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2020-07-15 11:14:43 PM  
See that's the problem with just in time inventory management.
 
2020-07-15 11:17:46 PM  
I was gonna act all smug about quitting cigarettes a few years ago, but I've been smoking (legal) weed all pandemic, so what do I know.
 
2020-07-15 11:18:31 PM  
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2020-07-15 11:20:51 PM  
I used the lockdown in march to get sober...best decision ever.
 
2020-07-15 11:21:01 PM  
So what you're saying subby is that the tobacco industry is gonna need a bailout?
 
2020-07-15 11:22:54 PM  

mcsiegs: I used the lockdown in march to get sober...best decision ever.


I definitely drank a lot less since lockdowns began since my local Moose was closed.
 
2020-07-15 11:24:02 PM  
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2020-07-15 11:24:16 PM  
Or maybe unemployed people can't afford cigarettes anymore?
 
2020-07-15 11:25:33 PM  
Nobody likes a quitter.
 
2020-07-15 11:30:09 PM  
mcsiegs:

I used the lockdown to start drinking, smoking opium, chewing dexidrin, using liquid lsd, eating pot brownies etc


Each and every GD time, I realize I enjoy a sober life these days
 
2020-07-15 11:30:37 PM  
Kemp just voided all mask-wearing in Georgia.
Bring out yer dead!
 
2020-07-15 11:32:20 PM  
The mask has helped with my cravings, now just not having a mask on is enough.
 
2020-07-15 11:35:36 PM  
tomorrow will be one year since i quit smoking,i wish i never began smoking but it's too late for that.  anyhow i'm glad i quit,it was the best worst decision i've made in a long time.  Also i quit smoking during the trump administration! if i can do it,so can you.
 
2020-07-15 11:36:08 PM  

AuralArgument: mcsiegs:

I used the lockdown to start drinking, smoking opium, chewing dexidrin, using liquid lsd, eating pot brownies etc


Each and every GD time, I realize I enjoy a sober life these days


The struggle is real...I empathize buddy.
 
2020-07-15 11:36:32 PM  
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2020-07-15 11:38:06 PM  

Begoggle: Kemp just voided all mask-wearing in Georgia.
Bring out yer dead!


I should have known you weren't kidding but I still held out hope til the bitter realization.
 
2020-07-15 11:45:05 PM  

skyotter: I was gonna act all smug about quitting cigarettes a few years ago, but I've been smoking (legal) weed all pandemic, so what do I know.


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2020-07-15 11:47:30 PM  

mcsiegs: I used the lockdown in march to get sober...best decision ever.


Congratulations!

Addiction of any kind is hindrance to living a fuller, happier life.
 
2020-07-15 11:59:38 PM  
I just read an article which said that Canada may have experienced a decrease in deaths during the early weeks of the pandemic. The data is very far from complete, but it is possible that fewer accidents, fewer deaths from the seasonal influeza epidemic and fewer deaths from suicides may have lead to a drop in the usual number of deaths. In other places, there are clear excedant deaths. Many countries and cities show a large spike in deaths from suspiciously COVID-19 like causes (co-morbidities) in the early days of the pandemic.

I am glad that many people are giving up the Devil Weed, because this could lead to very long term decline in mortality to compensate somewhat for COVID-19 deaths.  It seems that Covid teaches us many lessons, most of which things which we have known for all our lives but which we have willfully ignored.

It is indeed an ill wind that blows nobody well. Not that the arbitrary gain of some lives balances or justifies the arbitrary lose of others:  there are good people on all sides.  But I am really sensitive to smoke, odors, asthma agents, and some of the usual suspects in terms of allegies (including two kinds of dust mites), so all this air cleaning is a nice plus for me.

My theory is that Trump invented Covid-19 so he can get Americans to wear masks like the Asians who have suffered from America's off-shoring of shiatty jobs and pollution for decades.

At least that is what I told the crazy homeless guy in the park when he asked me what I though of his theory that he caused the Coronavirus 19. This I doubt. Hope he gets the help he needs unless of course he was just a random jerk, in which case I hope he doesn't vote Conservative.
 
2020-07-15 11:59:57 PM  

JudgeSmails: tomorrow will be one year since i quit smoking,i wish i never began smoking but it's too late for that.  anyhow i'm glad i quit,it was the best worst decision i've made in a long time.  Also i quit smoking during the trump administration! if i can do it,so can you.


I stopped smoking. I now put two drops of vape juice in my am coffee.
 
2020-07-16 12:04:34 AM  
The Pandemic is a great equalizer.  At the moment the old and the rich over-ensured and over-medicated are being equalized like gangbusters.

Pity it isn't equalizing the Senate more and minorities less. But at least it is hitting the rich with a fury that the very young, very poor, very needy seem to be largely escaping, for what have they got to lose?
 
2020-07-16 12:06:47 AM  
At this point I am doubting that smokers are more prone to dying from CV-19 (although that is generally true with respiratory diseases).  There actually have been studies that say the opposite.  It seems that everything I read about the virus and said with authority turns out to be wrong, and then right (said with authority), and then wrong again.  There are conflicting studies about almost everything involving CV-19.  Why cannot people just admit that they have no idea what is going on with this virus and have no solid idea about how to best deal with it instead of saying they know what to do and then contradicting themselves one week later?

All I know is that the elderly and those with compromised immune systems are hosed if they even imagine the virus.  Why not focus on protecting them instead of focusing on making everyone else's lives miserable?  It also really does not help that this is a presidential election year.  When this crap hit the fan I hoped that it would draw us all more together with one common goal.  That was optimistic and naive.
 
2020-07-16 12:13:12 AM  
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2020-07-16 12:18:03 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: At this point I am doubting that smokers are more prone to dying from CV-19 (although that is generally true with respiratory diseases).  There actually have been studies that say the opposite.  It seems that everything I read about the virus and said with authority turns out to be wrong, and then right (said with authority), and then wrong again.  There are conflicting studies about almost everything involving CV-19.  Why cannot people just admit that they have no idea what is going on with this virus and have no solid idea about how to best deal with it instead of saying they know what to do and then contradicting themselves one week later?

All I know is that the elderly and those with compromised immune systems are hosed if they even imagine the virus.  Why not focus on protecting them instead of focusing on making everyone else's lives miserable?  It also really does not help that this is a presidential election year.  When this crap hit the fan I hoped that it would draw us all more together with one common goal.  That was optimistic and naive.


There are actually quite a few studies that show smokers are the lowest risk group for catching a bad case of ventilator off of covid-19.

Something to do with smoking screwing up the ACE2 receptors in your lungs, which are the receptors the coronavirus uses.
 
2020-07-16 12:29:43 AM  
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2020-07-16 12:35:03 AM  
So instead of bailing out tobacco farmers how about federal legalization of weed so they can grow cannabis instead? The low-grade ditchweed coming out of repurposed tobacco fields should be good enough for hash oil extraction at a minimum.
 
2020-07-16 1:04:48 AM  
Shouldn't use coffin nails if someone dies from the 'rona. With all the other crap going on, I wouldn't be surprised if they come back as zombies, so we should be using coffin screws. Less chance of then getting out.
 
2020-07-16 1:07:47 AM  

MythDragon: Shouldn't use coffin nails if someone dies from the 'rona. With all the other crap going on, I wouldn't be surprised if they come back as zombies, so we should be using coffin screws. Less chance of then getting out.


Funeral Pyres.
 
2020-07-16 1:26:20 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: All I know is that the elderly and those with compromised immune systems are hosed if they even imagine the virus. Why not focus on protecting them instead of focusing on making everyone else's lives miserable?


Because the elderly and the immunocompromised aren't the only ones at risk.  True, they and prison populations are the groups dying the most, but there are daily news stories about apparently reasonably healthy people dying from Rona.  And as you mentioned, the studies are all over the map about what non-obvious risk factors exist.  That's why the general population needs to be cautious.
 
2020-07-16 1:29:58 AM  

kdawg7736: mcsiegs: I used the lockdown in march to get sober...best decision ever.

I definitely drank a lot less since lockdowns began since my local Moose was closed.


Huh. I've been drinking AND smoking more since lockdown started. Haven't gained any weight but I'm visually fatter. Time to hit the weights.
 
2020-07-16 1:33:31 AM  
My theory is that nicotine is a toxin and it kills viruses and bacteria that enter the lungs.  I'm a long term on again/off again smoker and every time I stop I get a cold/flu of some sort.  I stopped four weeks ago and has a runny nose for two weeks.
 
2020-07-16 1:40:57 AM  

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2020-07-16 2:08:52 AM  
Shiat should be outlawed. Along with alcohol.
 
2020-07-16 4:09:25 AM  

skyotter: I was gonna act all smug about quitting cigarettes a few years ago, but I've been smoking (legal) weed all pandemic, so what do I know.


Yeah, same (ish) here, I haven't smoked in years, but I'm sending this from my garden with a cigarette in one hand, phone in the other.
 
2020-07-16 4:53:35 AM  

skyotter: I was gonna act all smug about quitting cigarettes a few years ago, but I've been smoking (legal) weed all pandemic, so what do I know.


It's all addictive no matter what we want to believe and inhaling smoke isn't good no matter what it's from.

We all have vices, I've had a lifetime of various substance abuse problems but always go back to smoking or dipping. It's a habit i can't seem to shake. If you've successfully quit, my hats off to you.
 
2020-07-16 9:15:23 AM  
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I used to have a Samuel Clemens approach to quitting. Finally, quit for good about six years ago when my daughter came into the world.  Turns out I needed to quit for someone else.

Apparently, I never held myself in high enough regard to care that deeply about my health but my daughter is the world to me and curiosity has got me wanting to stick around to see how she turns out.
 
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