a little too much, but you see that when it's Xmas tree like that.



You can get that same "tumbled" effect when the product has changed hands a few times.
 
2020-07-16 3:49:19 AM  

Peki: Rusty Trommbone: studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]

isnt half of that mold?
ive seen skittles, and its a beautiful, colorful thing, ive also seen moldy old stock

I see no mold. Purple, sugar leaves, and a fair amount of dusting. The trimmers handled it a little too much, but you see that when it's Xmas tree like that.

The lighting looks like it's blue-heavy LED. My rope lights give my weed that odd tint quality.

My sole critique is the hairs suggest it was harvested a bit late. You generally want a 50/50 split red and white/green.


yeah, closer look. wow. im just jealous. i never get blue
 
2020-07-16 3:59:39 AM  

Peki: Rusty Trommbone: studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]

isnt half of that mold?
ive seen skittles, and its a beautiful, colorful thing, ive also seen moldy old stock

I see no mold. Purple, sugar leaves, and a fair amount of dusting. The trimmers handled it a little too much, but you see that when it's Xmas tree like that.

The lighting looks like it's blue-heavy LED. My rope lights give my weed that odd tint quality.

My sole critique is the hairs suggest it was harvested a bit late. You generally want a 50/50 split red and white/green.


Huh. Wouldn't have pegged you as a grower.

How's your health, by the way? Over the testing scare?
 
2020-07-16 4:01:16 AM  
i think i should go back to class, so, as a good bud dries, how does it affect the potency? i have one beauty, that looks like its sweating crystals, and an old boy, dry, well maintained, old boy seems stronger.
i know strain has an effect, i guess my question is how does drying really affect final nug?
 
2020-07-16 4:53:17 AM  
Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission.  I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.
 
2020-07-16 5:15:06 AM  

tirob: Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission.  I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.


Sucks for your narrative, but it seems as if properly written government regulations work for cannabis just like they do for any other agricultural product.
 
2020-07-16 5:51:01 AM  

Rusty Trommbone: i think i should go back to class, so, as a good bud dries, how does it affect the potency? i have one beauty, that looks like its sweating crystals, and an old boy, dry, well maintained, old boy seems stronger.
i know strain has an effect, i guess my question is how does drying really affect final nug?


Drying is just part of it. Curing is where the magic comes in and the THC is transformed into a usable form.
 
2020-07-16 6:55:22 AM  
Massachusetts has hundreds of millions of dollars in legal marijuana sales per year. Is half a million in fines really going to change anything, or will the pot companies absorb the hit, blame/fire some low tier chumps, and vow to get better at not getting caught?

"Garden Remedies said in a statement that it fired the employees involved - whose actions were unknown to the executive team"
 
2020-07-16 7:17:50 AM  

tirob: Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission.  I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.


What control does cartel weed have in place to monitor this? None.

Legalised cannabis came with these controls, and the control seems to be working, as TFA is evidence of.

Produce farmers face more or less similar control, yet things like e-coli still manage to poison people. The reason for the controls is to catch it early enough to minimise harm to the public, not to ensure that it *never* happens.

TFA is evidence that legal cannabis is safer than cartel cannabis - a close eye is kept on one, but not the other.
 
2020-07-16 7:42:04 AM  
So they got fined two days worth of sales?
 
2020-07-16 8:13:18 AM  
So, how's that "legalizing weed to keep the Feds from screwing with the supply" working out for y'all?
 
2020-07-16 8:15:14 AM  
Where I live the same thing probably close to 99% of them are not following the law.

Not sure of the number now but when it first opened up there was like 1 officially licensed but like 100 were open.
 
2020-07-16 8:42:03 AM  

Resident Muslim: Huh. Wouldn't have pegged you as a grower.

How's your health, by the way? Over the testing scare?


I don't think I can rightly be called a grower. I've wanted to be, that's for sure, and I've definitely done my time trimming. But I've only had my own once due to lack of my own space. 

As far as I can tell I've fully recovered. So maybe I didn't have covid after all. Had something though. Got a work order on Monday but I was trying not to work outside the home to protect my family. Keep your fingers crossed I don't bring something back to my granddad.
 
2020-07-16 9:08:58 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: tirob: Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission.  I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.

Sucks for your narrative, but it seems as if properly written government regulations work for cannabis just like they do for any other agricultural product.


The use of stuff like Myclobutanil is pretty widespread among weed growers, and the retailers know it.  You're naive if you don't think that retailers reckon the fines such as the ones described in TFA as a cost of doing business.

PS:  Retailers can get away with the kinds of shenanigans described in TFA because the people who make up the market by and large don't give a sh*t whether the weed they buy is tainted as long as the stuff gets them high.  This was true before legalization, and it's just as true now.  The high percentages of the markets in legal jurisdictions that are still controlled by illegal distributors are conclusive proof of that.


https://www.fark.com/comments/1086015​9​/Yet-another-Canadian-marijuana-produc​er-announces-shutdowns-layoffs-that-ar​e-in-no-way-related-to-fact-that-its-m​erchandise-is-losing-out-in-marketplac​e-to-unregulated-untaxed-weed-that-is-​put-out-by-black-marketers

uttertosh: tirob: Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission. I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.

What control does cartel weed have in place to monitor this? None.

Legalised cannabis came with these controls, and the control seems to be working, as TFA is evidence of.


You have it backwards.  TFA is evidence that legal growers are still using banned pesticides and fungicides, and that retailers are well aware of that, but that they're buying tainted weed for resale anyway.
 
2020-07-16 9:15:51 AM  

studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]


not in 2020 it's not. 
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2020-07-16 11:08:06 AM  
Another name I haven't heard in awhile.

If somebody named Reagan decides to run for president, I might have to nope out of the rest of 2020.
 
2020-07-16 11:48:51 AM  
A fine fine example of
The more thigns change, the more they stay the same.


Who helms this business up? Anyone know if this is some old boomer school underhanded business or is this the new millennial woke version of underhanded business as usual?
OR some otehr stop in between that claims a different label but is still indistinguishable from all the rest before and after them anyway?
 
2020-07-16 11:59:46 AM  

PvtStash: A fine fine example of
The more thigns change, the more they stay the same.


Who helms this business up? Anyone know if this is some old boomer school underhanded business or is this the new millennial woke version of underhanded business as usual?
OR some otehr stop in between that claims a different label but is still indistinguishable from all the rest before and after them anyway?


The Food and Drug Administration was stood up to enforce the laws enacted in the early 20th Century mandating businesses do quality control on their products and not sell snake oil.  If you want smoke marijuana safely, hippies, bite the bullet and demand pot shops be put under FDA scrutiny.  This isn't a radical idea, the FDA's been around for a hundred years.
 
2020-07-16 12:12:52 PM  

jjorsett: Haven't heard of paraquat since The Rockford Files went off the air.

Damn, now I'm missing The Rockford Files.

Marijuana Growers Union SNL
Youtube V2CU1cdTlQE
 
2020-07-16 12:23:13 PM  
Here's a current shot. About halfway through veg,6 weeks to flower
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2020-07-16 12:47:03 PM  

tirob: common sense is an oxymoron: tirob: Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission.  I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.

Sucks for your narrative, but it seems as if properly written government regulations work for cannabis just like they do for any other agricultural product.

The use of stuff like Myclobutanil is pretty widespread among weed growers, and the retailers know it.  You're naive if you don't think that retailers reckon the fines such as the ones described in TFA as a cost of doing business.


The same thing is true about farmers using chemicals on their "organic" produce.  For that matter, every commodity on the planet can be tainted in one way or another.  You have no point.

And no matter how many times you repeat your BS PS, it's still BS.
 
2020-07-16 12:50:36 PM  

Mouser: If you want smoke marijuana safely, hippies, bite the bullet and demand pot shops be put under FDA scrutiny.


Excellent suggestion, because weed users have traditionally insisted that the stuff they smoke be free of unhealthful pesticides and fungicides.
 
2020-07-16 1:26:35 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: tirob: common sense is an oxymoron: tirob: Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission. I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.

Sucks for your narrative, but it seems as if properly written government regulations work for cannabis just like they do for any other agricultural product.

The use of stuff like Myclobutanil is pretty widespread among weed growers, and the retailers know it. You're naive if you don't think that retailers reckon the fines such as the ones described in TFA as a cost of doing business.

The same thing is true about farmers using chemicals on their "organic" produce. For that matter, every commodity on the planet can be tainted in one way or another.


In the case of Myclobutanil, for example, no, it's not the same.  Myclobutanil is safe to eat in small quantities, which means that, say, table grapes that have been treated with it are probably not going to hurt you.  But it's extremely unsafe to inhale it after it's heated, which means that it's unsafe to smoke weed that has been treated with it.

https://www.courthousenews.com/pot-sm​o​kers-warn-of-cyanide-from-pesticide/

The depth and breadth of your knowledge of this subject is a rarity, even by the standards that prevail here on Fark.
 
2020-07-16 3:21:24 PM  

tirob: common sense is an oxymoron: tirob: common sense is an oxymoron: tirob: Fine work by the Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission. I'm sure this will deter weed producers from distributing tainted product in the future.

Sucks for your narrative, but it seems as if properly written government regulations work for cannabis just like they do for any other agricultural product.

The use of stuff like Myclobutanil is pretty widespread among weed growers, and the retailers know it. You're naive if you don't think that retailers reckon the fines such as the ones described in TFA as a cost of doing business.

The same thing is true about farmers using chemicals on their "organic" produce. For that matter, every commodity on the planet can be tainted in one way or another.

In the case of Myclobutanil, for example, no, it's not the same.  Myclobutanil is safe to eat in small quantities, which means that, say, table grapes that have been treated with it are probably not going to hurt you.  But it's extremely unsafe to inhale it after it's heated, which means that it's unsafe to smoke weed that has been treated with it.

https://www.courthousenews.com/pot-smo​kers-warn-of-cyanide-from-pesticide/

The depth and breadth of your knowledge of this subject is a rarity, even by the standards that prevail here on Fark.


Why, thank you.

Does your belief that myclobutanil is safe to eat in small quantities mean that you're willing to eat unwashed table grapes from a factory farm?  Or would you wash them anyway, knowing that grapes, like cannabis, can be treated with other hazardous substances?  If the former, then you're an idiot; if the latter, a hypocrite.
 
2020-07-16 3:26:57 PM  
It is so much more safe buying legal pot!
In the 70's, the DEA and their allies did arial spraying of large pot grows (DC-3s, choppers, etc.).
The growers would quickly harvest the crop before the leaves shriveled up and sell it .
You do NOT want to smoke pot with -cides! All harsh from the lips to the lungs. Nasty!
It was not uncommon to buy pot that was tainted - (uppers, downers, even heroin).

If you don't grow your own, the safest stuff comes from a budtender.
 
2020-07-16 3:57:43 PM  

BrerRobot: studebaker hoch: cretinbob: [Fark user image 425x566]
How to make sure your weed is chemical free
//paraquat is an herbicide, subby

That's not weed.

This is weed:

[Fark user image 850x835]

not in 2020 it's not. 
[images.squarespace-cdn.com image 850x566]



Where did you get that picture?
 
2020-07-16 4:01:07 PM  

tirob: Mouser: If you want smoke marijuana safely, hippies, bite the bullet and demand pot shops be put under FDA scrutiny.

Excellent suggestion, because weed users have traditionally insisted that the stuff they smoke be free of unhealthful pesticides and fungicides.


*snert* Hey, look, the broken clock happened to be right today!
 
2020-07-16 4:02:07 PM  
Never mind, I found it.

Diamond mining with live resin

/ Ed Rosenthal is the Owsley Stanley of weed.
 
2020-07-16 4:04:07 PM  

tirob: You have it backwards.  TFA is evidence that legal growers are still using banned pesticides and fungicides, and that retailers are well aware of that, but that they're buying tainted weed for resale anyway.


Thank you for posting, you've done me a great service. I had a song I wanted to get unstuck from my head, and after reading your post I've managed to replace the song with 'tainted love.'

*bump bump*

"Tainted weed!"

*bump bump*
 
2020-07-16 5:59:02 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron:

In the case of Myclobutanil, for example, no, it's not the same.  Myclobutanil is safe to eat in small quantities, which means that, say, table grapes that have been treated with it are probably not going to hurt you.  But it's extremely unsafe to inhale it after it's heated, which means that it's unsafe to smoke weed that has been treated with it.

https://www.courthousenews.com/pot-smo​kers-warn-of-cyanide-from-pesticide/

Does your belief that myclobutanil is safe to eat in small quantities mean that you're willing to eat unwashed table grapes from a factory farm?  Or would you wash them anyway, knowing that grapes, like cannabis, can be treated with other hazardous substances?


I'd wash fruit before eating it.  But I'd resign myself to the idea that I'd wind up ingesting tiny amounts of myclobutanil even so.  It's relatively harmless as long as it's not set on fire.

Would you wash weed before smoking it?  Might not be a bad idea given that even legal producers have been known to sneak myclobutanil onto cannabis plants during the growing process.

You're missing my points as usual, btw, which are that most weed users frankly don't care if what they smoke is contaminated, and that most weed producers and sellers are fully aware of that fact, and act accordingly.  It's why unregulated, black market weed is still highly competitive with legal weed in every legal market.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/colorad​o​-marijuana-black-market-1.4647198

"Whenever Larisa Bolivar, 42, wants to pick up some marijuana, she heads to one of her preferred Denver dispensaries where she can buy cannabis to smoke and edibles to eat.

As president of Colorado's Cannabis Consumers Coalition, she is both a longtime user and an advocate. For the past two years, she has conducted online surveys by polling marijuana users about just where they get their pot from. She reached out through the coalition's Facebook page, which has 17,000 members, and contacted people directly after obtaining customer lists from cannabis-related companies.

[...] The surveys found around 50 per cent of respondents are not getting their marijuana at dispensaries.

She had 527 people respond to her 2017 survey, and while she is still tallying the results for this year, she says the findings are consistent.

'There is still a larger percentage of people buying from the black market [than legally],' she said.

The results of Bolivar's Facebook survey suggested nearly 50 per cent of the respondents were not shopping at the state's licensed dispensaries."

Peki: tirob: Mouser: If you want smoke marijuana safely, hippies, bite the bullet and demand pot shops be put under FDA scrutiny.

Excellent suggestion, because weed users have traditionally insisted that the stuff they smoke be free of unhealthful pesticides and fungicides.

*snert* Hey, look, the broken clock happened to be right today!


See above.  Your sarcasm detector could use a tuneup.
 
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